PS3 Jailbreak - Bad or Good? (poll)

I was really amazed a minute ago when i was reading old news here on game spot concerning the PS3 Jailbreak, what really amaze me what comments like:

Ironic how Sony wants the PS3 to be looked at as a computer but when you try to give it the versatility and freedom to let you do whatever you want like a computer they throw a fit.LitterBoxHero

I hope the mod chips/PSJailbreak community win the case!!HappyBB

if games wernt so expensive less people would pirate themjbookie

people have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s.TerrorRizzing

And this is just the 1st page of comments, i never thought so many people wouldn't see this a plain wrong.

Let's talk in english, they wanna run pirated games on the PS3 period, everything else they say is just a sugar coat they wanna put over to cover it.
There's nothing to do with freedom of expression or anything like that, if they do win the law suit and this chip is not illegal it will be a sad day in gaming history.

It's sad when millions wait for games like Mass Effect 2 and a few hours after launch its already cracked and ready to be downloaded on the internet, if chips that allow pirated software to run on a console aren't illegal, what kinda protection do studios have for their hard work?

Freedom my eye, companies work hard and invest serious money, if you don't pay for the software they made, you are stealing.

Games are getting more and more expensive to make, apart from a handful of titles, nothing is exclusive anymore, something like this can really ruin small/med size companies.

I wonder just how many people don't see this as a bad thing.

If you look at it without thunking about it alot of people would say that moddifying PS3's should be legal, seeing as they would benifit from being able to pirate games right in there own homes. Yet it will be a very sad day if this does become legal. I do agree that games are very expencive, yet developers deserve the money they make on good games, i have companies such as Bethesda, Infinity Ward, Rockstar ect ect to thank for hours and hours of fun spent playing there games. If modding PS3's becomes legal these dev's are gonna loose out big time, therefore it would not suprise me if companies start closing down, not making the games we love games anymore. Therefore the future of not only video games dev's relys on this not becoming legal, but as it all starts to fall appart, companies will loose incentive to produce future gaming consoles.

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

It's not even discussable. It's just wrong. I hope all those who make/use this jailbreak rot in hell.pooyanh

(...) If modding PS3's becomes legal these dev's are gonna loose out big time, therefore it would not suprise me if companies start closing down, not making the games we love games anymore(...)cheezy909

(...)Software should be free anyway, back in the days people created games for others to enjoy not it's just about the $.Jebril

it is unfair that we pay $60 for a game while others can buy them for $1progamemania

screw sony ps3! the only console yet to be hacked...the only reason I don't own one!watchuwa

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

Dahaka-UK

It would be a good thing if they went just on the homebrew path (ie. emulator for dreamcast).

It would be a good thing if they went just on the homebrew path (ie. emulator for dreamcast).

zey2k

[QUOTE="zey2k"]

It would be a good thing if they went just on the homebrew path (ie. emulator for dreamcast).

codezer0

No, the device doesn't let you do crap, unless you have the backup manager that someone created. If that wasn't part of the equation, that pen would have turned out to be an awesome homebrew tool. of course theres always some not so "nice" hackers that decide to do that and destroy a community that could have grown beyong piracy.

With this, I can finally retire my PS2 for good, as the companion software it uses would allow me to do what I'd already enjoyed with the hard drive functionality of my phat model (and HDloader Full BC (since mine isn't neutered), cleaned up graphics, faster load times... win, win, win for me. Sadly, I can't afford one of those modules at the moment. :( Piracy was never in the equation.codezer0

So let me get this straight. You want to turn your PS3 into a PS2 at the expense of ridding your ability to play PS3 games online and possibly ridding the ability to play all future PS3 titles. Doesn't sound like much of a win, win, win situation to me. It's not like a HDloader full BC homebrew applicaton even exists yet if at all ever. The fact of the matter is people will pirate an a very small minority would use it legaly. Thats how it's always been and thats why they have the right to stop it.

there's 2 problems in this : economic and ethic

1) economic : the creator of the work is the one that gets the smaller % of the money you actually pay for any product, for CDs it's about 4-5%, so the producer and distributor gets the biggest part of the cake. The madness in our society is that these companies always want to make more benefit even if they aren't required and will bring nothing new. That's where everything come down as prices rise and people can't buy any longer. So they lose money too as they produce things that won't sell. And all that why? because they believe a modest worker must earn that much and the boss must win incredible amounts of money even when what he spent in the company has been gained back years ago. We can't continue long with such nonsense. Sad thing is if this "piracy" problem becomes wide, they'll make us pay more for games ...

2) ethic : we're okay, piracy is against the law. But what if a law is abusive to the whole humanity? like laws that allow company bosses to gain 200 times the total salaries of the company? and they gain x00 000s when they retire? how ridiculous is that? shouldn't we be able to save some money by "getting" a game free from time to time? Problem in humanity is "some" will abuse this system never paying for a game, and sadly they won't be arrested, the poor guy that bought 50 games and gor a "free" game will go to jail.

Some people are only concerned with their own instant gratification of getting stuff for free. Other people look at the big picture and realize that if the developers don't make as much money, the quality of games that we all get will go down.

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

Dahaka-UK

How bad could it be most people won't bother to download 25-50gb downloads so....

I was really amazed a minute ago when i was reading old news here on game spot concerning the PS3 Jailbreak, what really amaze me what comments like:

[quote="LitterBoxHero"]Ironic how Sony wants the PS3 to be looked at as a computer but when you try to give it the versatility and freedom to let you do whatever you want like a computer they throw a fit.Kane04

I hope the mod chips/PSJailbreak community win the case!!HappyBB

if games wernt so expensive less people would pirate themjbookie

people have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s.TerrorRizzing

And this is just the 1st page of comments, i never thought so many people wouldn't see this a plain wrong.

Let's talk in english, they wanna run pirated games on the PS3 period, everything else they say is just a sugar coat they wanna put over to cover it.
There's nothing to do with freedom of expression or anything like that, if they do win the law suit and this chip is not illegal it will be a sad day in gaming history.

It's sad when millions wait for games like Mass Effect 2 and a few hours after launch its already cracked and ready to be downloaded on the internet, if chips that allow pirated software to run on a console aren't illegal, what kinda protection do studios have for their hard work?

Freedom my eye, companies work hard and invest serious money, if you don't pay for the software they made, you are stealing.

Games are getting more and more expensive to make, apart from a handful of titles, nothing is exclusive anymore, something like this can really ruin small/med size companies.

I wonder just how many people don't see this as a bad thing.

Only poor little thieves can think this is "good". Theres nothing good about it. I hope Sony bans everyone who uses that thing. I also hope the latest firmware put stop to it and if a small percentage of people is willing to sacrifice their free PSN by not updating the firmware, well I say let them go. I would take free online play and online features of PSN over all pirated games anyday. And please nobody start with "homebrew" and freedom. Those are just poor excuses for pirating games.

How bad could it be most people won't bother to download 25-50gb downloads so....

Wolfman_chopper

Its simple it will ruin gaming. Devs will spend less time on gaming. These pepole are only thinking inside the box and about themselves. Think outside the box at the whole picture and realize what this would do to ps3 gaming.

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

dantesergei

Its simple it will ruin gaming. Devs will spend less time on gaming. These pepole are only thinking inside the box and about themselves. Think outside the box at the whole picture and realize what this would do to ps3 gaming.

POPEYE1716

It's not even discussable. It's just wrong. I hope all those who make/use this jailbreak rot in hell.pooyanh

Wow, dont you think thats a little harsh? Condeming someone who wrote lines of code to burn for the rest of eternity.

I don't use jailbreaking USB's but I do support their ability to do so if they want to. Go for it!

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

dantesergei

Yet another really poor excuse. If people can't afford something then tough luck, they quite simply cannot have it and that doesn't give people the right to steal. Sure piracy might always be present in some form but PS3 is been going on 3 years without it now? Once everything goes digital download(which will happen, pirates called for it.) it's going to be harder than ever to pirate games.

[QUOTE="pooyanh"]It's not even discussable. It's just wrong. I hope all those who make/use this jailbreak rot in hell.Wizgot

Wow, dont you think thats a little harsh? Condeming someone who wrote lines of code to burn for the rest of eternity.

8th comandment of the Lord, "You shall not steal", so in a sense, it's not harsh... (Not that I care for the religious implication of the aforementioned post, nor for what I wrote. :) ).

On topic: Piracy is seen as the main reason why PS Store has never came to my contry (nor did the PS2 been ever oficially released here), so yes, I do think that PS Jailbreak is a bad idea, piracy do indeed have a great effect worldwide on companies' decisions and it should be dealt in a quick and swift blow (not hell, but a long stay in prison would be great).

[QUOTE="codezer0"]With this, I can finally retire my PS2 for good, as the companion software it uses would allow me to do what I'd already enjoyed with the hard drive functionality of my phat model (and HDloader Full BC (since mine isn't neutered), cleaned up graphics, faster load times... win, win, win for me. Sadly, I can't afford one of those modules at the moment. :( Piracy was never in the equation.Dahaka-UK

So let me get this straight. You want to turn your PS3 into a PS2 at the expense of ridding your ability to play PS3 games online and possibly ridding the ability to play all future PS3 titles. Doesn't sound like much of a win, win, win situation to me. It's not like a HDloader full BC homebrew applicaton even exists yet if at all ever. The fact of the matter is people will pirate an a very small minority would use it legaly. Thats how it's always been and thats why they have the right to stop it.

Thirdly, BM 1.1 is purporting support for ripping PS1 and PS2 games onto either an external HDD or the PS3's internal hard disk, which would be tremendous for me... and give me a reason to buy a huge hard drive for it. It would give me more reasons to use my PS3 than I currently have. So it's effectively adding in HDLoader-like support for PS1, PS2 (if yours has BC) and PS3 games. How can you not find that cool?codezer0

How about getting up and just putting the cd/dvd in ... is that so bad?

How about getting up and just putting the cd/dvd in ... is that so bad?

plg2307

really you can modd your system if you want HOWEVER if you want to take it online you have to play by their rules. so the updates are up to you. you can still modd all day, everyday.

I hope Sony keeps the Pirates away for ever

Like mindless drones, people yap about how "wrong they are" so quick to forget and excuse what those same companies do to us, the user. I think these ready-made and heavily influenced "automated responses" are rather weak and probably can't even explain why they feel they're wrong without some bureaucrat telling them. Both sides are to blame as they screw us (the user) over one way or another. But, piracy does offer a lot of freedoms and lessens that vice grip control these companies love to have. So in my opinion, companies should get off thier ass and take a page from thier book. Allow all codecs, allow a better browser, allow Homebrew support because chances are, that alone would probably cut piracy in half. It also would be nice if they quit this DLC abuse, allow music playback on all games and just open the entire PS1 library once and for all. It works both ways kiddies and Sony's new slogan has to put it's money where it's mouth is...Denji

I don't see how anybody could say they DON'T provide a way for games to be pirated freely and still think it's ok...

so why wasnt retarded an option its called morality legionofdugi

morality is a personal opinion that differs from individual to individual. its not cut and dry, people like to say "oh if you don't think like me then you're a horrible person" thats usually where wars start. if a ps3 is jailbroken sure you COULD pirate games, or you could run homebrew apps, possibly get your other OS back and god knows what else could be customizable (assuredly pretty much everything) theres plenty you could do aside from pirating stuff, even though that is obviously an option.

Let's talk in english, they wanna run pirated games on the PS3 period, everything else they say is just a sugar coat they wanna put over to cover it.
There's nothing to do with freedom of expression or anything like that, if they do win the law suit and this chip is not illegal it will be a sad day in gaming history.

Kane04

I have a serious problem with the above paragraph for many reasons. Saying " everything else they say is just a sugar coat " is like having a debate speaking your view then covering your ears and screaming I can't hear you La La La like a child. There are alot of consumer rights at risk here and all you see is piracy, very very sad. I do not condone piracy. I do support my right to buy something and do what ever I see fit as long as I'm not breaking any laws. I mean this whole thing is alot bigger than piracy and if you uncovered your ears and put some thought into things people have to say you may wind up learning something other than it opens a door La La La La La8)

It has the potential to be great if it introduces the PS3 to custom firmware.

It's not even discussable. It's just wrong. I hope all those who make/use this jailbreak rot in hell.pooyanh

Totally agree

The PS jailbreak doesn't really work on ps3's anymore if you downloaded version 3.42 which disables PS Jailbreaks from being used and you can't play online if you don't update the software so many PS Jailbreakers will be freaking out about now! :D

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

dantesergei

IMO, the only bad thing about this jailbreak thing is piracy. From what I hear, oter people want to jailbreak theirs for stuff other than piracy, like bringing back OtherOS.tekken220

Agreed, I don't think people here know anything about modding consoles.

I could be wrong here but...

I think that in order to copy PS3 games you'll not only have to get blu-ray disks but also a blu-ray burner, which adds up to more that a thousand bucks.

Mix that money with all the work it takes to set it all up and the time it takes to download each gigantic file from the web...

If anybody do all that and is willing to risk their PS3's and their accounts for the "project" then...

I think these people have earned the right to download, its more of a rebel thing than a pirate thing.

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

All really poor excuses to open the gateway to piracy and no people DON'T have the right to do whatever they want with their ps3s. They have the right to do what Sony allowed them to do.

dantesergei

I can see how people can pirate a game or two on the pc but on a console is just so.. "meh" or something. Just buy the game. :\