my theory on the MGS4 trailer. WHATS YOURS?

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#1 amcallister902
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  • the person standing behind Liquid Snake is Otacon ( i think i saw glasses and a trenchcoat)
  • the person helping out Meryl is... Big Boss. (sounds like David Hayter when he says " commander!? "- would also explain why davids voice is soooo different for old snake.
  • i don't know who is in the helicopter
  • Vamp is also wearing a suit like Raiden ( look when he stabs Vamp- the same gas comes out of Vamp as Raiden.)

whats your thoughts?

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#2 The_Tombo
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naomi in the plane, not big boss in the suit I'm thinking either a new character or somebody we forgot about a long time ago..Areal suprise.

Vamp is just imnmortal you know duh its so normal!! :P

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#3 Jakshot
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No the person standing behing Liquid is Naomi.If you have the trailer on playstation 3 with the good quality,you can see it's her.Because of her hair and the coat.That guy that yelled"commander?!" has white hair,if you freeze the trailer real quickly when you see his shades real close,you can see a piece of white hair outside.Either it could be Raiden in disguise(I highly doubt it) or Olga's son seeing how the game takes place in the future and he also could be in the military because of his mom and Olga has white hair...or it could be that Raiden and Ros had a son...who knows?Maybe they had a son before Raiden went all cyborg ninja on us.You gotta see the trailer on ps3 in the playstation store to see all the things I just told you all about.I think that guy in the trailer could be supposedly Raiden's son(not that I know)because he and Raiden have the same hair color and same type of long hair.Actor Richard Steven Horvitz(the guy who does invader Zim's voice and Psychonauts Raz's voice) is voicing a character in the game maybe it could be the guy with the shades.

sources:wikipedia

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#4 The_Tombo
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No the person standing behing Liquid is Naomi.If you have the trailer on playstation 3 with the good quality,you can see it's her.Because of her hair and the coat.That guy that yelled"commander?!" has white hair,if you freeze the trailer real quickly when you see his shades real close,you can see a piece of white hair outside.Either it could be Raiden in disguise(I highly doubt it) or Olga's son seeing how the game takes place in the future and he also could be in the military because of his mom and Olga has white hair...or it could be that Raiden and Ros had a son...who knows?Maybe they had a son before Raiden went all cyborg ninja on us.You gotta see the trailer on ps3 in the playstation store to see all the things I just told you all about.I think that guy in the trailer could be supposedly Raiden's son(not that I know)because he and Raiden have the same hair color and same type of long hair.Actor Richard Steven Horvitz(the guy who does invader Zim's voice and Psychonauts Raz's voice) is voicing a character in the game maybe it could be the guy with the shades.

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doubt it would be either sons... seeming as the game takes place 5 years after mgs2 I believe the sons would have a slightly less build than that at 5- years.

9 years ago since injected foxdie. mgs2 4 years after shadow moses 9-4 =5 years after part 2.

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#5 d_ano
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i think snake was that guy in the black
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#6 Tlahui
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Otacon is in the Chopper, and it cant be olga or raidens son in the black suit, they are 5 years old.

Plus mohawk dodu is jhonny sasaki the 4th cuz they called him jonathan.

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#7 poppinNs41
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wat the hell are ya talking about ..;..........get a life

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#8 Denji
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i think snake was that guy in the blackd_ano

No cause Snake was there at the same time he was. That's impossible. Raiden is in his cyborg suit, so that's not it either.

It's not Olga's or Rose's child either, cause it's 9 years after Shadow Moses

So what I'm thinking is, he could be a Patriot spy (cause it can't be anybody we presently know of). Considering he wasn't affected by what was going on. Whatever that sound was made the nano machines go haywire and made people go insane. Even Snake was effected by it, but he was trying to fight it.

That was Naomi Hunter on that chopper. She could've been the one that "activated it". Otacon would NEVER side with Liquid. There's not an ounce of evil in his body, and I don't think Liquid could stand him personally. Remember, Otacon was dupped at Shadow Moses for making Rex, he's not a violent guy.

Oh yeah. Vamp doesn't have a suit like Raiden's. I mean if you LOOK you can obviously see that Vamp is not wearing much aside from gear and his pants. It's cause the blade went hot. Remember, the "ninjas" in the series use blades that are electricly charged.It's obviously connected to Raiden's suit and Raiden wanted it to heat up like that.

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#9 SolidSnake2020
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It is raiden listen to the voice when he says comander and the hair.

And it is not olga's or raiden son ( we don't know if raiden had a boyor a girl ), And children don't grow fast, it doesn't take 20 years from mgs2 and prove is Naomi saying9 years from shadow moses which proves the year between mgs2 and 4 is not long.

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#10 Thomas-Crown
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The masked man helping out Meryl could be Gray Fox. I know his dead and if it is, Kojima have allot of explaining to do but with Kojima, you can't be too sure.

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#11 Denji
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It is raiden listen to the voice when he says comander and the hair.

And it is not olga's or raiden son ( we don't know if raiden had a boyor a girl ), And children don't grow fast, it doesn't take 20 years from mgs2 and prove is Naomi saying9 years from shadow moses which proves the year between mgs2 and 4 is not long.

SolidSnake2020

It's not Raiden. It's not his voice.

And it's NOT Gray Fox. Remember, Gray Fox was CRUSHED by Rex. You can't come back from that.

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#12 Thomas-Crown
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake2020"]

It is raiden listen to the voice when he says comander and the hair.

And it is not olga's or raiden son ( we don't know if raiden had a boyor a girl ), And children don't grow fast, it doesn't take 20 years from mgs2 and prove is Naomi saying9 years from shadow moses which proves the year between mgs2 and 4 is not long.

Denji

It's not Raiden

And it's NOT Gray Fox. Remember, Gray Fox was CRUSHED by Rex. You can't come back from that.

Relax...they areonly theories. What's yours, then?

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#13 ShadowXaz
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Otacon is in the Chopper, and it cant be olga or raidens son in the black suit, they are 5 years old.

Plus mohawk dodu is jhonny sasaki the 4th cuz they called him jonathan.

Tlahui

because..you know...theres only 1 person in the world with the name jonathan

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#14 kobutops
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is raiden a cyborg like his whole body is cyborg and his only human parts are his head and his spine? cause i heard that he only has his head and spine left and the rest is cyborg
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#15 Thomas-Crown
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is raiden a cyborg like his whole body is cyborg and his only human parts are his head and his spine? cause i heard that he only has his head and spine left and the rest is cyborgkobutops

That's whatI heard, too. Something really nasty must of happened to him: I thinking, Rose caught Raiden cheating on her :P.

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#16 Denji
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[QUOTE="Denji"][QUOTE="SolidSnake2020"]

It is raiden listen to the voice when he says comander and the hair.

And it is not olga's or raiden son ( we don't know if raiden had a boyor a girl ), And children don't grow fast, it doesn't take 20 years from mgs2 and prove is Naomi saying9 years from shadow moses which proves the year between mgs2 and 4 is not long.

Thomas-Crown

It's not Raiden

And it's NOT Gray Fox. Remember, Gray Fox was CRUSHED by Rex. You can't come back from that.

Relax...they areonly theories. What's yours, then?

I am relaxed lol

But in my previous post, I'm guessing it could be a Patriot spy, seeing's how he wasn't affected by that sound. Or who knows, it could be a forgotten MG character or something from MG1 or MG2.

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#17 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="kobutops"]is raiden a cyborg like his whole body is cyborg and his only human parts are his head and his spine? cause i heard that he only has his head and spine left and the rest is cyborgThomas-Crown

That's whatI heard, too. Something really nasty must of happened to him: I thinking, Rose caught Raiden cheating on her :P.

or maybe he just fell down the stairs or he fell down while running with scissors

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#18 The_Tombo
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[QUOTE="Tlahui"]

Otacon is in the Chopper, and it cant be olga or raidens son in the black suit, they are 5 years old.

Plus mohawk dodu is jhonny sasaki the 4th cuz they called him jonathan.

ShadowXaz

because..you know...theres only 1 person in the world with the name jonathan

pha that is the best and most enjoyable theorie I've heard so far.

Oh yeah its Hiiiiiighly unlikely that a soldier that has met meryl (and got his ass kicked by her) seeks her out and joins her cause but is ok if 120 year old burned to ashes old guys get back to life and crushed ninjas with exoskelotens walk around in a suit and call somebody commander.

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#19 bobaban
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[QUOTE="kobutops"]is raiden a cyborg like his whole body is cyborg and his only human parts are his head and his spine? cause i heard that he only has his head and spine left and the rest is cyborgThomas-Crown

That's whatI heard, too. Something really nasty must of happened to him: I thinking, Rose caught Raiden cheating on her :P.

Wow that would explain why he stabbed himself to get Vamp. I sorta like the idea of Raiden being whole tho, otherwise he's too much like Gray Fox.

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#20 The_Tombo
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[QUOTE="Thomas-Crown"]

[QUOTE="kobutops"]is raiden a cyborg like his whole body is cyborg and his only human parts are his head and his spine? cause i heard that he only has his head and spine left and the rest is cyborgbobaban

That's whatI heard, too. Something really nasty must of happened to him: I thinking, Rose caught Raiden cheating on her :P.

Wow that would explain why he stabbed himself to get Vamp. I sorta like the idea of Raiden being whole tho, otherwise he's too much like Gray Fox.

I just don't like the idea of raiden being just a head....no that can't be it ..at least never out of free will.

I don't think rose would've approved..

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#21 CyanX73
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Wow...you guys were able to infer all this from that little segment? My only opinion is I like sword fights and the trailer had a very cool one. Also Raiden is finally a character I wouldn't mind playing as unlike when he first showed up in MGS2 with his perfect locks...god that was horrible. Oh and let's not forget that stupid cartwheel thingy he did. Sorry...I went off on a ramble..where was I?
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#22 timmotool
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I am so confused =[
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#23 omgimonfire13
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I think..... it's.... bob.... the random person inthe NES game!

Not realy... I agree with the guy above me. The trailer was cool. end of story.

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#24 Thomas-Crown
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I am so confused =[timmotool

Sounds like you've just played MGS2. :P

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#25 Keasy4
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could be raiden be4 the cybor suit..
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#26 amcallister902
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[QUOTE="timmotool"] I am so confused =[Thomas-Crown

Sounds like youhaven't played MGS2. :P

fixed.

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#27 Thomas-Crown
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[QUOTE="Thomas-Crown"]

[QUOTE="timmotool"] I am so confused =[amcallister902

Sounds like you haven't played MGS2. :P

fixed.

LOL... Come on, the ending for MGS2 was very confusing at first.

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#28 The_Tombo
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[QUOTE="amcallister902"][QUOTE="Thomas-Crown"]

[QUOTE="timmotool"] I am so confused =[Thomas-Crown

Sounds like you haven't played MGS2. :P

fixed.

LOL... Come on, the ending for MGS2 was very confusing at first.

it still is :P