PSP-4000 series

No picture just an announcement from a retailer. Could be a mistake.

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Let the speculation begin.

Im seems fake, but its obvious that sony is working on a new model in their line for psp's.

Well thats not promising. I think sony should have a sucessor and not another reiteration of the old design. Its going to make consumers pick the 3DS since it is beginning to be considered a successor to the DS, and people dont want anything old especially if its techonology. Also after so many in the gaming industry have seen the 3DS, they will be underwelmed if this isnt flat out SPECTACULAR.

Well crap, I just bought a 3000. Meh. I can't think of anything they could add/fix, except possibly making Internet faster and doing something so the screen doesn't magnetically attract every bit of dust, dandruff and spit.

Well crap, I just bought a 3000. Meh. I can't think of anything they could add/fix, except possibly making Internet faster and doing something so the screen doesn't magnetically attract every bit of dust, dandruff and spit.

Fusionmix

SD card support would be a nice addition. Sony added a combination SD/MS slot to its whole line of digital cameras a little while back.

I wouldnt rely on this article entirely; doesn't seem promising.

I think it looks promising in that there is going to be a new iteration of the psp, just is it going to be a revamp or a revision?

I just wish Sony would say an announcement that they are going to release something and give us the details at GC or TGS like nintendo did for the 3DS back in March.

I don't think Sony'd do that (by that I mean announce it early on) unless it's a major revamp. I see this more as a psp sales booster.

I'll believe it when I see it!jordonj

If this is true about Sony putting out another existing PSP model instead of having a real successor, then Sony has dug their grave further deeper in the handheld market.

Nintendo would obliterate them with the 3DS if this happens.

The only thing I could see this having is bluetooth, other than that... Nope, not getting any ideas.

Well thats not promising. I think sony should have a sucessor and not another reiteration of the old design. Its going to make consumers pick the 3DS since it is beginning to be considered a successor to the DS, and people dont want anything old especially if its techonology. Also after so many in the gaming industry have seen the 3DS, they will be underwelmed if this isnt flat out SPECTACULAR.

damann22

I am in agreement. Plus the 3000 is a great handheld. I would invest resources in the Sony 3DS competitor system.

I could see them always calling the PSP the PSP, and then just doing upgrades with the model number. The PSP 4000 could be what they call the PSP 2.

I could see them always calling the PSP the PSP, and then just doing upgrades with the model number. The PSP 4000 could be what they call the PSP 2.

Phoenix534

You give me those bloody dual analogue sticks we've been asking for and I'm sold.

The only thing I could see this having is bluetooth, other than that... Nope, not getting any ideas.

Granpire

[QUOTE="Fusionmix"]

Well crap, I just bought a 3000. Meh. I can't think of anything they could add/fix, except possibly making Internet faster and doing something so the screen doesn't magnetically attract every bit of dust, dandruff and spit.

ThePlothole

SD card support would be a nice addition. Sony added a combination SD/MS slot to its whole line of digital cameras a little while back.

Either the 4000 shouldn't exist, or it should be an upgrade worth calling the PSP2.

1. fix the interlacing issue of the screen present on ALL PSP 3000 versions. (google or youtube it) 2. Faster clock speeds and more internal memory 3. SD cards support 4. Blue tooth functionality and the ability to pair with a dualshock via blue tooth or mini USB port and NO, you don't need the PS3 in between to use the ds controllers for games. 5. Fix the TV output and make it fullscreen on most HDTVs and fix the aspect ratio of the PSP TV output (YES! Make circles actually circles and not wide ovals [strectched sideways]) 6. In A PSP-3000 form factor or a slightly bigger Go with UMD drive. Sounds more realistic right? Are these too much to ask from Sony? Heck, I'm willing to spend $ 249.99 on such a thing and I don't even have a PS3 yet :)j2zon2591

1. Fair enough.

2. This probably won't happen, simply because it would only raise costs, and the small speed boost would be minimal at best. The hardware of the system only needs to be as powerful as the games for it, so speed probably won't change until the next iteration. But I could be wrong...

3. It won't happen. Sony has always been very exclusive about their storage media, and more importantly, it makes them money. Sad, but true.

4. That's what I meant, quite a probable feature, and a nice one at that. :)

5. For one, fullscreen would look worse than the already-stretched picture from the PSP's relatively small screen resolution. It would be interesting, however, to see a faster, bigger and better PSP capable of outputting higher screen resolutions, even to the point of fullscreen on an HDTV. If that's possible, that is. Hmmm...

6. That is an interesting proposition... I would like to see a 3000-style PSP with an internal memory, or a Go with a UMD, :P same thing really.

I hope I don't sound too rude, I'm just trying to discuss what features would be good in a PSP 4000. :D Your points were good.

Graphics upgrades, battery upgrades, a better power button (that thing is crap, sometimes it just goes to sleep instead of turning off), the list goes on as far as what they could improve (to Plothole).millerjs1986

Graphical updates would make it a successor. This only appears to be another model of the existing PSP.

That power switch is rather annoying. Especially since mine has gotten a bit loose and tends to jump into the "hold" position when I flick it on.

I also don't see any problem with the PSP's power button, I would go crazy if it stopped going into sleep mode! There's nothing better than being able to resume your game at any time. :)

3. It won't happen. Sony has always been very exclusive about their storage media, and more importantly, it makes them money. Sad, but true.

Granpire

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, Sony has added support for SD in their recent digital cameras. I think they realize that Memory Stick is ultimately going to be a dead end format.

If this is true about Sony putting out another existing PSP model instead of having a real successor, then Sony has dug their grave further deeper in the handheld market.

Nintendo would obliterate them with the 3DS if this happens.

garland51

Enough with PSP revisions. Just make the successor that has actual good software support.

[QUOTE="j2zon2591"]1. fix the interlacing issue of the screen present on ALL PSP 3000 versions. (google or youtube it) 2. Faster clock speeds and more internal memory 3. SD cards support 4. Blue tooth functionality and the ability to pair with a dualshock via blue tooth or mini USB port and NO, you don't need the PS3 in between to use the ds controllers for games. 5. Fix the TV output and make it fullscreen on most HDTVs and fix the aspect ratio of the PSP TV output (YES! Make circles actually circles and not wide ovals [strectched sideways]) 6. In A PSP-3000 form factor or a slightly bigger Go with UMD drive. Sounds more realistic right? Are these too much to ask from Sony? Heck, I'm willing to spend $ 249.99 on such a thing and I don't even have a PS3 yet :)Granpire

1. Fair enough.

2. This probably won't happen, simply because it would only raise costs, and the small speed boost would be minimal at best. The hardware of the system only needs to be as powerful as the games for it, so speed probably won't change until the next iteration. But I could be wrong...

3. It won't happen. Sony has always been very exclusive about their storage media, and more importantly, it makes them money. Sad, but true.

4. That's what I meant, quite a probable feature, and a nice one at that. :)

5. For one, fullscreen would look worse than the already-stretched picture from the PSP's relatively small screen resolution. It would be interesting, however, to see a faster, bigger and better PSP capable of outputting higher screen resolutions, even to the point of fullscreen on an HDTV. If that's possible, that is. Hmmm...

6. That is an interesting proposition... I would like to see a 3000-style PSP with an internal memory, or a Go with a UMD, :P same thing really.

I hope I don't sound too rude, I'm just trying to discuss what features would be good in a PSP 4000. :D Your points were good.

@Granpire

1. ok

2. It depends on how much power you want to put in the next one. Technology has taken off in the handheld market since the first psp that putting something standard in the psp2 would still make a worthwhile difference. Look at the specs of the iphone or android and you can easily see that putting something higher then those wouldnt cost all that much.

3. Yea sony didnt even support HDDVD and instead made their own format, like the betamax. I dont think sony will support someone else.
4. Im with both of you on this. It would raise sales of the dualshock3 and any psp holder.

5. I think the cropped output is fine like Granpire said since it would make many games look horrible as the tv screen gets bigger.

6. if its a psp4000 then keep the umd but have like 4-8gbs of internal memory (sony would probably have 4 since most bundles have 4 standard now). If its the psp2 then expect no umd drive.

3. Yea sony didnt even support HDDVD and instead made their own format, like the betamax. I dont think sony will support someone else.

damann22

But Sony did eventually let go of Betamax and started producing their own VHS players and movies on VHS. And again, they are already supporting SD in their latest cameras.

[QUOTE="j2zon2591"]1. fix the interlacing issue of the screen present on ALL PSP 3000 versions. (google or youtube it) 2. Faster clock speeds and more internal memory 3. SD cards support 4. Blue tooth functionality and the ability to pair with a dualshock via blue tooth or mini USB port and NO, you don't need the PS3 in between to use the ds controllers for games. 5. Fix the TV output and make it fullscreen on most HDTVs and fix the aspect ratio of the PSP TV output (YES! Make circles actually circles and not wide ovals [strectched sideways]) 6. In A PSP-3000 form factor or a slightly bigger Go with UMD drive. Sounds more realistic right? Are these too much to ask from Sony? Heck, I'm willing to spend $ 249.99 on such a thing and I don't even have a PS3 yet :)Granpire

1. Fair enough.

2. This probably won't happen, simply because it would only raise costs, and the small speed boost would be minimal at best. The hardware of the system only needs to be as powerful as the games for it, so speed probably won't change until the next iteration. But I could be wrong...

3. It won't happen. Sony has always been very exclusive about their storage media, and more importantly, it makes them money. Sad, but true.

4. That's what I meant, quite a probable feature, and a nice one at that. :)

5. For one, fullscreen would look worse than the already-stretched picture from the PSP's relatively small screen resolution. It would be interesting, however, to see a faster, bigger and better PSP capable of outputting higher screen resolutions, even to the point of fullscreen on an HDTV. If that's possible, that is. Hmmm...

6. That is an interesting proposition... I would like to see a 3000-style PSP with an internal memory, or a Go with a UMD, :P same thing really.

I hope I don't sound too rude, I'm just trying to discuss what features would be good in a PSP 4000. :D Your points were good.

This is why I can't sell my phat, the used market is flooded with old models as people buy new ones which then sell those when they get bored the next month. PSP is almost as bad as the iphone. How many versions will there be!Sins-of-Mosin

I wish all of these companies would buy back their old systems and donate them to countries in Africa and South America. It would benefit the industry and so many ways.

[QUOTE="Granpire"]

3. It won't happen. Sony has always been very exclusive about their storage media, and more importantly, it makes them money. Sad, but true.

ThePlothole

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, Sony has added support for SD in their recent digital cameras. I think they realize that Memory Stick is ultimately going to be a dead end format.

It cost too much!!

2. It depends on how much power you want to put in the next one. Technology has taken off in the handheld market since the first psp that putting something standard in the psp2 would still make a worthwhile difference. Look at the specs of the iphone or android and you can easily see that putting something higher then those wouldnt cost all that much.

damann22

I totally agree with you, but my points were all very specific about the 4000. As we've seen with the PS3 in the past, very small hardware changes could boost performance a bit, especially with load times and things such as web browsing. I think most small speed issues the PSP has, however, could be easily resolved through software solutions, and long load times are mostly just a development problem. Of course, the PSP2 wouldn't be just another PSP, and I'll expect some great portable graphics in the PSP2. :) As well as a higher price tag, of course.

[QUOTE="damann22"]

2. It depends on how much power you want to put in the next one. Technology has taken off in the handheld market since the first psp that putting something standard in the psp2 would still make a worthwhile difference. Look at the specs of the iphone or android and you can easily see that putting something higher then those wouldnt cost all that much.

Granpire

I totally agree with you, but my points were all very specific about the 4000. As we've seen with the PS3 in the past, very small hardware changes could boost performance a bit, especially with load times and things such as web browsing. I think most small speed issues the PSP has, however, could be easily resolved through software solutions, and long load times are mostly just a development problem. Of course, the PSP2 wouldn't be just another PSP, and I'll expect some great portable graphics in the PSP2. :) As well as a higher price tag, of course.

It all does come down to the software. Each console and handheld has growing pains at the beginning of their launches for a few years until they truly grow into their owns. However, like you said, its more important for developers continue patronizing the system and get better with the architecture. The ps3 was very difficult to develop for at the beginning but now its florished as more developers understand its architecture.

I think that the psp2 should essentially have the same architecture but with higher specs. Or have the same architecture as the ps3 but with lower specs made for a handheld so that developers can really utilize its capablilities.

What i dont understand is why arent more people in the industry getting behind the psp. It takes less money to develop for the psp and yet you can still have a console game on it (i.e. Peace Walker).

[QUOTE="Granpire"]

[QUOTE="damann22"]

2. It depends on how much power you want to put in the next one. Technology has taken off in the handheld market since the first psp that putting something standard in the psp2 would still make a worthwhile difference. Look at the specs of the iphone or android and you can easily see that putting something higher then those wouldnt cost all that much.

damann22

I totally agree with you, but my points were all very specific about the 4000. As we've seen with the PS3 in the past, very small hardware changes could boost performance a bit, especially with load times and things such as web browsing. I think most small speed issues the PSP has, however, could be easily resolved through software solutions, and long load times are mostly just a development problem. Of course, the PSP2 wouldn't be just another PSP, and I'll expect some great portable graphics in the PSP2. :) As well as a higher price tag, of course.

It all does come down to the software. Each console and handheld has growing pains at the beginning of their launches for a few years until they truly grow into their owns. However, like you said, its more important for developers continue patronizing the system and get better with the architecture. The ps3 was very difficult to develop for at the beginning but now its florished as more developers understand its architecture.

I think that the psp2 should essentially have the same architecture but with higher specs. Or have the same architecture as the ps3 but with lower specs made for a handheld so that developers can really utilize its capablilities.

What i dont understand is why arent more people in the industry getting behind the psp. It takes less money to develop for the psp and yet you can still have a console game on it (i.e. Peace Walker).

I think the hacking of the 1000 was a major issue. Plus the DS Lite was a really good looking system. Even though I love the PSP, the DS Lites physical design was better than the PSP 1000 & the PSP 2000 took so long to come out. Thats why it is important Sony time their system right. Because a lot of gamers are on the fence for the Gen 7 Phase 2 handhelds. Even though the Phase 1 system seemed a lil one sided with PSP having 1/3rd of the market.