PS3 Updates are largely pointless to a gamer and im getting damn well fed up.

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#1 jwsoul
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Facebook? I dont want Facebook on my damn PS3!

Somthing about being able to view photos better?

Oh and some rubbish todo with your friends list.

Honestly why dose this additional data prevent the average GAMEPLAYER from going online and playing his PS3. Im at a loss why these largekly pointless updates should affect our abbility to go online in general. Surely versions to not matter when it comes to playing Demons Souls or CODMW2 online do they?

I mean Facebook WTH man....

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#2 Jaysonguy
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They're all optional

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#3 thunderf00t
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They're all optional

Jaysonguy
What, the updates? In my experience most of them have been mandatory for me to use other features of the PSN such as the Playstation Store.
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#4 Scianix-Black
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Buy a 360?

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#5 jwsoul
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They're all optional

Jaysonguy
No they are not? Without the latest update its impossible to get on line.
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#6 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They're all optional

thunderf00t

What, the updates? In my experience most of them have been mandatory for me to use other features of the PSN such as the Playstation Store.

No, using them

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#7 jwsoul
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Buy a 360?

Scianix-Black
Tempting but i think not paying for online is not my thing.
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#8 Scianix-Black
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The features they provide are, though.

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#9 3rdbass
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They're all optional

Jaysonguy

Nope as stated by others you can't access certain online feature such as PSN store.

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#10 jwsoul
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The features they provide are, though.

Scianix-Black
Yes the features they provide are lol.... But the update is not and in most cases they can take a while to download.
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#11 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

The features they provide are, though.

jwsoul

Yes the features they provide are lol.... But the update is not and in most cases they can take a while to download.

Yeah, but is waiting really a problem that you had to make a thread about it?

Patience is a virtue, you know.

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#12 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

The features they provide are, though.

Scianix-Black

Yes the features they provide are lol.... But the update is not and in most cases they can take a while to download.

Yeah, but is waiting really a problem that you had to make a thread about it?

Patience is a virtue, you know.

No it is a problem your missing the point of the post. i play games on my PS3 as do the vast majority owners i do not see why we have to download updates that have nothing todo with the gameplaying features of the PS3. Bad design choice is the only thing i can think of!
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#13 BZSIN
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Consoles are evolving into more than just gaming machines. No amount of complaining is going to change that so you'd better get used to it.

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#14 thunderf00t
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I have to admit as someone who does not play online games much, that getting on to go to the Playstation Store to get a new game, only to be prompted to go download yet another incremental update that doesn't add anything of any interest to me, or that enhances my gaming in fashion, really is very irritating. More of these updates should be entirely optional, but that seems to be the exception, not the norm.
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#15 jwsoul
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Consoles are evolving into more than just gaming machines. No amount of complaining is going to change that so you'd better get used to it.

BZSIN
If thats the case then perhaps they should remember not everyone can get highspeed broadband and YOU are also missing the point of the post. Even if consoles are lol evolving into PCs perhaps they should keep gaming and silly features like being able to view photos separate. Why should a version update effect absolutely everything on the PS3? i bet they have a valid technical reason but it dose not change the fact its very frustrating. Especially lately with CODMW2 having 3 updates in a row and now this.
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#16 thunderf00t
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Consoles are evolving into more than just gaming machines. No amount of complaining is going to change that so you'd better get used to it.

BZSIN
The squeeky wheel gets the oil. At the very least we could pester Sony into making fewer updates that do more all at once.
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#17 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Buy a 360?

jwsoul
Tempting but i think not paying for online is not my thing.

So you should get a 360 since you just said not paying for online is not your thing.............. And yes i know what you meant, but reading what you type is a great thing to do. Anyway how are these updates bad? Do you remember when once consoles were made there were absolutely no upgrades ever.... Yeah 90% of the updates you may not want or use, but that 10% is better then the 0% you used to get last console generation or before. I have never understood when people get upset when they get more rather then less....... No matter how much people get they will always complain.....
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#18 Reemer99
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Free service means putting up with the features that you aren't fond of and updates, so deal with it.

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#19 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Buy a 360?

Agent_Kaliaver
Tempting but i think not paying for online is not my thing.

So you should get a 360 since you just said not paying for online is not your thing.............. And yes i know what you meant, but reading what you type is a great thing to do. Anyway how are these updates bad? Do you remember when once consoles were made there were absolutely no upgrades ever.... Yeah 90% of the updates you may not want or use, but that 10% is better then the 0% you used to get last console generation or before. I have never understood when people get upset when they get more rather then less....... No matter how much people get they will always complain.....

Then that 10% lets say the 10% thats is necessary for games should be the only part i have to download. Not they rest of this rubbish. Its not more when you do not want or require it. As for the typing mistake yeah thats a bit of a mess up :) but to be fair i am sat here dying from the flu i can hardly be bothered to hold my head up. not alone correct that sorry.
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#20 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Yes the features they provide are lol.... But the update is not and in most cases they can take a while to download.jwsoul

Yeah, but is waiting really a problem that you had to make a thread about it?

Patience is a virtue, you know.

No it is a problem your missing the point of the post. i play games on my PS3 as do the vast majority owners i do not see why we have to download updates that have nothing todo with the gameplaying features of the PS3. Bad design choice is the only thing i can think of!

Oh, well you can't really complain about something that's free.

It's free stuff.

It's like ads on a website... if you want to remove the ads (read: annoyances) then you have to go premium and pay up, so like I said, you might as well just buy a 360.

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#21 jwsoul
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Free service means putting up with the features that you aren't fond of and updates, so deal with it.

Reemer99
No.... Well i guess i will have to in a fashion but just because something that is free that should be free comes with a bunch of garbage dose not make it ok. Yet again why should people who only use there PS3 for gaming or the browsers be forced to download updates like Facebook. It hardly makes sense that the PS3 was designed this way. Oh and Firefox on my PC is a free service and so are many other things they do nto force software down my throat.
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#22 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="BZSIN"]

Consoles are evolving into more than just gaming machines. No amount of complaining is going to change that so you'd better get used to it.

jwsoul
If thats the case then perhaps they should remember not everyone can get highspeed broadband and YOU are also missing the point of the post. Even if consoles are lol evolving into PCs perhaps they should keep gaming and silly features like being able to view photos separate. Why should a version update effect absolutely everything on the PS3? i bet they have a valid technical reason but it dose not change the fact its very frustrating. Especially lately with CODMW2 having 3 updates in a row and now this.

Ok so you don't want the ability to watch movies on your PS3? You don't want the ability to use headsets because those are communication devices not entirely made for gaming so they should not be attached to anything gaming.........
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#23 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="BZSIN"]

Consoles are evolving into more than just gaming machines. No amount of complaining is going to change that so you'd better get used to it.

Agent_Kaliaver
If thats the case then perhaps they should remember not everyone can get highspeed broadband and YOU are also missing the point of the post. Even if consoles are lol evolving into PCs perhaps they should keep gaming and silly features like being able to view photos separate. Why should a version update effect absolutely everything on the PS3? i bet they have a valid technical reason but it dose not change the fact its very frustrating. Especially lately with CODMW2 having 3 updates in a row and now this.

Ok so you don't want the ability to watch movies on your PS3? You don't want the ability to use headsets because those are communication devices not entirely made for gaming so they should not be attached to anything gaming.........

Your being silly now. No the communication devices are a direct link to gaming and if that 10% included that download thats great. But yeah movies why do i need to update to watch movies? I should only have todo that if i want to not be forced to update.
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#24 Reemer99
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Your being silly now. No the communication devices are a direct link to gaming and if that 10% included that download thats great. But yeah movies why do i need to update to watch movies? I should only have todo that if i want to not be forced to update. jwsoul

Sony linked Facebook to gaming and that is why it is included in this update. Netflix is just a really nice perk for the majority of PS3 owners that use the service. Typically with all these updates, they are improving things directly related to gaming. Yes it would be nice if they allowed you to pick and choose which updates you want but that would just cause issues for tech support because everyone's dashboard would be different.

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#25 Shad0ki11
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Want some cheese with that whine?

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#26 King9999
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Sony markets the PS3 as an "all-in-one" entertainment centre. Hence the tagline: it only does everything.

The average gamer might not care about things like facebook, but you aren't being forced to use it. Also, those updates fix various issues that aren't usually documented. Notice how the friends list looks better now?

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#27 Denji
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If you have problems going online with MW2, you can blame Infinity Ward for that. Not Sony.

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#28 shadowkiller11
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Yeah, but is waiting really a problem that you had to make a thread about it?

Patience is a virtue, you know.

Scianix-Black

No it is a problem your missing the point of the post. i play games on my PS3 as do the vast majority owners i do not see why we have to download updates that have nothing todo with the gameplaying features of the PS3. Bad design choice is the only thing i can think of!

Oh, well you can't really complain about something that's free.

It's free stuff.

It's like ads on a website... if you want to remove the ads (read: annoyances) then you have to go premium and pay up, so like I said, you might as well just buy a 360.

But thats also got Facebook and features that does not relate at all to gaming.
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#29 supa_badman
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*RUMOUR*

NEXT FIRMWARE UPDATE GIVES YOU AN EXTRA SOUL! *gasp!* :shock:

OMG, selling soul for 50 pounds of chocolate am confirmed.

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#30 x_xion_
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who cares it takes like 5 min for it to download why u crying

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#31 GrandJury
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While I agree some of the updates are iffy, the service is free. They are trying to please people as much as they can. The 360 has facebook and netflix that people like so the PS3 adds them. YOU may not like the facebook feature but some people will. Yes there is no private in game chat yet but I say that one day it will come. Think of it this way, for a free service it is damn good.
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#32 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] No it is a problem your missing the point of the post. i play games on my PS3 as do the vast majority owners i do not see why we have to download updates that have nothing todo with the gameplaying features of the PS3. Bad design choice is the only thing i can think of! shadowkiller11

Oh, well you can't really complain about something that's free.

It's free stuff.

It's like ads on a website... if you want to remove the ads (read: annoyances) then you have to go premium and pay up, so like I said, you might as well just buy a 360.

But thats also got Facebook and features that does not relate at all to gaming.

Then you're screwed.

Either use the service that forces you to pay for those annoyances, or use the service that doesn't, but whichever you choose, you can't complain because that's your choice.

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#33 shadowkiller11
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[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Oh, well you can't really complain about something that's free.

It's free stuff.

It's like ads on a website... if you want to remove the ads (read: annoyances) then you have to go premium and pay up, so like I said, you might as well just buy a 360.

Scianix-Black

But thats also got Facebook and features that does not relate at all to gaming.

Then you're screwed.

Either use the service that forces you to pay for those annoyances, or use the service that doesn't, but whichever you choose, you can't complain because that's your choice.

I agree
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#34 nitsud_19
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Buy a 360?

jwsoul

Tempting but i think not paying for online is not my thing.

Lol, if you didnt know already 360 has Facebook and Twitter. Just dont use them, i dont.

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Want some cheese with that whine?

Shad0ki11
I couldn't help but lol :P
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#36 M0wen10
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I thought the latest update sucked too

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#37 2beers_in_hand
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Here's a tissue pal. Who really cares if you don't care for facebook or reorganized pictures, somepeople might want those. If you don't like them don't use them its that simple.

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#38 brownwhale
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[QUOTE="BZSIN"]

Consoles are evolving into more than just gaming machines. No amount of complaining is going to change that so you'd better get used to it.

jwsoul
If thats the case then perhaps they should remember not everyone can get highspeed broadband and YOU are also missing the point of the post. Even if consoles are lol evolving into PCs perhaps they should keep gaming and silly features like being able to view photos separate. Why should a version update effect absolutely everything on the PS3? i bet they have a valid technical reason but it dose not change the fact its very frustrating. Especially lately with CODMW2 having 3 updates in a row and now this.

Maybe if your internet speed isn't fast, you shouldn't be playing online and lagging up servers. You said that you just play online but you complain about slow internet and download of updates. Sorry but there are easy solutions to your problem, one thing I do agree with is making updates optional, that should be the norm and its not, they force features you may not want onto your console and make you download them to enjoy the online, I understand some stability updates, but we shouldn't be forced to download them. Though usually all the updates are great features even if not for gaming, they make the console all around easier of better for those actually using all the features that came with the 600$ machine. You sound like you would enjoy PC gaming more considering your attitude toward Sony COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEMS updates. Not a console or gaming system. I like Sony's definition.
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#39 brownwhale
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Sony's title*
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#40 MFbronz
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well id say get a 360 but seeing as i does the same thing with facebook and im sure nintendo is gonna do the same thing sooner or later...get a last get system where you dont have to deal with it. or get a pc...or stop bit%%ing about it...or sue em like that one guy.

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#41 jerkface96
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yea all i want is cross game chat, so when im playing my rpgs such as Demon souls or Dragon AGe, i wont feel alone haha.

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#47 Rakuho
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Sony wants to live up to the "it only does everything" slogan :lol: ... at least in media/electronic sense. but anyway, i see what you're saying: here you are, trying to play a game online and then you're forced to download a mandatory firmware update that includes, what you mostly find to be, pointless features. That's understandable. After all, why should you be interrupted by something like installing Facebook when all you want to do is play games... With that said, (1) there are people who actually find these updates useful (let's not forget that PSN is a community). Sony wouldn't bother adding these features/functions if they weren't popular, and/or if they wouldn't improve overall functionality by either adding an element of customization or improving current system efficiency or accessibility; and (2) these updates are fairly infrequent and don't take all day to download/install. So yes, i share your sentiments, but at the same time, this issue is so minuscule that i don't even bother giving it any thought...
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#48 TJSAGE
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I think the thread starter is just alittle pissed as I am about it being 3 years after its launch and the updates for the most part are minimal. it took forever to get a working ingame xmb and other minor options that should have been added in at launch.....

3 years later and we have 10-15 classics while other consoles have hundreds.....

No ingame chat, No univeral in game music....these are day 1 options

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#49 x-2tha-z
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I just wish they'd release less firmware updates, or find a way to make them download and install faster. It's crazy how long it takes to update the PS3's firmware.
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#50 RedCat65
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Yeah, but is waiting really a problem that you had to make a thread about it?

Patience is a virtue, you know.

Scianix-Black

No it is a problem your missing the point of the post. i play games on my PS3 as do the vast majority owners i do not see why we have to download updates that have nothing todo with the gameplaying features of the PS3. Bad design choice is the only thing i can think of!

Oh, well you can't really complain about something that's free.

It's free stuff.

It's like ads on a website... if you want to remove the ads (read: annoyances) then you have to go premium and pay up, so like I said, you might as well just buy a 360.

No you get an addon like Adblock or something, and the Xbox 360 get's updates too so your point is invalid, you pay for Xbox but you'll still have to download updates to go online just as much as PSN.