Ratchet and Clank - I'm Really Starting to Hate This Game

TC, you tell us to get a life? We're gamers, we have LOTS of lives!

[QUOTE="pigsybum"]

It's the first time i heard about R&C being hard.

The game consist of two main elements: Shoot them up and Platforming.

I love the game myself, and didnt get stuck, found the platforming fun also, i guess this game just isn't for you.

I played devil may cry and got stuck a couple times, just refer to some walkthroughs and go through ur game, ull do fine.

jeffbase33

I never said the game was hard. I said I am frustrated with the save points. I was tired that night, and turned off the game. I saved it. Little did I know that I would have to repeat 30 freaking minutes of gameplay! They did the same crap on the level where you have to fight through the arena which takes a long time to complete.

Jumping puzzles are just stupid. I shouldnt have to restart just because I jumped a second too late. I guess it adds some tension, but that doesn't equal fun to me.

lol, i was laughing with you coz its funny that you got so frustrated, i can picture the look on your face. we all get frustrated like this at gaming from time to time.

but then you said this:

THis is just unacceptable, and a cheap way for developers to make games appear to last longer. There is absolutely no excuse for forcing gamers to do this. Now I will be afraid to turn off my game since I don't know where it will truly save.jeffbase33

and i started laughing at you. dude come on, its not some kind of lame marketing conspiracy to have games play out like that. its quite simply the genre they fall into. Puzzle/platformer game. what would you prefer, if you fall off the edge for some magic super happy fun fairy to whisk you back up to where you fell, without punishing your silly or unco-ordinated gimpy mistake? wheres the challenge in that? wheres the point in that? where the fun in that? i got pages of these, i could keep goin. ;)

i get what you mean with the whole saving thing, a fell trap to it once and it was kinda annoying, but the game itself is so fun and interesting, its not THAT bad to have to replay it a bit. basically, if you turn the game off, you have to restart the entire level again. i think... pretty sure. so finish the level first.

It's not that at all.

Even my 3 year old son plays this game and he is pretty good, I just have to tell him to press a certain button to make the guns work.

[QUOTE="Gebrechlichkeit"]LOL! I think you just suck at the game... so blame yourself because the game is very easy (but a lot of fun).jeffbase33

This either has to be a 14 year old saying this, or a drunk. (And yes I grand thee permission to mod me.)

The perspective box escapes Jeffbase33.

Whatever pal. SOme of us actually have lives and can't just sit in front of the tv 6 hours straight. IF the game is around 12 hours and you beat it in 2 days, that means you don't have much responsibility.

Let me get this straight.

You purchased a platformer, and don't like the platforming elements? Or am I missing something? If so please enlighten me.

SSCyborg

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Let me get this straight.

You purchased a platformer, and don't like the platforming elements? Or am I missing something? If so please enlighten me.

Chaos_Bladez

Hold that thought. I have to sig that before it gets modded! XD

[QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Let me get this straight.

You purchased a platformer, and don't like the platforming elements? Or am I missing something? If so please enlighten me.

Symphonycometh

Hold that thought. I have to sig that before it gets modded! XD

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die. Are you saying you NEVER time a jumping sequence wrong? Geez, you people are so arrogant and rude on here.

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die. Are you saying you NEVER time a jumping sequence wrong? Geez, you people are so arrogant and rude on here.

jeffbase33

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die. Are you saying you NEVER time a jumping sequence wrong? Geez, you people are so arrogant and rude on here.

jeffbase33

Umm the save point sections in the game arn't too bad. besides it should only take you like 30 - 45 mins per planet ... and so what if you mis-timed a jump ... just spend 5 mins to run back to that point and make the jump ...

If you just try you'll find the next time your playing through the game that section will be easy ...

[QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die. Are you saying you NEVER time a jumping sequence wrong? Geez, you people are so arrogant and rude on here.

Symphonycometh

I think you are full of crap. You are telling me you blew through the whole game and never died once. Amazing.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die. Are you saying you NEVER time a jumping sequence wrong? Geez, you people are so arrogant and rude on here.

jeffbase33

I think you are full of crap. You are telling me you blew through the whole game and never died once. Amazing.

Your perspective box is crap. I've never missed a jump (Hear that? JUMP) in Ratchet and Clank because for hardcore gamers, the game IS watered down for little kids to play and beat. You're basically asking me if I made a mistake in an above-par casual game.

I'm telling you: Play Shadows of the Colossus! That game is the reason why I haven't fallen yet. In fact, play Mario 64 man.

Screw it with the words.

Sky Rail

Final rush.

This game does almost everything Ratchet and Clank does, only quicker and more intense and I can almost easily breeze through them. That is why we're on different sides of the gate. Notice how much quicker the grinding is.

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die.

jeffbase33

Wrong. It has everything to do with this type of game. If you can't gauge distance, or you have bad timing, then of course you'll miss the jump and die.

Confusing isn't it?

[QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die.

AnFangs_Endes

Wrong. It has everything to do with this type of game. If you can't gauge distance, or you have bad timing, then of course you'll miss the jump and die.

Confusing isn't it?

I'm telling you Fangs, this guy/girl wouldn't survive through a stage of Sonic Adventure 2.

[QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die.

AnFangs_Endes

Oh please. SOme of the landscapes are dark and you can't really tell if you are falling into water or soup. There is some trial and error in the game. Stop lying. It makes you look bad.

Wrong. It has everything to do with this type of game. If you can't gauge distance, or you have bad timing, then of course you'll miss the jump and die.

Confusing isn't it?

[QUOTE="AnFangs_Endes"][QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die.

Symphonycometh

Wrong. It has everything to do with this type of game. If you can't gauge distance, or you have bad timing, then of course you'll miss the jump and die.

Confusing isn't it?

I'm telling you Fangs, this guy/girl wouldn't survive through a stage of Sonic Adventure 2.

And you probably wouldn't survive in a game of Starcraft with me. You know, games that require brains.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="AnFangs_Endes"][QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Skill ability has nothing to do with this type of game. You miss a jump, you die.

jeffbase33

Wrong. It has everything to do with this type of game. If you can't gauge distance, or you have bad timing, then of course you'll miss the jump and die.

Confusing isn't it?

I'm telling you Fangs, this guy/girl wouldn't survive through a stage of Sonic Adventure 2.

And you probably wouldn't survive in a game of Starcraft with me. You know, games that require brains.

Now I know this is a kid. I play more than just one genre. Didn't you glance at my reviews at puzzle games like ICO (Legend, by the way), Shadows of the Colossus, among several other games and several other genres? Do you even know what those games are about, or are you just using a corny way of trying to insult me?

No. You didn't. And screw Starcraft. I bet you I can beat you at Chess...you know, old school. (Which I do believe requires more than just "A brain".

Don't generalize me. You'll survive better.

YOU wouldn't survive a stage in Sonic.

YOU wouldn't survive in puzzle/action game Shadows of the Colossus.

YOU wouldn't make any jumps in the puzzle master game ICO.

YOU can't survive Ratchet and Clank, obviously.

YOU have me in Starcraft. ;)

You do the math. I only know one group of people who would make the mistake at thinking platformers don't require a bit of a brain.

Now, because you sound like you're inexperienced with "people", I'm going to hold back on flaming you completely and hope no one does it for me. So I'm going to tell you this as rude as I can:

Shut up with your narrow minded opinion on the genre and open your mind to "other" things. Believe me, it's funner playing more than 1 or 2 types of games all the time. And if by some method you do play other genres, stop flaming the ones you don't like and even implying they don't require a brain. If you want to comment back, make sure it doesn't contradict itself, alright?

^^ / Thread ;)CellAnimation

I hope so. This argument serves as no challenge.

I had a very hard time with that level also, especially when you have the guy firing the turret at you while you're surrounded by 20 pirates with shields. The game is getting hard and frustrating for me also.DSPX

[QUOTE="DSPX"]I had a very hard time with that level also, especially when you have the guy firing the turret at you while you're surrounded by 20 pirates with shields. The game is getting hard and frustrating for me also.-ArchAngeL-777-

I have to protest that opinion on Sonic. Maybe Mario you have a point to a degree, but after playing Sky Rail on hard mode where it's INSTANT death for you missing switching rails on time, it's not going to work too well. Not to mention in Clank, you have like 10 seconds to switch rails before getting "hurt". In Sonic, you have to switch with instinct and instant or face death from falling, going much faster than R&C.

Dude, your stuck in ratchet and clank? :lol: I beat that game in two days, and had the ryno on the third.the_new_neo

I share the same thoughts... lol This was by far one of the easiest PS3 games out yet. Except maybe for Heavenly Sword.

[QUOTE="the_new_neo"]Dude, your stuck in ratchet and clank? :lol: I beat that game in two days, and had the ryno on the third.A3trix

I share the same thoughts... lol This was by far one of the easiest PS3 games out yet. Except maybe for Heavenly Sword.

*Gets ready to point finger.*

....

:|

You may have a point. Heavenly Sword's Hell Mode was quite easy.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="DSPX"]I had a very hard time with that level also, especially when you have the guy firing the turret at you while you're surrounded by 20 pirates with shields. The game is getting hard and frustrating for me also.Symphonycometh

I have to protest that opinion on Sonic. Maybe Mario you have a point to a degree, but after playing Sky Rail on hard mode where it's INSTANT death for you missing switching rails on time, it's not going to work too well. Not to mention in Clank, you have like 10 seconds to switch rails before getting "hurt". In Sonic, you have to switch with instinct and instant or face death from falling, going much faster than R&C.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="DSPX"]I had a very hard time with that level also, especially when you have the guy firing the turret at you while you're surrounded by 20 pirates with shields. The game is getting hard and frustrating for me also.-ArchAngeL-777-

I have to protest that opinion on Sonic. Maybe Mario you have a point to a degree, but after playing Sky Rail on hard mode where it's INSTANT death for you missing switching rails on time, it's not going to work too well. Not to mention in Clank, you have like 10 seconds to switch rails before getting "hurt". In Sonic, you have to switch with instinct and instant or face death from falling, going much faster than R&C.

Dangit you're no fun. You cut any possibility of an argument to 0%. T_T

If you could tell from earlier posts with the OP and me, he wasn't hard to make look bad. :(

Dangit you're no fun. You cut any possibility of an argument to 0%. T_T

If you could tell from earlier posts with the OP and me, he wasn't hard to make look bad. :(

Symphonycometh

I thought it was easy until the last boss. Tried about 5 times, died 5 times then sold it out of frustration lol.Devourment423

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

Dangit you're no fun. You cut any possibility of an argument to 0%. T_T

If you could tell from earlier posts with the OP and me, he wasn't hard to make look bad. :(

-ArchAngeL-777-

Lol. True there. Well...whenever he/she comes back, I can only hope he has this epic post to prove everything I said wrong. Because a challenge is far better than an easy win. Arguments included.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="DSPX"]I had a very hard time with that level also, especially when you have the guy firing the turret at you while you're surrounded by 20 pirates with shields. The game is getting hard and frustrating for me also.Symphonycometh

I have to protest that opinion on Sonic. Maybe Mario you have a point to a degree, but after playing Sky Rail on hard mode where it's INSTANT death for you missing switching rails on time, it's not going to work too well. Not to mention in Clank, you have like 10 seconds to switch rails before getting "hurt". In Sonic, you have to switch with instinct and instant or face death from falling, going much faster than R&C.

Dangit you're no fun. You cut any possibility of an argument to 0%. T_T

If you could tell from earlier posts with the OP and me, he wasn't hard to make look bad. :(

First you turned this thread into a cheat thumping moronic boast, totally derailing the original topic. Did I ever say the game was freaking hard? NO. I said jumping puzzles are ZERO fun. You call it skill? It's called simple memorization. I am going through the game at a steady pace and I am now at the part where I go to the arena for a 2nd time.

I still HATE the save and afraid to turn off the game. If you beat the game in 2 days, that means you played the game nonstop for 12 hours which means you have ZERO responsiblity in life. Grow up.

Bioshock is a great example of how to design a game as challenging, yet always fun and never frustrating. Ratchet is not.

[QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Jump puzzling - Cmon does anyone really enjoy this crap? One bad jump and you fall to your death and have to start over.

AnFangs_Endes

Platforming in a Platforming-game you say?

WHAT AN OUTRAGE!

THIS IS MADNESS!!! :evil:

First you turned this thread into a cheat thumping moronic boast, totally derailing the original topic. Did I ever say the game was freaking hard? NO. I said jumping puzzles are ZERO fun. You call it skill? It's called simple memorization. I am going through the game at a steady pace and I am now at the part where I go to the arena for a 2nd time.

I still HATE the save and afraid to turn off the game. If you beat the game in 2 days, that means you played the game nonstop for 12 hours which means you have ZERO responsiblity in life. Grow up.

Bioshock is a great example of how to design a game as challenging, yet always fun and never frustrating. Ratchet is not.

jeffbase33

Umm...When I said:

"When he comes back..."

You were supposed to have this awesome comeback....not more narrowminded thinking. -_- And no. I remember not dying from some of the SKILLED actions. And no. Once again you're using a 5 year old's mentality and saying:

"If you can beat it in 2 days, then you MUST've played it for 12 hours during school days as well as sustain his 8 hours of sleep Symphony DOES recieve."

You and your topic have become jokes in my eyes and I hope you can get someone on your side, because it's VERY boring talking to you. It's like talking to a wall of jelly. Doesn't want to learn squat. I mean, there's a better chance of me learning something from you before you learn ANYTHING I'm trying to tell you. For that, your mind is of that of a fanboy's level and I don't argue with anyone I dub so.

The best part about this whole thing was:

I never said I liked Ratchet because I find it too slow and easy...with no frustrations.

@Everybody else that has logic left: Anyone up for a random debate? Anything that challenges my mind more than this guy is good.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="DSPX"]I had a very hard time with that level also, especially when you have the guy firing the turret at you while you're surrounded by 20 pirates with shields. The game is getting hard and frustrating for me also.jeffbase33

I have to protest that opinion on Sonic. Maybe Mario you have a point to a degree, but after playing Sky Rail on hard mode where it's INSTANT death for you missing switching rails on time, it's not going to work too well. Not to mention in Clank, you have like 10 seconds to switch rails before getting "hurt". In Sonic, you have to switch with instinct and instant or face death from falling, going much faster than R&C.

Dangit you're no fun. You cut any possibility of an argument to 0%. T_T

If you could tell from earlier posts with the OP and me, he wasn't hard to make look bad. :(

First you turned this thread into a cheat thumping moronic boast, totally derailing the original topic. Did I ever say the game was freaking hard? NO. I said jumping puzzles are ZERO fun. You call it skill? It's called simple memorization. I am going through the game at a steady pace and I am now at the part where I go to the arena for a 2nd time.

I still HATE the save and afraid to turn off the game. If you beat the game in 2 days, that means you played the game nonstop for 12 hours which means you have ZERO responsiblity in life. Grow up.

Bioshock is a great example of how to design a game as challenging, yet always fun and never frustrating. Ratchet is not.

btw Tools of Destruction is a great game, my first game for the PS3 and I'm going through it on challenge mode.

will you just shut the hell up already!!! I mean, you already made your point...you dont like Ratchet cause you suck at it, and now everyones flaming you cause its such an easy game and you're going about telling them they have no life. HA!! I'm the one who's probably going to get modded for this, but the one who should be modded is you.

btw Tools of Destruction is a great game, my first game for the PS3 and I'm going through it on challenge mode.

I_pWnzz_YoU

:lol:

You surely did eat the n00b!

See, I warned the OP not to say such idiotic comments before someone flames him worse than I did. But I'm going to spare my fingers from tpying for this guy and leave it like this:

@Jeffbase: Since you're basically telling everyone the same thing, only funnier, respond as usual, then read this quote:

Now I know this is a kid. I play more than just one genre. Didn't you glance at my reviews at puzzle games like ICO (Legend, by the way), Shadows of the Colossus, among several other games and several other genres? Do you even know what those games are about, or are you just using a corny way of trying to insult me?

No. You didn't. And screw Starcraft. I bet you I can beat you at Chess...you know, old school. (Which I do believe requires more than just "A brain".

Don't generalize me. You'll survive better.

YOU wouldn't survive a stage in Sonic.

YOU wouldn't survive in puzzle/action game Shadows of the Colossus.

YOU wouldn't make any jumps in the puzzle master game ICO.

YOU can't survive Ratchet and Clank, obviously.

YOU have me in Starcraft. ;)

You do the math. I only know one group of people who would make the mistake at thinking platformers don't require a bit of a brain.

Now, because you sound like you're inexperienced with "people", I'm going to hold back on flaming you completely and hope no one does it for me. So I'm going to tell you this as rude as I can:

Shut up with your narrow minded opinion on the genre and open your mind to "other" things. Believe me, it's funner playing more than 1 or 2 types of games all the time. And if by some method you do play other genres, stop flaming the ones you don't like and even implying they don't require a brain. If you want to comment back, make sure it doesn't contradict itself, alright?

Symphonycometh

After you read the quote, repeat your usual statements, read the quote again, and repeat.

R&C was actually pretty easy, but very, very fun. The last boss was pretty easy, I died a few times at first, but he was way easier than some of the final bosses in the earlier games. I can't wait to play it again in challenge mode with all upgrades and weapons, probably gonna be more fun the second time around with higher difficulty and stacked inventory!!

Symphony, I challenge you to a spanking duel!Hububalub2

Dang...that sounds pretty hard.

Though I prefer a duel of swords rather than spankings.:P

r and c has never been frustrating for me, i mean this game is actually one of the games i just play carefree not worrying if i buildup enough power to beat it at the end i just play it enjoy it and then it endsxkal318

I don't need two dozen ppl bashinmg me about how freaking easy this game is. YOur point is made so let it go. My point on the save system is VERY valid.

[QUOTE="xkal318"]r and c has never been frustrating for me, i mean this game is actually one of the games i just play carefree not worrying if i buildup enough power to beat it at the end i just play it enjoy it and then it endsjeffbase33

I don't need two dozen ppl bashinmg me about how freaking easy this game is. YOur point is made so let it go. My point on the save system is VERY valid.

Yeah, the save system is a little sparse but come on dude, the game is so easy you can go thru a level in 15 damn minutes.

I bought Ratchet last year based on the high reviews

jeffbase33

That's where you made a mistake!