PS3, a waste

I think Metal Gear Solid 4 was dual layer.

EDIT: Ahah, didn't see that part of your post..

well because the 360 got a headstart on the PS3 game companies are still trying to work out how far they can push the PS3's limits.

so it will take a few more months before the really good games come out on PS3.

God of War 3 will be the first of many games to come that will push the PS3s limits.

and besides the PS3 will last until the next gen Microsoft console comes out.

u got it wrong, its 25GB and 50GB, not 20gbJoKeR_421

actually if the 360 did not exist then you would have a system with big potential and very happy gamers so yeh its a shame due to the space on the disc the 360 is limited to 8.54GBTX360

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Who cares as long as the games are good. The PS3 still has many years to reach it's full potential.Cody13_2012

well because the 360 got a headstart on the PS3 game companies are still trying to work out how far they can push the PS3's limits.

so it will take a few more months before the really good games come out on PS3.

God of War 3 will be the first of many games to come that will push the PS3s limits.

and besides the PS3 will last until the next gen Microsoft console comes out.

Wow, everyone accusing him of trolling is illiterate.Scianix-Black

lol

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]Who cares as long as the games are good. The PS3 still has many years to reach it's full potential.bluej33

[QUOTE="bluej33"][QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]Who cares as long as the games are good. The PS3 still has many years to reach it's full potential.Fyrmest

If you can't get sick of it then it has an extremely high replay value and so yes I would love it, but "maximizing" the capabilities of the PS3 doesn't have to refer to quality gameplay or length, it could just mean that they make the graphics and sound the best possible and graphics and sound are definately not the most important parts of games.

Most Sony exclucives use most of the gigs available from the BD. Most 3rd party multiplat game do not. The only one I can think of is Red Alert 3, it uses alot of the BD space.....plus all the BD movies.

well because the 360 got a headstart on the PS3 game companies are still trying to work out how far they can push the PS3's limits.

so it will take a few more months before the really good games come out on PS3.

God of War 3 will be the first of many games to come that will push the PS3s limits.

and besides the PS3 will last until the next gen Microsoft console comes out.

why are you calling the ps3 a waste if your argument is about the blu-ray disc?

why are you calling the ps3 a waste if your argument is about the blu-ray disc?

why are you calling the ps3 a waste if your argument is about the blu-ray disc?

The only problem with using more of the Blu Ray space for more games is the 2x Blu Ray drive. If most games used 40-50gb, we'd have massive installs for every game since the speed of the PS3 drive can't move that much data. You'd need a 500gb+ HDD or would have to install each game as you played it, which takes forever.

Next gen when the drives hit 8x to 12x, I'll be pulling for games to use the full disc space.

The only problem with using more of the Blu Ray space for more games is the 2x Blu Ray drive. If most games used 40-50gb, we'd have massive installs for every game since the speed of the PS3 drive can't move that much data. You'd need a 500gb+ HDD or would have to install each game as you played it, which takes forever.

Next gen when the drives hit 8x to 12x, I'll be pulling for games to use the full disc space.

The only problem with using more of the Blu Ray space for more games is the 2x Blu Ray drive. If most games used 40-50gb, we'd have massive installs for every game since the speed of the PS3 drive can't move that much data. You'd need a 500gb+ HDD or would have to install each game as you played it, which takes forever.

Next gen when the drives hit 8x to 12x, I'll be pulling for games to use the full disc space.

For my part I play games on my 360 but play movie and media (video, photo, music) on my PS3.

I dont like gaming on the PS3 prefered the Xbox controler. But the media system on the PS3 is awsome and with PS3 Media Center v1.04 its all I want for a media center machine.

I can't believe games out for PS3 are no difference with other platforms, it's such a waste of that big fat juicy 50GB Blu-Ray disc space and a huge shame. Look at MGS4 for example, filled up the disc, the gameplay was 'long enough' but with that kick-in movie seems like forever. Most games on PS3 I believe only use 10% of the disc space due to multi-platforming, when is the day gonna come when they start developing games (ill leave out killzone 2 since they might really be using up that huge space) exclusive to PS3? to really use up all that empty space. I have about a thousand music tracks and 22GB of movies which I could EASILY slap into the Assassins Creed Blu-Ray disc. There are two types of blu-ray discs that I read, a single layer 20GB and a 50GB dual layer and dual layer is confirmed for use on PS3, dont know about single layer but i doubt any games use it since sony doesnt like paying alot of money to distribute two types of blu-ray discs for companies.Fyrmest

I lol'd, I share the utmost of hate for that game.

well because the 360 got a headstart on the PS3 game companies are still trying to work out how far they can push the PS3's limits.

so it will take a few more months before the really good games come out on PS3.

God of War 3 will be the first of many games to come that will push the PS3s limits.

and besides the PS3 will last until the next gen Microsoft console comes out.

Venom_89_69

I guess you didn't play the Killzone 2 demo?

The only problem with using more of the Blu Ray space for more games is the 2x Blu Ray drive. If most games used 40-50gb, we'd have massive installs for every game since the speed of the PS3 drive can't move that much data. You'd need a 500gb+ HDD or would have to install each game as you played it, which takes forever.

Next gen when the drives hit 8x to 12x, I'll be pulling for games to use the full disc space.

Ok, I thought you were saying the PS3 itself was a waste. Bad wording but I get you. Resistance 1 was like 20 gigs and R2 was probably way more than that. Exclusive games are always using the extra space but not multiplatform, except for MLB2K8, which benefited from extra disc space (still inferior to all other baseball games but you get the point). It doesn't really matter how much space is filled as long as it is fun. :DChaos_Bladez

PS3 is not a waste but yes Blu Ray does not make games better.one_on_one

Video games went from an experiment, to a form of profit, then to an art form, and then back to profit.

I mean, that's how I see it, anyway... so of course people are going to worry about money and not making good games. Kojima said it himself, with the whole "people aren't making good games anymore, just games that bring in moolah."

It's too bad, though. Maybe if Sony had thought about this and made a console that wasn't so many years ahead of the competition, the waste of PS3 potential wouldn't be a problem.

But then that begs the question: How would we progress?

Advances are inevitable when there's competition.

Anyway, I'm rambling.

It's only a matter of time before we get to the edge of the cliff with the PS3, and when we get there, it's gonna be one hell of a jump.

Video games went from an experiment, to a form of profit, then to an art form, and then back to profit.

I mean, that's how I see it, anyway... so of course people are going to worry about money and not making good games. Kojima said it himself, with the whole "people aren't making good games anymore, just games that bring in moolah."

It's too bad, though. Maybe if Sony had thought about this and made a console that wasn't so many years ahead of the competition, the waste of PS3 potential wouldn't be a problem.

But then that begs the question: How would we progress?

Advances are inevitable when there's competition.

Anyway, I'm rambling.

It's only a matter of time before we get to the edge of the cliff with the PS3, and when we get there, it's gonna be one hell of a jump.

Fallout 3 could have been massive if it was a PS3 exclusive.samuraiguns

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Video games went from an experiment, to a form of profit, then to an art form, and then back to profit.

I mean, that's how I see it, anyway... so of course people are going to worry about money and not making good games. Kojima said it himself, with the whole "people aren't making good games anymore, just games that bring in moolah."

It's too bad, though. Maybe if Sony had thought about this and made a console that wasn't so many years ahead of the competition, the waste of PS3 potential wouldn't be a problem.

But then that begs the question: How would we progress?

Advances are inevitable when there's competition.

Anyway, I'm rambling.

It's only a matter of time before we get to the edge of the cliff with the PS3, and when we get there, it's gonna be one hell of a jump.

Fyrmest

Well, what if we eliminated the problem altogether? Then we'd have just Sony and Nintendo and more people would flock to the PS3 as a result of the growing popularity of FPS games.

At this point, Sony wouldn't even need to advance, they could just churn out the same console every 5 years and people would buy it as long as there wasn't something different or better.

The way I see it, Microsoft is key in Sony's advancement.

I know your point is in there, I probably missed it because I don't understand how Microsoft is the problem with Sony's advancement; if anything, they're the whole reason Sony decided to put a Blu-Ray in the PS3, because the other system wouldn't have one.

Even though I don't think the PS3 is a WASTE, I do agree with the whole Blu-Ray argument.

I know it has only been two-and-something years, and we are seeing more impressive stuff lately (Killzone 2, Heavy Rain etc.), but to me it doesn't seem like Blu-Ray has helped much. For multi-platform games it's understandable I guess, but for its current exclusives I think we could've expected some better stuff and yet, I believe all current PS3 exlusives could've been done on a 360. I mean the whole point of a newer system is to be better right? Go figure the PS3's launch price. Wow, that's a lot of money Sony put into their system (thus the high retail price from back in the day) but why? Sure, the Cell is mighty and powerful and hard drive space is never an issue but Blu-Ray seems to be kind of a flop for games. Well, for now maybe.

I'm one of these people who strongly believes the PS3 will be showing off some never-done-before graphics and physics later on, perhaps by summer 2010 we'll be seeing some 'wowy' exclusives.

Just look at the PS2. Look at its first ever exclusive. Then look at one of the latest exclusives (and I'm talking about graphics here). Quite a difference. It takes time.

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]Fallout 3 could have been massive if it was a PS3 exclusive.Fyrmest

In life, what?

[QUOTE="Fyrmest"][QUOTE="samuraiguns"]Fallout 3 could have been massive if it was a PS3 exclusive.samuraiguns

In life, what?

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

[QUOTE="Fyrmest"] Well, you see.... in life...Fyrmest

In life, what?

lol. I'll finish it for you, In life, Fallout 3 rules!

Microsoft was first in lead you see, leaving out Wii, with a limit of 8.54GB of space which most games have reached or nearly reached it until now, very few game developers went exclusive to PS3, fewer went as far to cap that 50GB of Sony's flashy Blu-Ray disc. Now as of today, with economic crisis on hand, games are still going on multiplatform without exceeding the 8GB. Sooner Sony will have their final leap of domination, until then, Microsoft will eventually counteract them as well as other console industries or whatever they call it.Fyrmest

Ahhh, I understand.

I personally blame the lack of 50GB games solely on the fact that Microsoft's console was out longer.

I mean, longer lifespan means bigger userbase, which means more people to buy the game. The third party Sony exclusive developers see the $$$ signs and make their games multi-plat, which leads to less than 8GB games.

But then again, even if you're presented with the oppurtunity of Blu Ray, why make a 50GB game when people will just as easily buy a 5GB one?

There have been only a few new IPs lately. I think that a lot of game developers have this "oh, it was a huge hit last generation, so I know they'll buy it because it's a new generation with pretty graphics and such." attitude.

Developers don't care what people think of how much work they put into a game as long as it looks like they didn't half ass their way through it, which is sad considering all the canvas space they've been given to make something truly incredible.

If anyone's losing, it's them.