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#51 valkyrao
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Since Gamespot put that stupid medals and removed the numbers they have review almost every game bad. They are writing short reviews and they are doing what they want with the final score because the don't show the specific scores in graphics, sound, etc so we can't calculate the overall score ourselves, come on gamespot, you are forcing us to leave this site and never come back

I have not played the game yet, but the learning curve is ONE of the aspects of the game that you have to score to make the overall score, stop bashing a game only because it was supposed to be perfect and it was only Very Good/Good, face it, its is not the ps3 masterpiece they promised, but it is still a "Must buy" for me

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#52 stefanlek
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i hype LAIR 2 to be AAA no doubt
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#53 stefanlek
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oh and wouldnt it be hard to control dragons in the real life, seems pretty realistic if you ask me
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#54 valkyrao
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oh and wouldnt it be hard to control dragons in the real life, seems pretty realistic if you ask mestefanlek

I completely agree with you, it is supposed to be the guy in the dragon the one it is controlled and dragons are living things not a Maserati that will respond perfectly to his demands, come on the game is trying to give you a new way of playing, a lot of wii games would be played better with a normal control but they are giving us something different and we don't score them like this

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#55 king23_
Member since 2007 • 18169 Posts
It looks like it should of got at least a 6.0.
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#57 Flamerdragon
Member since 2003 • 212 Posts

I willget Lair no matter what its rate!

If you want a game and you think you will like it you go and buy it!

You do not depend in some rates! rates are just for help

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#58 vegetattack15
Member since 2007 • 1686 Posts

My faith is actually shaken boys, and I have been one of the biggest fighters for the cause that is this game. I can't justify a $60 purchase on a 4.5 game without trying it first, so I will cancel my pre-order. I hope Heavenly Sword turns out better.

I always did say there was something suspicious about how Sony seemed to abandon the marketing for this game a few months ago, when the demo was SUPPOSED to come out.

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#59 Blitz_Nemesis
Member since 2005 • 8042 Posts

Ouch...never really cared for this game but still. I guess thats why we didnt see a demo, they wanted to keep its flopage a secret.

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#60 xboxdevil
Member since 2006 • 1170 Posts
Pretty much all the negative aspects of this game, from what I've read everywhere, revolves around the sixaxis control. Does anyone here think it is possible for Sony to download a firmware update to allow Lair players to use the analog sticks? I would think that would make this gorgeous, action-packed game with a great story about an 8.5 or even a 9.0. Or is that too far-fetched?
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#61 valkyrao
Member since 2004 • 34 Posts

Ouch...never really cared for this game but still. I guess thats why we didnt see a demo, they wanted to keep its flopage a secret.

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Its factor 5, they are experienced in this kind of games since they made all the star wars rogue squadron games for nintendo consoles and i don't think they would sacrifice its name to make some easy bucks making a crappy game in purpose if they knew it was this bad they would have fixed it before releasing it, perhaps all the staff got acostume to the sixaxis during development and they though it was easy to play the game using it, a patch is a must at this time, a lot of pc games are released with a lot of bugs and balance issues, now that consoles have wonderful online services they should implement them to fix some games problems

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#62 kambion313
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so lets see...lair 4.5 median scores about, heavenly sword about A 7, on the other hand bioshock 10s and halo will get 9s at least, mass effect will score 9s, i have a ps3 and a 360 (and wii) and i am so dissapointed, the only game i have for my ps3 is resistance, lame....
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#63 mazing87
Member since 2004 • 3881 Posts

I knew this game would flop...

All that hype about playing a game riding a dragon was never appealing to begin with. I got kind of tired of reading a thread about it.

I guess it's safe to say that Lair is dead!

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#64 judas-savior
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I really do not like the reviews Kevin writes, they just irritate me just the same with his blue dragon review.. as I can't agree nor disagree with this one just yet as I havn't played regardless I find his reviews to be poorly written and resemble nothing more than a bash fest if he decides he doesn't think its that good.. If I see a review from him any time in the future I plan to ignore it..

But then again its not about how good other people think its about us spending our money and how much entertainment we can get out of it.. so why I will not claim the game is great I will decide for myself because ive let myself get dictated to for too long over reviews when really its for me to decide not them. =)
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#65 Thrice_III
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so lets see...lair 4.5 median scores about, heavenly sword about A 7, on the other hand bioshock 10s and halo will get 9s at least, mass effect will score 9s, i have a ps3 and a 360 (and wii) and i am so dissapointed, the only game i have for my ps3 is resistance, lame....kambion313

Do you know what a median is? and where did you get your source. I just checked gamerankings for heavenly sword and the median is 8.4 AA, not 7.

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#66 Thrice_III
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As for the game now...

I rented it today and have gone through the first 5 levels and I must say that I'm actually enjoying it quite a bit.

The presenation is amazing. The graphics are great and the music is epic. But this is not shocking all the videos showed how great this game looks.

The controls are not good but they don't ruin the game. My main complaint is that the 180 turn move rarely works. I have just stopped doing the moves that I'm having a tough time getting off. You do limit the controls of your dragon a bit by doing this but it does make the games controls less frustrating.

I'm not too far into the game yet but I've enjoyed the gameplay, the game really isn't hard and a little repetitve but I do believe the presentation and feel of the game keeps the experience fresh.

I'd say this game is a 6-7.5 range. The controls are definitely flawed, but I feel the basic controls aren't flawed so I just stay away from doing the moves that don't work to make the experience not as frustating. For some reason I can just see these reviewers trying to pull a move off(like the 180) over and over even if it is not working and just getting angry at the game. I have just stopped trying that move because I know the controller rarely picks it up.

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#67 sportivoo
Member since 2007 • 260 Posts

:evil:4.5.....4.5.....4.5.....4.5:evil: WHAT **** WAS THAT Lair & Lair & Bllaaa

the first time I saw the pictures for it befor it came I said : this game will get 9.5 & above

In fact I got dispoint:( anyway.....peace8)

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#68 theiceman08
Member since 2007 • 498 Posts
is lair out? can i get it at gamestop?
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#69 jakndaxter7223
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i kinda thought it wouldnt be too great when i stopped hearing ANYTHING about it. no vids on PS store or anything
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#70 morrow4
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1. I own lair and yes- it is freakin hard andthe controls and camera are screwed up too. but thats what makes it fun. its challenging. its not some lame lego star wars easy ****. You have to have skill, and patience. I haven't played a game in a while that I had to constantly play levels over and over again before I beat them. And 7.1 surround sound is amazing. and 1080p omg...

2. Game Informer Review 7.25!!!

The lead reviewer gave lair a 7.25, the second opinion reviewer gaveit a 8!!!Yes they said the camera sucked and controls were annoying. However theyaren't wusses and they kept playing. They knew it washard but its still a fun game.

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#71 omgimonfire13
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1. I own lair and yes- it is freakin hard andthe controls and camera are screwed up too. but thats what makes it fun. its challenging. its not some lame lego star wars easy ****. You have to have skill, and patience. I haven't played a game in a while that I had to constantly play levels over and over again before I beat them. And 7.1 surround sound is amazing. and 1080p omg...

2. Game Informer Review 7.25!!!

The lead reviewer gave lair a 7.25, the second opinion reviewer gaveit a 8!!!Yes they said the camera sucked and controls were annoying. However theyaren't wusses and they kept playing. They knew it washard but its still a fun game

morrow4

Game informer is, and most likley only will be, my favorit gameing magazine :D

Also, What is with the gamespot pictures? The make it look like tilting to right makes you go left, which is untrue....

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#72 acidBURN1942
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[QUOTE="morrow4"]

1. I own lair and yes- it is freakin hard andthe controls and camera are screwed up too. but thats what makes it fun. its challenging. its not some lame lego star wars easy ****. You have to have skill, and patience. I haven't played a game in a while that I had to constantly play levels over and over again before I beat them. And 7.1 surround sound is amazing. and 1080p omg...

2. Game Informer Review 7.25!!!

The lead reviewer gave lair a 7.25, the second opinion reviewer gaveit a 8!!!Yes they said the camera sucked and controls were annoying. However theyaren't wusses and they kept playing. They knew it washard but its still a fun game

omgimonfire13

Game informer is, and most likley only will be, my favorit gameing magazine :D

Also, What is with the gamespot pictures? The make it look like tilting to right makes you go left, which is untrue....

is criminal how this game is being treated. I just played through with all teh commentaries and its soo awesome, and getting gold medals make you feel so accomplished.
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#73 longhorn7
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[QUOTE="omgimonfire13"][QUOTE="morrow4"]

1. I own lair and yes- it is freakin hard andthe controls and camera are screwed up too. but thats what makes it fun. its challenging. its not some lame lego star wars easy ****. You have to have skill, and patience. I haven't played a game in a while that I had to constantly play levels over and over again before I beat them. And 7.1 surround sound is amazing. and 1080p omg...

2. Game Informer Review 7.25!!!

The lead reviewer gave lair a 7.25, the second opinion reviewer gaveit a 8!!!Yes they said the camera sucked and controls were annoying. However theyaren't wusses and they kept playing. They knew it washard but its still a fun game

acidBURN1942

Game informer is, and most likley only will be, my favorit gameing magazine :D

Also, What is with the gamespot pictures? The make it look like tilting to right makes you go left, which is untrue....

is criminal how this game is being treated. I just played through with all teh commentaries and its soo awesome, and getting gold medals make you feel so accomplished.

i just beat the spotlight mission im havin a blast
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#74 the1stmoonfly
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I was looking at this game as a potential system seller as I dont really care for MGS or FF, and with GTA and Assassins Creed both coming onto 360, I now only have Haze and Killzone 2 to look forward to with a possability of GT5 if it offers enough.

Things arent looking to good for the PS3 right now :(

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#75 tomgps
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I was looking at this game as a potential system seller as I dont really care for MGS or FF, and with GTA and Assassins Creed both coming onto 360, I now only have Haze and Killzone 2 to look forward to with a possability of GT5 if it offers enough.

Things arent looking to good for the PS3 right now :(

the1stmoonfly

For you.

A system with MGS/FF/Haze/GTA/GT5/and KZ2 does NOT have a bleak future.

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#76 the1stmoonfly
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[QUOTE="the1stmoonfly"]

I was looking at this game as a potential system seller as I dont really care for MGS or FF, and with GTA and Assassins Creed both coming onto 360, I now only have Haze and Killzone 2 to look forward to with a possability of GT5 if it offers enough.

Things arent looking to good for the PS3 right now :(

tomgps

For you.

A system with MGS/FF/Haze/GTA/GT5/and KZ2 does NOT have a bleak future.

Fair comment
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#77 tomgps
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[QUOTE="tomgps"][QUOTE="the1stmoonfly"]

I was looking at this game as a potential system seller as I dont really care for MGS or FF, and with GTA and Assassins Creed both coming onto 360, I now only have Haze and Killzone 2 to look forward to with a possability of GT5 if it offers enough.

Things arent looking to good for the PS3 right now :(

the1stmoonfly

For you.

A system with MGS/FF/Haze/GTA/GT5/and KZ2 does NOT have a bleak future.

Fair comment

I do remember when Lair was hyped all over this board though. A shame it has fallen so far and so fast.

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#78 the1stmoonfly
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[QUOTE="the1stmoonfly"][QUOTE="tomgps"][QUOTE="the1stmoonfly"]

I was looking at this game as a potential system seller as I dont really care for MGS or FF, and with GTA and Assassins Creed both coming onto 360, I now only have Haze and Killzone 2 to look forward to with a possability of GT5 if it offers enough.

Things arent looking to good for the PS3 right now :(

tomgps

For you.

A system with MGS/FF/Haze/GTA/GT5/and KZ2 does NOT have a bleak future.

Fair comment

I do remember when Lair was hyped all over this board though. A shame it has fallen so far and so fast.

For me this is a big gripe I have with Sony, they show all these fancy emulated trailers and fancy grphics, and bang on about the power of the cell, then something like this happens and it just makes them loose credibility. I think this is hurting the PS3 more than anything else right now, gamers are smart and know their stuff and eventually the truth comes out. I so wanted Lair to be ace and it's a shame its just not that good.

Devs need to concentrate on making great games (as im sure they will) instead of listening to Sony trying to push 1080p and Blu-ray. MS are doing the right thingkeeping games at 720p and concentrating on letting devs decide what to do with graphics.Its a good think Kojima, Square-Enix and Rockstar keep whats most important in mind, and I think Sony's future rests in their hands more than anything.

For me, my decision on buying a PS3 (probably not untill at least summer next year now) will depend on how good KZ2, Haze, GT5 and Wipeout are, and on what surfaces in development between now and then.

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#79 acidBURN1942
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[QUOTE="tomgps"][QUOTE="the1stmoonfly"][QUOTE="tomgps"][QUOTE="the1stmoonfly"]

I was looking at this game as a potential system seller as I dont really care for MGS or FF, and with GTA and Assassins Creed both coming onto 360, I now only have Haze and Killzone 2 to look forward to with a possability of GT5 if it offers enough.

Things arent looking to good for the PS3 right now :(

the1stmoonfly

For you.

A system with MGS/FF/Haze/GTA/GT5/and KZ2 does NOT have a bleak future.

Fair comment

I do remember when Lair was hyped all over this board though. A shame it has fallen so far and so fast.

For me this is a big gripe I have with Sony, they show all these fancy emulated trailers and fancy grphics, and bang on about the power of the cell, then something like this happens and it just makes them loose credibility. I think this is hurting the PS3 more than anything else right now, gamers are smart and know their stuff and eventually the truth comes out. I so wanted Lair to be ace and it's a shame its just not that good.

Devs need to concentrate on making great games (as im sure they will) instead of listening to Sony trying to push 1080p and Blu-ray. MS are doing the right thingkeeping games at 720p and concentrating on letting devs decide what to do with graphics.Its a good think Kojima, Square-Enix and Rockstar keep whats most important in mind, and I think Sony's future rests in their hands more than anything.

For me, my decision on buying a PS3 (probably not untill at least summer next year now) will depend on how good KZ2, Haze, GT5 and Wipeout are, and on what surfaces in development between now and then.

The thing is LAIR is ace, people just dont realize it. This game has better visuals, sound, extras, and more original gameplay thats fun and entertaining than any other PS3 game.
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#80 Thrice_III
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[QUOTE="morrow4"]

1. I own lair and yes- it is freakin hard andthe controls and camera are screwed up too. but thats what makes it fun. its challenging. its not some lame lego star wars easy ****. You have to have skill, and patience. I haven't played a game in a while that I had to constantly play levels over and over again before I beat them. And 7.1 surround sound is amazing. and 1080p omg...

2. Game Informer Review 7.25!!!

The lead reviewer gave lair a 7.25, the second opinion reviewer gaveit a 8!!!Yes they said the camera sucked and controls were annoying. However theyaren't wusses and they kept playing. They knew it washard but its still a fun game

omgimonfire13

Game informer is, and most likley only will be, my favorit gameing magazine :D

Also, What is with the gamespot pictures? The make it look like tilting to right makes you go left, which is untrue....

I know, reading GS review and reading the captions for the photos I thought the game couldn't even pick up what direction you wanted to fly. The basics of the game(left, right, up, down) are read very well by the controller. I find the most annoying thing in the game so far is not the controls but the camera gets wonky every now and then(though not a big problem either).

Lair has to be the most hated game out right now, for no reason. I'm having a blast with it, just finished the level after the spotlight mission. I've replayed the levels many times just trying to get higher medals and it is not a chore at all, it's really fun to play the missions over and over again. The more I play the game the more I think this game is MUCH better than the reviews are saying.

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#81 acidBURN1942
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[QUOTE="omgimonfire13"][QUOTE="morrow4"]

1. I own lair and yes- it is freakin hard andthe controls and camera are screwed up too. but thats what makes it fun. its challenging. its not some lame lego star wars easy ****. You have to have skill, and patience. I haven't played a game in a while that I had to constantly play levels over and over again before I beat them. And 7.1 surround sound is amazing. and 1080p omg...

2. Game Informer Review 7.25!!!

The lead reviewer gave lair a 7.25, the second opinion reviewer gaveit a 8!!!Yes they said the camera sucked and controls were annoying. However theyaren't wusses and they kept playing. They knew it washard but its still a fun game

Thrice_III

Game informer is, and most likley only will be, my favorit gameing magazine :D

Also, What is with the gamespot pictures? The make it look like tilting to right makes you go left, which is untrue....

I know, reading GS review and reading the captions for the photos I thought the game couldn't even pick up what direction you wanted to fly. The basics of the game(left, right, up, down) are read very well by the controller. I find the most annoying thing in the game so far is not the controls but the camera gets wonky every now and then(though not a big problem either).

Lair has to be the most hated game out right now, for no reason. I'm having a blast with it, just finished the level after the spotlight mission. I've replayed the levels many times just trying to get higher medals and it is not a chore at all, it's really fun to play the missions over and over again. The more I play the game the more I think this game is MUCH better than the reviews are saying.

Yup!
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#82 Poppy425
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6 friends of mine.. 3 sony fanbois and 3 ms fanbois all agree.. Lair was a total let down.. the graphics were mostly nice but it seems they looked alot better at each E3 appearance and the controls weren't horrible..but they weren't good.. All the hype and the game just didn't live up to expectations.. Non of my PS 3 owning friends are buying it. So all you Sony Fanbois saying that Gamespot and IGN were paid to give a bad review need to wake up and accept the fact that Lair is not the game that Sony was hyping as the PS3 game to sell their system.
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#83 Timstuff
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Factor 5 should just release a new Rogue Squadron game with online play and analog controls.
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#84 deactivated-598489b928c6a
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just rent the damn game. then make a decision based on that
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#85 Coldsteel001
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Ah man ! not another PS3 exclusive title not worth buying, not going to get sucked in by this Sony hype ever again. Motion this motion that.... what a load of **** hurry up and just bring back the bloody rumble.
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#86 stefanlek
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well i only played the first mission of this game at my friends house and YES the controls are hard to master however my friend has mastered the controls and says that once you have, its a blast to play. He told me not to buy it if im too lazy, because it has a 2-3 hour learning curve lol.
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#87 kreestoph
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im only on "ravine of no return which is about 6 or 7 levels in on lair, and its amazing sofar. great game, and to be honest i love the controlles, the battles are fun, and theres alot of options in them. I dont know WHY this game is getting such low scores, but i wont be trusting the reviews from here on in, not that i ever did anyways. 
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#88 Diomedes1976
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It has a steeper learning curve compared to other games ,and that makes the game something frustrating for players that dont want to spend that kind of time playing tutorials etc .But ,the game once the controls mastered is a blast to play and users reviews are quite good .For sure it isnt a AAA title ,but its not a 4.5 game that would be the worst game of the catalogue (bare some Store ones as Supersprint and Joust) .

Sony should release a lenghty demo ,that way people could get their own opinion .

The sad thing in all this is that even a hardened videogames reviewer couldnt put 2-3 hours mastering the controls until giving his final judgement .Maybe in this time of the Wii even the reviewers will be extreme casual gamers that get frustrated if they cant just have fun moving the wiimote left and right .

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#89 acidBURN1942
Member since 2002 • 4816 Posts
Glad to see people agreeing with me after trying the game for themselves. I am just trying to say that this review, not just eh gamespot one but every single one out there is a disgrace, none of them should call themselves gamers.
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#90 JustWiicredible
Member since 2007 • 1908 Posts
I thought it would get a higher rating. I pre ordered it already so i guess i'll play it no matter what.
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#91 MGS4eva
Member since 2007 • 120 Posts
OMG I cant believe all these bad reviews I just beat the game its not like God of War or Like Ninja Gaiden its Hard but you have to get use to it because video games wont be with anologs forever.
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#92 alsha3er78
Member since 2005 • 812 Posts
I played for few hours at a friends house. the trick to enjoy lair is to treat it like a kid..."reverse psychology". if you want your dragon to go left, tilt the sixaxis to the right. if you want the dragon to go right, tilt the sixaxis to the left. if you want the dragon to go up, tilt....well you get the picture. this game sucks. warhawk, on the other hand, is a much better game.
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#93 rhyumavampire
Member since 2004 • 110 Posts

Well, I got Lair today and played quite a bit of here. Here is my review.

Graphics:

I might as well start here since this seems to be the highlight of the game. Personally, I was a bit letdown by the graphics. As much focus as they put on the graphics themselves, and the game being in 1080p, the graphics should be a lot more polished. Are they good? Yes. Are they the best graphics I've ever seen? Not even close. If the game ran at a solid 30 fps...the graphics would probably look better. There's not a whole lot of variety in the graphics either. Most dragons/soldiers/environments look pretty much the same. It doesn't matter how good the graphics are if they aren't running smoothly. This game's framerate never drops enough to effect the gameplay itself but I don't think it ever runs at a solid 30 fps for more than a couple seconds. The game itself has a constant slightly choppy look to it and after a while this gets annoying.

Controls/Gameplay:

Here it is...the main complaint with this game. And yes it is worthy of being the main complaint. The controls aren't hard to learn at all. Seriously. I mean I had the controls down perfectly within 5 or 10 minutes. The fact of the matter is, however, that the controls themselves are just plain bad. At first it's kind of neat to fly the dragon with the motion controls but once again, after a while it gets annoying. Gamespot was exaggerating when they said "No go right!" and showed the picture of the dragon going left. However there are times when your dragon does not do what you tell it to and that's simply because the response to the motion controls isn't sensitive enough, and your range of motion isn't unlimited. If you're heading for a building at high speed and you tell your dragon to go right, sometimes the response is slow enough that the dragon will sort of do it's own thing, as it cannot fly forward anymore. I had no problem doing the 180 degree spin manuever that people kept complaining about though. Are the controls playable and bearable? Yes. Is the game much less fun/enjoyable because of them? Yes.

The gameplay also isn't too great. Most of the time you can't tell which dragons are your enemies and which ones are your allies. After a while you just say "Screw it" and start shooting at anything that moves. If you hear somebody yelling "FRIENDLY FIRE!" or "We're on your side!", then you know they're your allies. There's not really much diversity or variety to the gameplay either. Most missions are the same and by the time you get the hang of what you're doing and start getting into it, a cutscene interrupts you, or the mission itself ends. The boss battles could've been better also. They aren't original nor are they interesting. The game's scale looked to be more impressive than something like Shadow of the Colossus at E3, but this is also a disappointment in the actual game. The maps are big and open, but they are bland and bare, filled with nothing.

Storyline:

Umm...fairly unoriginal and most of the time boring. Is that the best they could do?

Replay Value:

Well, you have to finish a game before you can replay it, and I couldn't bring myself to finish it. So I'd say none, which is a shame considering that I love dragons, and had high hopes for this game all along. Even with the bad reviews came out I never lost faith in the game. I have been screwed over by reviews so many times that I don't even listen to them anymore. *cough cough ROGUE GALAXY cough cough RAINBOW SIX LAS VEGAS cough cough*

This game is an utter disappointment. I gave it a chance, and played it quite a bit before giving up on it. I'll be trading it in along with Rainbow Six Las Vegas to pick up Heavenly Sword next week. (once again, a game I haven't lost faith in)

Oh well...I guess it's back to and Resistance/Warhawk online and Oblivion until then..

I still have love for the PS3 though! We've still got plenty of great titles to come! I just hope these developers take their time and release a quality product. I'd rather wait a few more months and have good games.

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#94 vauba_haoly
Member since 2005 • 402 Posts
I am not suprised it got 4.5, dragon games are NEVER good.LtColJaxson
Panzer Dragoon Orta is a AAA game.
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#95 da1writer
Member since 2005 • 581 Posts

To the exception of this post, everyone know's I like to write and I mean alot! So I decided to write a review worthy enough to do this game justice! Grab a snack and read please :)! Lair is still a kick ass Game!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/lair/player_review.html?id=492973&tag=readerreviews;continue

Also,I'd like to thank Longhorn7 before I post this link :), it shows that Lair is as easy as me and everyone says. Just relax and be patient while learning how to play, you'll find out the controls are a piece of cake! Remember,you're not driving a damn car people, your flying a big ass dragon! I have to say though, the clip is quite funny in the beginning because it makes me wonder if that is why most gamers and reviewers think the controls suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxPKXfRRNAY

Final note (Edited this post 5 times now because of finding new info), for those who just flatout suck at controlling with the motion sensing of this game, check out this link, It may help you to enjoy this game:

http://ps3.qj.net/Solution-to-SIXAXIS-woes-play-Lair-using-USB-control-pads/pg/49/aid/101486

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#96 vegetattack15
Member since 2007 • 1686 Posts
I don't understand why this thread was stickied. Shouldn't we concentrate on the positives of the PS3? Lair flopped, let's get over it, i'm too busy playing Warhawk to care anyway.
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#97 da1writer
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I don't understand why this thread was stickied. Shouldn't we concentrate on the positives of the PS3? Lair flopped, let's get over it, i'm too busy playing Warhawk to care anyway.vegetattack15

Some of us believe the game is great and many of us have gotten use to the motion sensing better than others. I and many others believe this game did not flop and is a very enjoyable game to play, to see, and hear! Your opinion is biased and you are probably one of the few that:

1) Based your judgement on this game off the bad reviews and did not try the game yourself. Sad...

2) Did not even bother learning the motion sensing of the controls or even return to the training ground. Patience is a virtue I must say and you are probably one of the few that rushed the game and gave up way too early.

3) Prefer old **** and rather play games using the same old controls we've been using for 10 years (dualshock/analog) and prefer nothing new or innovative in your gaming experience.

I and many others can say that we made a good judgement and gotLAIR anyway, despite what anyone says or reviews.

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#98 trininuyawka
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Thanks da1writer for the links. After seeing the youtube video, I have a feeling that anybody who has mastered flOw (or played a flight simulator like Microsoft Flight Simulator) should have no problem learning the controls and playing the game. I was skeptical of the Gamespot review to begin with. This is not a FPS game. I believe the creators intended the game to have fairly realistic flight controls in terms of weight and physics. If you imagine that it's a big dragon that's designed to weigh a good couple of tons, then it makes sense that you can't turn on a dime. You're not flying a humming bird for crying out loud.
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#99 GPAddict
Member since 2005 • 5964 Posts

Wow, Even Two Worlds scored better then this game.

Sad!

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#100 vegetattack15
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[QUOTE="vegetattack15"]I don't understand why this thread was stickied. Shouldn't we concentrate on the positives of the PS3? Lair flopped, let's get over it, i'm too busy playing Warhawk to care anyway.da1writer

Some of us believe the game is great and many of us have gotten use to the motion sensing better than others. I and many others believe this game did not flop and is a very enjoyable game to play, to see, and hear! Your opinion is biased and you are probably one of the few that:

1) Based your judgement on this game off the bad reviews and did not try the game yourself. Sad...

2) Did not even bother learning the motion sensing of the controls or even return to the training ground. Patience is a virtue I must say and you are probably one of the few that rushed the game and gave up way too early.

3) Prefer old **** and rather play games using the same old controls we've been using for 10 years (dualshock/analog) and prefer nothing new or innovative in your gaming experience.

I and many others can say that we made a good judgement and gotLAIR anyway, despite what anyone says or reviews.

Yeah number one actually, I just can't justify spending $60 on a game that 90% of the people who played it say it sucks. I'm not saying I don't want to play it, cause I do. I'll wait till it's in the bargain bin, or until I get to play a demo.

I'm merely saying that MOST of the video games world has labeled this game as a flop. Yes there are a couple games with low scores I liked, but I'll just wait to try this one. Let's move on, that's all.