PS2 out selling PS3 whats the heck is going on!

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#1 vip_kass
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    I can't believe there that many gamers out there who still don't own one? I mean where are these people coming from? I guess price does make a huge impact on what people will buy. Why else would the cheapest 3rd Gen the Wii have such high sells. I'm not a gaming analyest but this can't be a what Sony was hoping for.                      

                               NPD LTD

Wii = 435,503                                           1.5 mm

PS2 = 299,352                                          37.4mm

360 = 293,744                                           4.8mm

PS3 = 243,554                                           937k

DS = 238,869 since nobody reads my posts Reggie said that they werent able to ship enough DS's to the US.  Retailers werent even getting restocked until the last half of the month.  He also said the shipments wouldnt return to normal until march.                                   

                                                            DS  9.4mm

PSP = 210,719                                           6.9mm

GBA = 179,482                                          35.3mm

CUBE = 33,806                                         11.7mm

XBOX = 833                                             14.5mm

___________

Games

360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR
360 GEARS OF WAR
WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES
WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS
PS2 MADDEN NFL 07
GCN LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS
PS3 RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN
360 TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS

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#2 toemayo
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Since 07'? Or last quarter in 06?
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#3 Ultimate-Playa
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You forget that PS3 isn't released in Europe yet.
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#4 vip_kass
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Extended January reporting period sees $505 million in hardware, $549 million in software move in five weeks;
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#5 Not-A-Stalker
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Guitar Hero 2 is the reason
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#6 Ultimate-Playa
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Extended January reporting period sees $505 million in hardware, $549 million in software move in five weeks;vip_kass
Also you forget that, PS3 just launched it will be getting great softwares soon just like when the Xbox 360 launched it didn't have Triple-AAA games on it's first day, same old story with PS3, too with Wii.
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#7 mjf249
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Because truth be told, despite it being almost seven years old, it's the best god damn console available.
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#8 rahzel54
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You forget that PS3 isn't released in Europe yet. Ultimate-Playa
and the PS2's library is 20x larger as well as 5-6x cheaper. the more PS2's sold, the more PS fans that will convert to the PS3 eventually.
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#9 vip_kass
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I was thing about that but since its going to cost them more then everyone else due to the "Euro" how much help to you realy thing there ging to bring? I'm guessing only the hard Core are going to be buying for alreast the first year. But who knows maybe I'm wrong and Europe is Sony savor.
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#10 Ultimate-Playa
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I was thing about that but since its going to cost them more then everyone else due to the "Euro" how much help to you realy thing there ging to bring? I'm guessing only the hard Core are going to be buying for alreast the first year. But who knows maybe I'm wrong and Europe is Sony savor.vip_kass
Nah, the prices will be balanced from the Euros to Dollars. They just don't have hollywood.
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#11 chembro84
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You forget that PS3 isn't released in Europe yet. Ultimate-Playa
Once again, these are US only numbers, no Japan, no Europe
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#12 vip_kass
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I hear you there, it is the SH*T.Could it be that since the PS2 so good that its hurting Sony more then anything else? I mean its seems to put out graphics as good as the Wii and its less then half the price.
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#13 trav_have
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You forget that PS3 isn't released in Europe yet. Ultimate-Playa
Exactly. Plus Sony mentioned they dont even care about whats really happening now. They are looking toward the future.
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#14 Ultimate-Playa
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]You forget that PS3 isn't released in Europe yet. chembro84
Once again, these are US only numbers, no Japan, no Europe

PS3 is still much in it's infancy, Xbox 360 didn't sell like wildfire when it was first released, it experienced shortages, systems breaking down, crap games etc etc.
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#15 mjf249
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I was thing about that but since its going to cost them more then everyone else due to the "Euro" how much help to you realy thing there ging to bring? I'm guessing only the hard Core are going to be buying for alreast the first year. But who knows maybe I'm wrong and Europe is Sony savor.vip_kass


There's high-demand for it in Europe, and I am sure it will sell rather well. The European launch will go over much smoother than the North American, and Japanese launch. Better games will be out for it.
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Because truth be told, despite it being almost seven years old, it's the best god damn console available.
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AMEN! Now its time for the PS3 to take over!
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#17 vip_kass
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Sure they are but lets be real the PS2 gaem sells in Europe on stronger there then in the US so I wouldn' think there going to be a huge differents once the PS3 hits there stores.
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#18 kingtito
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[QUOTE="chembro84"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]You forget that PS3 isn't released in Europe yet. Ultimate-Playa
Once again, these are US only numbers, no Japan, no Europe

PS3 is still much in it's infancy, Xbox 360 didn't sell like wildfire when it was first released, it experienced shortages, systems breaking down, crap games etc etc.

Umm yes it did sell and infact you couldn't find a 360 for months.

Let's face it, price IS a big concern for most people that's why the PS2 is still selling so well. If the PS3 was cheaper it would probably sell better, I'm sure of it.

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#19 kingtito
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Sure they are but lets be real the PS2 gaem sells in Europe on stronger there then in the US so I wouldn' think there going to be a huge differents once the PS3 hits there stores.vip_kass

Hardcore gamers and Sony fanboys will buy the PS3 when it launches in Europe but what about the casual player? Until Sony drops the price it'll always be behind the PS2, Wii and 360.

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#20 vip_kass
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They might not care but all the developers do! Why do you think there losing so many exclusives like Virtual Fighter 5! If there aren’t enough consoles out there this year or next then these guys will jump ship just to make sure they can sell as many games as possible. That was the beauty of the PS2 it has huge numbers so the sky is the limit for game sells.
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#21 Radiozo
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Go Nintendo! :D
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#22 vip_kass
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yeah I'm sure your right about that. However I still see the Euro gamers buying a ton of PS2 games. I mean there numbers are way higher then any other country. I mean the soccer games sells are crazy! So I could see then sticking with PS2 for some time.
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#23 Ultimate-Playa
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Go Nintendo! :D
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I hope you get banned.
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#24 vip_kass
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[QUOTE="Radiozo"]Go Nintendo! :D
Ultimate-Playa
I hope you get banned.

Come on its his Opinion , we all can love one system more then another but getting people kick off for simply having a different Opinion is lame.
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    I can't believe there that many gamers out there who still don't own one? I mean where are these people coming from? I guess price does make a huge impact on what people will buy. Why else would the cheapest 3rd Gen the Wii have such high sells. I'm not a gaming analyest but this can't be a what Sony was hoping for.                      

                               NPD LTD

Wii = 435,503                                           1.5 mm

PS2 = 299,352                                          37.4mm

360 = 293,744                                           4.8mm

PS3 = 243,554                                           937k

DS = 238,869 since nobody reads my posts Reggie said that they werent able to ship enough DS's to the US.  Retailers werent even getting restocked until the last half of the month.  He also said the shipments wouldnt return to normal until march.                                   

                                                            DS  9.4mm

PSP = 210,719                                           6.9mm

GBA = 179,482                                          35.3mm

CUBE = 33,806                                         11.7mm

XBOX = 833                                             14.5mm

___________

Games

360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR
360 GEARS OF WAR
WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES
WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS
PS2 MADDEN NFL 07
GCN LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS
PS3 RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN
360 TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS

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I'm guessing it's because they are (the gaming industry) getting new players to play video games so the Sony PlayStation 2 is thee console to get into. I can't say the same for the Microsoft (1st) XBOX because they abandoned their last console for what reason I don't know. With that said they're still making games for that console exclusives like God of War II (2) to games that are on next - gen like Spider - Man 3. That is why I think Sony is smart because their next - gen console is really expensive yet you have an option to  get a Sony PlayStation 2 for a lot less with games available on both (Sony PlayStation 3 and Sony PlayStation 2).

The Nintendo company also didn't abandon their console at the same time don't have as much games as the Sony PlayStation 2 does. Plus when people are ready to move to next - gen their favourite games can be played on the Sony PlayStation 3 which is an advantage over Microsoft XBOX 360. Honestly it is amazing of the amount of games made for the Sony consoles over the years that can be played on the Sony PlayStation 3 it is like redefining a gaming console.

With the new slim design of the PlayStation 2 over the other console of that generation will intrigue people to buy it.

So it's like the Sony company is saying, complaining about the price point of the Sony PlayStation 3 then buy the Sony PlayStation 2 we're still making games for it. When you're ready to move to the next - gen you'll still be able to play those games and then some.

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#26 Radiozo
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You should be happy that Sony sells a lot of PS2's. At least they make money of of selling those as compared to PS3 where they lose a couple of hundred bucks per unit.
Its money that gets invested back into the PS3 so I cant really see anything bad about the PS2 doing so well.
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#27 vip_kass
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You should be happy that Sony sells a lot of PS2's. At least they make money of of selling those as compared to PS3 where they lose a couple of hundred bucks per unit.
Its money that gets invested back into the PS3 so I cant really see anything bad about the PS2 doing so well.
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Yes, and No. If PS2 gamers stick to there PS2 for as long as possible to make sure there can still get its exclusives and then buy a different next gen like Wii or 360 then they could be another Dreamcast, right?
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#28 TE_Lawrence
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Why are people even wasting time on vip_kass when he's obviously a pathetic troll crusading for Nintendo? :? VF5 a 1? Winning Eleven a 2.1?
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#29 vip_kass
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[QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"]Why are people even wasting time on vip_kass when he's obviously a pathetic troll crusading for Nintendo? :? VF5 a 1? Winning Eleven a 2.1?

What ever your a joke kid! I have a PS3, Ps2, and a PS1. I do own a Wii but its been a waist of time since all the games I play are Gamecube like RE4. But you go ahead and call me a troll, like I made this stuff up? Your one of those guys that a really simple minded and don't like to think outside the box. Never question anyone or anythink right.
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#30 Xanog1
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The fact that the PS2 is massively owning all three next-gen console should definetly be a dead giveaway that it isn't bad for a next-gen system (especially one in relatively short supply that launched just three months ago) to be outsold by a system with a games library in the thousands.
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[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"]Why are people even wasting time on vip_kass when he's obviously a pathetic troll crusading for Nintendo? :? VF5 a 1? Winning Eleven a 2.1?

What ever your a joke kid! I have a PS3, Ps2, and a PS1. I do own a Wii but its been a waist of time since all the games I play are Gamecube like RE4. But you go ahead and call me a troll, like I made this stuff up? Your one of those guys that a really simple minded and don't like to think outside the box. Never question anyone or anythink right.

I'm not the one scoring games a 1 or trolls around. Claiming to own all consoles doesn't change facts that you are a fanboy and according to your posting history a blind one.
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[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"]Why are people even wasting time on vip_kass when he's obviously a pathetic troll crusading for Nintendo? :? VF5 a 1? Winning Eleven a 2.1?

What ever your a joke kid! I have a PS3, Ps2, and a PS1. I do own a Wii but its been a waist of time since all the games I play are Gamecube like RE4. But you go ahead and call me a troll, like I made this stuff up? Your one of those guys that a really simple minded and don't like to think outside the box. Never question anyone or anythink right.

Say whatever you want. Your profile says it all. Who gives VF5 a 1??? Your just a troll. Please leave.
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#33 vip_kass
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[QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"]Why are people even wasting time on vip_kass when he's obviously a pathetic troll crusading for Nintendo? :? VF5 a 1? Winning Eleven a 2.1?

What ever your a joke kid! I have a PS3, Ps2, and a PS1. I do own a Wii but its been a waist of time since all the games I play are Gamecube like RE4. But you go ahead and call me a troll, like I made this stuff up? Your one of those guys that a really simple minded and don't like to think outside the box. Never question anyone or anythink right.

I'm not the one scoring games a 1 or trolls around. Claiming to own all consoles doesn't change facts that you are a fanboy and according to your posting history a blind one.

No online and I got to the last figher in the game while I was playing in the STORE!!! I loved that gaem like 3 years ago but it hasn't change one bit. Its not a slam on Sonly but rather one on Saga who hasn't made a good game in years. I give it a one one the 360 too if I can beat the whole game in one setting.
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#34 kingalphagold
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The PS2 still rocks, and it has a low price tag.
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#35 benjaminjoel
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This is exactly what happened with the PS1 redesign...
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[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"]Why are people even wasting time on vip_kass when he's obviously a pathetic troll crusading for Nintendo? :? VF5 a 1? Winning Eleven a 2.1?TE_Lawrence
What ever your a joke kid! I have a PS3, Ps2, and a PS1. I do own a Wii but its been a waist of time since all the games I play are Gamecube like RE4. But you go ahead and call me a troll, like I made this stuff up? Your one of those guys that a really simple minded and don't like to think outside the box. Never question anyone or anythink right.

I'm not the one scoring games a 1 or trolls around. Claiming to own all consoles doesn't change facts that you are a fanboy and according to your posting history a blind one.

good find, the troll just got owned... ooh my, the "I got PS3" again. @VIP_Kass Dude **** off, **** people like you screw up score for a good game and others opinion. If you don't play it, dont bash it.
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#38 GloverD
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PS1 outsold PS2 some weeks up to 6-7 months after launch
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#40 Theempire30
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Wow only 833 Xbox sold.
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#41 chubear700
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You do realise that there are millions of the original Xbox owners that aren't ready to move on to current gen and since MS has killed off the Xbox, their owners are now also getting the PS2 which is cheap and a vastly different gaming experience for the xbox. Since support for the PS2 will continue like the PS1 for the next 4 to 5 more years, these gamers have new games to play as well as older games they haven't played too. Chances are when they are ready to make the jump to current gen, a lot of them may very well go with the PS3. MS just didn't have the foresight for this at all.
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#42 dragonwiz0d
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after the european release and maybe a price drop it will get a bunch of units sold. sony can sell in all three major gaming areas (north america, europe, and japan) they will put some pressure on microsoft soon.
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#43 chubear700
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PS1 outsold PS2 some weeks up to 6-7 months after launchGloverD
Thank you for stating that cause it seems there are a hell of a lot of gamers on this forum that are just to young to remember things like this.
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#44 ellokodejerez
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Yeah, there is more PS2s out there than there is PS3s. Thas because PS3 isnt out in Europe.
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#45 chubear700
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Who is going to pay for $600 console with no AAA's? Sony should have learned with the PSP, hardware doesnt make the system, its the software. Why go after the tech junkies when the causual gamers make up a much larger share of the market. So far, Sony has made every wrong move. Luckily this is just the begining of the console war. acviper123
Dude, in 2 years the PSP as managed to sell over 22 million units. That's over 10 million per year, that's just shy of the 25 million xboxes MS sold in over 5 years and that was an actual console. People who know what the PS3 is about will buy it even all the haters too so naff off.
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[QUOTE="acviper123"]Who is going to pay for $600 console with no AAA's? Sony should have learned with the PSP, hardware doesnt make the system, its the software. Why go after the tech junkies when the causual gamers make up a much larger share of the market. So far, Sony has made every wrong move. Luckily this is just the begining of the console war. chubear700
Dude, in 2 years the PSP as managed to sell over 22 million units. That's over 10 million per year, that's just shy of the 25 million xboxes MS sold in over 5 years and that was an actual console. People who know what the PS3 is about will buy it even all the haters too so naff off.

Dude, no disrespect intended. I own a Ps1, Ps2, PSP, and froze my butt off to get a PS3, being such a fan makes me a bit concerned about where Sony is headed. I was just expresing that even though Sony has had success in the handheld market, they are not #1, and I have higher expectations for the PS3 than that, so I think Sony needs to focus on the games.

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#47 WedgeAntilles07
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Who is going to pay for $600 console with no AAA's? Sony should have learned with the PSP, hardware doesnt make the system, its the software. Why go after the tech junkies when the causual gamers make up a much larger share of the market. So far, Sony has made every wrong move. Luckily this is just the begining of the console war. acviper123
no AAA what about the future games like formula one(which is coming soon and the demo is awesome) and MGS4,gt 5, GOW 2, Motorstorm, and many others i dont know, but now im satisfied with the demos even though i dont play it too often, look towards the future who knows what awaits
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#49 carcrazy426
Member since 2005 • 1842 Posts

So what if the PS2 outsells the PS3?

Right now, the PS2 is the best bet for any gamer out there. It's only $130, has a huge software library full of every type of game you could want, you can buy most of the games for under $30, and the console and games are in stock everywhere. Plus there will be software support till the end of this year. It may not have all of the latest and greatest next gen titles (of which there are very few), but for a casual gamer who is not willing to pay $250-$600 to jump into the next gen, it's perfect.

Besides, it's not like it's hurting Sony or anything. They make money on every console sold, unlike the way they lose money on every PS3. It and the PSP are the only thing's keeping their game division from losing more than they are losing now.

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#50 TJSAGE
Member since 2006 • 3540 Posts
I think PS2 is still the best system out and has the chance to come in top 3 systems for 07

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