MOH Beta!!!...is not good, at all.

The explosive damage needs to be amplified because a grenade launcher or a rocket exploding next to you will WILL kill you.

I keep putting on MOH hoping "Is today going to be the day the freezing is fixed?"
but no, it is not. It's a shame because otherwise this game might be pretty good, so far though from what I think I really may just skip the full game and stick to BC2, I like the gameplay of BC2 better.

I played the beta myself for a few hours and it is horrible but it does have potential. But I dont know how they release a beta in this condition and not have it affect our beliefs about the game. Theres a lot of things that need fixing. But I'll just wait for black ops.

Agree'd. Its just garbage. It is just mindless killing. No team work, you can't pick up enemies guns. The whole beta wreaks of fail.

Agree'd. Its just garbage. It is just mindless killing. No team work, you can't pick up enemies guns. The whole beta wreaks of fail.

Taijiquan

that describes pretty much every shooter out there, so if we're going by that standard then every shooter is garbage

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Agree'd. Its just garbage. It is just mindless killing. No team work, you can't pick up enemies guns. The whole beta wreaks of fail.

AJC3317

that describes pretty much every shooter out there, so if we're going by that standard then every shooter is garbage

Wrong. There are a lot of shooters out there that offer great team work gameplay and that are simply more satisfying then the MOH beta. MOH really offers nothing at this stage imo. Way to many other games coming in the next few months to even consider this game atleast as far as the Mper is concerned.

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Agree'd. Its just garbage. It is just mindless killing. No team work, you can't pick up enemies guns. The whole beta wreaks of fail.

AJC3317

that describes pretty much every shooter out there

It seems like everyone panicking has completely forgotten that games now days tend to be delayed *cough**cough* Gran Turismo 5 *cough*. If the game is really in terrible condition as everyone here says it is, I'm sure they'll push back the release date. Wouldn't surprise me, but let's give them time. A lot of changes can be made in five months.

Also, why does it freeze a lot? That needs to be fixed right away.

me, my brother, and 2 friends in squads do nothing but tactics in battlefield. We roll with a medic, sniper, assault and engineer. That game is NOT mindless shooting at all. I've blown up our own bomb sight in port valdez(A) to focus the team in on B and it works. That's pretty tactical IMO.

ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE JUST LIKE BFBC2. Honestly, If I see people compare it over and over I am going to puke. Yes, the mp is made by DICE and sure it bares resembleance to BC but its not suppose to be an exact copy and I never expected it to be. I love it because it is fast, fun and feels like a hybrid between MW and BC. I think thats a good thing. This game has much easier aiming than most and the weapon balance seems better than most games. I prefer the snipers in this game cause they don't float all over the place you are trying to shoot from a boat on water. It has graphics similar to BC but it has cleaner textures I believe and I am digging the whole Marines vs Taliban ordeal. Gives a sense of realism that other games neglect by adding fake militias to fight.

My only gripe so far with the beta has been the constant freezing, which is far worse than any minor gameplay bugs. Its happened so often to me that I dread rebooting my PS3 to play this. How can they release the beta knowing about this MAJOR problem. I am sure it will be fixed before launch but I hope they fix it by the end of the week or my playtime with this beta will be short.

If you don't like MOH..cool. Stop playing it and go back to BFBC2 or MW2 or whatever it is that floats your boat. The rest of us will be quite happy to be fraggin each other for another few weeks on MOH.

tbs76

I think the problem is that a lot of people thought it would take the good parts of bf and cod, not the worst. When i heard DICE was doing it i thought it would be a lot more team oriented. Thats why i like bf more than cod, b/c im not just a lone wolf searching for someone to kill i am focused on helping my team with an objective. It just seems they targeted all of CODs fans and none of Bf, which is a mistake since Bf players will b attracted to it since they know DICE only to find out they just reskinned COD with BF skins. It almost feels like they dont care. The saying when Uncharted 2 came out was that they didnt do any thing new, they just perfected it. It seems MOH doesnt do anything new, yet it takes those things and actually made them worse.

me, my brother, and 2 friends in squads do nothing but tactics in battlefield. We roll with a medic, sniper, assault and engineer. That game is NOT mindless shooting at all. I've blown up our own bomb sight in port valdez(A) to focus the team in on B and it works. That's pretty tactical IMO.

PreparationH123

Not every shooter is mindless killing. Why is it that when everytime someone brings something like that up, someone spouts out that line?

There are numerous shooters that require stragety and thinking to actually be good at them. With the Battlefield series (all of them including BC2), you can run around and shoot like a headless chicken if you really want to, but if you want to actually support your team, you have to think.

Agree'd. Its just garbage. It is just mindless killing. No team work, you can't pick up enemies guns. The whole beta wreaks of fail.

Taijiquan

almost every time I play port valdez as defender in the first zone I knock off A and it forces the entire team to focus in on B, it works like a charm.

I'm thinking this game gets a 7 tops, unless the campaign is amazing.

BigBoss96fs

I'm thinking this game gets a 7 tops, unless the campaign is amazing.

Legitimate complaints aside from "headshots are extremely overpowered". What? Unless a bullet whizzing by them counts then I don't see your point. Both Modern Warfare 2 and Bad Company 2 both feature one headshot kills... as it should be. B:BC2 players will argue that headshots aren't 1-hit kill but they are, it just isn't instant. If you walk up to someone, pull out your handgun, and shoot them in the back of the head they will die, just a second later. Me and a friend tested this for a little while and it works at virtually every range with whatever gun. Headshot, wait a second, you get the kill and experience for it.

But yeah the rest of it seemed like actual problems that I hope are addressed.

IndianaPwns39

Its just a beta, the full game will never be like that.

Its just a beta, the full game will never be like that.

Venom_Raptor

After seeing the E3 multiplayer trailer, I was extremely excited. I preordered it to get into the beta, and now I am extremely disappointed. Before everyone gets sensitive and starts saying "It's only a beta...FAIL!", realize that the game is only a few months away from release. I played the Bad Company 2 beta for both PS3 and 360, and though it had bugs, it was still a great game at heart. This is just a bad game. All bugs and glitches aside, the choices DICE made were poor. I cannot stress enough thatgamers should be warned that this game has little to nothing in common with Bad Company 2, and is more like a poorly designed Modern Warfare 1. The guns have zero recoil, maps are small and cramped, headshots are extremely overpowered (reminds me of Metal Gear Online but worse), "fixed" weapon selection based on team is irritating, and hitmarkers are really flawed. Anything short of a headshot takes almost a full mag to kill. I made it about 30 minutes before I went back to playing Bad Company 2 and Modern Warfare 2. And as I stated, these aren't BETA problems, the game just isn't very good. I hope the Campaign is great, because I am extremely disappointed. I will be cancelling my pre-order and waiting to see the very mediocre review scores this game will get if the multiplayer doesn't get a complete overhaul. DICE really let me down on this one. And I am really questioning those actually like the BETA. I feellike they own neither BFBC2 orCOD games. Or they just have blind allegiance to EA and DICE, because I went in with a very open mind, but thisis just a mess (and yes, I did very well during the time I played, because I realized early on that headshots are the key to winning. It just got boring quick, so don't start the comments that I'm not very good at the game). Just thought I would let people know that the trailer is very misleading based on this stage of the BETA. And I am focusing on design choices, not any bugs that will be fixed. My problems will most likely still be in the final version. I'm thinking this game gets a 7 tops, unless the campaign is amazing.

BigBoss96fs

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Its just a beta, the full game will never be like that.

Solid_Tango

Everyone here is still complaining about the beta and I'm still trying to get in, haha. :P

Here's a thought: Seeing as this IS a beta you could, you know, TELL THE DEVELOPERS. You know, since this is a BETA and not a DEMO. People forget this fact. They'd rather complain to their friends and be all "OMG, GAME IS HORRIBLE" about it. Most of the issues it sounds like people are having can be either tweaked or patched. By not making use of the fact that YOU can contribute since you're technically a tester you're allowing these gripes to slip through the cracks into the final product (Example: Modern Warfare 2).

Besides, you're playing the game early with a chance to aid in the development process. How cool is that? Seems like everyone is more than content to just play it, say "It sucks!" then when the game comes out be like, "See, I TOLD you!" Slightly unrelated, but similar in nature were all the people posting in the thread for Sony's E3 Conference. I read the whole thread and literally the half of it (70 pages) were people complaining about it and saying it sucks, that they weren't gonna keep watching, and that it was the worst conference out of the big 3. This was 40 MINUTES into a conference that was 2 HOURS LONG.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that today as gamers many of us are spoiled. This sense of entitlement and snobbery are just more reasons that gamers are labeled as immature.

Criticism is fine. I just hate when people don't give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. "It's not good" or "It sucks" or "It's not fun" don't help anybody. We're adults (hopefully). Learn to verbalize your thoughts and ideas parenthetically and succinctly.

Oh and don't worry, I'll expound further on this in a blog. ;)

When was the last good MOH game? Allied Assault?

[QUOTE="YoungSinatra25"][QUOTE="A-l-g-r-e-n"] MoH was never a critically acclaimed series.A-l-g-r-e-n

Shenanigans. Medal of Honor (original) and MoH: Allied Assault scored in the 90's on metacritic, and the series as a whole received the "Best selling FPS franchise" award in the 2008 Guinness World Records: Gamer's Edition of 2008. The scores show that two of the games were critically acclaimed, and a handful scored in the 80's, while the rest took the 70's. Mostly AAA's and AA's = critically acclaimed.

Everyone here is still complaining about the beta and I'm still trying to get in, haha. :P

Here's a thought: Seeing as this IS a beta you could, you know, TELL THE DEVELOPERS. You know, since this is a BETA and not a DEMO. People forget this fact. They'd rather complain to their friends and be all "OMG, GAME IS HORRIBLE" about it. Most of the issues it sounds like people are having can be either tweaked or patched. By not making use of the fact that YOU can contribute since you're technically a tester you're allowing these gripes to slip through the cracks into the final product (Example: Modern Warfare 2).

Besides, you're playing the game early with a chance to aid in the development process. How cool is that? Seems like everyone is more than content to just play it, say "It sucks!" then when the game comes out be like, "See, I TOLD you!" Slightly unrelated, but similar in nature were all the people posting in the thread for Sony's E3 Conference. I read the whole thread and literally the half of it (70 pages) were people complaining about it and saying it sucks, that they weren't gonna keep watching, and that it was the worst conference out of the big 3. This was 40 MINUTES into a conference that was 2 HOURS LONG.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that today as gamers many of us are spoiled. This sense of entitlement and snobbery are just more reasons that gamers are labeled as immature.

Criticism is fine. I just hate when people don't give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. "It's not good" or "It sucks" or "It's not fun" don't help anybody. We're adults (hopefully). Learn to verbalize your thoughts and ideas parenthetically and succinctly.

Oh and don't worry, I'll expound further on this in a blog. ;)

Everyone here is still complaining about the beta and I'm still trying to get in, haha. :P

Here's a thought: Seeing as this IS a beta you could, you know, TELL THE DEVELOPERS. You know, since this is a BETA and not a DEMO. People forget this fact. They'd rather complain to their friends and be all "OMG, GAME IS HORRIBLE" about it. Most of the issues it sounds like people are having can be either tweaked or patched. By not making use of the fact that YOU can contribute since you're technically a tester you're allowing these gripes to slip through the cracks into the final product (Example: Modern Warfare 2).

Besides, you're playing the game early with a chance to aid in the development process. How cool is that? Seems like everyone is more than content to just play it, say "It sucks!" then when the game comes out be like, "See, I TOLD you!" Slightly unrelated, but similar in nature were all the people posting in the thread for Sony's E3 Conference. I read the whole thread and literally the half of it (70 pages) were people complaining about it and saying it sucks, that they weren't gonna keep watching, and that it was the worst conference out of the big 3. This was 40 MINUTES into a conference that was 2 HOURS LONG.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that today as gamers many of us are spoiled. This sense of entitlement and snobbery are just more reasons that gamers are labeled as immature.

Criticism is fine. I just hate when people don't give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. "It's not good" or "It sucks" or "It's not fun" don't help anybody. We're adults (hopefully). Learn to verbalize your thoughts and ideas parenthetically and succinctly.

Oh and don't worry, I'll expound further on this in a blog. ;)

Well lets not jump to conclusions but if Medal of Honor really is that bad there are so many other shooters coming out around that time. Crysis 2 Socom 4 Ghost Recon and Killzone 2 will all be good games so just take your pick between them if your not going to buy Medal of Honor

It has nothing to do with the beta but I'm not gonna buy MoHnow, I think I'd rather pick up crysis 2

the beta wasnt that bad, but it was very laggy when i played it this morning, in other cases, the whole system freezes at times when there's too much craziness going on at once

the beta wasnt that bad, but it was very laggy when i played it this morning, in other cases, the whole system freezes at times when there's too much craziness going on at once

killerband55

this is only the beta, haha for what it is, i enjoy it legionofdugi

[QUOTE="legionofdugi"]this is only the beta, haha for what it is, i enjoy it Young_Charter

A 3 years old perception and attention aint great... MoH is a big name it just hasn't been good since before COD/IW arrived. (IW was found by former MoH devs) So yeah I'll state if you aint been gaming 20 years your new to gaming.YoungSinatra25

Guys, if your looking for a less hectic and crazy first person shooter then MOH is the game for you. I've had games in MW2 on the map highrise on SnD where i lost the game because my friends foot was sticking out of a wall and was killed from being shot. That was the game winning kill, thats when i decided MW2 needs to be trashed.

I'm a bit disappointed with it, to be honest. Granted its just a demo, but it's got some game-killing bugs. The graphics aren't up to par, and I'd be willing to overlook that if the gameplay was anything special, but its not. I absolutely hate how the weapons are team specific. It seems WAY to easy to get headshots for some reason too. The two maps are kind of lame.

Overall it just seems like a dumbed down BF:BC2.

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Agree'd. Its just garbage. It is just mindless killing. No team work, you can't pick up enemies guns. The whole beta wreaks of fail.

that describes pretty much every shooter out there

[QUOTE="AJC3317"]

that describes pretty much every shooter out there

you guys are crazy, add me: mikebmx215 I'll show you teamwork in BC2

where can we talk to the game devs and inform them of the problems in the beta?Nerkle01

Here

I agree with what many have said -- it's the beta, expect problems, they'll get fixed -- yes, this is true. However, the game is only a few months away. They can't do a complete overhaul. Is it needed? I dunno -- I mean, to be honest, it just doesn't have that *spark* that KZ 2 or COD 4 had for me.

KZ 3, SOCOM 4, Black Ops could be good if only Black Ops makes multiplayer less.... complicated? The amount of stuff you can unlock through killstreaks and deathstreaks in MW 2 was absolutely absurd in my mind. COD 4 gameplay with more weapons, new environments... I'm there. SOCOM 4 will hopefully appeal to the hardcore tactical shooter crowd, and KZ 3... will blow everyone's mind.