MW2 vs BFBC2 arguement is getting old.

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#1 zachdragon
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I mean seriously They are both great games and I'm tired of people saying they hate MW2. People only say this because they aren't very good at the game or they complain about being killed by campers when I myself never have a big issue with camping IW fixed all the early online glitches. MW2 is a awesome game high action high intensity game that why the smaller levels work better.

BFBC2 is also a great game and if your been playing MW2 like I have since it came out its nice to have something new. the maps are huge and are very cool to travel especially with vehicles like Quadbikes my personal favorite. the destructable envirments are also very exciting and play an excellent role in the combat. However the controls in BFBC2 are not as good as MW2 and the game is not quite as sharp MW2 is must faster paced.

Anyways the point of this thread was just to explain too the people that debating on buying either one soon. I have seen many threads where people jump on there complaining about MW2 and BFBC2 is their savior when the honest truth is they weren't very good at MW2 its been getting really riduclous sometimes.

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#2 legionofdugi
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I agree completely, but unfortunately this post wont stop the haters
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#3 bloodling
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Saw some hate too, made me want to play MW2.

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#4 zachdragon
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Thanks man atleastI got somebody to agree with me lol

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#5 WR_Platinum
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So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

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#6 trav19882
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WR i completely agree with you..running and gunning is pretty fun sometimes but then again its to fake. Dont get me wrong i think MW2 is a good game i just got so sick of it in like 3 weeks after release. Most people i know that play MW2 are terrible at other games, and that being said it is a dumbed down shooter but a good one at least. These people that say if you dont like MW2 you must suck at it are retarded because a kid with downsyndrome could pick it up and go 20 and 2 haha too easy in my opinion
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#7 Blackbase88
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They both have their advantages. I agree here

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#8 _CaptainHappy_
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I havent heard anything about any fight involving those 2 games. All ive heard is that MW2 sucks which im starting to agree with because I cant play a game without someone hacking.

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#9 thelastguy
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I loved COD4 and played it for hundreds of hours

They wrecked MW2 by making it too noob friendly, not to mention the game is glitchy and laggy like hell

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#10 PoisoN_Facecam0
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I have a 2.0 kill death ratio and 36k kills on MW2... its multiplayer is shallow and unrefined compared to BFBC2 imo.. its the FPS for casuals..
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#11 jdardant
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I bought BC2 yesterday and my first feeling was that it is much harder to start with... I think that both games are good (except the connections problems on MW2 that really gets on my nerves) but not dedicated to the same type of players. BC2 will attract people who likes big maps, difficulty, strategy and take their time MW2 is more a fast paced, arcady game I think I will continue to play both games.
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#12 Eazy1891
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i deff hear you but i promise it doesnt apply to me i just hate MW2 for how easy it is and i cant see how someone could be bad at the game but id get at least 20 kills a round and i was only average in BFBC 2 while playing it and i like it a lot more....personally i picked MAG over both of them though i think its under rated and i see too many people saying it sucked and theyre talking about the beta....but dont get it twisted BFBC2 is best out of the 3....
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#13 M0wen10
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I agree, it annoys me when people start arguing saying which one is better. Iend up siding with MW2 most of the time because all aof the haters.For single player they are both awesome, didn't enjoy the multiplayer for BC2, so I'm sticking with MW2 :)

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#14 M0wen10
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I have a 2.0 kill death ratio and 36k kills on MW2... its multiplayer is shallow and unrefined compared to BFBC2 imo.. its the FPS for casuals.. PoisoN_Facecam0

See! Thats what the guy who created this topic means, you come aross as arrogant thinking you know best. If you don't like MW2 multiplayer, great for you. Millions like it, so no one is going to miss you :roll:

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#15 commandercrap
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I find it funny that you post this...

I actually prefer BFBC2 over MW2, which I've been playing all the way up to BFBC 2's release. I had been playing for 2 days, and a friend of mine wants to play MW2 because he'd never played online. So he plays and goes 0-10. Then I take over and get him to 12 -10. Then I play another game, couldnt stand watching him destroy my K/D ratio, and go 19 - 6 after he died 4 times.

I love BFBC2 because of the unlocks and the vehicles / environment. It's also much more fun for sniping. Not everyone who prefers BFBC2 is terrible at MW2, I just find that it's a more enjoyable experience. MW2 is an arcade shooter, where BFBC2 isn't so much. They are different games in a sense, you can't compare the two on exactly the same level.

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#16 yworry69
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as someone who loves mw2 and has been playing since release I'm going to tell you why bc2 is the better game. I'm only talking multiplayer wise, as what COD brings to the table for single player as well as having co-op really sets it apart from bad company.

Destructible envrionments

Better graphics

Vehicles

Much much much better sound (impressive cuz mw2 has always had good sound)

More players (especially on pc version, but I enjoy the ps3 one a lot as well)

More realistic gun fire/recoil/gravity effecting bullets at longer distances

Combat knife is much more realistic

This next one is really subjective but NO PRONE. IMO prone is important for mw2 because of the size of the maps,but it also really encourages camping. I personally don't like when people complain about camping in mw2 because these people are usually morons who only play TDM and not objective based games. Of course camping/cruising the outside of the map is the most effective in TDM because the entire game is based around killstreaks which brings me to my next point.

Killstreaks detract from the realism of the game because not only are they stupidly overpowered vs the average terrible player, but after I get my killstreaks in a weak game...I usually want to go die so I can start loading them up again WHICH BRNGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT

DYING is insignificant in mw2 except in tdm and even then it's fairly meaningless. DYING MATTERS in bc2 both on offense and defense. Spawn placement is KEY and spawning on your squadmates inherently makes it more team based and gives it a gritty, war like feel.

But the real thing that separates bc2 from mw2 is something that's hard to touch upon because it's pretty tangible but summed up very nicely in the gamespot review

The online multiplayer in this modern military shooter is a standout, featuring huge maps, incredible destructibility, powerful vehicles, and excellent sound design. These elements combine to foster the sense that you are fighting on an actual battlefield, making many other online shooters seem more like combat arenas than believable war zones.

You really do feel like you're out in the world making these pushes and defensive stands where every decision counts. You have so many options on how to play it's disgusting. It's a level of immersiveness that MW2 will never be able to compete with.

And that my friends, is why bc2 is the better multiplayer game.

I will say that mw2 has always had the aiming/shooting mechanics down, and if you're looking for an arcadey shooter, or somewhere to play a quick round, it's your best bet. I haven't touched it since I got bc2 though, and I doubt I will unless my friends want to play it.

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#17 GingerDeadMan
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I love how the OP wants the debate to stop so he openly pours full on the fire by starting this thread and comparing and contrasting the two games. They're both great games but they're both great in different ways, we get that. I find myself just as annoyed by all these threads as the next guy but I've never legitimately heard a good argument for why one is better than the other.

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#18 oajlu
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Destructible envrionments

Better graphics

Vehicles

Much much much better sound

More players (especially on pc version, but I enjoy the ps3 one a lot as well)

More realistic gun fire/recoil

yworry69

1st one is good, but graphics is soso. It has too much contrast, so it's either too dark or too bright in BFBC2,and detail is washed out on those part. We call it poor dynamic range in photography. Beside that, frame rate is soslow comparing to mw2's 60 fps. It also has more grpahics glitches than MW2. I perfer killstreak over vehicle, and I have seen ppl in the same team fighting each other for vehicle. or they just wait in vehicle spam area. player #, well BFBC2 has dedicated server, so it surly has much better connection than mw2 which makes it capable to handle more players. However, I enjoy more on a 10-12 ppl game than 20+p games.

Guns, well BFBC2 do have more realistic gun machenics, but MW2 has more realistic gun impact. It takes more shots to kill someone in BFBC2. A lot of ppl perfer realistic gun impact.

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#19 yworry69
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[QUOTE="yworry69"Guns, well BFBC2 do have more realistic gun machenics, but MW2 has more realistic gun impact. It takes more shots to kill someone in BFBC2. A lot of ppl perfer realistic gun impact.oajlu

you can play hardcore in bc2 for that which is not the same as hardcore for mw2 obviously

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#20 Khadaj32
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So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

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#21 Keir21
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MW2 2 is a 9/10 BC2 is a 7/10 Reason why? IN SHORT: It's one step forward and two back in a sequel that seems almost ashamed of its own unique features. PROS: Excellent core action with solid gunplay, great destruction effects and lots of vehicles and multiplayer modes. CONS: Lacklustre single player that makes poor use of key features - as do some multiplayer modes. Quite buggy.
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#22 juden41
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Well, I actually like Bad Company 2 better because I think it is a much better game. I really don't like Modern Warfare 2 (or any Call of Duty) at all, due to the game itself.
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#23 supa_badman
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Yeah, but it's not going to stop, watchya going to do?

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#24 Sloan360
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Yeah it is getting very old. But at the end of the day i know MW2 has a stronger online community and will be around a lot longer and more popular then BC2. So my opinion to side with the better game was well placed.

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#25 yworry69
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Stronger as in more people right? Cuz it certainly isn't stronger in intelligence and team co-ordination. Bad company 2 just fosters that really well.

Of course there will always be people playing mw2, but bc2 is in no danger of dying for a long long time

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#26 kweeni
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i don't hate MW2, it's a great game. had a lot of fun playing split screen at a friends house :P it's just that BC2 is a lot more fun, but that's just my opinion ofcourse :P
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#27 ExoticAnimal
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Only having played the BFBC2 beta, I can honestly say that I had more fun with that than I ever did with MW2. MW2 just wasn't fun at all. Every time I played it, it felt like a chore to play. It was not the same case when I played cod4 and still play from time to time.
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#28 Ninja_Zombie83
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I agree, it is getting old....BFBC2 is obvoiusly better than MW2 to the point its common knowledge. But...wucha gonna do right?
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#29 1bigsmoke55
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It's Cliched to death.

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#30 Vari3ty
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It's cool to hate popular things online.

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#31 PoisoN_Facecam0
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[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]I have a 2.0 kill death ratio and 36k kills on MW2... its multiplayer is shallow and unrefined compared to BFBC2 imo.. its the FPS for casuals.. M0wen10

See! Thats what the guy who created this topic means, you come aross as arrogant thinking you know best. If you don't like MW2 multiplayer, great for you. Millions like it, so no one is going to miss you :roll:

wow, way to fail reading.. i said "in my opinion" its personal taste buddy, millions of people all loved Fallout 3, GTAIV and Resident Evil 5 which i all hated... and no one i care about on MW2 will miss me as most of my friends all made the jump to BFBC2 as well.. they can go ahead and like it i just think its to easy to do good in the game... but thats just IN MY OPINION!
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[QUOTE="M0wen10"]

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]I have a 2.0 kill death ratio and 36k kills on MW2... its multiplayer is shallow and unrefined compared to BFBC2 imo.. its the FPS for casuals.. PoisoN_Facecam0

See! Thats what the guy who created this topic means, you come aross as arrogant thinking you know best. If you don't like MW2 multiplayer, great for you. Millions like it, so no one is going to miss you :roll:

wow, way to fail reading.. i said "in my opinion" its personal taste buddy, millions of people all loved Fallout 3, GTAIV and Resident Evil 5 which i all hated... and no one i care about on MW2 will miss me as most of my friends all made the jump to BFBC2 as well.. they can go ahead and like it i just think its to easy to do good in the game... but thats just IN MY OPINION!

Why do people constatnly ride MW2 like a horse?

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#33 PoisoN_Facecam0
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[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"][QUOTE="M0wen10"]

See! Thats what the guy who created this topic means, you come aross as arrogant thinking you know best. If you don't like MW2 multiplayer, great for you. Millions like it, so no one is going to miss you :roll:

1bigsmoke55

wow, way to fail reading.. i said "in my opinion" its personal taste buddy, millions of people all loved Fallout 3, GTAIV and Resident Evil 5 which i all hated... and no one i care about on MW2 will miss me as most of my friends all made the jump to BFBC2 as well.. they can go ahead and like it i just think its to easy to do good in the game... but thats just IN MY OPINION!

Why do people constatnly ride MW2 like a horse?

the same reason why bullies beat up geeks... its easy and it usually gets a rise out of people ;)
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[QUOTE="1bigsmoke55"]

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"] wow, way to fail reading.. i said "in my opinion" its personal taste buddy, millions of people all loved Fallout 3, GTAIV and Resident Evil 5 which i all hated... and no one i care about on MW2 will miss me as most of my friends all made the jump to BFBC2 as well.. they can go ahead and like it i just think its to easy to do good in the game... but thats just IN MY OPINION! PoisoN_Facecam0

Why do people constatnly ride MW2 like a horse?

the same reason why bullies beat up geeks... its easy and it usually gets a rise out of people ;)

True. i used to think MW2 was great till i played BC2 and CoD4 again.

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#35 Fantasticus
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is there free for all in BC2??
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#36 munkeypoo45
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I loved COD4 and played it for hundreds of hours

They wrecked MW2 by making it too noob friendly, not to mention the game is glitchy and laggy like hell

thelastguy

i feel the same way. i played cod4 for hundreds of hours too but i cant into MW2 for some reason.

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#37 Eazy1891
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Yeah it is getting very old. But at the end of the day i know MW2 has a stronger online community and will be around a lot longer and more popular then BC2. So my opinion to side with the better game was well placed.

Sloan360
thats actually one of the reasons i dont like the game due to the other people who have it....in all honesty i think some people dont have their own opinions anymore and they just do what everyone else is doing and what everyone else likes they must like....theres probably at least a million other people who bought this games for the same reason you did and honestly that doesnt make any game better......all someone has to do is get some friends together and start hyping a different game and slowly but surely that game will get sales....and people playing it
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#39 hanslacher54
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I hate how much MW2 sells when it's so average.

It's even more casual than Madden...

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#40 anime_gamer007
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I loved COD4 and played it for hundreds of hours

They wrecked MW2 by making it too noob friendly, not to mention the game is glitchy and laggy like hell

thelastguy
THANK YOU! High five. This exactly my thoughts. I can see why so many people love MW2, it's easy to play and it rewards every 2 seconds with xp. But I prefer a real reward like taking out a Hind D with a simple RPG or sneaking up on that guy on the UAV station. BC2 gives me so much satisfaction in the gameplay the xp bonuses and what not are just the icing on the cake. Sure MW2 offers a ton of unlocks and tons of customization but that all falls in comparison to the satisfaction and sense of accomplishment I get out of BC2. Battlefield is the only series that has made me 100% a team player and there's a reason for that.
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#41 Love_Lord
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So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

WR_Platinum

Yeah totally agree, MW2 takes one person with luck to run in and carry a team to a win, while BC2, people like that will be raped by an entire team working together and doing the game PROPERLY.

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#42 Sloan360
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[QUOTE="Sloan360"]

Yeah it is getting very old. But at the end of the day i know MW2 has a stronger online community and will be around a lot longer and more popular then BC2. So my opinion to side with the better game was well placed.

Eazy1891

thats actually one of the reasons i dont like the game due to the other people who have it....in all honesty i think some people dont have their own opinions anymore and they just do what everyone else is doing and what everyone else likes they must like....theres probably at least a million other people who bought this games for the same reason you did and honestly that doesnt make any game better......all someone has to do is get some friends together and start hyping a different game and slowly but surely that game will get sales....and people playing it

I bought this game because i loved the first MW. Millions of people bought this game because of how good MW was. No having lots of people doesn't technically make a game good, but it does in MW2. People play MW2 because it still is the best FPS online experience out there. Just because the majority of these fourms say otherwise doesn't make it true either. My opinion is my own, and i truly believe MW2 is the best online shooter out there, not because this game has the most players, but because it's fun.

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#43 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

Love_Lord

Yeah totally agree, MW2 takes one person with luck to run in and carry a team to a win, while BC2, people like that will be raped by an entire team working together and doing the game PROPERLY.

LOL.

Seriously, when does a team online EVER work together?

If that were true, the 10vs10 on FIFA would've been the most glorious thing ever to grace online play.

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#44 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="1bigsmoke55"]

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"] wow, way to fail reading.. i said "in my opinion" its personal taste buddy, millions of people all loved Fallout 3, GTAIV and Resident Evil 5 which i all hated... and no one i care about on MW2 will miss me as most of my friends all made the jump to BFBC2 as well.. they can go ahead and like it i just think its to easy to do good in the game... but thats just IN MY OPINION! PoisoN_Facecam0

Why do people constatnly ride MW2 like a horse?

the same reason why bullies beat up geeks... its easy and it usually gets a rise out of people ;)

Yes, hence the reason why there's a whole argument between the 2 games from both sides. >_>
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#45 tonyf55
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I personally didn't buy either. One, because there is too many other fantastic games coming out this year to waste my time with pure shooters; and two, Medal of Honor comes out in September, that was one series I always enjoyed and would love to see it bring Modern War to life.

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#46 Khadaj32
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Yeah it is getting very old. But at the end of the day i know MW2 has a stronger online community and will be around a lot longer and more popular then BC2. So my opinion to side with the better game was well placed.

Sloan360

I lol'd.

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#47 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="Love_Lord"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

supa_badman

Yeah totally agree, MW2 takes one person with luck to run in and carry a team to a win, while BC2, people like that will be raped by an entire team working together and doing the game PROPERLY.

LOL.

Seriously, when does a team online EVER work together?

If that were true, the 10vs10 on FIFA would've been the most glorious thing ever to grace online play.

Actually, the game makes you work together. It isn't like MW2 where you just run around aimlessly and go commando. And it isn't like MAG where you MUST instigate and work together perfectly to get the most enjoyment from the game. The way the maps are structured, the way the mechanics are, the rewards gained from working together pretty much make everyone play as a team. For example, you get a lot of points if you're a good Medic, even more if you heal/revive your own squad. Same goes with ammo kits for the Assault kit, lot of points for helping people out, even more if they are in your squad. BFBC2 makes you crave those points, and in turn you play the best you can, as does the rest of the team.

I have never seen such a fantastic multiplayer that doesn't force teamwork, doesn'tforsake teamwork, but inspires teamwork.

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#48 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

[QUOTE="Love_Lord"]

Yeah totally agree, MW2 takes one person with luck to run in and carry a team to a win, while BC2, people like that will be raped by an entire team working together and doing the game PROPERLY.

Khadaj32

LOL.

Seriously, when does a team online EVER work together?

If that were true, the 10vs10 on FIFA would've been the most glorious thing ever to grace online play.

Actually, the game makes you work together. It isn't like MW2 where you just run around aimlessly and go commando. And it isn't like MAG where you MUST instigate and work together perfectly to get the most enjoyment from the game. The way the maps are structured, the way the mechanics are, the rewards gained from working together pretty much make everyone play as a team. For example, you get a lot of points if you're a good Medic, even more if you heal/revive your own squad. Same goes with ammo kits for the Assault kit, lot of points for helping people out, even more if they are in your squad. BFBC2 makes you crave those points, and in turn you play the best you can, as does the rest of the team.

I have never seen such a fantastic multiplayer that doesn't force teamwork, doesn'tforsake teamwork, but inspires teamwork.

So when people play for #1 they indirectly help others. Riiiight. Even in KZ2 where there was the whole 'class' thing, it was complete anarchy, even though there was different classes for different things. I'll be honest with you, the only reason most people were medics in KZ2 was because of the medpack you can throw yourself so you can have a longer run. Engineers built turrets and crates probably because a) They needed it there or b) To get points. The 'points' to help the team isn't as much as help, but more of a way to level up quicker.
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#49 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"]LOL.

Seriously, when does a team online EVER work together?

If that were true, the 10vs10 on FIFA would've been the most glorious thing ever to grace online play.

supa_badman

Actually, the game makes you work together. It isn't like MW2 where you just run around aimlessly and go commando. And it isn't like MAG where you MUST instigate and work together perfectly to get the most enjoyment from the game. The way the maps are structured, the way the mechanics are, the rewards gained from working together pretty much make everyone play as a team. For example, you get a lot of points if you're a good Medic, even more if you heal/revive your own squad. Same goes with ammo kits for the Assault kit, lot of points for helping people out, even more if they are in your squad. BFBC2 makes you crave those points, and in turn you play the best you can, as does the rest of the team.

I have never seen such a fantastic multiplayer that doesn't force teamwork, doesn'tforsake teamwork, but inspires teamwork.

So when people play for #1 they indirectly help others. Riiiight. Even in KZ2 where there was the whole 'class' thing, it was complete anarchy, even though there was different classes for different things. I'll be honest with you, the only reason most people were medics in KZ2 was because of the medpack you can throw yourself so you can have a longer run. Engineers built turrets and crates probably because a) They needed it there or b) To get points. The 'points' to help the team isn't as much as help, but more of a way to level up quicker.

So? Does it matter what the intent is? Who gives a damn if a Medic teammate is helping you because he wants to or not? He wants his points, I don't want to die. Done deal. You're talking about actual intent, an interest in the other players. I don't really give a damn about the other players (except for the friends list, of course) just as they could care less about me. Such is the way of every online multiplayer ever conceived. But that doesn't matter; everyone tries to be the best, and as a result, help eachother. Have you actually played BFBC2, or are you just formulating your own opinion based on others'? Cause it sounds like you really don't know what you're talking about.

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#50 johnpav88
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

Actually, the game makes you work together. It isn't like MW2 where you just run around aimlessly and go commando. And it isn't like MAG where you MUST instigate and work together perfectly to get the most enjoyment from the game. The way the maps are structured, the way the mechanics are, the rewards gained from working together pretty much make everyone play as a team. For example, you get a lot of points if you're a good Medic, even more if you heal/revive your own squad. Same goes with ammo kits for the Assault kit, lot of points for helping people out, even more if they are in your squad. BFBC2 makes you crave those points, and in turn you play the best you can, as does the rest of the team.

I have never seen such a fantastic multiplayer that doesn't force teamwork, doesn'tforsake teamwork, but inspires teamwork.

Khadaj32

So when people play for #1 they indirectly help others. Riiiight. Even in KZ2 where there was the whole 'class' thing, it was complete anarchy, even though there was different classes for different things. I'll be honest with you, the only reason most people were medics in KZ2 was because of the medpack you can throw yourself so you can have a longer run. Engineers built turrets and crates probably because a) They needed it there or b) To get points. The 'points' to help the team isn't as much as help, but more of a way to level up quicker.

So? Does it matter what the intent is? Who gives a damn if a Medic teammate is helping you because he wants to or not? He wants his points, I don't want to die. Done deal. You're talking about actual intent, an interest in the other players. I don't really give a damn about the other players (except for the friends list, of course) just as they could care less about me. Such is the way of every online multiplayer ever conceived. But that doesn't matter; everyone tries to be the best, and as a result, help eachother. Have you actually played BFBC2, or are you just formulating your own opinion based on others'? Cause it sounds like you really don't know what you're talking about.

i love how because you dont agree with his opinion he "doesnt know what hes talking about".MAG had all this same stuff with the FRAGO points but people will still do whatever it takes to be the guy at the top of the list. even in this new awesome game BFBC2. i dont care what anyone says no game promotes true tactical team-work gameplay. now i played the beta for it and i just plan didnt like it but of course thats my opinion. to slow i walked around for minutes just to get to some action and then some guy drives by on a turrent and blows me away. lots of skill needed there for that kill. once people get used to it they will discover cheap and easy ways to kill others. give it awhile and we hear people complaning about that as well soon enough. like they do about campers, noob tubers, and shut gunners in MW2 or guys in bunker turrets in MAG.