NinjaTheory talks HS demo

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-54976.aspx

Questions were answered by Daves [NT-DEVELOPER] Sound Engineer over at NinjaTheory Forums.

http://www.ninjatheory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1381&page=28



Question 1
There were a few problems with it that I would like to point out.
- First when you do super **** that abrupt music change is very odd. The volume increases and it just seems a little out of place. The music cut out every so often and there was even one part right at the beginning of the demo that the music was actually crackling.. it was strange.
Some bodies float as well.
But I had so much fun with the demo and I played through it about 12 times so far.

Answer 1
The volume increase was because they were 'super ****', however, I did nock them back a bit and do some balancing just a day or so ago.
The audio (music cutting out) glitches during the Ninja Sequence are also fixed.
FYI the demo was locked down ages ago, plenty of spit n polish has been done since then right.



Question 2
HELLO????
is blocking is automatic?

Answer 2
It's not completely automatic, in that you need to be in the right stance to block the incoming move (or evade for unblockables).
For a NinjaChallenge - try completing the demo ONLY using counter-attacks




Question 3
Please tell me the hard mode is available without having to play through once to unlock it?

Answer 3
HELL mode is available right off the bat, yes.
Bare in mind, that what you're playing now is a level early on in the story, you can scrape through it just by mashing buttons - try that in the later chapters and you'll get your (gorgeous) ass handed to you on a plate...




Question 4
Please tell me the hard mode is available without having to play through once to unlock it?

Answer 4
I heard today that we had to prove to Sony that the game could be completed in Hell Mode... a couple of ninja's managed it I believe. Seems the testers didn't! Hehe.




Question 5
also, does anyone else notice the brightness of the game fading in and out? I keep thinking its my TV, but i'm curious...

Answer 5
Naa, that'll be the sun going behind the clouds.




Noticable points

- the demo is an old build probably from last years demo since its exactally the same level
- the game has improved significantly from the demos build
- many glitches are fixed
- sound issuses have also been fixed

Ya their are some problems but i dont care what anyone else thinks im having so much fun with the demodynastyfan

the demo is soo short!! need more and i wish that the controlles were exactely like ninja gaiden like blocking and camera movement it is fixed i don't like fixed

[QUOTE="dynastyfan"]Ya their are some problems but i dont care what anyone else thinks im having so much fun with the demoTh3James

the demo is soo short!! need more and i wish that the controlles were exactely like ninja gaiden like blocking and camera movement it is fixed i don't like fixed

yea shortness is a problem but it does have replay value with all the different combos well atleast for me

[QUOTE="dynastyfan"]Ya their are some problems but i dont care what anyone else thinks im having so much fun with the demoTh3James

the demo is soo short!! need more and i wish that the controlles were exactely like ninja gaiden like blocking and camera movement it is fixed i don't like fixed

Meh, when I first played the NGS demo, I thought "I wish the controls were like God of War" because I kept moving the camera instead of dodging with the right analog stick. Same with R6V coming from Resistance, instead of switching weapons, I kept throwing grenades, blowing myself up. It's just a matter of getting used to the controls, it's not like any game has the right to claim to have the ultimate control scheme.

Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.MusashiSensi

agreed. the BlackSite 51 demo(xbox Live) is shorter than this.

IT'S A DEMO. IT'S NOT SUPPOSE TO GIVE YOU THE ENTIRE FIRST LEVEL OF THE GAME.

[QUOTE="dynastyfan"]Ya their are some problems but i dont care what anyone else thinks im having so much fun with the demoTh3James

the demo is soo short!! need more and i wish that the controlles were exactely like ninja gaiden like blocking and camera movement it is fixed i don't like fixed

ninja gaiden blocking is for weak sauce

at first I thought that Heavenly Sword is just a button masher but now I can finish the demo without hitting a single strike no the enemies..
secondly the areal moves and the special moves are awesome hoever my only little concern is that the framerate is solid I wish this game was 60 fps though ... it would have been aweosome

[QUOTE="dynastyfan"]Ya their are some problems but i dont care what anyone else thinks im having so much fun with the demoTh3James

the demo is soo short!! need more and i wish that the controlles were exactely like ninja gaiden like blocking and camera movement it is fixed i don't like fixed

ninja gaiden blocking is for weak sauce

at first I thought that Heavenly Sword is just a button masher but now I can finish the demo without hitting a single strike no the enemies..
secondly the areal moves and the special moves are awesome hoever my only little concern is that the framerate is solid I wish this game was 60 fps though ... it would have been aweosome

Ah no wonder it plays a little strange now and then its a years old build that explains it hehe. Well if that's the case then im probably buying it since the issues have been fixed in the final version!Lividrecca

it's a 4-5 month old build.

[QUOTE="Th3James"]

[QUOTE="dynastyfan"]Ya their are some problems but i dont care what anyone else thinks im having so much fun with the demoPS2Hawk

the demo is soo short!! need more and i wish that the controlles were exactely like ninja gaiden like blocking and camera movement it is fixed i don't like fixed

ninja gaiden blocking is for weak sauce

at first I thought that Heavenly Sword is just a button masher but now I can finish the demo without hitting a single strike no the enemies..
secondly the areal moves and the special moves are awesome hoever my only little concern is that the framerate is solid I wish this game was 60 fps though ... it would have been aweosome

You are right mate! The controls are just fine. When gamespot reviewed Rainbow 6 lasvegas and said that the default controls are bad because it's not the same as xbox360, I was like, FXXK this reviewer. Rainbow 6 ps3 version controls are just fine, if anyone's used to the xbox360 control, then he should buy the xbox360 game. It's on ps3, and it's how ps3 users use the buttons.

Poeple, seriously, if you hate the controls, get use to it. Cuz if the controls shift to your like, it's bound to displease other narrow minded people and they wish the control should be designed in yet another way.

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.eclipsed4utoo

agreed. the BlackSite 51 demo(xbox Live) is shorter than this.

IT'S A DEMO. IT'S NOT SUPPOSE TO GIVE YOU THE ENTIRE FIRST LEVEL OF THE GAME.

yea but some demo's give you more than one level.

Although, while i agree the demo is short, i don't care. a demo is a demo, and developers are gonna be different on how long, and what goes into their demo. as i said, some are short, some are longer than you would think a demo being.

I think the reason people are saying its too short is because in the few minutes they got to play the demo, they got hooked and now they want more HS. thats what a demo's suppose to do :)

[QUOTE="Lividrecca"]Ah no wonder it plays a little strange now and then its a years old build that explains it hehe. Well if that's the case then im probably buying it since the issues have been fixed in the final version!eclipsed4utoo

it's a 4-5 month old build.

Dev: "FYI the demo was locked down ages ago" and at the bottom of the page it says "the demo is an old build probably from last years demo since its exactally the same level"

Both indicate it's atleast older than 4-5 months...Or do you have any info I don't have?

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]

[QUOTE="Lividrecca"]Ah no wonder it plays a little strange now and then its a years old build that explains it hehe. Well if that's the case then im probably buying it since the issues have been fixed in the final version!Lividrecca

it's a 4-5 month old build.

Dev: "FYI the demo was locked down ages ago" and at the bottom of the page it says "the demo is an old build probably from last years demo since its exactally the same level"

Both indicate it's atleast older than 4-5 months...Or do you have any info I don't have?

it may be an earlier build, but it's the GDC demo....which was 4-5 months ago.

I don't understand, why release a demo that does not represent the final product?-hallo-

demos are meant to be served as teasers. give too much in the demo and you really have no reason to buy the final product.

on my 360, i have the Stuntman: Ignition demo, which has 3 variable levels. i feel like i really dont have to buy the full game since i can just play the demo whenever i feel like doing stunt races.

I don't understand, why release a demo that does not represent the final product?-hallo-

Because you can't have a final product until the product has gone GOLD. But by the time it has gone gold, the game will be out. Then you will have a demo after release, which will piss lots of people.

Demo is, demostration, of what the game is going to be like. Notice the word like here? It's not supposed to be THE final product.

If I was the responsible of realisng this demo I would fix everything and give it extra effort before relasing it because I know there are some players judge at the demo to be bad and not buying the full game where infact developers had imrpoved and worked on the full game to make it look better than the demoUGAH

sometimes, they don't have the time to create a new demo. although we should have gotten the E3 demo.

Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.MusashiSensi

hahayeah all these bunch of babies. im ashame of owning a ps3 because of these kind of people :P

lol hell mode.

i have a feeling that most of us would get raped on the first level

Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.MusashiSensi

Man! do you work for Ninja Theory? Every time someone voices there opinion about this game you shoot them down. When I saw your avatar i thought to myself "this guy actually looks pretty sound". How wrong was I. Look we all know the demo was great even with it's flaws. People just want to know if the problems theyexperienced are going to be in the final build. Hell, if we don'tgive the devs feedback then how are they going to make the game better.

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.areads

Man! do you work for Ninja Theory? Every time someone voices there opinion about this game you shoot them down. When I saw your avatar i thought to myself "this guy actually looks pretty sound". How wrong was I. Look we all know the demo was great even with it's flaws. People just want to know if the problems theyexperienced are going to be in the final build. Hell, if we don'tgive the devs feedback then how are they going to make the game better.

and that's done on Gamespot's forum? why not voice the opinions on the developer's own forum? people are just coming here to complain. if they wanted something done about it or wanted to know if it was cleared up, they would go to the developer's forum and ask the question.

im so happy its 16+!

that means i can finally get a cool good gorey fighting millions of people game.

woot getting it after lair

[QUOTE="areads"]

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.eclipsed4utoo

Man! do you work for Ninja Theory? Every time someone voices there opinion about this game you shoot them down. When I saw your avatar i thought to myself "this guy actually looks pretty sound". How wrong was I. Look we all know the demo was great even with it's flaws. People just want to know if the problems theyexperienced are going to be in the final build. Hell, if we don'tgive the devs feedback then how are they going to make the game better.

and that's done on Gamespot's forum? why not voice the opinions on the developer's own forum? people are just coming here to complain. if they wanted something done about it or wanted to know if it was cleared up, they would go to the developer's forum and ask the question.

sorry, didn't realize that gamespot forums are only supposed to be used for praise and system wars. I'll post my thoughts on their site now.

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="areads"]

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Boooooooooooooo huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The demo was to shot. Stop the whining! Be happy to have played it period.areads

Man! do you work for Ninja Theory? Every time someone voices there opinion about this game you shoot them down. When I saw your avatar i thought to myself "this guy actually looks pretty sound". How wrong was I. Look we all know the demo was great even with it's flaws. People just want to know if the problems theyexperienced are going to be in the final build. Hell, if we don'tgive the devs feedback then how are they going to make the game better.

and that's done on Gamespot's forum? why not voice the opinions on the developer's own forum? people are just coming here to complain. if they wanted something done about it or wanted to know if it was cleared up, they would go to the developer's forum and ask the question.

sorry, didn't realize that gamespot forums are only supposed to be used for praise and system wars. I'll post my thoughts on their site now.

I don't think this forum is here to complain about DEMOS not being perfect either.

lol hell mode.

i have a feeling that most of us would get raped on the first level

ski11buzz

Wtf? So what if the demo was short. That game was awesome. Also, since when are button mashers inferior, it's an action game.AsloI don't see much difference between this and ninja GS and dmc, other than weapons, difficulty, and on screen enemies (which hs has more of). This game is great even for a short, old demo. I likes the fast pace action, the slowdown while you get your enemies in the air to sustain a longer combo, the switch of the styles on the go, the counter (triangle button) is different all the time and looks and feels very cool, being able to throw objects and your enemies (which do not disappear when you kill them, and it's especially fun to throw a dead guy at an enemy so that they both fall of the cliff)

Bottom line the game plays good. And for all those who say that dmc or ngsare any different, here's a test. How do you docombos? By pressing a few buttons repeatedly (and for the most part, quickly). What does that equal to? Button mashing. can play calculated button mashing or hectic randompressing in all of those games? YES.Do you need much thoght when pressing these alreadyfew offensive buttons? No for the most part, especillay after a little practice after which everything becomes automatic.

i'm seldom criticalof games, especially when they're demos, maybe that's because I don't have a nit-picking stick up my a**

i hear a lot of ppl say that the game has page tearing..i didnt have it...

i did have a lil bit of slow framerate..happen only one though...

music changing all a sudden?? i cant remember..but if it did...it happened when doin counter attck..that have cutscenes..

OVERALL...loved the demo..short..but enuff 2 keep me staisfied for the release,,

I don't understand, why release a demo that does not represent the final product?-hallo-

In order to do that, we'd have to wait for the final product to be done before a demo would release...do you really want to do that?

[QUOTE="-hallo-"]I don't understand, why release a demo that does not represent the final product?henry4th

Because you can't have a final product until the product has gone GOLD. But by the time it has gone gold, the game will be out. Then you will have a demo after release, which will piss lots of people.

Demo is, demostration, of what the game is going to be like. Notice the word like here? It's not supposed to be THE final product.

This doesn't make sense. They said not too long ago that they were working on the demo and now they say it was done ages ago? The game wasn't ugly but some of the frame rate issues need to be fixed, e.g, the opening real time cutscene. CyanX73

i hear a lot of ppl say that the game has page tearing..i didnt have it...

i did have a lil bit of slow framerate..happen only one though...

music changing all a sudden?? i cant remember..but if it did...it happened when doin counter attck..that have cutscenes..

OVERALL...loved the demo..short..but enuff 2 keep me staisfied for the release,,

mamoru