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#51 JoKeR_421
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="CanadianCR"]:lol: A WHOLE seven feet? Like real life .. WHOA!Nick3306
Hey you couldn't possibly kill someone with a shotgun from that distance in real life! Especially with one shot. That's like two yards, dude. I'm lucky if my bullets even travel that far.

LMFAO its not real life, its a game, all of you make me laugh. And i didnt mean to put 7 feet i meant to put 17. Just look at the best player of the match, they're either using the shotgun or the rocket launcher. the shotgun kills from the same length as the assault rifles in cqc (close quarter combat)

yup, but sometimes....when i use the shotgun, i also wonder how i killed the other player from where i was standin lol
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#52 Scieran
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Is anyone els sick of the insanely good shotguns in killzone 2? I mean these things can kill you from impossible lengthes without a headshot. Iv been killed easily from more then 7 feet away with full health. Do you think they will patch it so theyre not as powerfull?

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The longer you play, the more you will find it ineffective in terms of overall. Overall, shotguns are not simply the most pain in the, you know. You need to consider annoying, persistant bombardments of grenades, rocklaunchers, grenade launchers and torrets.
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#53 Nick3306
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[QUOTE="Nick3306"]

[QUOTE="AlexSays"] Hey you couldn't possibly kill someone with a shotgun from that distance in real life! Especially with one shot. That's like two yards, dude. I'm lucky if my bullets even travel that far.CanadianCR

LMFAO its not real life, its a game, all of you make me laugh. And i didnt mean to put 7 feet i meant to put 17. Just look at the best player of the match, they're either using the shotgun or the rocket launcher. the shotgun kills from the same length as the assault rifles in cqc (close quarter combat) I like the people in this thread that are making fun of me thinking they are cool because they can make fun of people on the internet. go outside.

Let me shoot you with a shotgun at 17 feet .. see what happens ..

Its a game, not real life! what don't you understand about that? Dang, some people lack common sense.

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#54 AlexSays
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So TC isn't going for realism, he'd just like Killzone 2 to be patched so all the weapons are to his liking? Because... you know... shotguns shouldn't kill people from a whole 17 feet away. Yeah, I'm sure Guerrilla Games will take this into consideration.
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#55 CanadianCR
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"] LMFAO its not real life, its a game, all of you make me laugh. And i didnt mean to put 7 feet i meant to put 17. Just look at the best player of the match, they're either using the shotgun or the rocket launcher. the shotgun kills from the same length as the assault rifles in cqc (close quarter combat) I like the people in this thread that are making fun of me thinking they are cool because they can make fun of people on the internet. go outside.

Nick3306

Let me shoot you with a shotgun at 17 feet .. see what happens ..

Its a game, not real life! what don't you understand about that? Dang, some people lack common sense.

:lol: And some people just lack intelligence ..

This is the gen of REALISM .. I'm sure you'd be crying to if you hit a guy point blank with the shotgun and didn't kill him ..

Shotguns are MORE powerful than a rifle, from within a certain range.

What you're trying to say is take away the shotgun all together? Or make it weaker so you can kill them easier and make the shotgun nonexistant? :roll:

Suck it up ..

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#56 TheRabbit22
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i'm gonna agree the shotguns are crap...i've had times where i'd be right in front of someone shoot them with the shotgun and they wouldnt die but they would turn around and kill me with a handgun (noobs) lol .....it's something the game needs to fix.....shotguns, handguns and rockets........oh well tho the game is still fun

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#57 Nonstop-Madness
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If they decrease the power of the shotgun, then they should increase the effective range.
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#58 CanadianCR
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If they decrease the power of the shotgun, then they should increase the effective range. Nonstop-Madness

:lol: Oh man .. the TC would go on a rampage if that happened ..

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#59 Rakuho
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KZ2 shotguns... i do think they are some of the most precise shotguns I've come across... well the semi-auto one from cod4 wasn't too bad either. the thing is, i have no idea of a shotgun's effective distance... so maybe this is how they're supposed to be. but i think it's a safe bet they can take anyone out with one hit at Shaq's length (minus an inch).
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#60 Nick3306
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[QUOTE="Nick3306"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

Let me shoot you with a shotgun at 17 feet .. see what happens ..

CanadianCR

Its a game, not real life! what don't you understand about that? Dang, some people lack common sense.

:lol: And some people just lack intelligence ..

This is the gen of REALISM .. I'm sure you'd be crying to if you hit a guy point blank with the shotgun and didn't kill him ..

Shotguns are MORE powerful than a rifle, from within a certain range.

What you're trying to say is take away the shotgun all together? Or make it weaker so you can kill them easier and make the shotgun nonexistant? :roll:

Suck it up ..

No change the shotgun range. LMAO your talking about realism? yep us invading helgan is really realistic.
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#61 CanadianCR
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]Its a game, not real life! what don't you understand about that? Dang, some people lack common sense.

Nick3306

:lol: And some people just lack intelligence ..

This is the gen of REALISM .. I'm sure you'd be crying to if you hit a guy point blank with the shotgun and didn't kill him ..

Shotguns are MORE powerful than a rifle, from within a certain range.

What you're trying to say is take away the shotgun all together? Or make it weaker so you can kill them easier and make the shotgun nonexistant? :roll:

Suck it up ..

No change the shotgun range. LMAO your talking about realism? yep us invading helgan is really realistic.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Change the range? Buddy that's a realistic distance .. have you ever seen a shotgun fired? Ever?

You do know .. nine rounds come out from one shot right?

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#62 Doolz2024
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It's a SHOTGUN! It's supposed to be POWERFUL! :evil: besides, unless you're just totally unskilled, anyone should be able to take out a shotgun-wielding noob if they're at any distance away from you easily with a machine gun. A headshot, or 2 or 3 shots to the chest can take them out before they can even fire a shot...
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#63 CanadianCR
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It's a SHOTGUN! It's supposed to be POWERFUL! :evil: besides, unless you're just totally unskilled, anyone should be able to take out a shotgun-wielding noob if they're at any distance away from you easily with a machine gun. A headshot, or 2 or 3 shots to the chest can take them out before they can even fire a shot...Doolz2024

Thank you!

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#64 DEWMAN08
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The shotgun was truly the only weapon I posessed any skill in using. I just couldn't get the aiming down on the machine guns.

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#65 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]It's a SHOTGUN! It's supposed to be POWERFUL! :evil: besides, unless you're just totally unskilled, anyone should be able to take out a shotgun-wielding noob if they're at any distance away from you easily with a machine gun. A headshot, or 2 or 3 shots to the chest can take them out before they can even fire a shot...CanadianCR

Thank you!

no problem ;) I mean seriously, I just don't see what's so hard about taking out someone using it. Sure, every now and then you'll be caught in close qaurters and get blasted by it, but it shouldn't happen often. The KZ2 shotgun is terrible at distance, it's pump-action, and if you miss with the first shot up close, 99% of the time you will die. If you try and go head to head with someone at range who has a machine gun, you will die EVERY time.

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#66 Silverdragon17
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]It's a SHOTGUN! It's supposed to be POWERFUL! :evil: besides, unless you're just totally unskilled, anyone should be able to take out a shotgun-wielding noob if they're at any distance away from you easily with a machine gun. A headshot, or 2 or 3 shots to the chest can take them out before they can even fire a shot...Doolz2024

Thank you!

no problem ;) I mean seriously, I just don't see what's so hard about taking out someone using it. Sure, every now and then you'll be caught in close qaurters and get blasted by it, but it shouldn't happen often. The KZ2 shotgun is terrible at distance, it's pump-action, and if you miss with the first shot up close, 99% of the time you will die. If you try and go head to head with someone at range who has a machine gun, you will die EVERY time.

I hate seeing a rifle at long range while holding my shotgun. You either have to charge strategically or run away. And shotgun vs. shotgun is 50-50. I actually think shotgun users would be at a disavantage most of the time without the turrets. It is nice every now in then charging into a room and taking out 4 of 5 Helgast.

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#67 Nick3306
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That's the point, its not terrible at distance, it seems to be great at distance. It might be a realistic distance for real life but not for the game. Sure you can take it out from a long distance but most of the time its all close quarters.
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#68 BPoole96
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I don't really think it's that big of a deal. A lot of the maps aren't even good for shotguns, so why take away from the few levels where they are effective. Would you rather it be a horrible shotgun like the one in Resistance 2? You literally had to stick it down their throat and shoot a double shot to kill someone, that wasn't very good at all.

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#69 dercoo
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I don't really think it's that big of a deal. A lot of the maps aren't even good for shotguns, so why take away from the few levels where they are effective. Would you rather it be a horrible shotgun like the one in Resistance 2? You literally had to stick it down their throat and shoot a double shot to kill someone, that wasn't very good at all.

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Remember the shotgun in Resistance 1 though. Now that was a shotgun. It was my favorite part about Resistance 1 online.

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#70 Bow-T_88
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NOTHING is wrong with the shotgun. I dont even have a problem with people using rockets, I'll just use a grenade launcher and spray them with grenades or Aim from a distance with the assault rifle and pick them off.
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#71 Nephilim83
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The shotguns are fine. I actually think they're a bit weak myself. I shoot a dude in the stomach standing right infront of me and he melees me to death. That should never happend. Even if they are too powerful they're shotguns from like 250 years in the future, so should they really be expected to be realistic? Anyway, if you want Guerilla to patch out the shotgun's excess of power then you may want them to ditch the rockets. 'Cause I've become quite the noob-pawner with them darn rockets. Why do they like to stand in big groups like that? HAHAHAAAA!!!!!!! 15 points!!!!
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#72 deactivated-59506133570df
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Change the range? Buddy that's a realistic distance .. have you ever seen a shotgun fired? Ever?

You do know .. nine rounds come out from one shot right?

CanadianCR

nine rounds is just in Buck Shot, any other type has way more, can be over 100.

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#73 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I don't really think it's that big of a deal. A lot of the maps aren't even good for shotguns, so why take away from the few levels where they are effective. Would you rather it be a horrible shotgun like the one in Resistance 2? You literally had to stick it down their throat and shoot a double shot to kill someone, that wasn't very good at all.

dercoo

Remember the shotgun in Resistance 1 though. Now that was a shotgun. It was my favorite part about Resistance 1 online.

lol it was especially with the Chimera. I don't know hwy they made it so bad in R2. The update they did shortly after it was released made it even worse. The Kz2 shotgun I think is fair, it kills in 1 hit up close, just like a shotgun is supposed to do

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#74 29121994
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i thought the shotguns in kz2 were close to useless cos i had a lot of trouble aiming with them

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#75 Prince-Noctis
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The Shotguns were my favourite weapon in this game haha.

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#76 Silverdragon17
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The Shotguns were my favourite weapon in this game haha.

Prince-Noctis
same
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#77 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]:lol: A WHOLE seven feet? Like real life .. WHOA!AlexSays
Hey you couldn't possibly kill someone with a shotgun from that distance in real life! Especially with one shot. That's like two yards, dude. I'm lucky if my bullets even travel that far.

yea seriously, this is america, the Supernation of the world LOL, our bullets should be able to travel 2 yards!
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#78 T-Machine99
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I think it is the best shotgun in any video game.

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#79 motorstormhater
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if im not mistaken people actually hunt birds with shotguns. And they are much furthur than seven feet , plus they arent using high tech bloody combat shotguns. Id say that the shotguns on kz2 is even a little short ranged for a realistic shotgun. i mean a shotgun where you need to be arms length away would be pretty bloody useless dont you think

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#80 Ermachko
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Is anyone els sick of the insanely good shotguns in killzone 2? I mean these things can kill you from impossible lengthes without a headshot. Iv been killed easily from more then 7 feet away with full health. Do you think they will patch it so theyre not as powerfull?

Nick3306

Depends on the barrel length, and shot. From 7 ft, you could kill someone with any shot and guage. that's just basic common knowledge. with a decent barrel 36" or so and a Model 870, Remington with slugs you could extend your distance, even with buckshot. what i'm getting at is the longer the barrel the tighter the pack the farther your range. totally possible

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#81 AJC3317
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the shotgun is pretty much the only weapon i use in the game. i think i'm pretty good with it, and i definitely don't think it's overpowered. i know that even in close quarters if i miss i'm pretty much dead. and i absolutely hate seeing someone from far away, cuz the only chance i have then is to pull out my pistol. overall, i think they're fine, i'm much more annoyed by the rockets and the lmg
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#82 2beers_in_hand
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Yeah but a dumb intruder will who is trying to break into your home. So chalk one up to the dear for being smarter.

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#83 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

Let me shoot you with a shotgun at 17 feet .. see what happens ..

Its a game, not real life! what don't you understand about that? Dang, some people lack common sense.

:lol: And some people just lack intelligence ..

This is the gen of REALISM .. I'm sure you'd be crying to if you hit a guy point blank with the shotgun and didn't kill him ..

Shotguns are MORE powerful than a rifle, from within a certain range.

What you're trying to say is take away the shotgun all together? Or make it weaker so you can kill them easier and make the shotgun nonexistant? :roll:

Suck it up ..

You mean like CoD who didn't do the shotgun no justice.