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#1 winner-ps3
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying, I know the games isnt realistic with its story and metal gears and clones, but the items and guns i cant deal.

i love the game and the direction it took with the warzone and new controls, it great but that one thing is getting old!

i want him to carry a couple guns and grenades and a couple items and show it on him, this isnt oldschool gaming this is next gen. the weapons should be giving to him when he needs them and then taken away when he doesnt and somehow involve it in the story!

were does he keep all this crap, i mean he carry a barrel with him all the time! why not when he sees one he can use it, thats it!

what about changing camos in MGS3, thats cool but very weird, i didnt like to change them so often. The game should have him change them depending on the area.

snake use the octocam (thats cool) hides on the floor then pulls out a barrel or a rocket! from where his @55? come on!

I thought the whole customizable weapons things, kojima talked about, would fix this, one gun and add parts and always have it on his body showing, that would be better!

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#2 longhorn7
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metal gear has never been about gritty realism winner :P
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying,

i love the game and the direction it took with the warzone and new controls, it great but that one thing is getting old!

i want him to carry a couple guns and grenades and a couple items and show it on him, this isnt oldschool gaming this is next gen. the weapons should be giving to him when he needs them and then taken away when he doesnt and somehow involve it in the story!

were does he keep all this crap, i mean he carry a barrel with him all the time! why not when he sees one he can use it, that it!

ok im done, im buying thsi game anyway!

winner-ps3
Umm......wow.
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#4 Generalkill8888
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying,

i love the game and the direction it took with the warzone and new controls, it great but that one thing is getting old!

i want him to carry a couple guns and grenades and a couple items and show it on him, this isnt oldschool gaming this is next gen. the weapons should be giving to him when he needs them and then taken away when he doesnt and somehow involve it in the story!

were does he keep all this crap, i mean he carry a barrel with him all the time! why not when he sees one he can use it, that it!

ok im done, im buying thsi game anyway!

winner-ps3

Yeah, they could have done that part a little bit better, it does seem pretty unrealistic. The fact that you can blend into any type of material makes up for it though. This game is going to be the best game to come out in years imo.

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#5 Luxen90
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Have you ever played a Mgs game?
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#6 winner-ps3
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metal gear has never been about gritty realism winner :Plonghorn7

well its not the most realistic but its not a fantasy world, i can accept teh crazy story and metal gears but i reall dont like this carry infinity weapons thing

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#7 winner-ps3
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Have you ever played a Mgs game?Luxen90

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

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#8 Generalkill8888
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Have you ever played a Mgs game?winner-ps3

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

Then dont play it

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#9 Flavante
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying,

i love the game and the direction it took with the warzone and new controls, it great but that one thing is getting old!

i want him to carry a couple guns and grenades and a couple items and show it on him, this isnt oldschool gaming this is next gen. the weapons should be giving to him when he needs them and then taken away when he doesnt and somehow involve it in the story!

were does he keep all this crap, i mean he carry a barrel with him all the time! why not when he sees one he can use it, that it!

ok im done, im buying thsi game anyway!

winner-ps3
When I read your last sentence. I was like "Is this deja vu!". There is to muchofthese threadsbeing made.If you are truly getting this game I don't see why you should complain about this game. Like everyone always tell others, "its just a game." No need to get that realistic. But for me the game is already too realistic. Even if it does have aspects that make it kind of fake.
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#11 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Have you ever played a Mgs game?Generalkill8888

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

Then dont play it

its just a minor complaint, i will get it, its my favorite series ever, but i would be happier if they changed this

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#12 winner-ps3
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If in some way hell freezes over and this happens, I will personally hunt you down and murder you, Nazi style.Rhaxdric

thats nice of u to say

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#13 Space_Cowboy7
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Wait.....So carrying alot of guns is bad?????? Your crazy! I disagree that he should only be given weapons when he needs them, i mean who is to say when he will or wont need an RPG. Seriously i think if he wasnt able to carry that many guns, the game would be alot less fun and someone else would be complaining about him not having enough guns to take on an army.
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#14 longhorn7
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[QUOTE="longhorn7"]metal gear has never been about gritty realism winner :Pwinner-ps3

well its not the most realistic but its not a fantasy world, i can accept teh crazy story and metal gears but i reall dont like this carry infinity weapons thing

i dunno it doesnt really bother me with mgs. same thing is in other games just like in resistance
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#15 Luxen90
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I just dont get how anyone ignores all the weird things in MGS and complains saying carring all those weapons arent realistic.
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#16 Rhaxdric
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[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]If in some way hell freezes over and this happens, I will personally hunt you down and murder you, Nazi style.winner-ps3

thats nice of u to say

Sorry, I'm just honest.

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#17 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]If in some way hell freezes over and this happens, I will personally hunt you down and murder you, Nazi style.Rhaxdric

thats nice of u to say

Sorry, I'm just honest.

lol

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#18 winner-ps3
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well it seems that almost all of you like have many guns, even if its unrealistic, so forget what i said. and yes the game will be great no matter what i cant wait.

my most wanted games are

MGS4

killzone

uncharted

COD4

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#19 Rhaxdric
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Mine:

MGS4
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Team ICO's next title.

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#20 kenshinhimura16
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]If in some way hell freezes over and this happens, I will personally hunt you down and murder you, Nazi style.Rhaxdric

thats nice of u to say

Sorry, I'm just honest.

I will help you.

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#21 YPenguinY
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Being able to use all of these different items and weapons adds a lot as far as gameplay goes. Taking them out would limit our options, and MGS has increasingly made it possible to play the game how you choose...there are many ways to complete the objective (aka kill people)
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#22 furtherfan
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the entire game is extremely unrealistic.... better not worry about it and enjoy the ride
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#23 staley6565
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Here's the problem with your theory, evidenced by the recently released Metal Gear Solid:Portable Ops

In PO, you have a limited inventory, and they do make you go along the side of realism. Though the game's difficulty comes into play here, and often times you may not have a certain item you need, you may be lacking healing equipment for the longer missions, you may be missing goggles, ammo, or the most effective gun.

Here's what makes all of this bearable though: MISSION BASED STRUCTURE. At any moment you can quit, re-equip, and re-enter the battle.

For your method of dropping weapons and re-arming later, the entire game has to be made accesable at any time from any location. Lets say in MGS2 you dropped a gun you'd really been wanting in the Tanker. They'd have to make it accessable at any point in the game. Honestly, I'm expecting some locations and crap to be blown to hell in MGS4.

Here's my number one suggestion: Play the game however you want. Only use the barrell when near other barrells, pretend that's where you got it from, pick only a handful of weapons you can use.

THAT'S WHY I love MGS games, you can either do a quick play through to enjoy the cinematic aspect of the game, or you can take your time and obsess over getting everything perfect. Enjoy it how you want to!

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#24 jackle2071
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i think it's fine the way it is. there is only so much reality i want in a video game!
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#25 OGTool
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I love the fact that I can carry 8 guns at a time it allows me to be creative with my kills :D
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#26 feel_freetwo
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well this was a demo, he was carring around 300 rockets. alot of the items he was carring where there simply to make sure he never ran out. they tried to tackle this problem your sayying in mgs3. you could only carry 8 items at a time. although this had two flaws 1- 8 is to many 2- if you didnt have a item you could just go into your backpack and change your items, whcih defeated the poiint of the whole thing.
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#27 smurf-66
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you people are never happy with anything:roll:
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#28 Funglip
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying,

winner-ps3
How about you just use the M9 and pretend you only haveone gun?
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#29 sgallag_play
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Games would not be as fun if they were full realism and sure when was the last time you seen a Metal Gear on the News or a Arsenal Gear crashing into New York.
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#30 aristicero
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If you want the realism of holding a few items and weapons, join the ARMY. Seriously, games should be fun crazy things to play, not imitations of real life. Photo realistic graphics are nice but gameplay should always be an entertaining alternative to real life.
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#31 Flame_Blade88
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Have you ever played a Mgs game?Generalkill8888

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

Then dont play it

Yeah I love that you can keep all those weapons around.

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#32 Lamilia
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Its never been about realism I mean come on

there are clones in the game

there are cyborg ninjas and walking tanks too

in mgs3 it takes place in the 60s yet the soveit union has flying 1 man aircrafts (which we don't even have now)

there are these cypher things that fly around and take pictures which we also don't have

octo-cam...although they are working on it I doubt it will ever become a reality

you just throw down a "magazine" and soldiers forget about what they are doing to look and don't even care when you walk by...yeah genome soldiers created only to kill would do that

That's like saying GTA should add a gas station and cops should be impossible to get away from like in real life...it's a game if you make it too real it stops being fun.

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Nanomachines :wink:
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#34 firebreathing
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IT'd be cool if on the higher difficulty levels they made it so you had limited inventory space and your items made you move slower. That way people could play it on normal and still carry 60,000 guns and gernades and other people could play it on "realistic" and be given a challenge :)
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3 words " Its a Game"

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#36 SizeMatterzz
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Have you ever played a Mgs game?winner-ps3

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

WOW!, I've heard alot of people complain on these boards before, but to complain about how many guns the dude carrys around? You must be very bored.

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#37 Thomas-Crown
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying,

i love the game and the direction it took with the warzone and new controls, it great but that one thing is getting old!

i want him to carry a couple guns and grenades and a couple items and show it on him, this isnt oldschool gaming this is next gen. the weapons should be giving to him when he needs them and then taken away when he doesnt and somehow involve it in the story!

were does he keep all this crap, i mean he carry a barrel with him all the time! why not when he sees one he can use it, that it!

ok im done, im buying thsi game anyway!

winner-ps3

Clearly, you haven't played MGS3 which Kojima did make changes to it.

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#38 jw_burrell
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MGS is known for over the top absurd action, not realism. If you want to worry about which guns you're carrying and how many bullets you have left then go play Rainbow Six. Besides, I can remember countless times in MGS games when I ran out of bullets for the gun I wanted to use and had to use something else. It would just be a pain in the butt to go find a sniper rifle every time you needed one, or to spend thirty minutes running back to a previous part of the game to pick up that rocket launcher just to turn around and run all the way back and take out one armored vehicle. The game is about the action, having to worry about weapons and ammo like you suggest would take away from that.

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#39 the_9th_wonder
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i wish they would change the fact that snake can carry a thousand guns and grenades and items, its extremely unrealistic and is very annoying,

i love the game and the direction it took with the warzone and new controls, it great but that one thing is getting old!

i want him to carry a couple guns and grenades and a couple items and show it on him, this isnt oldschool gaming this is next gen. the weapons should be giving to him when he needs them and then taken away when he doesnt and somehow involve it in the story!

were does he keep all this crap, i mean he carry a barrel with him all the time! why not when he sees one he can use it, that it!

ok im done, im buying thsi game anyway!

winner-ps3

don't let it get to you, it's just gonna ruin the fun of an MGS game for ya.

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#40 Stall0wn3d
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there is plenty murder simulators out there to feed your limited gun holding ability needs, go play hitman or something.
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#41 ocelotcougar
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Because Metal Gears are real.

Because shooting bullets straight from your fingers is real.

Because coming back to life everytime you die is real.

Because cybernetic ninjas are real.

Because hundred year old snipers are going to wake up to kill you.

Seriously. Most realistic franchise ever, just need that last touch.

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#42 acidic_dude
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Who cares, its all about having fun, is it really realistic in MGS, MGS2 when your standing infront ofa enemyand they cant see you because your not in their vision cone? And the game looks awesome, and I hope they make it so you can carry all the weapons and items in the game, I mean even in the MGS4 demo, they showed snake blending into the ground and the enemy walking right beside him, when it was obvious that there was someone laying on the ground, so... who cares, its just about having fun.
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#43 _Captain_Ahab_
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Ugg anyone else remember the mgs 3 backpack system? That worked REAL well...
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#44 mazing87
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How about they use a weight system. The more guns Snake carry, the slower he moves or the quicker his stamina depletes. If he moves too slow for you, you can drop a couple of those weapons. I do favor realism so I can see where the original poster is coming from. He doesn't appear to be complaining.

Hey this is a much better thread than that silly thread created a few weeks ago about Meryl's hair not moving in the intial MGS trailer.

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How about they use a weight system. The more guns Snake carry, the slower he moves or the quicker his stamina depletes. If he moves too slow for you, you can drop a couple of those weapons. I do favor realism so I can see where the original poster is coming from. He doesn't appear to be complaining.

Hey this is a much better thread than that silly thread created a few weeks ago about Meryl's hair not moving in the intial MGS trailer.

mrvic87

Its been used already. Havent you guys played the damn games?

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#46 AgentZero225
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metal gear has never been about gritty realism winner :Plonghorn7

well said. TC u should know better then to question the possiblities of MGS

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#47 sebbi11
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Have you ever played a Mgs game?Generalkill8888

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

"Then don`t play it"

unfortunatly, that´s the kind of mindless response you`ll get around here.

what? he can`t critisize a game he likes?

i agree with TC to a certain degree, everytime u go into pause menu to pick one of your hundred gadgets it sort of takes u out of the experience of being a part of the story, and this game gonna take a lot of pausing... maybe weapon choosing thing could have been done in a more intuitive way without jumping out of the story and go to a pause screen.

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#48 Lamilia
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[QUOTE="mrvic87"]

How about they use a weight system. The more guns Snake carry, the slower he moves or the quicker his stamina depletes. If he moves too slow for you, you can drop a couple of those weapons. I do favor realism so I can see where the original poster is coming from. He doesn't appear to be complaining.

Hey this is a much better thread than that silly thread created a few weeks ago about Meryl's hair not moving in the intial MGS trailer.

kenshinhimura16

Its been used already. Havent you guys played the damn games?

no they haven't...thats why they are complaining about stupid little things that hardly effect the game or even benefit it.

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#49 kulmiye
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octo-cam...although they are working on it I doubt it will ever become a reality

Lamilia

I will make that a reality one day. Anyway it just looks cool to see a RPG pop out of nowhere.

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#50 Luxen90
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[QUOTE="Generalkill8888"][QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]Have you ever played a Mgs game?sebbi11

yes just about all of them, and im sick of this carry infinity weapons thing

"Then don`t play it"

unfortunatly, that´s the kind of mindless response you`ll get around here.

what? he can`t critisize a game he likes?

i agree with TC to a certain degree, everytime u go into pause menu to pick one of your hundred gadgets it sort of takes u out of the experience of being a part of the story, and this game gonna take a lot of pausing... maybe weapon choosing thing could have been done in a more intuitive way without jumping out of the story and go to a pause screen.

You dont go in a pause menu to get your gadgets and weapons...