MGS4 won't be 1080p

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#1 Mfals
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Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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[QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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#4 mobius1979
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720p at 30fps is good enough IMO....1080p is nice but over rated.
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#5 abudjasim
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He did say that, but he also said Sony is pushing him to do it in 1080p. On the other hand, he was pushing Kutaragi to bring back rumble to the PS3. And looks like he'll get what he wanted (and what we all wanted). So Kojima will consider what everybody wants wich is MGS4 in 1080p @ 60 Fps. If TECMO can do it, the geniuses at Kojima-productions can do it too.
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#6 mobius1979
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^^ u cant compare NGS and MGS4, NGS use the old xbox graphics engine with new HD texture it s quite easy to upscale it to 1080p@ 60fps with the power of the PS3... MGS4 is in another league , it is a true next gen game, NGS is not.
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Come on Kojima! Go out with a bang!!!
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I kinda would like to see MSG4 at 1080p with 60 fps. But can live w/ 720 at 30 fps. But yea Kojami. Go out with a bang.
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[QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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* Kojima
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#11 Macolele
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I'm glad to hear this. I like smooth and high detail than 1080p.
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#12 l-town4l
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I doubt it will be 60 fps
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[QUOTE="Mfals"][QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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MGS4 is going to own everyone.:D
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[QUOTE="joelejuif"][QUOTE="Mfals"][QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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720p at 30fps is good enough IMO....1080p is nice but over rated.mobius1979

You couldn't be any more wrong. 720p is 921,600 pixels. 1080p is 2,073,600 pixels. If you had a 1080p TV you would know this is HUGE.

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#17 Sambo234
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are TV's capable of broadcasting more than 29.9 FPS?
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^ of course.
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I think 720p would be just fine.
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#20 vip3r666
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motorstorm on my TV looks sick as hell and its only 720P
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it doesn't matter to me, as long as the game itself is good, which i know it will be
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[QUOTE="814StopsToday"][QUOTE="joelejuif"][QUOTE="Mfals"][QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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It will run in 480i 25 fps.

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[QUOTE="814StopsToday"][QUOTE="joelejuif"][QUOTE="Mfals"][QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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[QUOTE="vip3r666"][QUOTE="814StopsToday"][QUOTE="joelejuif"][QUOTE="Mfals"][QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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Kojima himself said the game will run at 1080p. Just like all new PS3 games will.
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#26 snipe2004
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kojima shouldnt settle for anything less than a masterpiece. so he should try and do it 1080p and 60fps. indeed go out with a bang.
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I kinda would like to see MSG4 at 1080p with 60 fps. But can live w/ 720 at 30 fps. But yea Kojami. Go out with a bang. phoenixrebirth

Wait what he is leaving T__T Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo (this true?)

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[QUOTE="mobius1979"]720p at 30fps is good enough IMO....1080p is nice but over rated.Taijiquan

You couldn't be any more wrong. 720p is 921,600 pixels. 1080p is 2,073,600 pixels. If you had a 1080p TV you would know this is HUGE.

I have a sony 1080p TV set and the difference is minimal, i have tried different games with both resolutions and the difference is NOT " HUGE" as u claim so stop it, like i said 1080p for video games is over rated, for movies on the other hand it is great.

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[QUOTE="Mfals"][QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="Mfals"]

Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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[QUOTE="mobius1979"]720p at 30fps is good enough IMO....1080p is nice but over rated.mobius1979

You couldn't be any more wrong. 720p is 921,600 pixels. 1080p is 2,073,600 pixels. If you had a 1080p TV you would know this is HUGE.

I have a sony 1080p TV set and the difference is minimal, i have tried different games with both resolutions and the difference is NOT " HUGE" as u claim so stop it, like i said 1080p for video games is over rated, for movies on the other hand it is great.

I call BS on this. PC Gamers have been buying state of the art hardware for years so that they can support the higher resolutions. You want proof? Hook your PC up to your TV and try 720p and then 1080p on your desktop. Now boot a game. The difference is overwhelming. Infact, compare Ridge Racer Demo on the PS3. Run it in 720p/1080i and notice all the aliasing issues. Notice how the backround is not even close to as clear as it is in 1080p without any aliasing issues. There is no grain or motion blur.

For those doubting this, trythis on your monitor.

Try this resolution,1024x768= 786,432. Now try 1600 x 1200= 1,920,000.

1,920,000 - 786,432 =1,133,568

See how clear 1600x1200 is compared to 1024x768? Look at the pixel count!! 1,133,568 difference

Look at 720p compared to 1080p.

2,073,600 - 921,600 = 1,152,000. I think this is a good way to test.

My guess isyou A) Don't have one. B) Your parents do and they won't let you hook your PS3 to it :D:D:D:D.

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Didn't Kojima said it himself that he doesn't give a damn about HD?

I bet everything that at the end MGS4 will be 720p running at 30FPS.

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ok first of all i bougt my own tv, and all i have said is IN MY OPINION 1080p is nice but over rated, and 720p for MGS4 wouldn't be the end of the world. You can throw all kind of stats on the different resolutions all you want every body that is knowlagable about High definition know those things already. So u dont need to try to make yourslef seem smart by listing all that crap.

I call BS on this. PC Gamers have been buying state of the art hardware for years so that they can support the higher resolutions. You want proof? Hook your PC up to your TV and try 720p and then 1080p on your desktop. Now boot a game. The difference is overwhelming. Infact, compare Ridge Racer Demo on the PS3. Run it in 720p/1080i and notice all the aliasing issues. Notice how the backround is not even close to as clear as it is in 1080p without any aliasing issues. There is no grain or motion blur.


My guess isyou A) Don't have one. B) Your parents do and they won't let you hook your PS3 to it :D:D:D:D.

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i'd rather have 720p at 60fps then 1080p at 30fps.
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ok first of all i bougt my own tv, and all i have said is IN MY OPINION 1080p is nice but over rated, and 720p for MGS4 wouldn't be the end of the world. You can throw all kind of stats on the different resolutions all you want every body that is knowlagable about High definition know those things already. So u dont need to try to make yourslef seem smart by listing all that crap.

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I call BS on this. PC Gamers have been buying state of the art hardware for years so that they can support the higher resolutions. You want proof? Hook your PC up to your TV and try 720p and then 1080p on your desktop. Now boot a game. The difference is overwhelming. Infact, compare Ridge Racer Demo on the PS3. Run it in 720p/1080i and notice all the aliasing issues. Notice how the backround is not even close to as clear as it is in 1080p without any aliasing issues. There is no grain or motion blur.


My guess isyou A) Don't have one. B) Your parents do and they won't let you hook your PS3 to it :D:D:D:D.

We don't share the same eyes obviously. I notice a huge difference.

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does it really matter? as long as its a good game who really cares MGS4FTW!
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#38 furtherfan
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1. misleading topic title (is that a certain kind of people)

2. i hope it will be 720p 60fps. 1080p will not add anyting to the experience.

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1. misleading topic title (is that a certain kind of people)

2. i hope it will be 720p 60fps. 1080p will not add anyting to the experience.

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1080p will add a significant visual enhancement to the experience.

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#40 mobius1979
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1. misleading topic title (is that a certain kind of people)

2. i hope it will be 720p 60fps. 1080p will not add anyting to the experience.

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thx my point exactly
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#41 furtherfan
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1. misleading topic title (is that a certain kind of people)

2. i hope it will be 720p 60fps. 1080p will not add anyting to the experience.

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1080p will add a significant visual enhancement to the experience.

not true. they would have to make textures that are detailed up to 1080p level. the resolution will need much more power.

In reality 1080p games now don't offer much more to the experience. in many cases, to obtain this resolution, they have to lower the framerate or even texture detail.

The only games where it does make a difference is in very simple games like super stardust or games where very little is going on on screen.

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[QUOTE="Taijiquan"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

1. misleading topic title (is that a certain kind of people)

2. i hope it will be 720p 60fps. 1080p will not add anyting to the experience.

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1080p will add a significant visual enhancement to the experience.

not true. they would have to make textures that are detailed up to 1080p level. the resolution will need much more power.

In reality 1080p games now don't offer much more to the experience. in many cases, to obtain this resolution, they have to lower the framerate or even texture detail.

The only games where it does make a difference is in very simple games like super stardust or games where very little is going on on screen.

In one post you say that 1080p does not add anything to the experience. Next post you say 1080p games now don't offer much more to the experience. Either it does or doesn't which you obviously have not made you mind up. Bottom line is, it does. Period. I have already offered examples for people to try.I have 4 HDTVs(including my HDTV Monitor.)

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#43 Brendruis
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Show me this quote where Hideo Kojima pronounces, "I don't give a **** about HD"

You're full of **** XBoy