MW2 vs BFBC2 arguement is getting old.

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#51 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"] So when people play for #1 they indirectly help others. Riiiight. Even in KZ2 where there was the whole 'class' thing, it was complete anarchy, even though there was different classes for different things. I'll be honest with you, the only reason most people were medics in KZ2 was because of the medpack you can throw yourself so you can have a longer run. Engineers built turrets and crates probably because a) They needed it there or b) To get points. The 'points' to help the team isn't as much as help, but more of a way to level up quicker. johnpav88

So? Does it matter what the intent is? Who gives a damn if a Medic teammate is helping you because he wants to or not? He wants his points, I don't want to die. Done deal. You're talking about actual intent, an interest in the other players. I don't really give a damn about the other players (except for the friends list, of course) just as they could care less about me. Such is the way of every online multiplayer ever conceived. But that doesn't matter; everyone tries to be the best, and as a result, help eachother. Have you actually played BFBC2, or are you just formulating your own opinion based on others'? Cause it sounds like you really don't know what you're talking about.

i love how because you dont agree with his opinion he "doesnt know what hes talking about".MAG had all this same stuff with the FRAGO points but people will still do whatever it takes to be the guy at the top of the list. even in this new awesome game BFBC2. i dont care what anyone says no game promotes true tactical team-work gameplay. now i played the beta for it and i just plan didnt like it but of course thats my opinion. to slow i walked around for minutes just to get to some action and then some guy drives by on a turrent and blows me away. lots skill needed there for that kill. once people get used to it they will discover cheap and easy ways to kill otehrs. give it awhile and we hear people complaning about that as well soon enough.

I love how because he's never even played BFBC2 his "opinion" can be considered valid.

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#52 johnpav88
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[QUOTE="johnpav88"]

[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

So? Does it matter what the intent is? Who gives a damn if a Medic teammate is helping you because he wants to or not? He wants his points, I don't want to die. Done deal. You're talking about actual intent, an interest in the other players. I don't really give a damn about the other players (except for the friends list, of course) just as they could care less about me. Such is the way of every online multiplayer ever conceived. But that doesn't matter; everyone tries to be the best, and as a result, help eachother. Have you actually played BFBC2, or are you just formulating your own opinion based on others'? Cause it sounds like you really don't know what you're talking about.

Khadaj32

i love how because you dont agree with his opinion he "doesnt know what hes talking about".MAG had all this same stuff with the FRAGO points but people will still do whatever it takes to be the guy at the top of the list. even in this new awesome game BFBC2. i dont care what anyone says no game promotes true tactical team-work gameplay. now i played the beta for it and i just plan didnt like it but of course thats my opinion. to slow i walked around for minutes just to get to some action and then some guy drives by on a turrent and blows me away. lots skill needed there for that kill. once people get used to it they will discover cheap and easy ways to kill otehrs. give it awhile and we hear people complaning about that as well soon enough.

I love how because he's never even played BFBC2 his "opinion" can be considered valid.

didnt i just say i played the beta to the game? i know its not the game but its the same concept just prettied up

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#53 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="johnpav88"]i love how because you dont agree with his opinion he "doesnt know what hes talking about".MAG had all this same stuff with the FRAGO points but people will still do whatever it takes to be the guy at the top of the list. even in this new awesome game BFBC2. i dont care what anyone says no game promotes true tactical team-work gameplay. now i played the beta for it and i just plan didnt like it but of course thats my opinion. to slow i walked around for minutes just to get to some action and then some guy drives by on a turrent and blows me away. lots skill needed there for that kill. once people get used to it they will discover cheap and easy ways to kill otehrs. give it awhile and we hear people complaning about that as well soon enough.

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I love how because he's never even played BFBC2 his "opinion" can be considered valid.

didnt i just say i played the beta to the game? i know its not the game but its the same concept just prettied up

No, I didn't mean you. I meant the dude you referenced at the beginning of your other post.

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#54 johnpav88
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[QUOTE="johnpav88"]

[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

I love how because he's never even played BFBC2 his "opinion" can be considered valid.

Khadaj32

didnt i just say i played the beta to the game? i know its not the game but its the same concept just prettied up

No, I didn't mean you. I meant the dude you referenced at the beginning of your other post.

i dont remember him saying if he played it or not

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#55 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Khadaj32"] So when people play for #1 they indirectly help others. Riiiight. Even in KZ2 where there was the whole 'class' thing, it was complete anarchy, even though there was different classes for different things. I'll be honest with you, the only reason most people were medics in KZ2 was because of the medpack you can throw yourself so you can have a longer run. Engineers built turrets and crates probably because a) They needed it there or b) To get points. The 'points' to help the team isn't as much as help, but more of a way to level up quicker. Khadaj32

So? Does it matter what the intent is? Who gives a damn if a Medic teammate is helping you because he wants to or not? He wants his points, I don't want to die. Done deal. You're talking about actual intent, an interest in the other players. I don't really give a damn about the other players (except for the friends list, of course) just as they could care less about me. Such is the way of every online multiplayer ever conceived. But that doesn't matter; everyone tries to be the best, and as a result, help eachother. Have you actually played BFBC2, or are you just formulating your own opinion based on others'? Cause it sounds like you really don't know what you're talking about.

So then you admit it... There's no such thing as teamwork? >_> Just circumstances that make it LOOK like teamwork?

I love how because he's never even played BFBC2 his "opinion" can be considered valid.

Khadaj32

Uhm... There ARE other games that try to influence teamwork, you know that right?

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#56 yworry69
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if people can't refute my soul crushing mw2 vs bc2 analysis on the first page, we should just lock this bad boy up right now.

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#57 LightR
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if people can't refute my soul crushing mw2 vs bc2 analysis on the first page, we should just lock this bad boy up right now.

Or maybe nobody cares about your opinion. Just a thought.
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#58 yworry69
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[QUOTE="LightR"][QUOTE="yworry69"]

if people can't refute my soul crushing mw2 vs bc2 analysis on the first page, we should just lock this bad boy up right now.

Or maybe nobody cares about your opinion. Just a thought.

:( and here I thought I made good points
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#59 tirralirra
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Ok, why MW2 is a good game, i don't understand how anyone can play the MP for much more than an hour. Killing campers is funny, but not fun.
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#60 dogfather76
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I have played both MW2 and BFBC 2 on the 360 and would take MAG over both of them. It's completely underrated in my opinion.

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#61 yworry69
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Why? I don't know much about mag, could you elaborate?

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#62 chevaldefer
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Yeah they are both great game BUT the BEST thing about MW2 ======> WE CAN TURN PEOPLE MIC OFF in the option while in BFBC2 I have to listen kids whining and yapping. If their is a way to turn that off please tell me. thx.

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#63 onlinerat
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All of that "real war-zone" feel is just smoke and mirrors .
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#64 volume_three
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I own both though am much better at MW2 than I am BC2 and can say without a shadow of doubt that BC2 is the superior product :P

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#65 Venom_Raptor
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I agree with you man, both aregreat games that have their fair share of good points and bad points :)

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#66 gugler990
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BC2 is better imo but to lazy to write maybe later

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#67 Elian2530
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So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

You're being hypocritical. You're asking the TC for proof.. yet you don't even own BFBC2.. and therefore you cannot even support your claim. Your statement isn't even an opinion because you haven't even played the game.. and then you go on talking about it like it's a fact. Wow.
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You shouldnt judge BC2 only based on the beta, really. Beta was full of MW2 players who just tried to play it as MW2. And thats not how it works. Full game is much better when it comes to teamwork as there arent those mw2 players. Not very often at least. I've been playing BC2 for a long time now. I can honestly sau that people really tend to cooperate and work as a team. No, it doesnt work 100 per cent but its very good as it is. Of course some people wll just try to camp as well. But the point is the game isnt about getting kills. You dont even see how many kils you got until the end of a match. Teamwork in BC2 really works. And i also want to say that i played mw2 for few months as well and theres no teamwork at all. The closest thing to teamwork were two guys shooting at one enemy and then arguing who deserved the kill more. Thats for my opinion. Im only talking about the teamwork aspect and nothing else. That would require much more text for me to write and i dont feel like it now.
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#69 WR_Platinum
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

So you have determined that everyone who is bashing on MW2 sucks in MW2? Do you have the proof for that? Videos? Screenshots?


yeah..... ok.... lol


I don't own BC2, but I can tell you right now that it surpasses MW2's mp in many ways you may not agree. They are both FPSs of course, but BC2 is much more tactical and more realistic that does not have that arcady, turbo soldier action that MW2 has. Personally I don't like the turbo soldier type of action cause it looks ridiculous after lookin at others playing online. BC2 looks very polished compared to MW2, as you can see IW hasn't really done a great job releasing the game. It was only a matter of time when people found many glitches within the game (Prestige 10 anyone?), plus the horrible p2p connection, NO dedicated servers for *BLEEP* sake!

In the end though it is about personal taste, you may like the arcady action of MW2, while I like a more realistic tactical shooter like BC2 or KZ2.

Elian2530

You're being hypocritical. You're asking the TC for proof.. yet you don't even own BFBC2.. and therefore you cannot even support your claim. Your statement isn't even an opinion because you haven't even played the game.. and then you go on talking about it like it's a fact. Wow.

Even though I don't own it, that does not mean I haven't played it. Before making conclusions, you should think first.

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#70 StealthMonkey4
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I have a 2.0 kill death ratio and 36k kills on MW2... its multiplayer is shallow and unrefined compared to BFBC2 imo.. its the FPS for casuals.. PoisoN_Facecam0

36,000 kills? Sounds you like reallyhate MW2...

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#71 taplok
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Both are great games, it depends on peoples' preference... very fast-paced run and gun action with nice graphicsor not very fast but required more tactical gameplay and bigger maps...

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#72 -Shooter-
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Both games are great. However, MW2 does annoy me sometimes (like when I ragequit after some dude teleports across the room and knifes me).. so all I do is just switch to BFBC2

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#73 jerkface96
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LOL ARE YOU KIDDING ME? REALLY?

Ive had a few friends that had about a 2.5 KDR, and they hated the game and now theyve moved over to BFBC2, I also dont really like game either and I have a 1.12 KDR.

Im tired of the cheap perks, especially commando and anything super solderish.

Im tired of all the glitchers.

All the Glitchers , that Glitch just to get Killstreaks.

I dont like all the auto aim, in everything from Knifes to Guns

I dont like the weightlessness to the person when you move.

and 15$ for a map pack really pushed me over the edge.

The only things that are similar in BFBC2 and MW2 that I really hate, is that both games have over powered shotguns.

But I find BFBC2 to be the better game, 9/10 If I die its because I die fair an square, A guy saw me first or had better aim so he killed me.

Not Like the BS in MW2 that is Commando, Where I can put 5 bullets in a guys chest and he still manages to stab me. Or that of Pain Killer.

They made MW2 way too friendly, all the auto aim, all the perks, and all the kill and death streaks.

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#74 GeneralHawx
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u know most people stop bashing MW2 on this site until u brought it up again
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#75 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]I have a 2.0 kill death ratio and 36k kills on MW2... its multiplayer is shallow and unrefined compared to BFBC2 imo.. its the FPS for casuals.. M0wen10

See! Thats what the guy who created this topic means, you come aross as arrogant thinking you know best. If you don't like MW2 multiplayer, great for you. Millions like it, so no one is going to miss you :roll:

WTH are you talking about, TC Stated the people who talk trash on MW2 are the ones who suck. get it right.
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#76 ExoticAnimal
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LOL ARE YOU KIDDING ME? REALLY?

Ive had a few friends that had about a 2.5 KDR, and they hated the game and now theyve moved over to BFBC2, I also dont really like game either and I have a 1.12 KDR.

Im tired of the cheap perks, especially commando and anything super solderish.

Im tired of all the glitchers.

All the Glitchers , that Glitch just to get Killstreaks.

I dont like all the auto aim, in everything from Knifes to Guns

I dont like the weightlessness to the person when you move.

and 15$ for a map pack really pushed me over the edge.

The only things that are similar in BFBC2 and MW2 that I really hate, is that both games have over powered shotguns.

But I find BFBC2 to be the better game, 9/10 If I die its because I die fair an square, A guy saw me first or had better aim so he killed me.

Not Like the BS in MW2 that is Commando, Where I can put 5 bullets in a guys chest and he still manages to stab me. Or that of Pain Killer.

They made MW2 way too friendly, all the auto aim, all the perks, and all the kill and death streaks.

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About time you realized this. Too bad I did that way back in January. :P
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#77 nelson415
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Can't we just all get along :D I own both and to each his own

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#78 LightR
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Both games are great. However, MW2 does annoy me sometimes (like when I ragequit after some dude teleports across the room and knifes me).. so all I do is just switch to BFBC2

-Shooter-
BFBC2 I find is just as annoying. I've ragequit a bunch of times from it for various reason. BFBC2 has its faults and so does MW2.