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#1 soundthealarm
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what's the best bet? what are the pros and cons of each? I hear lcd has clouding issues, but don't plasmas have a "life expectency"? I need some guiding
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LCD is better for gaming. Plasmas are more prone to burn-ins; although, recent plasmas are less prone to burn- ins now.
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I heard LCD are better for smaller TVs and Plasmas are better for the larger sizes.  Don't quote me on that though.
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http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5108443-1.html?tag=main.understand

I found this on Cnet it might help you decide...

I went with the plasma....

 

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Plasmas are a lot better these days but also expensive. LCD's still have that ghost effect but good price. I have a 42" plasma and its great blacks are good and whites. You dont have to worry about burn in effect unless you pause the game for like 2hrs and the life of a plasma is 6 to 8 years.
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#6 soundthealarm
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what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?
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#7 Crazy87
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Plasmas are better better contrast a LCD cant display 10000:1 is very great better picture better colors the picture will look better on a plasmas are cheeper and you can get a big 1080p every one says lcds are better cause of burn-ins and burn-ins are pretty much non existaned any more i got a 42" 720p plasma and from the day i got it ive been playing nothing but games and no burn-ins at all i got it 2 years ago
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#8 GoldenEye005
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I heard LCD are better for smaller TVs and Plasmas are better for the larger sizes.  Don't quote me on that though.Handin

Yea if you go 40" or more plasmas are better but like I said their expensive. Oh and not many 1080p plasmas around so you might have to settle for 720p/1080i set which still looks awsome.

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what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?soundthealarm

 

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years

 

nevermind looked it up they last about the same some say they last longer like 80,000 hours if kept in good standards but doubt it so there the same plasma looks better burn-ins are gone by now 

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easy: LCD for games , Plasma for movies.
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easy: LCD for games , Plasma for movies.trasherhead

arent plasmas better than LCDs for games as they have faster response times and higher ratios which is really good for fast games and movies

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#12 Crazy87
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]easy: LCD for games , Plasma for movies.arabi_89

arent plasmas better than LCDs for games as they have faster response times and higher ratios which is really good for fast games and movies

correct plasmas are much better then lcds right now but ppl think lcds are better cause they dont have burn-ins lmfao but plasmas dont even have that any more just watch tv when you get it for like 2 days and there ya go 

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to add a bit about burn-ins, it is a bit of a problem on plasmas still.  it's not as big as some have made it out to be, but it still does occur.  a friend of mine has guitar hero II on the 360 and after playing it for about an hour there was a noticeable burn in of the "rock meter."  so keep in mind that this will occur in other games, especially sports games that always have the score box or FPS that have inventory and health meters or what not - not just from someone pausing the game and coming back to it an hour later.  having said that, it didn't take a very long time for the burn in to disappear but it certainly is obvious to anyone, especially if you watch tv afterwards.
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i have to agree. i believe id go with lcd for games just because of the risk of burn ins with the plasma. stick with LCD for games.
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I vote DLP

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to add a bit about burn-ins, it is a bit of a problem on plasmas still.  it's not as big as some have made it out to be, but it still does occur.  a friend of mine has guitar hero II on the 360 and after playing it for about an hour there was a noticeable burn in of the "rock meter."  so keep in mind that this will occur in other games, especially sports games that always have the score box or FPS that have inventory and health meters or what not - not just from someone pausing the game and coming back to it an hour later.  having said that, it didn't take a very long time for the burn in to disappear but it certainly is obvious to anyone, especially if you watch tv afterwards.phantas777

this is very true

my brother has a plasma and i took my PS3 to his house and we were playing resistance for about an hour or two on easter and the reticle and radar and health meter burned in pretty good and he said that it didnt go away for about 3-4 days and he started freaking out about it

also it is not an old tv

he got it for his birthday last month and they use it alot

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[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?Crazy87

 

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years

 

nevermind looked it up they last about the same some say they last longer like 80,000 hours if kept in good standards but doubt it so there the same plasma looks better burn-ins are gone by now

 

Thats viewing hours.  So it will last for 3 years of viewing time before the picture is noticeably less bright.  Solets say you watch it for 4 hours a day every day.  It would theoretically last 20 years.

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to add a bit about burn-ins, it is a bit of a problem on plasmas still. it's not as big as some have made it out to be, but it still does occur. a friend of mine has guitar hero II on the 360 and after playing it for about an hour there was a noticeable burn in of the "rock meter." so keep in mind that this will occur in other games, especially sports games that always have the score box or FPS that have inventory and health meters or what not - not just from someone pausing the game and coming back to it an hour later. having said that, it didn't take a very long time for the burn in to disappear but it certainly is obvious to anyone, especially if you watch tv afterwards.phantas777
That's called temporary image retention. Burn-in is permanent image retention, which plasmas don't suffer from that much anymore.
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Thats a ghost image, not burn in.
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If you are going like 40 inches plus then go for plasma for image quality..  make sure you get a plasma that actually has 1080p support because some of them have lame 1024 line resolutions.  For less money, you can get a smaller LCD under 40 inches with probably a high resolution... the contrast will not be as good and the colors will be more washed out on the LCD... but it will look clear and it will be more affordable.

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[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?Crazy87

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years

nevermind looked it up they last about the same some say they last longer like 80,000 hours if kept in good standards but doubt it so there the same plasma looks better burn-ins are gone by now

The thing about LCDs is that the lifespan is cut in half if you turn up the backlight to brighten the picture, because LCDs rely on LED backlights for their brighness. Some LCD models allow you to replace the backlights yourself (I think some Sharp TVs do), while others require you to send it in.
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[QUOTE="Crazy87"]

[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?mjarantilla

 

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years

 

nevermind looked it up they last about the same some say they last longer like 80,000 hours if kept in good standards but doubt it so there the same plasma looks better burn-ins are gone by now

The thing about LCDs is that the lifespan is cut in half if you turn up the backlight to brighten the picture, because LCDs rely on LED backlights for their brighness. Some LCD models allow you to replace the backlights yourself (I think some Sharp TVs do), while others require you to send it in.

 

Plasmas and LCDs last the exact same amount of time given similar conditions.  They will easily last over 10 years without losing enough brightness to make a difference.  I really hope you replace your television at least once every 10 years.  This thread is so full of misinformation it is sad.  At the same size, a good plasma will look better than a good LCD in terms of any measure of PQ possible. 

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Crazy87"]

[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?BroweChisox

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years

nevermind looked it up they last about the same some say they last longer like 80,000 hours if kept in good standards but doubt it so there the same plasma looks better burn-ins are gone by now

The thing about LCDs is that the lifespan is cut in half if you turn up the backlight to brighten the picture, because LCDs rely on LED backlights for their brighness. Some LCD models allow you to replace the backlights yourself (I think some Sharp TVs do), while others require you to send it in.

Plasmas and LCDs last the exact same amount of time given similar conditions. They will easily last over 10 years without losing enough brightness to make a difference. I really hope you replace your television at least once every 10 years. This thread is so full of misinformation it is sad. At the same size, a good plasma will look better than a good LCD in terms of any measure of PQ possible.

I'm not sure where there's misinformation in my post. :|
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Plasma, you must be very very irresponsible to turn the tv off, or have no life and use the television 24/7 to create burn-in's
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i'm more inclined to get an LCD based on everything i've read. i know that plasma is "better" but it still seems like LCD is better for gaming
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[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Crazy87"]

[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?mjarantilla

 

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years

 

nevermind looked it up they last about the same some say they last longer like 80,000 hours if kept in good standards but doubt it so there the same plasma looks better burn-ins are gone by now

The thing about LCDs is that the lifespan is cut in half if you turn up the backlight to brighten the picture, because LCDs rely on LED backlights for their brighness. Some LCD models allow you to replace the backlights yourself (I think some Sharp TVs do), while others require you to send it in.

 

Plasmas and LCDs last the exact same amount of time given similar conditions. They will easily last over 10 years without losing enough brightness to make a difference. I really hope you replace your television at least once every 10 years. This thread is so full of misinformation it is sad. At the same size, a good plasma will look better than a good LCD in terms of any measure of PQ possible.

I'm not sure where there's misinformation in my post. :|

Not you, I was just too lazy to go back and get the original post.  You had an informative post. 

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Get an LCD dude, plasmas suck they die after 5 years, LCD's last ages
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My opinion is way less technical...

 

I was playing on a 720p plasma (Panasonic, I think it's 55 inch... a decent set that was rated fairly well on CNet for the price range).  I just recently got a 50inch 1080p Samsung DLP.  Both were good enough for me to be honest.  But one thing that I did notice is that the DLP looks better... not necessarily because of the 1080p (most games are at 720 anyhow), but because it doesn't have that thicker glass glare that a Plasma has.  I believe LCD's don't have that thick glass plate either.

 

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My opinion is way less technical...

I was playing on a 720p plasma (Panasonic, I think it's 55 inch... a decent set that was rated fairly well on CNet for the price range). I just recently got a 50inch 1080p Samsung DLP. Both were good enough for me to be honest. But one thing that I did notice is that the DLP looks better... not necessarily because of the 1080p (most games are at 720 anyhow), but because it doesn't have that thicker glass glare that a Plasma has. I believe LCD's don't have that thick glass plate either.

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Yeah, glare is a problem on plasmas. But ideally, you'd be playing in a room with as little ambient light as possible, anyway.
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ive got plasma and my bro has lcd and i think plasma is better since it gives you a more natural looking picture more like your crt ..lcd tv's' look just like a big computer monitor.

but lcd does'nt have burn in but if you know what your doing with plasma you can prevent your tv from ever having burn in.

i would suggest going to your store and looking for yourself...

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I noticed that no-one mentioned that Plasma TV's have glare issues unlike LCD TV's which doesn't,so that means if you plan on putting your TV in an area with alot of sunlight then your best bet is to get an LCD TV.
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Plasmas are a lot better these days but also expensive. LCD's still have that ghost effect but good price. I have a 42" plasma and its great blacks are good and whites. You dont have to worry about burn in effect unless you pause the game for like 2hrs and the life of a plasma is 6 to 8 years.GoldenEye005
mine has a life of 25+years.
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Ps. i stand corrected
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Take LCD cuz it is simply better but it is more expensive than plasmas and by the way a lot of companies are gonna stop produce plasmas cuz a lot of problems...if you want to connect your laptop to your tv LCD is better if you want to play games LCD and if you want to HD movies its also better...."For a long time it was widely believed that LCD technology was suited only to smaller sized flat-panel televisions, and could not compete with plasma technology at sizes of 40" or larger. At the time, plasma held the edge in cost and performance. This belief has been undermined by the announcements of seventh-generation panels by major manufacturers such as Samsung, Sony, LG-Philips LCD, Westinghouse Digital, and Sharp Corporation"

Improvements in LCD technology have narrowed the technological gap with plasmas. The lower weight, falling prices, higher available resolution which is crucial for HDTV, and lower electrical power consumption of LCDs make them competitive against plasma displays in the television set market. As of late 2006, analysts note that LCDs are overtaking plasmas, particularly in the important 40" and above segment where plasma had enjoyed strong dominance a couple of years before.

source: wikipedia encyclopedia

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what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?soundthealarm
Well if it didnt have a life expectancy, it wouldnt work from the beginning!
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what's the best bet? what are the pros and cons of each? I hear lcd has clouding issues, but don't plasmas have a "life expectency"? I need some guidingsoundthealarm


I would definitely do some research into it, but if you want my advice. DO NOT get a Plasma. It's not worth the money when compared to LCD. The difference between a Plasma isn't enough to justify paying more and the life expectancy plays a big part. Short life spans on Plasmas. LCD's have a much longer life span and even when the lamp goes out, you can replace it. When you pay thousands of dollars for a TV, it shouldn't have life span issues.
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As an above poster mentioned - consider DLP.  Also, look on Cnet for a buying guide and tech guide.  Trust them for consumer electronics.

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[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the best bet? what are the pros and cons of each? I hear lcd has clouding issues, but don't plasmas have a "life expectency"? I need some guiding_AsasN_


I would definitely do some research into it, but if you want my advice. DO NOT get a Plasma. It's not worth the money when compared to LCD. The difference between a Plasma isn't enough to justify paying more and the life expectancy plays a big part. Short life spans on Plasmas. LCD's have a much longer life span and even when the lamp goes out, you can replace it. When you pay thousands of dollars for a TV, it shouldn't have life span issues.

Short lifespans? Everyone here who knows anything has reiterated the fact that BOTH plasmas and LCDs can easily last 10+ years. :roll:
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LCD #1

 

 

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Get an LCD dude, plasmas suck they die after 5 years, LCD's last agesGame_Lover70

 

ahhaa this guy has no idea what he's talkin about.

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[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the best bet? what are the pros and cons of each? I hear lcd has clouding issues, but don't plasmas have a "life expectency"? I need some guiding_AsasN_


I would definitely do some research into it, but if you want my advice. DO NOT get a Plasma. It's not worth the money when compared to LCD. The difference between a Plasma isn't enough to justify paying more and the life expectancy plays a big part. Short life spans on Plasmas. LCD's have a much longer life span and even when the lamp goes out, you can replace it. When you pay thousands of dollars for a TV, it shouldn't have life span issues.

 

How long do you need your tv to last? 10-15 years is more then enough unless you are dirt cheap. Pricewise, you can get a 42" Pioneer Elite for ~$2000 with some shopping around. This is easily the best plasma under 50" on the market.  The best 40" or so LCDs run about $2500 ore more (Sony XBR2/3 line, Sammy LN-T65/66F line, multitude of options from Sharp).

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[QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the life expectency of lcd? or does it not have one?Crazy87

 

plasmas last about 30,000 - 60,000 hours 30,000 hours is 3 years and 60,000 is 6 years LCDs last a bit longer i think by like 2-3 years



60,000 hours is 6 years? You would have to watch over 200 hours of TV a week to get only 6 years out of your TV before it reached 1/2 brightness.  FYI there aren't 200 hours in a week!  :roll:
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[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="soundthealarm"]what's the best bet? what are the pros and cons of each? I hear lcd has clouding issues, but don't plasmas have a "life expectency"? I need some guidingmjarantilla


I would definitely do some research into it, but if you want my advice. DO NOT get a Plasma. It's not worth the money when compared to LCD. The difference between a Plasma isn't enough to justify paying more and the life expectancy plays a big part. Short life spans on Plasmas. LCD's have a much longer life span and even when the lamp goes out, you can replace it. When you pay thousands of dollars for a TV, it shouldn't have life span issues.

Short lifespans? Everyone here who knows anything has reiterated the fact that BOTH plasmas and LCDs can easily last 10+ years. :roll:

 

you know how it is here man, a bunch of mis-informed people.  LCd is pretty good, i have both, but nothing beats the B&C ratios of a plasma....well besides good ole CRT;s.

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From the FAQ sticky:

Read the HDTV Guide V2.0. There are many questions about the Playstation 3 and HDTV. That thread will probably answer any questions you have, if not feel free to post in that thread. Please do not post new threads about HDTV. As much as HDTV has to do with the Playstation 3 we've found HDTV threads can overwhelm the forum and really they're about HDTV and this is a Playstation 3 forum. Thus the thread.