Ps3 Emotion Engine

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#1 AznTakumi
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I don't get this, what is it for? And why doesn't the 80gb ps3 have it?
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#2 StrayMBlasTER
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#3 timmotool
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I thin its basically a chip that allows you to play PS2/PSX games. But its expensive to manufacture so they took it out and now they are just going to emulate all the games.
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#4 linkin_guy109
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 yeah the emotions chip lets you play like 90 % of ps2 and ps1 games, the 80gb ps3 does have something that lets you play ps1 and 2 games, its an emulator, its not quite as good as the emotions engine though, and lots of people preferre the emotions engine to the emulator because there have been a few problems with the emulator compared to the emotions engine
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#5 Sardaukar87
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not a problem, all PAL ps3 doesn't have it but I still play all my favourite ps2 titles

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#6 teebeenz
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The EE (and the GS) are the CPU and GPU from the PS2. They are not expensive to make however they simply are not needed. Removing them saves some money, makes the motherboard simpler to make and allows more space for future config changes.
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Its funny that Sony Ripped Microsoft for going the Emulator Route and not being fully backwards compatible, and now Sony is doing the exact same thing. Hmm.... Not trying to start a Systems War here, just think it's kinda funny and interesting at the same time.
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Its funny that Sony Ripped Microsoft for going the Emulator Route and not being fully backwards compatible, and now Sony is doing the exact same thing. Hmm.... Not trying to start a Systems War here, just think it's kinda funny and interesting at the same time.ChickenHawk07

OH I TOTally noticed it also>>>>

its funny>

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1. The PS3 Emotion Engine was NEVER used to play PlayStation games, only to run PS2 games. ALL PS3's use a SOFTWARE PSOne emulator from the first day. It has not changed at all, and that's the reason you DONT HAVE TO PRESS THE "PS" BUTTON WHEN YOU START A PS1 GAME, because the Cell Processor never gives the control to the EE in any way when you put a PS1 CD.

2. The PS2 emulation on PS3 uses aVERY different route than the one Microsoft choose for their machine. The two has benefits and problems, so it's not a question of "this is better than the other". Microsoft choose to make a SOFTWARE SPECIFIC emulator for EACH ONE of the supported games.

Let me explain this: Each game NEED a "package" to be run on the new console. Each "package" is a combination of "patch" + emulation for the new processor. This has the advantage of Microsoft being able to "fine tune" every game that it chooses to support. It has the disadvantage of excluding a long list of games and the users that don't have a lot of storage to download those packages.

Sony choose to emulate THE EMOTION ENGINE instead. The advantage of this approach is that Sony don't need to make a patch or emu-packs for every game. If the virtual EE works well, the software will run well.. Only one piece of software will run every game for this platform. Obvously, every emulator has it's shares of conflicts and Sony is working on them step by step with every Firmware Update and that's the reason some PS2 games don't run on the emulator... for now.

For a console with an architecture as complicated as the PS2, the 85-90% level emulation that the EE-less PS3's have is an incredible accomplishment.

Just my two cents.
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1. The PS3 Emotion Engine was NEVER used to play PlayStation games, only to run PS2 games. ALL PS3's use a SOFTWARE PSOne emulator from the first day. It has not changed at all, and that's the reason you DONT HAVE TO PRESS THE "PS" BUTTON WHEN YOU START A PS1 GAME, because the Cell Processor never gives the control to the EE in any way when you put a PS1 CD.

2. The PS2 emulation on PS3 uses aVERY different route than the one Microsoft choose for their machine. The two has benefits and problems, so it's not a question of "this is better than the other". Microsoft choose to make a SOFTWARE SPECIFIC emulator for EACH ONE of the supported games.

Let me explain this: Each game NEED a "package" to be run on the new console. Each "package" is a combination of "patch" + emulation for the new processor. This has the advantage of Microsoft being able to "fine tune" every game that it chooses to support. It has the disadvantage of excluding a long list of games and the users that don't have a lot of storage to download those packages.

Sony choose to emulate THE EMOTION ENGINE instead. The advantage of this approach is that Sony don't need to make a patch or emu-packs for every game. If the virtual EE works well, the software will run well.. Only one piece of software will run every game for this platform. Obvously, every emulator has it's shares of conflicts and Sony is working on them step by step with every Firmware Update and that's the reason some PS2 games don't run on the emulator... for now.

For a console with an architecture as complicated as the PS2, the 85-90% level emulation that the EE-less PS3's have is an incredible accomplishment.

Just my two cents.f0361c

That was Concise and Very Well Thought out.... Bravo!!! - D

We need more posts like this instead of People ripping on each other>>>>>

Lets Focus on the TOpic! *nods***

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[QUOTE="ChickenHawk07"]Its funny that Sony Ripped Microsoft for going the Emulator Route and not being fully backwards compatible, and now Sony is doing the exact same thing. Hmm.... Not trying to start a Systems War here, just think it's kinda funny and interesting at the same time.Galen20K

OH I TOTally noticed it also>>>>

its funny>

Well, considering that there are only two options to do backward compatibility: (i) software and (ii) hardware, it's not really surprising nor it is funny or interesting. It actually makes more sense for PS3 to do emulation because it's a 3rd generation system (as opposed to 2nd generation with MS's console), AND it helps with the cost.

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[QUOTE="Galen20K"]

[QUOTE="ChickenHawk07"]Its funny that Sony Ripped Microsoft for going the Emulator Route and not being fully backwards compatible, and now Sony is doing the exact same thing. Hmm.... Not trying to start a Systems War here, just think it's kinda funny and interesting at the same time.sandjar

OH I TOTally noticed it also>>>>

its funny>

Well, considering that there are only two options to do backward compatibility: (i) software and (ii) hardware, it's not really surprising nor it is funny or interesting. It actually makes more sense for PS3 to do emulation because it's a 3rd generation system (as opposed to 2nd generation with MS's console), AND it helps with the cost.

You totally missed the Boat on this one>>>>

OUr Point WAS that Sony Should NOT have been Ripping on MicroSoft for using Software Emulation if in Fact they KNEW that they were going to do the Same EXact thing in the near future Proving them to be HYpocrites so YES it is VERY Funny and Interesting that they Said that>>>>

Thanks! - D

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Great job answering the bakward compatability question. Now can you guys talk about what people will have to do when they want to use ps1-2 save files on their ps3 ???
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#15 ChickenHawk07
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[QUOTE="sandjar"][QUOTE="Galen20K"]

[QUOTE="ChickenHawk07"]Its funny that Sony Ripped Microsoft for going the Emulator Route and not being fully backwards compatible, and now Sony is doing the exact same thing. Hmm.... Not trying to start a Systems War here, just think it's kinda funny and interesting at the same time.Galen20K

OH I TOTally noticed it also>>>>

its funny>

Well, considering that there are only two options to do backward compatibility: (i) software and (ii) hardware, it's not really surprising nor it is funny or interesting. It actually makes more sense for PS3 to do emulation because it's a 3rd generation system (as opposed to 2nd generation with MS's console), AND it helps with the cost.

You totally missed the Boat on this one>>>>

OUr Point WAS that Sony Should NOT have been Ripping on MicroSoft for using Software Emulation if in Fact they KNEW that they were going to do the Same EXact thing in the near future Proving them to be HYpocrites so YES it is VERY Funny and Interesting that they Said that>>>>

Thanks! - D

Exactly. Thank you :D And to the poster who broke down the differences between the 360 and the PS3, I thank you. That was as Galen20K put it, very concise and to the point. And I actually didn't know any of that, so I've learned something new and can say I've had a good day.

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#16 dewmandew7
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I don't get this, what is it for? And why doesn't the 80gb ps3 have it? AznTakumi

It was the chip they had in the PS2. Having it in the system helps with backwards compatibility. In the 80 GB they use software emulation, which reduces the backwards compatibility. However, it's increasing through firmware updates, such as the new one.