PS3 too complicated!

I think Sony made the PS3 too much like a computer, making it difficult for less computer savvy people to operate it! The younger generation i think will have no problems operating it, as we have been brought up with computers, but the older generation and some just plain computer illiterate struggle to just turn it on and off!

For example:

• people are struggling to update with the PS3 updates.
• constant networking problems people are getting, even i have had some which took a while to fix.
• Mic installations, and other accessories.

I could go on and on, but i think u get the point!

I do love the fact it is more like a computer, but i know others do have a hard time with it, as im often asked to resolve people issues while playing online!

I see this as an issue for sony, it needs to be more simple in order for them to sell more i think, maybe a help thing like microsoft word's paper clip to even help out the current owners.

1/ never had a problem updating my PS3 and if there are some, it isnt the majority of PS3 owners/users.

2/ While its not constant, they're are problems. Remember, if you're talking about online play its not all sony's fault.

3/ This is usually with bluetooth mics but yes it does. Any device which picks up bluetooth will not always be completely reliable

PS3, XBOX360, WII....so easy even a caveman can do it.

Seriously, you want intimidation on how hard to operate a machine?

My grandpa who is now 61, can send me emails, with attachments, chat with me at yahoo, print pictures and a lot more at his PC. A PC, what machine can be more indimidating than that? So much clickity clackity and steps to follow so much options to do and yet he can do it.

Now don't tell me you're ranting on just a simple interface that anyone can learn to navigate through given a few hours.

And network connections and update problems? Sheesshhh even the Wii gets that much less the PS3 and XBOX360.

no offense, but if you can't deal with new technology, then dont own it......things arent as simple as pressing "power" like in the genesis days, but the benefits are huge

no offense, but if you can't deal with new technology, then dont own it......things arent as simple as pressing "power" like in the genesis days, but the benefits are huge

Bri2314

It's not complicated for anyone that at least knows how to read.

Manuals are there for a reason. Some people just need to be less lazy and more curious.

clearly anyone who says the ps3 isnt compilcated has no idea how stupid people are. well stupid is the wrong word, uninformed may be more suited. but sony has never been good at software, just look at the psp its not exactly the most simple thing to operate.feel_freetwo

no offense, but if you can't deal with new technology, then dont own it......things arent as simple as pressing "power" like in the genesis days, but the benefits are huge

Bri2314

I don't see how it is complicated. It's very straight forward and options are well worded. Like ok lets play a game. goto the game icon and pick the game i want. Same with everything else. Networking was a piece of cake too. I just attached the cable to my router and PS3 and poof it worked. All the systems imo are very easy to use and quite intuitivekarmageddon2k4

C'mon, it's not all that complicated ...Morfessa

ya i miss the good ol days with N64 or PS1, pop in a game and play!PMatt722

The system is still that simple it just has more you can do. If you drop in a movie or a game it will simply auto load it. You eject it the game shuts off. Throw in another. There's actually less you have to do because you don't have to turn it off or reset for it to work.

Simple enough to me. Then again, I'm a computer engineer. One of the tech industries' biggest difficulties is found in thinking like a simple-minded end-user. For tech heads, most things are easy. For grandma or kids, things we find easy can be a real challenge.

It's the reason why Apple's stuff continues to sell so well in the face of legit competitors in the MP3 market.

I guess my point is that it's hard to create something really simple when your mode of thinking is so tech-centric. But that's why they have focus groups and the like.

[QUOTE="karmageddon2k4"]I don't see how it is complicated. It's very straight forward and options are well worded. Like ok lets play a game. goto the game icon and pick the game i want. Same with everything else. Networking was a piece of cake too. I just attached the cable to my router and PS3 and poof it worked. All the systems imo are very easy to use and quite intuitivefeel_freetwo

I had the hang of the PS3 in minutes when i first got it. Never used one before and it was easy as can be. I suppose if people never use technology it would seem confusing but it's the nature of the beast. goes for pretty much everything. Considering what these systems can do they are far simpler to use than a PC. I've been using computers for a long time and you generally have to know far more to do what a PS3 or 360 can in 1 or 2 steps

I think Sony made the PS3 too much like a computer, making it difficult for less computer savvy people to operate it! The younger generation i think will have no problems operating it, as we have been brought up with computers, but the older generation and some just plain computer illiterate struggle to just turn it on and off!

For example:

• people are struggling to update with the PS3 updates.
• constant networking problems people are getting, even i have had some which took a while to fix.
• Mic installations, and other accessories.

I could go on and on, but i think u get the point!

I do love the fact it is more like a computer, but i know others do have a hard time with it, as im often asked to resolve people issues while playing online!

I see this as an issue for sony, it needs to be more simple in order for them to sell more i think, maybe a help thing like microsoft word's paper clip to even help out the current owners.

wade3024

Wow dude. How much simpler could they have made it?

No, I don't think it's too complicated. If you're too computer illiterate to turn a PS3 on, just don't bother. Keep cooking your sabretooth-tiger steaks over the first fire ever created.

If all else fails, it does come with a manual, and the manual is written as if you're dumb enough to try and eat the PS3, so I think even the dumbest of the dumb should have no problem going "Menu > System Update > Update via Internet".

If I knew how to find the ASCII of the migraine man, I would so post it here.

No, I don't think it's too complicated. If you're too computer illiterate to turn a PS3 on, just don't bother. Keep cooking your sabretooth-tiger steaks over the first fire ever created.D_Znuhtz

I guess you're not in the tech industry. That kind of attitude would certainly get you fired. The push for simplicity is a constant struggle in the industry...we constantly strive to make things more simple for everyone. The minute people take that kind of attitude is the minute that company begins its decent into bankrupcy.

Always respect people who have difficulties, because they are NEVER...EVER...alone.

It's not complicated for anyone that at least knows how to read.

Manuals are there for a reason. Some people just need to be less lazy and more curious.

lusitanogamer

I totally agree. How many people that bought a PS3 and read the manual. I bet it is around 1%. It is there for people that are new to the technology and did not grow up with it. My manual is still sealed in its package.

I don't see how it could be any easier. System updating? It tells you when to update, and where to go to find System Update. Then you just pick how you want to update and sit back and wait.

Most people with the internet connection problems is due to the fact that they are using a wireless connection. And more often its either the router that is faulty or the connection is bad because the PS3 is too far from the crappy router...

[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]No, I don't think it's too complicated. If you're too computer illiterate to turn a PS3 on, just don't bother. Keep cooking your sabretooth-tiger steaks over the first fire ever created.Dreams-Visions

I guess you're not in the tech industry. That kind of attitude would certainly get you fired. The push for simplicity is a constant struggle in the industry...we constantly strive to make things more simple for everyone. The minute people take that kind of attitude is the minute that company begins its decent into bankrupcy.

Always respect people who have difficulties, because they are NEVER...EVER...alone.

You're right, I'm not in the tech industry, and as such I don't have a vested interest in making sure mouth-breathers are clever enough to read the literature that comes with the machine they just spent $600 on. If I was in the industry, then I would design products to be as simple, user-friendly, and intuitive as possible, but behind the scenes I would be shaking my head in disbelief at people that ask "so do I plug this thing in to a wall socket then? Is that what these prongs are for? I didn't say a single thing about selling products to people, btw, so I don't have any idea why you brought it up.

Some things are complicated. I think a line needs to be drawn, though, and when people call up for tech support before actually glancing at the product to see if they can make heads-or-tails out of it, or better yet, reading the manual, they should be slapped, not coddled. As a business, you have to coddle them because they have money, but personally I think it's pathetic, I feel like people are dumb and the rest of us are their enablers. They should be meeting us halfway.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]No, I don't think it's too complicated. If you're too computer illiterate to turn a PS3 on, just don't bother. Keep cooking your sabretooth-tiger steaks over the first fire ever created.D_Znuhtz

I guess you're not in the tech industry. That kind of attitude would certainly get you fired. The push for simplicity is a constant struggle in the industry...we constantly strive to make things more simple for everyone. The minute people take that kind of attitude is the minute that company begins its decent into bankrupcy.

Always respect people who have difficulties, because they are NEVER...EVER...alone.

You're right, I'm not in the tech industry, and as such I don't have a vested interest in making sure mouth-breathers are clever enough to read the literature that comes with the machine they just spent $600 on. If I was in the industry, then I would design products to be as simple, user-friendly, and intuitive as possible, but behind the scenes I would be shaking my head in disbelief at people that ask "so do I plug this thing in to a wall socket then? Is that what these prongs are for? I didn't say a single thing about selling products to people, btw, so I don't have any idea why you brought it up.

Some things are complicated. I think a line needs to be drawn, though, and when people call up for tech support before actually glancing at the product to see if they can make heads-or-tails out of it, or better yet, reading the manual, they should be slapped, not coddled. As a business, you have to coddle them because they have money, but personally I think it's pathetic, I feel like people are dumb and the rest of us are their enablers. They should be meeting us halfway.

Agreed. But we have to work and plan like they will not. Sucks...but that's the consumer. Gotta meet them where they're at, since we're trying to sell THEM the product. oh well.

[QUOTE="Bri2314"]

no offense, but if you can't deal with new technology, then dont own it......things arent as simple as pressing "power" like in the genesis days, but the benefits are huge

GARRYTH

Which kid that is 10 years old that dosen't know these stuffs will buy a ps3?

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="Bri2314"]

no offense, but if you can't deal with new technology, then dont own it......things arent as simple as pressing "power" like in the genesis days, but the benefits are huge

god_of_shawn

Which kid that is 10 years old that dosen't know these stuffs will buy a ps3?