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#1 P-vs-P
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They said MGS4 graphics wouldn't be possible on X360 but herecomes MGS:R with even more superior graphics than MGS4, what's up with that?

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#2 conistant
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Go ask Hideo Kojima if you want the answer.
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#3 LightR
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I dunno, maybe they've found a way to get more power out of the 360, which usually happens with consoles over time. Also it may be multiple discs on the 360, since MGS4 almost took up a whole Blu-Ray disc (I think). Or they're cutting back on stuff.
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#4 hxczuner
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They said MGS4 graphics wouldn't be possible on X360 but herecomes MGS:R with even more superior graphics than MGS4, what's up with that?

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All I'm going to say is: That was a CG trailer, not a demo of the game running on a 360. It's impossible to judge right now .

*edit. I forgot about the gameplay :/ Still. I don't think it really look that much better than MGS4, tbh. We'll see, like I said, too early to say

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I always thought they said MGS4 was impossible due to the size of the game itself.
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#6 gameofthering
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I'm sure he didn't mean it couldn't be done on 360 because of graphics, it must have been some other reason.

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#7 Ripcurl530
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The reason it couldn't be done on 360 was that it took too much space on disk. I think I remember hearing all the sound was uncompressed. To fit all the cutscenes, sounds and everything on a DVD, it will be heavily compressed. This is not necessarily a bad thing if done right. But there are cases like FFXIII where compressed videos are obvious.
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They said MGS4 graphics wouldn't be possible on X360 but herecomes MGS:R with even more superior graphics than MGS4, what's up with that?

P-vs-P

nooooo he said they couldnt fit the whole game onto the 360 because of the size of the game, he nexer mentioned graphics

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#9 2Chalupas
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Metal Gear solid IV took up 40+ GB. That is 5DVD's worth. The game has been passed over by other PS3 games in terms of graphics. Of course it could be "done" on 360, but content would have to be cut and/or the movie scenes would have to be 'compressed" as others already stated.
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#10 Flame_Blade88
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It was the size the game took up, nothing to do with the graphics.
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#11 TheEldestGod
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They said MGS4 graphics wouldn't be possible on X360 but herecomes MGS:R with even more superior graphics than MGS4, what's up with that?

P-vs-P
I'm pretty sure no one said that unless "they" are a PS3 fanboy. The only thing in MGS that the 360 couldn't do is play the whole game off a single disc.
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#12 P-vs-P
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K Thanks everybody

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#13 Twister_69
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Go ask Hideo Kojima if you want the answer.conistant

That's the man right there.8)

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#14 PSP107
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you ppl have to understand that MGS4 was in development before the PS3's release. It could be considered a 1st gen game. like someone mentioned, other games have passed it. If the next MGS is indeed a PS3 exclusive, look out Killzone 2/3, Uncharted 2 and God Of War 3.
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]you ppl have to understand that MGS4 was in development before the PS3's release. It could be considered a 1st gen game. like someone mentioned, other games have passed it. If the next MGS is indeed a PS3 exclusive, look out Killzone 2/3, Uncharted 2 and God Of War 3.

^This. Kojima's next "massive" PS3 exclusive is going to make these games look like a 360 game :P
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#16 Young_Charter
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First I have to....lol because that was funny...
Go ask Hideo Kojima if you want the answer.conistant
but hxczuner is correct when he says it is jsut a CGI trailer...but just like how FFXIII turned outt to be better on PS3 than 360, I won't be surprised if Kojima-san juices us up on PS3 more than 360.. You guys have to think about that now..Whne it comes to multi plat, it's all about who has the better version now.
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#17 Foxh0und666
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Relax man, we saw like 5 seconds of gameplay and people are already jumping to assumptions about every little thing. Wait for more gameplay footage to come out first. IMO it did look pretty similar to MGS4, just slightly more polished.

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#18 Pro_Snuggles
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I don't know why people keep saying ask Hideo, or oh man this is going to be a sweet Hideo game. He's a producer who's given a "little" input into the game, he's not the director this time. You might as well say Transformers 2 was going to be brilliant because Spielberg was the Producer. They've already admitted Metal Gear Gaiden Rising, I mean. Metal Gear Rising is going to be nothing like the tense stealth and deep story formula used in previous MGS titles. This looks and sounds like a next gen Ninja Gaiden shoved into the MGS mythopedia.
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#19 yoda4ps3
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]you ppl have to understand that MGS4 was in development before the PS3's release. It could be considered a 1st gen game. like someone mentioned, other games have passed it. If the next MGS is indeed a PS3 exclusive, look out Killzone 2/3, Uncharted 2 and God Of War 3. hxczuner
^This. Kojima's next "massive" PS3 exclusive is going to make these games look like a 360 game :P

You sir, deserve a cookie for that statement haha

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#20 Disturbed123
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Not graphics, its the size of the game wouldnt fit on a single Dual layer DVD. Much like FFXIII, in which graphics and variation of discs was the sacrifice to port it on 360.

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#21 Gxgear
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It's been 2 years?

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#22 Young_Charter
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It's been 2 years?

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For MGS4 ? Yes, the game came out june 2008.
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#23 brickdoctor
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It was mainly fanboys claiming that MGS4 couldn't be done on the 360. Gears of War 2 was out quite a while before MGS4 and it looks better.

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#24 NukePistols
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It was about the graphics, but the size of the game.
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#25 ThePerro
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I believe a Blu ray disc has a capacity of 40 gbs, whereas a DVD has about 8 gigs of space. I still think the graphics MGS4 was pushing is still possible on 360, but then disc storage is the problem. MGS4 had great graphics, but they weren't the best ever, I haven't seen much of Rising, but from what I've seen the graphics look a tad better, but not by much.

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#26 Elian2530
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Blu-ray vs DVD, it's about the size... not the graphics. Go look up Xbox 360 and PS3 system specs before you start a system wars here.. *sigh*
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#27 anime_gamer007
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MGS:Rising will likely have smaller levels and despite being a hack n slash game it will probably have less action on screen than MGS4. Recall the urban fights in the Middles East? Or the large scale battles in South America? I'm pretty sure MGS: Rising won't have those . I have the feeling it will end up being like FF13 where with a some compression they'll fit it on the 360.
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#28 anime_gamer007
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It was mainly fanboys claiming that MGS4 couldn't be done on the 360. Gears of War 2 was out quite a while before MGS4 and it looks better.

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.......................................MGS4 came out before Gears 2. Also I feel MGS4 had better graphics simply because it had a larger color palette besides gray, black, brown, some more gray, some more brown and covered in red.

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#29 brickdoctor
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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

It was mainly fanboys claiming that MGS4 couldn't be done on the 360. Gears of War 2 was out quite a while before MGS4 and it looks better.

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.......................................MGS4 came out before Gears 2. Also I feel MGS4 had better graphics simply because it had a larger color palette besides gray, black, brown, some more gray, some more brown and covered in red.

Oops, you're right about Gears 2, but color palette is graphical design, I'm pretty sure Gears 2 was better from a technical standpoint, and you didn't have to install each level all the time. It's kind of like Uncharted 2 vs. Killzone 2. Many will say that Uncharted 2 looks better, and I agree, but from a technical standpoint KZ2 is better.

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#30 Young_Charter
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Blu-ray vs DVD, it's about the size... not the graphics. Go look up Xbox 360 and PS3 system specs before you start a system wars here.. *sigh*Elian2530
Correct
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#31 Fightingfan
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Don't see how MGS4 isn't possible on 360. Mgs4 runs at 576p and has low res textures. The game could fit on 360 if it had about 3-4 discs like Final Fantasy.
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#32 Young_Charter
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Don't see how MGS4 isn't possible on 360. Mgs4 runs at 576p and has low res textures. The game could fit on 360 if it had about 3-4 discs like Final Fantasy.Fightingfan
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I always thought they said MGS4 was impossible due to the size of the game itself.MushroomWig
Which leads me to believe this game wont be all it could be.
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#34 Young_Charter
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]I always thought they said MGS4 was impossible due to the size of the game itself.Kokuro_Kun
Which leads me to believe this game wont be all it could be.

You never know if MGSR is more than 1 disc...You never know.