PS3 not doing so bad?? (Article)

PS3 First-Year Sales On Par With Xbox 360's

Much has been made about the PS3's slow start, but in all fairness, too many people are comparing it to the PS2's dominance. The last generation was a blowout in favor of Sony's system, but nobody really believed that would happen again, what with Microsoft's debut firmly behind them and Nintendo going a new - and profitable - direction with the Wii. Furthermore, just how far behind is the PS3? Really? Well, if you simply look at the hardware sales charts, it's not.

This chart aligns the PS3 and Xbox 360 launches; it's current, so it includes the first 10 months of the PS3 and Wii's existence, and the first 23 months for the Xbox 360. We forget the 360 faced plenty of issues during its first 10 months, and that was without any competition. In the face of both the 360 and Wii, the PS3 has managed to sell just about the same number of units up to this point. And now that we have the price cut and the introduction of the "entry level" 40GB PS3, it seems very possible the PS3 could end up selling more units than the 360 in its first year. The holiday season is almost upon us, and of course, that will tell the final tale of the tape.

As you can see by the chart, the Wii is outstripping the competition, but analysts expect a very close three-way race throughout most of this generation. But we just wanted to point out that, despite all the negative PS3 press (which has admittedly died down over the past few months), the overall sales numbers are right on par with its primary competition when comparing the first year.

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the whole thing is discredited by the use of vgchatz

the sites better than others but its still not a reliable source.

It's accurate tho... look at the numbers. 360 really spiked last christmas... as can be seen in that chart.

I think it's pretty crazy that with the wii, 360, AND the highest price tag ever on a console, it still managed to sell the same amount as 360 in it's first year.H8s2spooge

yes its a spike...is it an accurate spike?

last i remember walmart doesnt give out info on how much they sell...and MS only tells us how much they shipped.

let alone do you have any proof vgcharts is accurate?

It's accurate tho... look at the numbers. 360 really spiked last christmas... as can be seen in that chart.

I think it's pretty crazy that with the wii, 360, AND the highest price tag ever on a console, it still managed to sell the same amount as 360 in it's first year.H8s2spooge

I've always thought that PS3 just needed some time to prove itself. Bashing the PS3 now is like berating a newborn for not walking. InfinityMugen

No surprise here. I knew all along that the PS3's sales were just as good as the 360's during its first year. NO new here. PS3 is doing great and on par with the 360 for their first 10months of their livesThe_Gamer81

same, i could have told you this months ago. 360 is at maybe 11k now, PS3 hasn't even been a year and it is around 5 mil, more or less. even if its not selling on par, it would just be barely falling short of if anything.

with the release of halo 3 we will see 360 sales spike up for awhile of course, but we will also see more sales for PS3 in the coming months with the price cuts and more games coming out. Now which one will outsell the other, i think it will be a back and forth game, i think the 360 will win for awhile, maybe even take the holiday cake, but PS3 shouldn't do too bad either.

[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]It's accurate tho... look at the numbers. 360 really spiked last christmas... as can be seen in that chart.

I think it's pretty crazy that with the wii, 360, AND the highest price tag ever on a console, it still managed to sell the same amount as 360 in it's first year.GlassDominion

yes its a spike...is it an accurate spike?

last i remember walmart doesnt give out info on how much they sell...and MS only tells us how much they shipped.

let alone do you have any proof vgcharts is accurate?

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"]

[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]It's accurate tho... look at the numbers. 360 really spiked last christmas... as can be seen in that chart.

I think it's pretty crazy that with the wii, 360, AND the highest price tag ever on a console, it still managed to sell the same amount as 360 in it's first year.gizmo_logix

yes its a spike...is it an accurate spike?

last i remember walmart doesnt give out info on how much they sell...and MS only tells us how much they shipped.

let alone do you have any proof vgcharts is accurate?

im suggesting the site is inaccurate on all accounts and thus anything written based off of it, is also inaccurate.

i just pointed to the 360 because its been through a christmas where as the ps3 was just getting out the doors for the end of the holiday seasons rush.

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]

[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]It's accurate tho... look at the numbers. 360 really spiked last christmas... as can be seen in that chart.

I think it's pretty crazy that with the wii, 360, AND the highest price tag ever on a console, it still managed to sell the same amount as 360 in it's first year.GlassDominion

yes its a spike...is it an accurate spike?

last i remember walmart doesnt give out info on how much they sell...and MS only tells us how much they shipped.

let alone do you have any proof vgcharts is accurate?

im suggesting the site is inaccurate on all accounts and thus anything written based off of it, is also inaccurate.

i just pointed to the 360 because its been through a christmas where as the ps3 was just getting out the doors for the end of the holiday seasons rush.

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"][QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]

[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]It's accurate tho... look at the numbers. 360 really spiked last christmas... as can be seen in that chart.

I think it's pretty crazy that with the wii, 360, AND the highest price tag ever on a console, it still managed to sell the same amount as 360 in it's first year.gizmo_logix

yes its a spike...is it an accurate spike?

last i remember walmart doesnt give out info on how much they sell...and MS only tells us how much they shipped.

let alone do you have any proof vgcharts is accurate?

im suggesting the site is inaccurate on all accounts and thus anything written based off of it, is also inaccurate.

i just pointed to the 360 because its been through a christmas where as the ps3 was just getting out the doors for the end of the holiday seasons rush.

i could really care less who is selling more. i go where the games are...and my gaming tastes are only on play station platforms anymore. i dont remember the 360 getting MGS, FF, disgaea, etc.

the sites off, so i cant conclude anything from looking at the numbers. ill wait for sonys end of the year we sold this many consoles. those are the only numbers i trust.

i dunno why your trying to turn this into some consoles better than another console...the sites wrong who knows how much its off...but anything written using that site as a source is not creditable. im not arguing sales vs sales. im arguing the site isnt legit.

sorry but with a site being inaccurate, and no accurate numbers for months theres no clear way to make an accurate conclusion. especially with things such as halo3 and the ps3 price drops recently.

we have no accurate data for those points in time, considering vgchartz has the ps3 listed at 5 million ish, being off by just 1 million is a big deal.

i personally dont think any conclusion made with inaccurate numbers, and using asite with inaccurate numbers is possible.

if the 360 actually had 1 million more sales the same time last year and the ps3 sales were down 1 million from what the site says, then the conslusion would be completly off.

you are assuming the ps3 is trailing the 360, but you have no proof of it. sorry get me some numbers and then ill take you seriously.

and it's on par not counting the ~33% that are most likely there (counted) as well lol

Edit: besides the shipped numbers ;]

sorry but with a site being inaccurate, and no accurate numbers for months theres no clear way to make an accurate conclusion. especially with things such as halo3 and the ps3 price drops recently.

we have no accurate data for those points in time, considering vgchartz has the ps3 listed at 5 million ish, being off by just 1 million is a big deal.

i personally dont think any conclusion made with inaccurate numbers, and using asite with inaccurate numbers is possible.

if the 360 actually had 1 million more sales the same time last year and the ps3 sales were down 1 million from what the site says, then the conslusion would be completly off.

you are assuming the ps3 is trailing the 360, but you have no proof of it. sorry get me some numbers and then ill take you seriously.

GlassDominion

and it's on par not counting the ~33% that are most likely there (counted) as well lol

Edit: besides the shipped numbers ;]

starfxxxer

gizmo give me proof this trend even exists.

im hate the 360, but i still cant stand articles that have no base for what they suggest.

no one has accurate numbers at this point...thus any "trends" we see are not valid.

I've always thought that PS3 just needed some time to prove itself. Bashing the PS3 now is like berating a newborn for not walking. InfinityMugen

:o Best...Quote....To Steal...EVER, today.

gizmo give me proof this trend even exists.

im hate the 360, but i still cant stand articles that have no base for what they suggest.

no one has accurate numbers at this point...thus any "trends" we see are not valid.

GlassDominion

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]I've always thought that PS3 just needed some time to prove itself. Bashing the PS3 now is like berating a newborn for not walking. Symphonycometh

:o Best...Quote....To Steal...EVER, today.

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"]

gizmo give me proof this trend even exists.

im hate the 360, but i still cant stand articles that have no base for what they suggest.

no one has accurate numbers at this point...thus any "trends" we see are not valid.

gizmo_logix

sorry but when you have bad data, i dont see how you can plot points to get a "trend".

a trend suggests you have same data and your making an observation on how its doing. Sony hasnt told us numberes seince e3 that i know of. thus in the months after e3 sales could have sky rocketed above that of the 360. enabling the "trend" you observed with the false data isnt the real trend and i find it pittiful to base trends off of false data.

get me some real numbers and we will talk.

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]

gizmo give me proof this trend even exists.

im hate the 360, but i still cant stand articles that have no base for what they suggest.

no one has accurate numbers at this point...thus any "trends" we see are not valid.

GlassDominion

sorry but when you have bad data, i dont see how you can plot points to get a "trend".

a trend suggests you have same data and your making an observation on how its doing. Sony hasnt told us numberes seince e3 that i know of. thus in the months after e3 sales could have sky rocketed above that of the 360. enabling the "trend" you observed with the false data isnt the real trend and i find it pittiful to base trends off of false data.

get me some real numbers and we will talk.

gizmo_logix

1. whats that got to do with anything

2. i dont have any clue, i havent seen sonys or MSs offical numbers reciently.

3. do you know?

...GlassDominion

I'm possitive these numbers aren't 'way off'. The NPD reports every month and other stuff. It's a rough estimate and you could never have EXACT NUMBERS. It's in the millions & maybe some companies do hold out on sales. However, in half the time, the PS3 is half way to the 360. Weather it conflicts your interest to accurate numbers or not.

If the chart is off that much that in one month they sold 1 million more, that means in another they sold 1 million less. I'm not going to credit a console about how much it's sold based on the numbers for one month. (As Halo will push the 360 this month) The PS3 is competing with not only the Wii & 360. It's also competing with the PS2. Being its major problem. Some people of the playstation product are too comfortable. If they still get games, why bother touching the PS3 till it's cheaper and has a community (like home).

Soon the Wifi and blue-tooth chips will be one chip, the RSX will be reduced to 65nm. The PS3 will start using 65nm Cell chips & etc. This is all happening very soon, hit games come out during q1-q2 of 2008. Also home releases & kids can play LittleBigWorld. There are a lot of secret projects in the work as well, which I'll be hoping to see late 2008.

Just compair the 360's sales this holiday, vs. the PS3's next year. Btw, at any time the PS3 out sells the 360 in any given month. I hope you all roll over and give into the obvious facts :O!. PS, this should all be in the system wars forum :3.

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"]...gizmo_logix

now your trying to turn me into a xbot? just go look at my blogs.

im just saying the numbers are off, and you cant have an accurate "trend" based off fake numbers.

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]...GlassDominion

now your trying to turn me into a xbot? just go look at my blogs.

im just saying the numbers are off, and you cant have an accurate "trend" based off fake numbers.

Let's just hope for the best in the sales for the PS3....like they were off in a good way for PS3 sales.:D

[QUOTE="GlassDominion"]

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]...Symphonycometh

now your trying to turn me into a xbot? just go look at my blogs.

im just saying the numbers are off, and you cant have an accurate "trend" based off fake numbers.

Let's just hope for the best in the sales for the PS3....like they were off in a good way for PS3 sales.:D

the ps3 sales are really up this month...amazon is reporting 1000% increases and such...the price drop really helped out.

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="GlassDominion"]...GlassDominion

now your trying to turn me into a xbot? just go look at my blogs.

im just saying the numbers are off, and you cant have an accurate "trend" based off fake numbers.

[QUOTE="starfxxxer"]

and it's on par not counting the ~33% that are most likely there (counted) as well lol

Edit: besides the shipped numbers ;]

gizmo_logix

the PS3 it's doing quite/pretty good with it's price tag (differest SKU's are good for people, not everyone can buy the most expensive one) and "lack of games" (lol) and losing some great exclusives ...come one, Silent Hill started on PS1 it became popular and then multiplat, Resident evil as well, Devil May Cry was born on PS2 and now the 4'th one you know ...a lot of great games were born on the PlayStation brand ..what great games did we get from the competition? besides Ninja Gaiden Sigma nothing rings in my head at the moment and Ninja Gaiden was supposed to come on the PS2 in the first place but Itagaki ... nevermind lol

The more 1'st, 2'nd and 3'rd party games start rolling out for the PS3 the better it will do :) ... the more PS3 sales (larger fanbase) => more developers (more games) => more PS3 sales again and so on ;]

Ninja Gaiden was supposed to come on the PS2 in the first place but Itagakistarfxxxer

[QUOTE="starfxxxer"]Ninja Gaiden was supposed to come on the PS2 in the first place but Itagakigizmo_logix

What's Suckin Ftopping him from giving us a DOA game again? I can forgive A LOT of crap from him if he'd just give us DOA again.

if sony were the new boys on the block then PS3s performance would be very good. but there not, there industry veterans and have been market leaders for over 10 years. its performance is very poor so far in retail. merely keeping pace with the 360 is not good enough, it should be beating it and catching up month after month. if all it does is keep pace then PS3 will remain 3rd at the end of the gen. thats not good enough for a brand that has led the console industry for 10 years.

Sony are also unhappy with PS3 software and hardware sales so far and there now doing somethig about it. hopefully lower prices, combined with a greatly improved liberary on the exclusives front and better marketing (the current add for HS is pathetic..it really is....they need to get the bravia marketing guys on PS3 duty) will lead to a far better 08 for PS3.

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="starfxxxer"]Ninja Gaiden was supposed to come on the PS2 in the first place but ItagakiSymphonycometh

What's Suckin Ftopping him from giving us a DOA game again? I can forgive A LOT of crap from him if he'd just give us DOA again.

Some people seem to compare it toTekken alot but I want the both worlds ..even Street Fighter, Capcom vs. SNK ... ALL OF THEM IN THE PALM OF MY HAND!!11! :twisted:

I've always thought that PS3 just needed some time to prove itself. Bashing the PS3 now is like berating a newborn for not walking. InfinityMugen

I couldn't agree more.

I know you don't want to answer my question.gizmo_logix

and what question is that? the number of consoles sold? i honestly dont know. about all i know is 5 million(ps3) and 10 million(360) range, but those numbers are dated and inaccurate.

We already KNOW THIS to be generally accepted! Are you going to sit there and deny this because you don't have the lastest numbers? gizmo_logix

It's more like 13 MIL (or 8.5 MIL!)" We just don't hear that. gizmo_logix

The point is that the PS3 is hovering *around* HALF the sales than the 360 sold in HALF the amount of time it took for the 360 to sell that many. gizmo_logix

And that's the current trends/pattern. Understand? gizmo_logix

You make is seem as though the PS3 is getting beat 1 to 3 or 1 to 4. It's not. It's close to 1 to 2 minus the year head start.gizmo_logix