Killzone 2 only uses 60% of the PS3's SPU's OVERALL POWER!!!

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#1 rajeev101
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People always wonder, "How much power of the playstation is used it create ****." Well for Killzone 2, in my opinion, is one of the best looking games on a console...by far uses up to 60% of the PS3. I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Here is the Link

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-only-using-60--of-SPUs-overall-power-News--a0005629-p0.php

P.S. I do not no if this info in old...if it is sorry...if its new your welcome :D

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#2 linkinpark494
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Now imagine Killzone 3.....
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#3 samuraiguns
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Aww, Man i was hoping it would use 85% percent.

Hmm, those cores have crack on it.

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#4 polishkid99
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why don't they use the other 40%?
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#5 rajeev101
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why don't they use the other 40%?polishkid99
I guess, they can't? i dont no why.....but at first i thought it uses like 85 but it only using 60 that makes 40 more percent to be unleashed in the imminent future :D
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#6 polishkid99
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[QUOTE="polishkid99"]why don't they use the other 40%?rajeev101
I guess, they can't? i dont no why.....but at first i thought it uses like 85 but it only using 60 that makes 40 more percent to be unleashed in the imminent future :D

doesent make sense :?
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#7 Timmeus
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[QUOTE="rajeev101"][QUOTE="polishkid99"]why don't they use the other 40%?polishkid99
I guess, they can't? i dont no why.....but at first i thought it uses like 85 but it only using 60 that makes 40 more percent to be unleashed in the imminent future :D

doesent make sense :?

If they had more time they probably could but if the game is where they want it to be why bother?

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#8 samuraiguns
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dev's never try to max out a system's power on a project, they minimize it as much as they can, without hurting the final product.
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#9 TX360
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im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.
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im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.TX360
Are you referring to the Preview Code aka Alpha build?
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#11 Timmeus
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[QUOTE="TX360"]im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.emitsu97
Are you referring to the Preview Code aka Alpha build?

You seriously think gears 2 and MGS4 look better than Killzone 2?

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#12 rajeev101
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im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.TX360
What do you mean by blur? Blur when ur turn or sprint? etc.
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#13 emitsu97
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[QUOTE="emitsu97"][QUOTE="TX360"]im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.Timmeus

Are you referring to the Preview Code aka Alpha build?

You seriously think gears 2 and MGS4 look better than Killzone 2?

I didn't say that now did I. It's not a fair comparison at the moment seeing as how everything we've seen has come from alpha build code.
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#14 Timmeus
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[QUOTE="Timmeus"]

[QUOTE="emitsu97"] Are you referring to the Preview Code aka Alpha build?emitsu97

You seriously think gears 2 and MGS4 look better than Killzone 2?

I didn't say that now did I. It's not a fair comparison at the moment seeing as how everything we've seen has come from alpha build code.

I think it's far comparison and I was talking to the other guy.

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[QUOTE="TX360"]im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.rajeev101
What do you mean by blur? Blur when ur turn or sprint? etc.

I like the blur
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#16 polishkid99
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[QUOTE="rajeev101"][QUOTE="TX360"]im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.RoganSarine
What do you mean by blur? Blur when ur turn or sprint? etc.

I like the blur

is it like the thing like when you sprint in gears? if it is then i like it.
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#17 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="emitsu97"][QUOTE="Timmeus"]

You seriously think gears 2 and MGS4 look better than Killzone 2?

Timmeus

I didn't say that now did I. It's not a fair comparison at the moment seeing as how everything we've seen has come from alpha build code.

I think it's far comparison and I was talking to the other guy.

He actually only meant to say Gears.

He just said MGS4 so people wouldn't jump down his throat.

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#18 avataraang1
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I was hoping it would only use like 30 percent power. So then we would explode of the the sheer awesomeness of what could be 100%
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#19 rajeev101
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I was hoping it would only use like 30 percent power. So then we would explode of the the sheer awesomeness of what could be 100%avataraang1
Yeah i know what u mean....
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#20 potato66
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Cool
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#21 king23_
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:lol: Geez, I wonder what a game would look like if it used 100% of the power.
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#22 bigmike402
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i cant wait to see games when they use the full power of the ps3! that will be sweet :lol:
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#23 RaidensTechSupp
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People always wonder, "How much power of the playstation is used it create ****." Well for Killzone 2, in my opinion, is one of the best looking games on a console...by far uses up to 60% of the PS3. I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Here is the Link

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-only-using-60--of-SPUs-overall-power-News--a0005629-p0.php

rajeev101
This article is a load of crap! 1. What the hell is an spu? Sound processor? System processing units? Any normal person would just say cpu/gpu (if tha'ts what they even mean) 2. Did anyone actually read this? The guy reakons the game began lagging above 60% WTF? I don't think anyone in that article honestly knew what the hell they were talking about.
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#24 RaidensTechSupp
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BTW, any game can use 100% of the PS3's power. Even little big planet could max out and lag the console. Its a matter of how much the game engine demands to be processed. Developers are theroretically using 100% of the PS3's hardware power now. The console has fixed specs so the olny way grpahics are gonna get better is with better code and optimizations, which will undoubtibly happen.
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#25 samuraiguns
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Well.Duh.lol.
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#26 cmpepper23
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[QUOTE="rajeev101"]

People always wonder, "How much power of the playstation is used it create ****." Well for Killzone 2, in my opinion, is one of the best looking games on a console...by far uses up to 60% of the PS3. I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Here is the Link

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-only-using-60--of-SPUs-overall-power-News--a0005629-p0.php

RaidensTechSupp

This article is a load of crap! 1. What the hell is an spu? Sound processor? System processing units? Any normal person would just say cpu/gpu (if tha'ts what they even mean) 2. Did anyone actually read this? The guy reakons the game began lagging above 60% WTF? I don't think anyone in that article honestly knew what the hell they were talking about.

I believe that SPU stands for Synergenic Processing Unit. There is actually one PPE, power processing element, that consist of 8 SPEs or synergystic process elements. Only 7 can be used as one is always disabled. This info has been out forever. Maybe you don't know what you are talking about.

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#27 pyromaniac223
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Then why does it supposedly have frame rate issues?
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#28 samuraiguns
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Then why does it supposedly have frame rate issues?pyromaniac223

From the article, it looks like they abused the SPE and things got crazy, because they didnt optimize the engine for that power.

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#29 Rakuho
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All i care about is that KZ2 is steady game that's fun to play and nice to look at; the whole "it uses x amount of the Ps3's much power" talk really doesn't mean anything to me.
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#30 Hanabie
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im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.TX360
lol.. yer farny dood.. why did u compare it with that crappy gears2? to be honest, I own a 360 as well and I only use my 360 for gears series. wait.. dont jump to conclusion, rest of the games are crappy imho =/

Edit: you might have the point tx360. but it will apply when gears is on ps3!

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#31 navstar29
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Then why does it supposedly have frame rate issues?pyromaniac223

What Frame rate issues? Most of the previews say the frame rate is stable ... and that it only slows done during the auto-saves. Not saying Guerilla should get away with that, but that seems like something they will definitely fix before going gold, they have 3 months for that, I'm sure they can fix that. It honestly seems like something they tagged on recently, I highly doubt the game will tell you its auto saving during the final product, and if it does, it wont be using the XMB to do it, which is what I assume is happening in this preview code (It looks like the XMB notifications)

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#32 rajeev101
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:lol: Geez, I wonder what a game would look like if it used 100% of the power.king23_

yeah i know....cuz Killzone 2 looks DAM FINE!!

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#33 azntok
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im not that all suprised that KZ2 only uses 60% of the PSU, i mean look at the PS2, anyone who has played MGS2 and comparing it to MGS3 knows exactly what the Playstation consoles are capable of. the potential of the console is unbelievable. Im sorry but having played KZ2 beta and finished Gears2 with a friend, as good loking as Gears2 is, the reason why it looks so good is the sharp and contrast look of the game. KZ2 may not be as sharp as G2 but KZ2 looks far better than G2 can or ever will KZ2 has that realistic look and feel to it when you play it, it literally sucks you in the game just like the feeling of HL2 when youre getting chased in the apartments in the beginning, the feeling is amazing. its intense and satisfying. Gears2 is an amazing game, no doubt about it, but there isnt that feel to it IMO. KZ2 has great potential. also another thing, the change between Gears 1 and 2 graphics wise wasnt much, but there was some. Seems to me that the potential of the 360 is done thats why I wont be suprised if MS comes out with their next 360 by the end of 2009 or early 2010. Sony wont need PS4 till 2012
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#34 JKnaperek
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And before MGS4 was released, talk was frequent about how that game was using the full potential of the PS3. I remember it clearly. These statistics mean nothing.
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#35 Dante_May_Die
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imagine Resistance 3 with full PS3 Power and A Newer Graphical Update...Kicks Metal Gears Butt!
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#36 jmdude
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[QUOTE="rajeev101"]

I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Crysis-like, only better.
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^^^^^^ Your sig is the freaking best.
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#38 Hanabie
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dont forget about gow 3... it's said it will have the best graphic ever
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#39 shroom76
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lol the cell processor makes it impossible to use 100% because nobody really knows what it does or how to use it!
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#40 ronniepage588
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People always wonder, "How much power of the playstation is used it create ****." Well for Killzone 2, in my opinion, is one of the best looking games on a console...by far uses up to 60% of the PS3. I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Here is the Link

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-only-using-60--of-SPUs-overall-power-News--a0005629-p0.php

P.S. I do not no if this info in old...if it is sorry...if its new your welcome :D

rajeev101
why does everyone on forums always say IN MY OPINION!?!?!?!?! we know its your opinion, thats a given. duh.
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#41 ronniepage588
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ANYWAYS, can ANY of you name ONE game that used over 60% of the PS2's hardware?!?!?! i doubt it. i think the best looking games (GOW2) used around the same amount. not a big deal and i wouldn't dwell on it and i think this thread is pointless because of it, not a single damn one of you can even comprehend what some random percentage of ps3's power even means.
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#42 jjtiebuckle
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[QUOTE="rajeev101"]

People always wonder, "How much power of the playstation is used it create ****." Well for Killzone 2, in my opinion, is one of the best looking games on a console...by far uses up to 60% of the PS3. I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Here is the Link

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-only-using-60--of-SPUs-overall-power-News--a0005629-p0.php

P.S. I do not no if this info in old...if it is sorry...if its new your welcome :D

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why does everyone on forums always say IN MY OPINION!?!?!?!?! we know its your opinion, thats a given. duh.

Well, IN MY OPINION, 100% of the PS3 power means overheating and loud humming noises :) But if you were to compare the statistics, looking at Gran Tourismo 4, FF 12, GoW 2, and BLACK, the progress is evident that developers utilize different features and some focus more on gameplay than graphics. So, despite how much theoretical power Killzone 2 uses, BLACK 2, FF 13, GoW 3, and Gran Tourismo 5 will use more.
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#43 Denji
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Well it's obvious. Anybody that says they're using 100% power is only the power that they currently know of. You take a game like Tekken 5 or MGS3 back to a year after PS2's launch and nobody would think that would be possible. I know that even MGS4 isn't using PS3's full power. Games 3 years from now are going to be even better than this. All it takes is time.
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#44 Denji
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[QUOTE="rajeev101"]

People always wonder, "How much power of the playstation is used it create ****." Well for Killzone 2, in my opinion, is one of the best looking games on a console...by far uses up to 60% of the PS3. I can only imagine what a game would look like at 100%

Here is the Link

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-only-using-60--of-SPUs-overall-power-News--a0005629-p0.php

P.S. I do not no if this info in old...if it is sorry...if its new your welcome :D

ronniepage588

why does everyone on forums always say IN MY OPINION!?!?!?!?! we know its your opinion, thats a given. duh.

Because those who don't, tend to talk like their word is absolute. "What I say goes and that's just how it is" like they're running the company.

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im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.TX360

FYI, Gears 2 and MGS4 also use blur.

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im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.TX360
It's called blur cameras. This visual effect is what make the game look realistic. Just like when your eyes focus on specific everything around that object becomes blurred because your focus is on that object. Also it uses tunnel vision when you are being shot or running.
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#47 Timmeus
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[QUOTE="TX360"]im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.GranReyUno
It's called blur cameras. This visual effect is what make the game look realistic. Just like when your eyes focus on specific everything around that object becomes blurred because your focus is on that object. Also it uses tunnel vision when you are being shot or running.

The blur effect is also for motion, just wave your hand quickly in front of your face to get the idea.

Huhah made you wave your hand in front of your face.

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#48 king_bobo
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OMG. This is amazing news. Only 60% of the PS3's potential has been used!
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[QUOTE="GranReyUno"][QUOTE="TX360"]im surprised at why people feel Killzone 2 is a great lookiing game the blur is a joke you want a good looking game look at gears 2 and MGS4.Timmeus

It's called blur cameras. This visual effect is what make the game look realistic. Just like when your eyes focus on specific everything around that object becomes blurred because your focus is on that object. Also it uses tunnel vision when you are being shot or running.

The blur effect is also for motion, just wave your hand quickly in front of your face to get the idea.

Huhah made you wave your hand in front of your face.

No you didn't! *hides and wave hand* Cooooooooooooooooooooool!
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#50 machiavell8x8
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someone mentioned that 1 spu is disabled but i also believe 1 spu is used for the OS or i think its also called the xmb . this leaves 6 out of the 8 spu's, also these spu's can only work as fast as the ram(256mb) can provide the data.....which is further slowed by the 5400 rpm hard drive and by the slow bluray reader. the bottom line is all this put together means the spu 's will never hit 100% load. games will continue to get better as codeing improves, but you better beleave they are useing all the cores they can....as ram and other hardware permits. you can also expect more ylod's due to dev's finally putting out games thats actual stress the system, as well as the dust has had time to settle in our systems so if killzone 2 only uses 60% its because thats all they were able to squeese out due to the before mentioned reasons