PS3 720p vs 1080p question

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

What you need to understand is what I post is 100% fact, dont believe me, then your quite welcome to go over the AV forums and post this thread over there and see what the 'expets' say. Otherwise, if you dont have any knowledge, then dont comment on something you know nothing about.

shawty1984

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"] I tried to find some "expets" on the AVforums but I could only find experts and they all agree with me :)

BaconB1ts123

say ps3 killzone 2 at 720p...... compare with 360 game that claim 1080p..... which look better? !!!!!!!!

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sometimes theres marketing strategy. say a game that is 720p but it can be scaled to 1080p..... the game will say 1080p. know im saying?

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most games do 720p. most tv is 720p. few 1080p. fguture probly gonna be all 1080p.

i used to got this hdtv and some games it will auto upscale to 1080p but i cant tell the differnce from any 720p. cause the tv is native 720p. which means a native 720p... even if a game says 1080p.... inside is still 720p. must have 1080p tv on 1080p games to have true 1080p. jus some fact for you people to know.

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

And your willing to prove that are you?

shawty1984

Lol...nice one. Everyone here gets it but him. I gave it a shot in the other thread, but it just falls on deaf ears. I can understand why he likes a small screen, but he just doesn't care to acknowledge that our reasoning behind liking large screens is just as valid. If he loves his 24" monitor at "the correct viewing distance," then good for him. I'm glad that he's happy with his choice. Maybe someday when he is able to have a larger screen he'll see things differently.NiHM

as said, it's simply because consoles lack the power to run games in 1080p, unless it's some game that is otherwise graphically lighter.

wich is a little shame really, cos console games look pretty ugly with 720p on anything bigger than 32". they have to cut down graphics from elsewhere too with modern game engines, but they propably usually start with keeping the game in 720p. and they keep "downgrading" until they hit the 30fps (or something) sweetspot.

hi guys, i'm a console newbie and i've been trying to figure out these resolutions too, but i'm pretty confused so far. if you don't mind, i would like to ask a few questions here. some of which might have been discussed in this thread so please bear with me -

1. there's native resolution and there's upscaled resolution. a poster here said that the native resolution is the lowest one listed on the back of the game box. but the manual states "Video will automatically be output at the highest resolution possible for the content you are playing". so, by default, which resolution will my screen render?

2. to upscale is to render graphics sharper than a game's native resolution, right? so what do i need to do manually to upscale the resolution and what are the cons? (black bar, lower fps, etc)

2. speaking of screen... mine is actually a 21" pc lcd monitor that supports full HD and HDCP. the video output setting confirmed it. but what do i need to do ensure the BEST resolution which both the game and the screen are capable of? any other settings to temper with, perhaps?

3. now this is pretty subjective.... when i'm playing MGS4 and Demon's Souls (native resolution of both is 720p), i notice quite a bit of rough edges. is that supposed to be normal? i'm not saying they look ugly. but if there are other garphic options i might give it a try.

thanks for your replies, guys.

[QUOTE="NiHM"]Lol...nice one. Everyone here gets it but him. I gave it a shot in the other thread, but it just falls on deaf ears. I can understand why he likes a small screen, but he just doesn't care to acknowledge that our reasoning behind liking large screens is just as valid. If he loves his 24" monitor at "the correct viewing distance," then good for him. I'm glad that he's happy with his choice. Maybe someday when he is able to have a larger screen he'll see things differently.BaconB1ts123

this is another thing which i don't understand... what's all this bickering about huge screen vs small screen? isn't the screen size the only difference?

1. it will render to the resolution stated in the back cover of the game, wich is usually 720p. even if your display settings on PS3 are 1080p.

2. upscaling on PS3, as far as i understand, is meant for movies only. even if you could upscale the game signal to 1080p, those jaggy edges would still be there; it doesn't change the game's resolution, just the signal.

the second 2 :P. set it for 1080p. that's the best for PS3. when starting a game, PS3 automatically sets the output signal to 720p, if the game doesn't support 1080p. your monitor might do even better than 1080p, but it doesn't matter, cos PS3 can't.

3. yes, that's normal. nothing you can do about it :/

[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"][QUOTE="NiHM"]Lol...nice one. Everyone here gets it but him. I gave it a shot in the other thread, but it just falls on deaf ears. I can understand why he likes a small screen, but he just doesn't care to acknowledge that our reasoning behind liking large screens is just as valid. If he loves his 24" monitor at "the correct viewing distance," then good for him. I'm glad that he's happy with his choice. Maybe someday when he is able to have a larger screen he'll see things differently.Jinroh_basic

this is another thing which i don't understand... what's all this bickering about huge screen vs small screen? isn't the screen size the only difference?

yes it is. but larger screen from the same distance means larger pixels. 50" with 1080p movies works great with "livingroom-distances" imo. still looks very sharp.

wow, thanks a mil :)

i used to got this hdtv and some games it will auto upscale to 1080p but i cant tell the differnce from any 720p. cause the tv is native 720p. which means a native 720p... even if a game says 1080p.... inside is still 720p. must have 1080p tv on 1080p games to have true 1080p. jus some fact for you people to know.

AskanTale

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"] Are what? Everyone agrees that playing on a big screen is better then sitting 2 ft in front of a 24" monitor. I have never met anyone that said "Man, I wish I could play on a little screen. That would be so cool!" I can't speak for every store but all the ones around here sell a lot of big screen tvs and don't have customers saying," Yeah it is a nice 50" screen but do you have it in 24" cause I like to sit right in front of it with my buddies sitting almost on top of me so they can squint at it too."

BaconB1ts123

Lol...nice one. Everyone here gets it but him. I gave it a shot in the other thread, but it just falls on deaf ears. I can understand why he likes a small screen, but he just doesn't care to acknowledge that our reasoning behind liking large screens is just as valid. If he loves his 24" monitor at "the correct viewing distance," then good for him. I'm glad that he's happy with his choice. Maybe someday when he is able to have a larger screen he'll see things differently.NiHM

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"][QUOTE="NiHM"]Lol...nice one. Everyone here gets it but him. I gave it a shot in the other thread, but it just falls on deaf ears. I can understand why he likes a small screen, but he just doesn't care to acknowledge that our reasoning behind liking large screens is just as valid. If he loves his 24" monitor at "the correct viewing distance," then good for him. I'm glad that he's happy with his choice. Maybe someday when he is able to have a larger screen he'll see things differently.Jinroh_basic

this is another thing which i don't understand... what's all this bickering about huge screen vs small screen? isn't the screen size the only difference?

[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

1. it will render to the resolution stated in the back cover of the game, wich is usually 720p. even if your display settings on PS3 are 1080p.

2. upscaling on PS3, as far as i understand, is meant for movies only. even if you could upscale the game signal to 1080p, those jaggy edges would still be there; it doesn't change the game's resolution, just the signal.

the second 2 :P. set it for 1080p. that's the best for PS3. when starting a game, PS3 automatically sets the output signal to 720p, if the game doesn't support 1080p. your monitor might do even better than 1080p, but it doesn't matter, cos PS3 can't.

3. yes, that's normal. nothing you can do about it :/

[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"] Yeah, don't get me wrong, I loved my 24" monitor when I was on work course but at home I want a big screen to enjoy movies and games. It only really annoys me because he posts on every forum how his monitor is just as good as a 50" tv.prowler666

this is another thing which i don't understand... what's all this bickering about huge screen vs small screen? isn't the screen size the only difference?

yes it is. but larger screen from the same distance means larger pixels. 50" with 1080p movies works great with "livingroom-distances" imo. still looks very sharp.

I get what you mean shawty, it really does depends how far away you will be sitting. So it would be pointless in buying a huge screen if your just going to be sitting just a few feet away from it.

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

So a no then? Thank you, thats all I wanted to know.

shawty1984

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"] Now you are just not making sense. AVSforums is my proof. I think you have lost the whole point. You obviously post/know AVSforums so just look there and see how many ppl are talking about playing on their 24" monitor in their bedroom. Go ahead, I will wait.

BaconB1ts123

This is what you said on another thread. -

"No one cares about your "viewing" distances."

You dont buy a big TV because its better, you buy one thats best for your viewing distances. That was my whole argument.

like i said before, when i set my ps3 to 1080p (theres checkboxes to set it for 480, 720, 1080) when i check only the box for 1080p, it looks better then 720p, considerably.