Ladies and Gentleman, The Gap has begun!

sorry this isnt the system war forums.GlassDominion

This isn't about arguing. its an empirical observation. I said that you can see a gap occuring graphically between the systems. Its already known the ps3 boasts more power than the other systems...So I think I posted in the right place...

sorry this isnt the system war forums.GlassDominion

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"]sorry this isnt the system war forums.motherboop

in all respect i dont care if hes complimenting the ps3 or not. when you start getting into the grey area when you talk about one system out doing another system in any reguards it should be elsewhere. this is where we talk about ps3, not how the ps3 is doing x y and z better than system B

[QUOTE="motherboop"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]sorry this isnt the system war forums.GlassDominion

in all respect i dont care if hes complimenting the ps3 or not. when you start getting into the grey area when you talk about one system out doing another system in any reguards it should be elsewhere. this is where we talk about ps3, not how the ps3 is doing x y and z better than system B

Reading your sig I'm seeing where your hatin' is coming from! :lol:

I'd be annoyed too if I had to wait much longer before being able to play Uncharted! (actually I do since I'm in the EU)

The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?banksfree

sorry dude, assassins creed looks lightyears better than the orange box, and if that is the case, it shouldnt even be possible on the 360. you fail miserably at trying to start a system wars topic.

watch when the reviews come out for mass effect. i garauntee you most reviews will say it is the best looking game to date on any system, you can quote me.

the ps3 will come into its own in the future. we are already starting to see it, but still, the 360 is producing graphics that are on par or better than what you see on the ps3. maybe in another year or two we might start seeing the split.

Reading your sig I'm seeing where your hatin' is coming from! :lol:

I'd be annoyed too if I had to wait much longer before being able to play Uncharted! (actually I do since I'm in the EU)

NielsNL

it does suck...

but im a "cow" im not just going off because my system is gone, im just tired of system wars and trolls today.

sorry this isnt the system war forums.GlassDominion

Amen. As true as the topic may be.

who said the orange box used 94% of the power? and i have both systems and i have uncharted, but im sorry uncharted looks good but its nothin thats so good its better than what the 360 can do. bioshock looks as good as uncharted, and mass effect looks just as good if not better. i dont see how the orange box used 94% of the system when its really only an average looking game for the 360.Soul_to_Squeeze

The developers from valve say that they were using 94% of the 360's power and then afterwards they stated they haven't even begun to use the spu's on the cell chip of the ps3. This caused such a "system war" that the article had to be pulled from the website.

Sorry guys, he didn't post a system wars topic. He's simply stating the CPU usage between the two systems. IT IS a PS3 forum. If you don't like the thread then don't post.

I think a year from now we will be seeing a big turn around for the PS3, as the recent exclusives have proved that delvelopers are actually taking their time now with the systems hardware. I'm satisfied with the library of games we recieved over the past year.

I can say that Assassin's Creed looks better on Xbox 360 than on PS3.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28005.html

Explain that one to me. Arguing which has better graphics is really retarded, especially when to 95% of the population of the world couldn't care less on which one it looked better, because they wouldn't recognize it unless it was pointed out. What really matters is how well it plays. Smoothness, controlls, etc. Personally, any multiplatform games I'll buy on the 360 mainly because I much prefer the controller over the PS3's. It's a matter of prefrence. My PS3 gets its use from RPG's some other action oriented games. Unless there is a noticeable difference in the games play for some reason, then I'll get it for the PS3 given Xbox 360's is so much worse that it actually bothers me.

What you also fail to realize is that alot of programmers don't care to recode PS3 games to make use of all 7 cores that the PS3 has when it can be done efficiently and less costly over less. Sony recently abandoned investments in the cell processor, from what I understood, was because of their realization of this (someone correct me if im wrong). What's the use in making a RSX 7 core chip when a 2 core chip will do for the technology of today? Mind you, 360 also has two years on PS3, perhaps 360 will reach capacity soon, and HOPEFULLY Sony's chip was not a waste and can reach much higher potential. That would also justify the notion that the 360 has a 3-5 year life span left while PS3 has 6-7 hopefully. I wouldn't be angry if it worked out like that because that's how I planned on it anyway.

Moreover; This quote "With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell." Doesn't assertain certainty when the word "probably" is used in the sentence. Fanboys really need to start taking English 101 ****s and learn how to interpret new criticism.

PS. This is officially a system wars thread now. your welcome.

PPS. I own both systems /yawn. PS3 will pwn in 2008 yes I know, I'm excited as all of you, and will be much more happy when Sony gets me my system back that broke and I sent them two days ago so I can play Uncharted that is sitting here on my desk being unused.

The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?banksfree

where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.

and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.

xbots get the heck out of here your unloved and your the reason why the dinosaurs diedlinkin_guy109

the TC made it systems wars in here so why leave. self defense Sheriff, i'm legal.

[QUOTE="banksfree"]The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?ChartTopper93

where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.

and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.

[QUOTE="banksfree"]The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?ChartTopper93

where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.

and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.

I have Assassins Creed and UNcharted and unless you are comparing two games using one standard tv and an hdtv your schema is off. UNcharted is on par with HS and that would be about it.

First, vendrena don't worry MGS4 Is a ps3 exclusive. Secondly I started this thread as a celebration not an argument.But the question is how long would it take to blossom? And so I started this thread to show everyone that yes they are now utilizing the PS3 more . And games for the 360 are looking beautiful as many games for the PS3 while the 360 is almost totally being utilized. But we as PS3 owners can be happy about that since HS, Lair, and Uncharted blow games away without even being at half power We all knew that the 360 has a triple core processor working together at 3.2 ghz and that Ps3 has 7 processors running at 3.2 ghz each. I checked out that gametrailers assassin creed and I have to say that um, that's not what it looks like on my tv (the ps3 version)...I don't know what to tell you. banksfree

Thanks Bankfree! :D

every1 sayin mass effect nd bioshock look better is buggin... in bioshock the characters don't even react when hit with a wrench, dats so fake! the closest 360 title to either uncharted or heavenly sword is gears nd dat game is super fake too... urio1

you want to see unrealistic? here...since it won't let me post a link go to ign.com and uncharted videos and watch the shotgun fever one.

if the pirates are deaf and blind in theirright eye they need to find some kind of way to work it into the storyline..

[QUOTE="urio1"]every1 sayin mass effect nd bioshock look better is buggin... in bioshock the characters don't even react when hit with a wrench, dats so fake! the closest 360 title to either uncharted or heavenly sword is gears nd dat game is super fake too... ChartTopper93

you want to see unrealistic? here...

if the pirates are deaf and blind in theirright eye they need to find some kind of way to work it into the storyline.

I don't get the point of your last post...

[QUOTE="urio1"]every1 sayin mass effect nd bioshock look better is buggin... in bioshock the characters don't even react when hit with a wrench, dats so fake! the closest 360 title to either uncharted or heavenly sword is gears nd dat game is super fake too... ChartTopper93

you want to see unrealistic? here...

if the pirates are deaf and blind in theirright eye they need to find some kind of way to work it into the storyline.

i think what urio1 is trying to say is graphics are going to be one par but because of the ps3s processng power animations/physics and ai are going to be much better

yes the ps3 is definately starting to live up to the expectations ... a year in... much like the other console it took the second wave of games to start to see wuts possible on the ps3... multiplats have been nearly identical for the last couple months and the exclusives are getting better and better... can't wait to get my mits on uncharted..its starting to sound like a game of the year contender....

i personally do not care wich version of the game runs smoother or looks better.. just as long as the game i buy is fun on the system i own.. wich happens to be playstation....

[QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]

[QUOTE="banksfree"]The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?motherboop

where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.

and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.

one game over 15 hours and its not coming out anytime soon....way to go.

ign.com...uncharted videos...video 'shotgun fever'...deaf and blind in his right eye....unrealistic.

the link won't show so you do the leg work.

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"]sorry this isnt the system war forums.banksfree

This isn't about arguing. its an empirical observation. I said that you can see a gap occuring graphically between the systems. Its already known the ps3 boasts more power than the other systems...So I think I posted in the right place...

You sure did! And now, you have made us all a bit more happy! :)

[QUOTE="motherboop"][QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]

[QUOTE="banksfree"]The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?ChartTopper93

where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.

and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.

one game over 15 hours....way to go.

ign.com...uncharted videos...video 'shotgun fever'...deaf and blind in his right eye....unrealistic.

the link won't show so you do the leg work.

ChartTopper93

wow wat an unvalid argument... at least uncharted makes an effort to have the enemies react whereas bioshock the characters do nuttin unless u light them on fire or shock them and that's not that impressive... now when 360 has enemies reactin like they do in killzone 2 then we will have an argument on our hands