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#1 enz2
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To be honest, the PS3 has become quite boring to me and it's not that I don't enjoy games anymore, it's the lack of Japanese games.

I remember reading an article on how Japanese developers are far behind and how the Western companies are now taking over even the greatest game series... which do ruin the games imo.

Anyway, the majority of games I own and why I keep gaming is because of Japanese games. Considering I grew up on the NES, my PS/2 collection were pretty much Japanese games, but now it feels I'm in the minority now with so many games now focusing on the Western market. And with that said, I just haven't had any interest at all as I'm simply bored with it.

This may seem like complaining, but I've gone back to playing my 64/ ps era of games and recently bought a PSP so that has definitely saved my sanity which I'm having a blast with, and for once I'm having more fun again than I was playing this gen. of games.


How do you see the gen? Has it satisfied you or are you finding yourself getting bored more often?

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#2 idunnodude
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yeah ive definately noticed that this gen. like what happened to all the great jrpgs, ps2 had such great collection of them lots of variety. wrpgs are great and all like mass effect and dragon age but there hasnt really been a lot of great jrpgs. ff13 was the only one ive played so far the other ones don't seem to be worth it, they all look childish and anime style.

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#3 d_ano
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i think its cos games these days focus so much on graphics that they dont focus on whats most important actually having fun! its mainly critics fault imo they have ruined this generation. they give out when a game doesnt have multiplyer so now all games even ones that shouldnt have it are coming with multiplayer which no matter what devs say takes away from the story mode. now they give out about bad textures and the odd frame rate dips and now developers are focusing on that too. thats not to say there arent epic games out or coming out soon its just a large amount of games are focusing on what critics want

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#4 Everiez
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You need to look harder to find them. The quantity isn't much but enough to keep me entertained. Here are Japanese games I keep. None of these have stellar graphic and multiplayer. It's all about gameplay and content:

  • Valkyria Chronicles
  • Resonance of Fate
  • Yakuza 3
  • Yakuza 4
  • Way of Samurai 3

Ace Combat: Assault Horizon and Ar Tonelico: Qoga will be my next purchase. And I'm hoping for Way of Samurai 4 localization announcement later.

As for next year will be Tales series, Rune Factory: Tides and more.

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#5 blueboxdoctor
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Yeah, I ran into this recently (the jrpg thing). When I had a ps2 I wasn't overly into jrpgs because there were just so many, but now that I have a ps3 I wish they'd make a few more. I just got FFXIII today, and 4 hours into it I'm really enjoying it. Other than that there isn't that much in terms of good jrpgs. At least the western ones have become really good for the most part.

However, I'm very disappointed that Silent Hill has been given to american developers for 2 current gen games now. Sure, Homecoming wasn't bad, and if it wasn't a SH game it wouldn't have gotten so much criticism, but that's just the point, it is a SH game. I'm hoping the new game goes back to what made SH 2 and 3 so good (i never played the 1st, so idk how that one was). Considering Resident Evil stopped being a horror game, it would be nice to see SH go back and be a real survival horror (unlike SH4, where I had to go back to the room all the time to drop off ammo, and survival horror should NEVER have too much ammo).

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Im not really a fan of JRPGs, so it doesent bother me that there are second to none on PS3.
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#7 sktguy165
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What ever happened to Kingdom Hearts? That was my favorite game back when I played PS2 and now its like it doesnt exist anymore.
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#8 bleacher6
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i think its cos games these days focus so much on graphics that they dont focus on whats most important actually having fun! its mainly critics fault imo they have ruined this generation. they give out when a game doesnt have multiplyer so now all games even ones that shouldnt have it are coming with multiplayer which no matter what devs say takes away from the story mode. now they give out about bad textures and the odd frame rate dips and now developers are focusing on that too. thats not to say there arent epic games out or coming out soon its just a large amount of games are focusing on what critics want

d_ano

exactly. Back on the PS2 if me and friends talked about games it was mostly single player titles. Now all my friends only play multiplayer fps :(. Its sad really lol.

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#9 Greyfeld
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You need to look harder to find them. The quantity isn't much but enough to keep me entertained. Here are Japanese games I keep. None of these have stellar graphic and multiplayer. It's all about gameplay and content:

  • Valkyria Chronicles
  • Resonance of Fate
  • Yakuza 3
  • Yakuza 4
  • Way of Samurai 3

Ace Combat: Assault Horizon and Ar Tonelico: Qoga will be my next purchase. And I'm hoping for Way of Samurai 4 localization announcement later.

As for next year will be Tales series, Rune Factory: Tides and more.

Everiez

I think he meant GOOD jrpgs.

VC is the only game in that post that qualifies.

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#10 McProley
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I guess these days its all about the "hollywood" storylines and the huge cut scenes. rather than games, they are justinteractive films. i think the days of structured gameplay and tactical decision making take second best to dynamic plotlines. dont get me wrong, i do enjoy a good storyline but i just wish that the ballance was a bit less offset

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#11 dk00111
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I've started losing interest ever since I started PC gaming once I got my laptop. Twisted Metal is going to get me back to playing my PS3, but until it's released, I don't think I'll be playing it much.
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#12 cdragon_88
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It's just the times. It was JRPGs, now its FPS. I wil admit I'm missing JRPGs as well. FFXIII was a total letdown for me but what else is there to play? VC was crazy good but its sequels are on PSP which I don't own. Tried ROF but its not my cup of tea. Where's my new shadows hearts? Man i miss Shadows hearts 2 and my ps2 (and they say BC doesn't matter). I'm thinking about going back and buying a PS2 and playing the Persona series since I've never played it along with Rogue galaxy. Never finished Shadow hearts 3 either. I just ordered Lost Oddysey for the 360, guess i'll enjoy that first. but seriously I'm going back to ps2.

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#13 Greyfeld
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I guess these days its all about the "hollywood" storylines and the huge cut scenes. rather than games, they are justinteractive films. i think the days of structured gameplay and tactical decision making take second best to dynamic plotlines. dont get me wrong, i do enjoy a good storyline but i just wish that the ballance was a bit less offset

McProley

RPGs have ALWAYS been about the storyline, with gameplay taking a backseat. Why do you think Planescape: Torment is considered one of the best RPGs of all time? (I don't share that opinion mind you, I think it's a horrible game, but it's a widely-held opinion.) But there are plenty of ARPGs that put a larger emphasis on gameplay than narration, even during this generation. Granted, not necessarily on the PS3, but that's beside the point.

Sadly, I originally got a PS3 with the assumption there'd be a lot of great RPGs like there were the last two gens, only to find that most of my favorite games this gen have all been on the DS and the PC.

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#14 Greyfeld
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It's just the times. It was JRPGs, now its FPS. I wil admit I'm missing JRPGs as well. FFXIII was a total letdown for me but what else is there to play? VC was crazy good but its sequels are on PSP which I don't own. Tried ROF but its not my cup of tea. Where's my new shadows hearts? Man i miss Shadows hearts 2 and my ps2 (and they say BC doesn't matter). I'm thinking about going back and buying a PS2 and playing the Persona series since I've never played it along with Rogue galaxy. Never finished Shadow hearts 3 either. I just ordered Lost Oddysey for the 360, guess i'll enjoy that first. but seriously I'm going back to ps2.

cdragon_88

Sadly, VC2 isn't nearly as good as the original. The gameplay is more balanced (so you can't just make a scout invincible and run them through the map), and a little more difficult, but the storyline isn't nearly as good, and it's a lot more... cliche anime than the original.

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#15 McProley
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@ Greyfeld yes i agree that RPGs have always been about the story, but my point was that developers seem to be sacrificing certain aspects of gameplay over cinematic experiences. take FFXIII for example. free roam is practically non existent and that is a feature which i consider to be a defining feature of the genre

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#16 Greyfeld
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@ Greyfeld yes i agree that RPGs have always been about the story, but my point was that developers seem to be sacrificing certain aspects of gameplay over cinematic experiences. take FFXIII for example. free roam is practically non existent and that is a feature which i consider to be a defining feature of the genre

McProley

I don't really consider that "cinematics vs gameplay" though. But I suppose it's just a matter of how you view it. I completely agree with you about FF13 though, so it doesn't really matter what I call it.

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Sadly, VC2 isn't nearly as good as the original. The gameplay is more balanced (so you can't just make a scout invincible and run them through the map), and a little more difficult, but the storyline isn't nearly as good, and it's a lot more... cliche anime than the original.

Greyfeld

I personally thought VC's storyline was crap. LOL. To hear VC2's storyline is worst is not a good sign. Not too big on the anime cliche's either. It's cool to have some cliche's because it is anime, but like games copying COD, lets not make all our games COD, or in this case all anime cliches.I wanted a more balanced gameplay since I am guilty of just using Alicia the whole time (almost cried when i lost her for "those missions") blasting through everyone :lol:. So at least thats better. That would've been a good enough reason to purchase but again sadly, I don't have a psp. thanks for the heads up regardless.

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#18 Greyfeld
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[QUOTE="Greyfeld"]

Sadly, VC2 isn't nearly as good as the original. The gameplay is more balanced (so you can't just make a scout invincible and run them through the map), and a little more difficult, but the storyline isn't nearly as good, and it's a lot more... cliche anime than the original.

cdragon_88

I personally thought VC's storyline was crap. LOL. To hear VC2's storyline is worst is not a good sign. Not too big on the anime cliche's either. It's cool to have some cliche's because it is anime, but like games copying COD, lets not make all our games COD, or in this case all anime cliches.I wanted a more balanced gameplay since I am guilty of just using Alicia the whole time (almost cried when i lost her for "those missions") blasting through everyone :lol:. So at least thats better. That would've been a good enough reason to purchase but again sadly, I don't have a psp. thanks for the heads up regardless.

To each their own. I thought the story was interesting and a nice departer from the "save the world" archetype, and the characters were likeable, believable, and fun to watch. I enjoyed every chance I got to get to know them better, and lamented the fact that there were no story segments for some of the non-core team members that were unlockable for your squad.

In VC2... it's just hard to care. It's a bunch of cliche anime highschool bullcrap, with all of the cliched characters present. There is no sense of urgency in the story because you're a student and not on the front lines of the war. It just really didn't impress me in the slightest.

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To each their own. I thought the story was interesting and a nice departer from the "save the world" archetype, and the characters were likeable, believable, and fun to watch. I enjoyed every chance I got to get to know them better, and lamented the fact that there were no story segments for some of the non-core team members that were unlockable for your squad.

In VC2... it's just hard to care. It's a bunch of cliche anime highschool bullcrap, with all of the cliched characters present. There is no sense of urgency in the story because you're a student and not on the front lines of the war. It just really didn't impress me in the slightest.

Greyfeld

Ouch, one of the things that bother me the most about many JRPGs is the adolescent behavior being the main character. I hated FFXIII because so many times the words "grow up" ran through my head. I thought VC 2 had another invasion did it not? or is it just all school learning stuff?

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#20 Greyfeld
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[QUOTE="Greyfeld"]

To each their own. I thought the story was interesting and a nice departer from the "save the world" archetype, and the characters were likeable, believable, and fun to watch. I enjoyed every chance I got to get to know them better, and lamented the fact that there were no story segments for some of the non-core team members that were unlockable for your squad.

In VC2... it's just hard to care. It's a bunch of cliche anime highschool bullcrap, with all of the cliched characters present. There is no sense of urgency in the story because you're a student and not on the front lines of the war. It just really didn't impress me in the slightest.

cdragon_88

Ouch, one of the things that bother me the most about many JRPGs is the adolescent behavior being the main character. I hated FFXIII because so many times the words "grow up" ran through my head. I thought VC 2 had another invasion did it not? or is it just all school learning stuff?

Well, it's the same war, though I suppose you could call it a different invasion. The main character is a new student in the military academy (the same one that was mentioned in the first game), and your squad consists of your cIassmates. You go out on missions, but none of the early missions are front-line stuff. After every mission, you unlock optional (and sometimes manditory) dialogue with different members of your squad across different parts of the school campus. I got tired of the asinine anime highschool drama cliche crap after the first couple chapters though.

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#21 Everiez
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[QUOTE="Everiez"]

You need to look harder to find them. The quantity isn't much but enough to keep me entertained. Here are Japanese games I keep. None of these have stellar graphic and multiplayer. It's all about gameplay and content:

  • Valkyria Chronicles
  • Resonance of Fate
  • Yakuza 3
  • Yakuza 4
  • Way of Samurai 3

Ace Combat: Assault Horizon and Ar Tonelico: Qoga will be my next purchase. And I'm hoping for Way of Samurai 4 localization announcement later.

As for next year will be Tales series, Rune Factory: Tides and more.

Greyfeld

I think he meant GOOD jrpgs.

VC is the only game in that post that qualifies.

Yeah, I sort of know it when he wrote PSP saved his sanity but we can't limit it to just JRPG for suggestion. Yakuza has very story driven and many elements related to JRPG so I thought he might like it. WotS3 is samurai simulation. It has exploration, sword-crafting, multiple ending and extra fun things. RoF isn't for everyone but worth to mention.

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#22 Amir29
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To be honest, I really don't enjoy that style of gaming and personally like the direction games are going. Of course, I also recognize that it's a great loss to fans of eastern game development philosophies.

However, and I may be totally wrong here, doesn't a large production immediately make the game feel western? If so, can't a decent collection of games be found in the PS Store? Also, what about Demon's Souls or the upcoming "Catherine"?

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FPS are king of this gen. There are like a million of them.
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#24 blueboxdoctor
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FPS are king of this gen. There are like a million of them. Inmate_69

Out of my more than 30 ps3 games, only about 8 of the are fps. I was surprised by this since I always read how there's too many of them this gen. I think the problem is they get hyped far too much compared to other genres. Granted, I do like fps games quite a bit, but I basically only have the good ones. Just like last gen when there were a ton of rpgs but also a lot of bad ones, this gen has a ton of fps but only a few are worth having. I was surprised to see how many rpg's I have (which I noticed when I realized I have well over 100 hours of games to play). I'd say there's a good balance that's really only lacking sci-fi games, horror, and jrpgs. For me the lack of horror games is the biggest loss.