OMG , Ninja Gaiden Sigma is giving me a very hard time , need help !!!

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#1 indzman
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Last week i purchased NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA and hoped to enjoy it 2 the fullest or so i thought ( How wrong i was !!!) .

Now , OMG ... NGS damn hard guys at least 4 me :( , Whoa !!! i don't recall playing such a hardcore game before ( I haven't played NG on Xbox be4 2 ) O.o

Damn , the game is giving me plenty of sweats , frustation as more the game progressing even on normal mode :(

But i'll keep on trying to beat the game , wish me best of luck all of you guys :)

Srry 4 my lilttle rant above , but my topic was meant what is your opinion on NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA ?

I want everybodys opinion who have beaten NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA , is how to manage this otherwise hard game ?

But ye , i'm keeping on trying :) I'm on Chapter six n got stuck while beating some biker boyz , then some dinos , lastly a big octopus kinda thing , dunno its name :( I ain't getting checkpoint after beating the biker boyz n dinos :(

And how many of you found the game hard still beaten it ? can you pls suggest me the secret of beating Ninja Gaiden Sigma ?

Thanking everybody in advance :)

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#2 LoG-Sacrament
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wait until you get to the ghost fish. they pissed me off so much.
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#3 indzman
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wait until you get to the ghost fish. they pissed me off so much.LoG-Sacrament

Damn , u got me more worried now :P

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#4 BioShockOwnz
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The first time I played Ninja Gaiden, I cried. Then as I played through Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden Sigman, it become a lot easier. It's all about blocking and being patient. It is one of the hardest games out there, though.
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u have to use the roll and jump to stay in a continuous state of motion. and the ghost fish suck so much
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#6 indzman
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The first time I played Ninja Gaiden, I cried. Then as I played through Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden Sigman, it become a lot easier. It's all about blocking and being patient. It is one of the hardest games out there, though.BioShockOwnz

I see , thanks 4 the tip abt blocking and being patient very much , i guess i'm playing without patience at all :)

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#7 locoidontknow
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There is a great feeling of accomplishment from beating this game. Sigma is easier then the original, but I have beaten both. You have to be patient, there is skill to fighting, its not a hack n slash.

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#8 indzman
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u have to use the roll and jump to stay in a continuous state of motion. and the ghost fish suck so muchnaitsirhc

Thanks 4 the feedback very much , i'll keep this tip in my mind :)

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#9 indzman
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There is a great feeling of accomplishment from beating this game. Sigma is easier then the original, but I have beaten both. You have to be patient, there is skill to fighting, its not a hack n slash.

locoidontknow

I agree fully :) after beating a couple of bosses i felt gr8 accomplishment , I pray i beat the game fully 2 :)

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#10 WMDfreeman99
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Yeah i am working on it too. I have notice if you level your weapons ealy the fighing is much easier. My dragon sword, dual blads and staff are leveled to 3 stars. Killing is sweet. I am only at 2 stars with the frails
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#11 d_ano
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if you are finding it hard then die 3 times in the same stage and the difficulty will go down to ninja dog which is a lot easier. but still it doesnt make the game a piece of cake it is still very challenging the only tip i can give that helps everyone no matter how good is to keep jumping. if you are fighting 1 on 1 try to jump over the guy and slash his back.

oh and rather than slowly upgrade weapons fully upgrade 1 then fully upgrade annother. dont buy the wooden sword its such a waste. i recoment upgrading the dragon sword, the duel swords, the long red pole thing (sorry i cant remember the name) and the large gold sword. of course upgrade the others but these are the best to get you through

and the ghost fish are very annoying and hard but i only found out after i beat it that if you shake the sixaxis when they are biting you they will shake off

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#12 MERC_RECONN
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Last week i purchased NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA and hoped to enjoy it 2 the fullest or so i thought ( How wrong i was !!!) .

Now , OMG ... NGS damn hard guys at least 4 me :( , Whoa !!! i don't recall playing such a hardcore game before ( I haven't played NG on Xbox be4 2 ) O.o

Damn , the game is giving me plenty of sweats , frustation as more the game progressing even on normal mode :(

But i'll keep on trying to beat the game , wish me best of luck all of you guys :)

Srry 4 my lilttle rant above , but my topic was meant what is your opinion on NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA ?

I want everybodys opinion who have beaten NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA , is how to manage this otherwise hard game ?

But ye , i'm keeping on trying :) I'm on Chapter six n got stuck while beating some biker boyz , then some dinos , lastly a big octopus kinda thing , dunno its name :( I ain't getting checkpoint after beating the biker boyz n dinos :(

And how many of you found the game hard still beaten it ? can you pls suggest me the secret of beating Ninja Gaiden Sigma ?

Thanking everybody in advance :)

indzman

lol...welcome to the NGS frustration club. The game is hard as heck but the gameplay is so good, that is what keeps you motivated.But to tell you the truth, the ps3 version is a little easy-er the the xbox version that came out a few years ago. And as one of the other posters said, happy hunting with the ghost fish. lol

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#13 jdc6305
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Try drinking lots of coffee thats what got me through ninja gaiden on xbox. Everytime I went to play I would put a pot on.
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Well, the key to Ninja Gaiden is blocking, and waiting for the right time to attack/counter attack. Only attack when you have an opening to and you're not about to be attacked by someone else. Blocking will stop every attack except for the strongest hits and enemy grabs/throws.

And don't worry too much about ghost fish you'll meet later on. The key to them are the vigoorian flails (basically bladed nunchucku). Copied and pasted from the last time I answered someone about the fish: "The trick with the ghost fish and flails is after a couple swings of the flail (before the end of the natural combo, since at the end of the combo is a large recovery time) jump and swing, then start swinging normally as soon as you hit the ground again. Doing this resets the combo string on the ground, and begins it again anew. Repeat until it's all clear. Most often the time people get caught by fish is during the recovery at the end of the combo"

Otherwise, have fun. I really like NGS. I've beaten the game 6 times now (3 on normal, 2 on hard, and 1 on very hard; not master ninja yet because the first level is evil).

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#15 indzman
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WOW ! Thanks a lot all of u freinds , all of ur feedbacks certainly helped me noiticed the flaws i was doing while playing the game. Next time i'll certainly keep all of yours feedbacks in mind n try to do appropiately as you all suggessted :)

Thanking everybody again 4 all the help , i really appreciated :)

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Find combos and perfect them. I personally suggest blocking until enemies have finished their animations then going on a barrage of attacks. I suggest learning the jumping head cut move where you jump and charge an enemy cutting off their head. Also if enemies are firing projectiles at you then jump around and keep moving until you can move in for the strike. I think the guys with the bike you can knock off with the bow and arrow if you wait for them to stop.
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Well, the key to Ninja Gaiden is blocking, and waiting for the right time to attack/counter attack. Only attack when you have an opening to and you're not about to be attacked by someone else. Blocking will stop every attack except for the strongest hits and enemy grabs/throws.

And don't worry too much about ghost fish you'll meet later on. The key to them are the vigoorian flails (basically bladed nunchucku). Copied and pasted from the last time I answered someone about the fish: "The trick with the ghost fish and flails is after a couple swings of the flail (before the end of the natural combo, since at the end of the combo is a large recovery time) jump and swing, then start swinging normally as soon as you hit the ground again. Doing this resets the combo string on the ground, and begins it again anew. Repeat until it's all clear. Most often the time people get caught by fish is during the recovery at the end of the combo"

Otherwise, have fun. I really like NGS. I've beaten the game 6 times now (3 on normal, 2 on hard, and 1 on very hard; not master ninja yet because the first level is evil).

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I remember the ghost fish and I hated them as they killed me more than any other enemy. They were harder than most of the bosses. OH and I suggest the lunar as your default weapon bc it moves quick and has wide range
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Well, the key to Ninja Gaiden is blocking, and waiting for the right time to attack/counter attack. Only attack when you have an opening to and you're not about to be attacked by someone else. Blocking will stop every attack except for the strongest hits and enemy grabs/throws.

And don't worry too much about ghost fish you'll meet later on. The key to them are the vigoorian flails (basically bladed nunchucku). Copied and pasted from the last time I answered someone about the fish: "The trick with the ghost fish and flails is after a couple swings of the flail (before the end of the natural combo, since at the end of the combo is a large recovery time) jump and swing, then start swinging normally as soon as you hit the ground again. Doing this resets the combo string on the ground, and begins it again anew. Repeat until it's all clear. Most often the time people get caught by fish is during the recovery at the end of the combo"

Otherwise, have fun. I really like NGS. I've beaten the game 6 times now (3 on normal, 2 on hard, and 1 on very hard; not master ninja yet because the first level is evil).

jt4mtb
i used the dragon sword for the fish. just jump and hit square. then jump backwards and hit square. rinse, repeat. i had no problems then.
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If you use the vigorian flail the ghost fish become the easiest enemies in the game and will often drop orbs of every kind, an easy way to recover your health.

Other techniques include rolling and blocking and waiting till after the enemy's combo is finish then go on the attack. Very important some enemies have the ability to grab and cause major damage while your blocking or idle so make sure as soon as your done blocking and I mean as soon as the enemy's combo is finished that you either attack or jump.

Learn the charge jump cut, the most effective of all techniques, if done properly you can take and enemies head clean off, or chip away at anemies health or stun them giving you the chance to do ground attacks. The jump cut is the technique that I beat the final boss with which is why I think the final boss is the weakest boss of them all, because the charge jump cut doesn't work on any other boss.

Plus when it comes to bosses don't be afraid to use ninpo especially against Alma both of her forms, conserve ninpo only for bosses.

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#20 shroom76
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if ur used to god of war and heavnly sword where you can just spam buttons and win thats why. you ahve to block, roll, and actually time your attacks. LEARN TEH COMBOS! in this game you really have to. also its best to take on each enemy individually so you can time a hardcore awesome gorey combo jsut right then there is one less enemy.

im glad this game is hard, teaches noobs these days a lesson or two. they key it to know which enemy your facing, approach each enemy differently and switch weapons often. get a few uber combos under your fingers that you like.

this game was hard for me too, but it sure doesnt get any easier... its very rewarding when you finish it though. good luck, this game is definately worth it.

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#21 Prinze
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Purchase the move "Izuna Drop" and learn how to use it; not only does it inflict heavy damage, but it will harm surrounding enemies as well. The combo is basically done in two parts (I suggest the Dragon Sword or the dual swords), first you hit square then triangle, this hits the enemy in the air and causes you to jump after them, then you hit square three times followed by one more triangle, this causes Ryu to grab the enemy by the waist and slam them into the ground upside down, it's a pretty pimp move and is definitely powerful.
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#22 earlaps
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I appreciate all the people who gave helpful comments to the person asking for help here. The last time I asked for help with a game, I was rewarded with a response of "maybe you just suck". Since gamespot is so strict about everything, I wonder if in the future such "maybe you suck" responses should just be refused entry to the site just like **** and ****, not to mention ****.

BTW, NGS is a hard game and no amount of walk through guides makes it easy. Good luck!

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#23 FroMZeRo2HeRO
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Im playing this game for the first time and am currently on chapter 13 (ninja mode) just make sure you upgrade your weapons whenever possible, block and counter often, spam flying swallow,and save often! After every little thing you accomplish even if you have to backtrack you should save, cause your gonna get "gameover" alot!
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#24 RoOodriGowW
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It's not that hard I managed to beat on normal mode without even notice it was hardcore but then things changed in the hard LOL there u can see the true meaning of HARDcore.Btw the ghost fishes really piss off x.x

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#25 somesthetic
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play the game better and it will be easier.
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#26 fuzzysquash
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Who else here has beat Doku during your first fight with him at the Hayabusa village?

Took me ~ 50 tries, but I did it.

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#27 steve4200
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the ghost fish are a sinch if u use the purple flail nunchuk weapon...(cant remember the name) but yeah using that u can take out 30-40 fish without getting touched...i used them to farm money and orbs and such...i made tens of thousands of dollars off them...but yeah someone in the story line tells u to use the purple flail weapon against them...(anything else is nearly impossable) good luck :) and just wait till u get to the last couple of boss's :D last 5-6 boss's are sooooo much fun...great game overall though i had a blast playing through it
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#28 namcoman67
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my secret was buying alot of life and upgrading my weapons. also you have to dodge alot and know when to attack. i sold this game though after i got disappointed that part 2 was only going to be for 360.
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#29 lilrichy209
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^_^ hmm.. u did pick a very challenging game, which is the first I bought for PS3. I played previous ninja gaiden games for xbox and it became more easier on sigma. The most important thing to do in thie game is learn how to block. If you don"t block often then you'll find this game to be difficult. If your new to ninja gaiden I Prefer playing easy mode first to learn the basic. I recommend playing ninja dog mode first. Unlock ninja dog by dying 3 times I believe and you get through the game without any problems. When you get better, playing hard mode is a lot of fun and master it in no time ^_^.
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#30 ImaPirate0202
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wait until you get to the ghost fish. they pissed me off so much.LoG-Sacrament

Worst part of the game, I wanted to smash my controller up.

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just adding a couple more tips here:

1.to charge for an ultimate attack hold triangle, blue glowing means essence attack or ET and gold glowing means ultimate attack or UT. essence can be absorbed to speed up the process of charging for the attack. 1 yellow=ET, 2 yellow=UT, 1 red/blue=UT

2. if you want to charge for an ultimate attack, jump then hit triangle as soon as you touch the ground, if done properly you should skip the animation of him leaning down saving a couple seconds. also the jump is helpful to get out of harms way.

3.while blocking or attacking you wont absorb any essence, its good practice to kill a couple enemies, hold the block button, then jump into the middle of the other enemies and charge a UT using the essence from the enemies you killed. that should f**k some people up.

4.alma is a bit*h, the best weapons against her are the twin swords, flying swallow(jump at enemie, hit triangle) to knock her down then izuna drop her. sorry i dont remember the button pattern for izuna drop

5. the dragon sword iz pretty much the best weapon throughout the game, other then the vigooran flails on the fish. unless you're willing to learn to use the dabilahro . but be warned with that sword you're left open for attack very often.

6. for those bikers use the throw tecnique to get them off the bikes quickly. jump at enemy then hit square + x

7. someone said the wooden sword is useless? i beg to differ, if you can level the sword up all 7 levels its the most powerful weapon in the game. once you're below 10% health that is. at this stage however you can kill almost every enemy in the game in one hit

8.block, block, block and block some more. this cant be said enough. always be on the defensive, if not evasive, until you're ready for your attack.

9.if you get hit with an exploding suriken, you can time a roll just right that you wont get hit. time so that it explodes while you're rolling

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#32 Generic_Dude
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Ninja Gaiden Sigma is hard like video games USED to be hard. Befriend the block button. That's all I can tell ya.
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[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]wait until you get to the ghost fish. they pissed me off so much.indzman

Damn , u got me more worried now :P

wait until you get to the ghost fish. they pissed me off so much.LoG-Sacrament

yeah they are the ones that made me pissed i hate that part so much thats when you need to be careful with your controler dont throw it lol i did a couple of times

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just adding a couple more tips here:

1.to charge for an ultimate attack hold triangle, blue glowing means essence attack or ET and gold glowing means ultimate attack or UT. essence can be absorbed to speed up the process of charging for the attack. 1 yellow=ET, 2 yellow=UT, 1 red/blue=UT

2. if you want to charge for an ultimate attack, jump then hit triangle as soon as you touch the ground, if done properly you should skip the animation of him leaning down saving a couple seconds. also the jump is helpful to get out of harms way.

3.while blocking or attacking you wont absorb any essence, its good practice to kill a couple enemies, hold the block button, then jump into the middle of the other enemies and charge a UT using the essence from the enemies you killed. that should f**k some people up.

4.alma is a bit*h, the best weapons against her are the twin swords, flying swallow(jump at enemie, hit triangle) to knock her down then izuna drop her. sorry i dont remember the button pattern for izuna drop

5. the dragon sword iz pretty much the best weapon throughout the game, other then the vigooran flails on the fish. unless you're willing to learn to use the dabilahro . but be warned with that sword you're left open for attack very often.

6. for those bikers use the throw tecnique to get them off the bikes quickly. jump at enemy then hit square + x

7. someone said the wooden sword is useless? i beg to differ, if you can level the sword up all 7 levels its the most powerful weapon in the game. once you're below 10% health that is. at this stage however you can kill almost every enemy in the game in one hit

8.block, block, block and block some more. this cant be said enough. always be on the defensive, if not evasive, until you're ready for your attack.

9.if you get hit with an exploding suriken, you can time a roll just right that you wont get hit. time so that it explodes while you're rolling

enygma500

No actually the best way to avoid damage from an exploding shuriken is to block. If you roll around while you have one attached to you it will still do major damage. If your hit with one just stand and block and wait till it explodes you will take very little damage.

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#35 FroMZeRo2HeRO
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[QUOTE="enygma500"]

just adding a couple more tips here:

1.to charge for an ultimate attack hold triangle, blue glowing means essence attack or ET and gold glowing means ultimate attack or UT. essence can be absorbed to speed up the process of charging for the attack. 1 yellow=ET, 2 yellow=UT, 1 red/blue=UT

2. if you want to charge for an ultimate attack, jump then hit triangle as soon as you touch the ground, if done properly you should skip the animation of him leaning down saving a couple seconds. also the jump is helpful to get out of harms way.

3.while blocking or attacking you wont absorb any essence, its good practice to kill a couple enemies, hold the block button, then jump into the middle of the other enemies and charge a UT using the essence from the enemies you killed. that should f**k some people up.

4.alma is a bit*h, the best weapons against her are the twin swords, flying swallow(jump at enemie, hit triangle) to knock her down then izuna drop her. sorry i dont remember the button pattern for izuna drop

5. the dragon sword iz pretty much the best weapon throughout the game, other then the vigooran flails on the fish. unless you're willing to learn to use the dabilahro . but be warned with that sword you're left open for attack very often.

6. for those bikers use the throw tecnique to get them off the bikes quickly. jump at enemy then hit square + x

7. someone said the wooden sword is useless? i beg to differ, if you can level the sword up all 7 levels its the most powerful weapon in the game. once you're below 10% health that is. at this stage however you can kill almost every enemy in the game in one hit

8.block, block, block and block some more. this cant be said enough. always be on the defensive, if not evasive, until you're ready for your attack.

9.if you get hit with an exploding suriken, you can time a roll just right that you wont get hit. time so that it explodes while you're rolling

deebo_x

No actually the best way to avoid damage from an exploding shuriken is to block. If you roll around while you have one attached to you it will still do major damage. If your hit with one just stand and block and wait till it explodes you will take very little damage.

Blocking while exploding shuriken is thrown at you will casue it to deflect and not stick to you (ninja mode,i dont know about harder diffitculties) if you do get hit by one, you can avoid damage by rolling at the same time it is about to go off.

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#36 deebo_x
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[QUOTE="deebo_x"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

just adding a couple more tips here:

1.to charge for an ultimate attack hold triangle, blue glowing means essence attack or ET and gold glowing means ultimate attack or UT. essence can be absorbed to speed up the process of charging for the attack. 1 yellow=ET, 2 yellow=UT, 1 red/blue=UT

2. if you want to charge for an ultimate attack, jump then hit triangle as soon as you touch the ground, if done properly you should skip the animation of him leaning down saving a couple seconds. also the jump is helpful to get out of harms way.

3.while blocking or attacking you wont absorb any essence, its good practice to kill a couple enemies, hold the block button, then jump into the middle of the other enemies and charge a UT using the essence from the enemies you killed. that should f**k some people up.

4.alma is a bit*h, the best weapons against her are the twin swords, flying swallow(jump at enemie, hit triangle) to knock her down then izuna drop her. sorry i dont remember the button pattern for izuna drop

5. the dragon sword iz pretty much the best weapon throughout the game, other then the vigooran flails on the fish. unless you're willing to learn to use the dabilahro . but be warned with that sword you're left open for attack very often.

6. for those bikers use the throw tecnique to get them off the bikes quickly. jump at enemy then hit square + x

7. someone said the wooden sword is useless? i beg to differ, if you can level the sword up all 7 levels its the most powerful weapon in the game. once you're below 10% health that is. at this stage however you can kill almost every enemy in the game in one hit

8.block, block, block and block some more. this cant be said enough. always be on the defensive, if not evasive, until you're ready for your attack.

9.if you get hit with an exploding suriken, you can time a roll just right that you wont get hit. time so that it explodes while you're rolling

FroMZeRo2HeRO

No actually the best way to avoid damage from an exploding shuriken is to block. If you roll around while you have one attached to you it will still do major damage. If your hit with one just stand and block and wait till it explodes you will take very little damage.

Blocking while exploding shuriken is thrown at you will casue it to deflect and not stick to you (ninja mode,i dont know about harder diffitculties) if you do get hit by one, you can avoid damage by rolling at the same time it is about to go off.

I've beaten NG, NGB, NGS and for both the xbox versions I used to roll as well when I was hit with one, but what I realized while playing Sigma you don't have to roll when hit with one all you have to do is just stand there and block and the shurikens do very little damage just try it.

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I've beaten NG, NGB, NGS and for both the xbox versions I used to roll as well when I was hit with one, but what I realized while playing Sigma you don't have to roll when hit with one all you have to do is just stand there and block and the shurikens do very little damage just try it.

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Yes, but I'd hope you'd know that timing it so it explodes at the beginning of the roll, you will take NO damage from the explosion (as you have invincible frames at the beginning of the roll). Not to mention if you just stay blocking when it goes off, it breaks your guard for a moment (which is a no-no against large groups, especially ninjas) and enemies will take advantage of that vulnerability. At least with the timed roll, you can maneuver yourself out of any incoming enemy attacks and into a better position to counter attack.

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#38 UgaT
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if you want challenges then youve got the right game!!! A must Game in Ps3 & this is one of the reason i bought this Ps3
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#39 jhockey9
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Ninja Gaiden is easy. I beat all three versions. Just have patience and listen to the tips the other posters have given, and you will be fine.......even against those ghost fish (they are di**s though).
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#40 DMC2677
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Actually in GOW, you do block and parry into an immediate attack...and roll as well. It's games like DMC where you CAN'T block I enjoy, for the stlye is important and quick reflexes like NG. GOW is also a classic but either way...you can't go wrong with these franchises.
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#41 deebo_x
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[QUOTE="deebo_x"]

I've beaten NG, NGB, NGS and for both the xbox versions I used to roll as well when I was hit with one, but what I realized while playing Sigma you don't have to roll when hit with one all you have to do is just stand there and block and the shurikens do very little damage just try it.

jt4mtb

Yes, but I'd hope you'd know that timing it so it explodes at the beginning of the roll, you will take NO damage from the explosion (as you have invincible frames at the beginning of the roll). Not to mention if you just stay blocking when it goes off, it breaks your guard for a moment (which is a no-no against large groups, especially ninjas) and enemies will take advantage of that vulnerability. At least with the timed roll, you can maneuver yourself out of any incoming enemy attacks and into a better position to counter attack.

your technique is more complicated than mines. You take probably a 1/15 damage by just blocking yes it breaks your guard for a sec. but if you get some distance from the ninjas thats no problem. The things is not to get hit at all by the shurikens, by using the charge jump cut in air or off the wall. Its just easier just to block after getting hit with the shuriken than trying to time your roll with the explosion I don't see too many people being able to master that.

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#42 jt4mtb
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your technique is more complicated than mines. You take probably a 1/15 damage by just blocking yes it breaks your guard for a sec. but if you get some distance from the ninjas thats no problem. The things is not to get hit at all by the shurikens, by using the charge jump cut in air or off the wall. Its just easier just to block after getting hit with the shuriken than trying to time your roll with the explosion I don't see too many people being able to master that.

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It's not really that complicated. The timing on when the incendiary shurikens explode is always the same; from when you are hit to the explosion is ~2 seconds. The spider ninjas don't normally throw them from long range, so whenever you're hit by one you're going to be near some enemy. And that 2 seconds isn't all that much time for you to get much distance from enemies (especially with how fast most of them can move) and keep the block up for when the explosion occurs. Not to mention you're leaving yourself vulnerable to a 'grab and stab', which you can't stop by just blocking, but can avoid if you're rolling out of the way.

Of course you can avoid this by not getting hit by shurikens; but remember, not everyone can play flawlessly all of the time. My advice is for if the situation comes up as such. Also, whenever I give advice to someone, I do it with the intent to help the person not only get through the part they are stuck at, but also to improve how they play.

Understanding the invincibility you have in rolls helps a lot later through the game. For example when you are fighting groups of soldiers and they're all shooting at you, you can only block so many bullets before your guard breaks. If they're still shooting when that happens, you'll be eating lead. Using the roll, you can roll in through a series of bullets and close the distance to the enemy so you can dispatch them.

Regardless in the end, I just hope we've helped the TC (and anyone else reading the thread) with playing NG. Ultimately it's up to them whether to do just enough to beat the game, or learning to play better and maybe trying the game on harder challenges.