Ladies and Gentleman, The Gap has begun!
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[QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]ign.com...uncharted videos...video 'shotgun fever'...deaf and blind in his right eye....unrealistic.
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urio1
wow wat an unvalid argument... at least uncharted makes an effort to have the enemies react whereas bioshock the characters do nuttin unless u light them on fire or shock them and that's not that impressive... now when 360 has enemies reactin like they do in killzone 2 then we will have an argument on our hands
I admit, Killzone 2 is a graphical tour de force the likes of which will probably never be surpassed this generation...so far...
But I will not admit that the game looks that good until I have it in my PS3 on my TV doing exactly what the released videos and screens are doing.
whats the big deal over mass effects and boo hoo itll cause the 360 to sell ok in north america btu not in japan as usual and once again the ps3 will still continue to outsell the 360 is per usuallinkin_guy109
The "big deal" over Mass Effect is that it is the first WRPG this gen to really push the envelope and try to bring the genre forward. Oblivion had too many inescapable gameplay flaws (repetitive dungeons, ugly faces, lack of depth) that Mass Effect has solved completely. All while bringing graphics, story, and voice-acting to levels that haven't been seen in an RPG before.
Japan? Who cares. The Playstation 3 doesn't sell well over there either. I play games relative to my culture, and the more mainstream of the Japanese games.
I can say that Assassin's Creed looks better on Xbox 360 than on PS3.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28005.htmlExplain that one to me. Arguing which has better graphics is really retarded, especially when to 95% of the population of the world couldn't care less on which one it looked better, because they wouldn't recognize it unless it was pointed out. What really matters is how well it plays. Smoothness, controlls, etc. Personally, any multiplatform games I'll buy on the 360 mainly because I much prefer the controller over the PS3's. It's a matter of prefrence. My PS3 gets its use from RPG's some other action oriented games. Unless there is a noticeable difference in the games play for some reason, then I'll get it for the PS3 given Xbox 360's is so much worse that it actually bothers me.
What you also fail to realize is that alot of programmers don't care to recode PS3 games to make use of all 7 cores that the PS3 has when it can be done efficiently and less costly over less. Sony recently abandoned investments in the cell processor, from what I understood, was because of their realization of this (someone correct me if im wrong). What's the use in making a RSX 7 core chip when a 2 core chip will do for the technology of today? Mind you, 360 also has two years on PS3, perhaps 360 will reach capacity soon, and HOPEFULLY Sony's chip was not a waste and can reach much higher potential. That would also justify the notion that the 360 has a 3-5 year life span left while PS3 has 6-7 hopefully. I wouldn't be angry if it worked out like that because that's how I planned on it anyway.
Moreover; This quote "With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell." Doesn't assertain certainty when the word "probably" is used in the sentence. Fanboys really need to start taking English 101 ****s and learn how to interpret new criticism.
PS. This is officially a system wars thread now. your welcome.
PPS. I own both systems /yawn. PS3 will pwn in 2008 yes I know, I'm excited as all of you, and will be much more happy when Sony gets me my system back that broke and I sent them two days ago so I can play Uncharted that is sitting here on my desk being unused.
wittbolds
SOrry, assassin creed looks more real on ps3. Ubisoft achieved what they wanted from it, the xbox 360 version had to be modified because it couldn't provide enough realism (that's why its all dark n all) :)
[QUOTE="motherboop"][QUOTE="ChartTopper93"][QUOTE="banksfree"]The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?ChartTopper93
where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.
and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.
Haha,I bet you even think Final Fantasy XIII is going to be an 8 hour game as well, don't you?one game over 15 hours and its not coming out anytime soon....way to go.
So according to you guys, most PS3 games will end up being 8 - 10 hour games just because they are on Blueray? How do you even figure? You put absolutely no logic into your statements whatsoever. it took alot of effort to develop fo rthe nintendo 64, and look at how that system did? Think before you talk, both of you.[QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]ign.com...uncharted videos...video 'shotgun fever'...deaf and blind in his right eye....unrealistic.
the link won't show so you do the leg work.
urio1
wow wat an unvalid argument... at least uncharted makes an effort to have the enemies react whereas bioshock the characters do nuttin unless u light them on fire or shock them and that's not that impressive... now when 360 has enemies reactin like they do in killzone 2 then we will have an argument on our hands
as usual, once a a sony fanboy's argument gets shot down and destroyed they scramble to a completely random and different subject to avoid admitting defeat.
before it was how realistic uncharted is and how the characters AI and reactions are so great...i show you a video shooting that down completely and now the arguement is how good killzone's AI is.
and why is shocking someone or setting them on fire in Bioshock a problem? thats a completely different and new game. all you cows do is talk about how the 360 has nothing different or new on it but you're in here talking about a game that brings nothing new and different to the table at all. even though uncharted is a nice looking game...nice looking as in fun, it is definitely some generic shii. brought nothing new to the gaming industry at all, zero. stole from everything...even the 360's achievement system.
this is kinda random but it has to do with the ps3. i was at best buy looking to buy one and the empolyees there said that MGS is coming to xbox, i know this isn't true but i just want to make sure as i don't keep up with this stuff.Vendrena
That employye must have just come in from his crack break. MGS has been repeatedly stated from the developers to be only on PS3. Some people just can't let go. I think Blade put it best when he said,
"Some m**** f*****s always try to ice skate up hill"
[QUOTE="urio1"][QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]ign.com...uncharted videos...video 'shotgun fever'...deaf and blind in his right eye....unrealistic.
the link won't show so you do the leg work.
ChartTopper93
wow wat an unvalid argument... at least uncharted makes an effort to have the enemies react whereas bioshock the characters do nuttin unless u light them on fire or shock them and that's not that impressive... now when 360 has enemies reactin like they do in killzone 2 then we will have an argument on our hands
as usual, once a a sony fanboy's argument gets shot down and destroyed they scranble to a completely random and different subject to avoid admitting defeat.
Your mother is a chart topper.Japan? Who cares. The Playstation 3 doesn't sell well over there either. I play games relative to my culture, and the more mainstream of the Japanese games.TheSystemLord1
Weekly console sales in Japan privded by vgchartz.com for the week of Nov 10, 2007
360 = 6,847
PS3 = 63.037
[QUOTE="ChartTopper93"][QUOTE="motherboop"][QUOTE="ChartTopper93"][QUOTE="banksfree"]The Gap between Ps3 and Xbox360 has emerged. Personally I believe it began with the prolific and underrated Lair a graphical smorgasbord, but Heavenly Sword and Drakes have created a seismic crease between the consoles. Now I had both systems, but after the great red ring of death debacle I got rid of my 360 and threw all my chips in the ps3's corner. But already you can see the ps3 looks better. Orangebox utilzed 94% of the 360. Nothing has hit 50% usage on the Ps3 and they argue if things have hit even 30%. What can you say?motherboop
where are you seeing this great gap between graphics between the two systems? i hope it's not uncharted. that is on par with AC...it looks good but nothing amazing or that couldn't be accomplished on the 360. i mean the game looks good, this coming from a guy who's been bashing it for months now because i didn't see what was so great about the graphics. i saw a video that finally really impressed me of the game, but it just looks like the a good game, nothing amazing. the character models still look plastic and AC has just as many character animations with level design and detail that looks great to, for that kind of enviroment. if anything u could give naughty dog respect for the great story, voice acting, and putting a good action atmosphere into the game, but not for graphical dominance.
and a different note, even if the games did look better than the 360's. thats not problem with ps3 games. its the problem programming for the system. if every ps3 game did out do the 360's...which they don't, they're all 8 hours long, maybe 10. it takes too much work to make games for the ps3 and its showing in the length of games. developers have to put all their effort into making the game giving them no chance to add to the game. no online, no real extras(except for uncharted) or insentive to keep playing the game. all developers can do is work their butts off for years and only be able to toss out a 10 hour game that looks great but that's it. a one day sitting of graphics maddness. then what...nothing. thats why these games aren't selling and just being rented. so even if the graphics were better than the 360's, which they really aren't, the ps3 is still beat because their is more to do with a 360 game, it lasts. whats the point of having all that power and storage if no one will be able to use it all without taking a loss because of the amount of time needed to develop it and only selling it to a small user base. even R&C maxed out at 12-15 hours with no real substance...which explains why it's AA now. great graphics, story, and lasting ability is what will make a gap. so far the ps3 hasn't made a game like that yet but the 360's roster is full of them. that's the gap.
Haha,I bet you even think Final Fantasy XIII is going to be an 8 hour game as well, don't you?one game over 15 hours and its not coming out anytime soon....way to go.
So according to you guys, most PS3 games will end up being 8 - 10 hour games just because they are on Blueray? How do you even figure? You put absolutely no logic into your statements whatsoever. it took alot of effort to develop fo rthe nintendo 64, and look at how that system did? Think before you talk, both of you.i didn't say it was because of blueray...i said it's because the ps3 is too hard to program for, thats why. whats the point of having all that storage space if it's going to take double or triple the time to fill it. blueray is a positive that got outweighed by a negative.
(It was gettin big......)
The thing is, developers become more familiar with the hardware as time goes on. The more they use it, the easier it is from them to program on it. Look at the Nintendo 64. The development teams had so much trouble at first, but eventually the system was flooded with hits, one after the other.
Yes, I agree the PS3 is the most difficult to develop for, but that doesn't mean we aren't going to get the same amount and quality of exclusives that the rest are getting. It takes time for these things. PS2 was launched in the same manner.
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