Let's Discuss Human Executions

in Call of Duty: World at War.

Do you actually see real footage of real people being executed?

Because I don't agree with this, from a moral stand point.

I play games for fun and an experience that mimicks the real thing, but this is just too far.

Only an opinion, though.

Well, Flame_Blade just confirmed it.

And I'm not buying this game.

The ones in CoD4 were ok because those weren't real people, but this is ridiculous.

Well, Flame_Blade just confirmed it.

And I'm not buying this game.

The ones in CoD4 were ok because those weren't real people, but this is ridiculous.

Scianix-Black

Which is completely understandable. I mean, it was the first time I've ever seen footage involving real life execution in a video game.

I agree, from the moral stand point! It's not fun watching people getting executed!

but is it just a movie clip? or is it the actual execution that happened in the past. That'd be cruel

I agree, from the moral stand point! It's not fun watching people getting executed!

but is it just a movie clip? or is it the actual execution that happened in the past. That'd be cruel

Hanabie

It's an actual execution. Real life footage.

from a moral standpoint, i dont get it.

it happened, it adds to the authenticity of war. war isnt all bang bang and kill type of thing, the crap was brutal. like hardcore.

 

from a moral standpoint, i dont get it.

it happened, it adds to the authenticity of war. war isnt all bang bang and kill type of thing, the crap was brutal. like hardcore.

supa_badman

I understand that, but I don't need it in my video games.

We've got enough death and killing going on as it is.

you want to play a game about war?

A game about a true war, and one of the nastiest to fight in

But no execution shots?

grow up

There are plenty of 18 year olds right now in Iraq and Afghanistan helping keep suicide bombers alive who just killed their friends

dont play M rated games.

This is war we are talking about here. it isnt glamorous. its bloody hell and I think they really wanted to get that msg across.

In Cod 4 it almost seemed in parts that the solders were having fun at times. I think they wanted to push the game in a different direction this time.

Well if you don't want to witness just how gruesome war can be then Pass on the game and don't watch News ever again.
I think it's a good thing to do, it's not supposed to be fun it's supposed to be shocking and provoking. To make you sit there and think " Why do these things happen?" and then maybe, just maybe the developers have gotten another one that starts to support work to stop such acts in wars and conflicts.

"The wise man is he who sees and acts, the fool is he who shuts his eyes and says everything is fine"

Well if you don't want to witness just how gruesome war can be then Pass on the game and don't watch News ever again.
I think it's a good thing to do, it's not supposed to be fun it's supposed to be shocking and provoking. To make you sit there and think " Why do these things happen?" and then maybe, just maybe the developers have gotten another one that starts to support work to stop such acts in wars and conflicts.

"The wise man is he who sees and acts, the fool is he who shuts his eyes and says everything is fine"

Treflis

I think it really dishounors (?) the death of those people being implementated into a videogame where you kill like 500 hundred people or so. And a videogame has nothing to do with real war. News on television are something completely different or do you watch them to have FUN? A videogame should provide fun and games like COD aren't near to real. It's all about the good guys killing the Nazis but I've never seen any game in which you can play the "bad" guys in a real way. 

IMHO I think the killings that are rendered graphics are much more grusome than the half second of footage of real exicutions.

I mean the game shows people getting their eyes burned out, throats slashed, heads blown off plus much more.. and that was only in the first hour that I played!

I think showing real executions, in the right context, is OK... as long as they're not glorifying it. If the footage is shown to perhaps provoke an emotional response I.E. show the truth of the horrible world we live in sometimes, then I see no problem with a game using footage like this.

There are plenty of things just as bad on the news all the time - starving people in 3rd world nations, mistreated children in China...etc They're all shown to provoke some sort of response and show you just how bad things can get in this day and age.

I've seen some horrific footage of the 1st and 2nd World War and there are thousands of examples of footage of soldiers and civilians being killed and maimed - again, as long as this footage isn't glorified in any way and is used to help someone understand what actually happened, I see no problem with it. It's historical record.

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from a moral standpoint, i dont get it.

it happened, it adds to the authenticity of war. war isnt all bang bang and kill type of thing, the crap was brutal. like hardcore.

Scianix-Black

I understand that, but I don't need it in my video games.

We've got enough death and killing going on as it is.

you say this while playing world at war lol

dont have cod5 but i bet online doesnt get as bloodier and more killing than that 

There were executions in COD4 as well. Remember the part where the infidels are lined up against the wall and then shot?p2250

I know that.

But that wasn't real footage.

you want to play a game about war?

A game about a true war, and one of the nastiest to fight in

But no execution shots?

grow up

There are plenty of 18 year olds right now in Iraq and Afghanistan helping keep suicide bombers alive who just killed their friends

 

TJSAGE

I know war is nasty.

I just don't agree with what Treyarch did with this game, and that's my opinion.

So don't tell me to "grow up" because you don't agree.

I made this thread so we could discuss how we feel about the issue, not shove our views down other people's throats.

Welcome to real life.

Welcome to the "M" rating.

Don't like it, don't buy it. Plenty of other great games around.

Jesus Christ...

What is it with everyone and their damn ego trying to tell other people what to do?

I don't like seeing people get their heads blown off or their guts splatter all over my screen be it virtual or real life, I don't enjoy playing a game that encourages me to pretend I'm taking a gun and shooting someone in the head and then get rewarded for it. Thats why I don't play M rated games or watch rated M movies.

However, this is a unique situation here. And my opinion on this is that it is ok to show real footage (as long as it isn't bloody or gory and don't see the actual person die.) I haven't played the game so I don't know exactly what the contents are but if it actually shows a real person getting killed...even if there is no blood i think is out of line. For movies and video game characters its kinda different cause it isn't really people dieing.  

This topic is hard to convey my thoughts on cause there are a lot of what ifs regarding this.

in Call of Duty: World at War.

Do you actually see real footage of real people being executed?

Because I don't agree with this, from a moral stand point.

I play games for fun and an experience that mimicks the real thing, but this is just too far.

Only an opinion, though.

Scianix-Black

Yes it is thier and it warns you about it if you try to start a single player game.

I have to understand the sensibilities of those in this thread. It's ok to not like violence, but it's never going away. I beleive they are getting too close to that "line" they shouldn't cross. Best case scenario they're giving the anti-gaming lobbyists ammo to use in the argument against the games i love so much.

I love cod 1 and 2. they were always about the historical aspect of ww2 because thats the only way germany (they have facist gaming laws) couldve played the game. it was always kill or be killed. But while looking at the historical aspect i can understand the "go ahead" on this decision. Executions happen in war.  If you didn't state these things you are watering down the history and identity of those executed. It should put a knot in your stomach to see such things. and thats the reason everyone should understand the gravitas of the situation. if you don't we are all doomed to see such things again.

Yes, I did see footage of unarmed being excuted by being shot in the back.Flame_Blade88

People die, get over it.avataraang1

Holy hell...

Im gonna answer this again even though people already have. There is real life executions in the game. Before you start the Single Player Campaign, it warns you of these clips. And yes you do see it, but barely. Its there for a second or two tops. At least they have the decency to tell you thats its there and warn you of seeing something that may shock you. The game is worth it for the online though, if you play online. I actually think that this single player experience is better the CoD4 and that was terrific...Ultrabeatdown55

Thanks for your input, and not a shobby, 5 word smart ass comment.

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]Im gonna answer this again even though people already have. There is real life executions in the game. Before you start the Single Player Campaign, it warns you of these clips. And yes you do see it, but barely. Its there for a second or two tops. At least they have the decency to tell you thats its there and warn you of seeing something that may shock you. The game is worth it for the online though, if you play online. I actually think that this single player experience is better the CoD4 and that was terrific...Scianix-Black

Thanks for your input, and not a shobby, 5 word smart ass comment.

Thats because I have respect for people. Even on the internet.