R.I.P. Backwards Compatability!

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#51 Kenshigi
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I'm very dissapointed that the 80 gb with bc will no longer be produced. My ps2 no longer plays dvds or ps2 games, I bought it on launch. I was looking foward to buying the MGS4 bundle soon though.
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#52 hakanakumono
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Just buy a PS2, or keep your old one.

If you have one, you're saving on a PS3 (the lack of BC saves you money) and it can run the PS2 and PS1 software better than the PS3 anyways.

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#53 mushi799
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Both my ps2 and ps3 are plugged into my tv. It's a better setup than using my ps3 for everything. I dont have to constantly change disc. To each his own i guess...
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#54 FlashCharge
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For those of us who have a BC console more freedom to us. Things will always change and these changes may not be totally accepted. Lets just hope that the PS stays around for some years to come.
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#55 ThePlothole
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Are you talking about the same NES where you had to blow the cartridge and pray it will work? Durable than the ps2? did you just pull that out of ur ***?

mushi799

The original US version of the NES did have problems. Specifically the the connectors at the back would develop wear as you pushed the cart loader up and down. The top loader that was released later on however was far more reliable. Also, never EVER blow into a cart! That just makes matters worse, since your saliva can cause the connectors to degrade.

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#56 Marked_Man
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since I still have my original Phat PS2,I could careless because I have a 40 GB PS3 anyway.Anyone who got rid if their PS2 is a fool in the first place.
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#57 mushi799
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[QUOTE="mushi799"]

Are you talking about the same NES where you had to blow the cartridge and pray it will work? Durable than the ps2? did you just pull that out of ur ***?

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The original US version of the NES did have problems. The top loader that was released later on however was a lot more reliable. Also, never EVER blow into a cart. That just makes matters worse, since your saliva can cause the connectors to degrade.

I still have my original ps2, so do my friends. No problems whatsoever.The slim ps2 are great oo. There are 100+ million ps2. You'll be fine if your ps2 breaks down. Even if it's the year 3490, you'll still be able to find one.

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#58 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="mushi799"]

Are you talking about the same NES where you had to blow the cartridge and pray it will work? Durable than the ps2? did you just pull that out of ur ***?

mushi799

The original US version of the NES did have problems. The top loader that was released later on however was a lot more reliable. Also, never EVER blow into a cart. That just makes matters worse, since your saliva can cause the connectors to degrade.

I still have my original ps2, so do my friends. No problems whatsoever.The slim ps2 are great oo. There are 100+ million ps2. You'll be fine if your ps2 breaks down. Even if it's the year 3490, you'll still be able to find one.

Your friends have been very lucky. Most of my friends have gone through at least one PS2. As have I.

Also, all laser diodes burn out eventually. They're not meant to last forever.

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#59 Marked_Man
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[QUOTE="mushi799"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="mushi799"]

Are you talking about the same NES where you had to blow the cartridge and pray it will work? Durable than the ps2? did you just pull that out of ur ***?

ThePlothole

The original US version of the NES did have problems. The top loader that was released later on however was a lot more reliable. Also, never EVER blow into a cart. That just makes matters worse, since your saliva can cause the connectors to degrade.

I still have my original ps2, so do my friends. No problems whatsoever.The slim ps2 are great oo. There are 100+ million ps2. You'll be fine if your ps2 breaks down. Even if it's the year 3490, you'll still be able to find one.

Your friends have been very lucky. Most of my friends have gone through at least one PS2. As have I.

Also, all laser diodes burn out eventually. They're not meant to last forever.

Some people just don't know how to take care of consoles.Mine is still going since '01.

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#60 motherboop
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="mushi799"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="mushi799"]

Are you talking about the same NES where you had to blow the cartridge and pray it will work? Durable than the ps2? did you just pull that out of ur ***?

Marked_Man

The original US version of the NES did have problems. The top loader that was released later on however was a lot more reliable. Also, never EVER blow into a cart. That just makes matters worse, since your saliva can cause the connectors to degrade.

I still have my original ps2, so do my friends. No problems whatsoever.The slim ps2 are great oo. There are 100+ million ps2. You'll be fine if your ps2 breaks down. Even if it's the year 3490, you'll still be able to find one.

Your friends have been very lucky. Most of my friends have gone through at least one PS2. As have I.

Also, all laser diodes burn out eventually. They're not meant to last forever.

Some people just don't know how to take care of consoles.Mine is still going since '01.

Haha, my PS2 still works from 02. It barely got any use though, as I went to college soon after I got it. I have it all boxed up now in that ol' blue box. Now I'm 24, and I find myself playing the PS3 everyday after work.
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#61 Leon_Kennedy1
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who cares?

i still have my ps2 in a good shape

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#62 Plasma-Dog
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I don 't really care ecause I just got my PS3 and it has BC but is that really true that they are not going to make PS3 with BC any more. Also they are coming out with a PS3 120 GB that includes Uncharted and Pain. Does that have BC.
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#63 remblade
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I don 't really care ecause I just got my PS3 and it has BC but is that really true that they are not going to make PS3 with BC any more. Also they are coming out with a PS3 120 GB that includes Uncharted and Pain. Does that have BC.Plasma-Dog

It's actually a 160gb model for $500. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/900/900562p1.html

I just bought my MGS4 Bundle Yesterday because I wanted the BC. I have a lot of PS2 games and the convenience of just having one system play both libraries is pretty important to me. Hell if they weren't scrapping the BC from all models I wouldn't have bought one so soon. But I see it as I paid an extra $100 for MGS4, Pain, A Dual Shock, 2 extra usb slots & BC.

I am now one with the Playstation.

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#64 boyinfridge
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BC died nearly a year ago in the UK you yank are really lucky to still have it
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#65 motherboop
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I don 't really care ecause I just got my PS3 and it has BC but is that really true that they are not going to make PS3 with BC any more. Also they are coming out with a PS3 120 GB that includes Uncharted and Pain. Does that have BC.Plasma-Dog
No more BC on the new 80GB core system.. The metal gear bundle is being replaced by a 160GB, not 120, and does include everything you mentioned. That too does not have backwards compatability.
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#66 Falkien06
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Sony did this financially... the PS2 is still alive.. and people still buy it... PS3 is meant for PS3 games... if PS3 played PS2 games then the finance Sony had on PS2 would end without Sony deciding

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#67 email2003
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Bah! I still have 20GB PS3 from November '06 and works fine. I just added a 80GB HDD to it too! I'm glad my PS3 still plays PS1 & PS2 games and astill has the emotion engine/chip which actually makes PS2 games look good and not emulated like the 40GB models.
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#68 Col_Swamp
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i do not care, because i got a 60gb :) and i'm enjoying my ps2 games.Krigon

same!

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#69 AgentH
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The 2 years we spent with "BC" were the best years ever. We both had fun, laughter, joy, happiness and sad moments aswell. And now "BC" is leaving us, I think we could all agree on this one(hopefully) that this day is a sad day for america and for the world. I hereby give my deep condolences to Sony, PS3 fans and fanboys and I wish you a happy ever ending with each others. God bless its soul.
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#70 Cegaiga
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Sad, but at least I can fork out for an old console rather than buying a completely new game :)
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#71 gokuofheaven
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removing BC makes sense because that way they can continue to sell ps2's as well as saving $$$ on production cost for the ps3.

if you can't afford a ps2 and you have a ps3...then you are just being plain dumb.

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#72 whitefirex
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wel, I have the 60gig, and I still have a ps2 and a ps1 still and all are in great condition and working, so i'm good =)
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#73 motherboop
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Bah! I still have 20GB PS3 from November '06 and works fine. I just added a 80GB HDD to it too! I'm glad my PS3 still plays PS1 & PS2 games and astill has the emotion engine/chip which actually makes PS2 games look good and not emulated like the 40GB models.email2003
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, the 20GB is the sexyest looking PS3 out there. It's casing is completely black with no silver or chrome present, and looks dang good.
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#74 kreemghandour
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I have a 60gb which is all cool, but really I dont even use the BC and when I did I got tired of them games in a week. So I think its smart on Sony's part to remove it for saving money on production. Anyway if u want to play bc by a ps2 slim for like 80 bucks or whatever they go for. It is becoming obsolete I tried playing NCAA on ps2 and wow got bored and left PS3 has my eyes adjusted.
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#75 motherboop
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I just can't see how software emulation had to be removed, The graphics synthesizer was costing them next to nothing to put in the 80GB. I'm happy with my emotion engine in my console, but I know a lot of people who wanted a BC PS3, and couldn't afford it quite yet. It seems like the older your PS3 is, the more it's going to be worth.
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#76 Flaming_Smoke
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I have my 80gb with backwards compatability so it doesnt matter, i also got a ps2. And whats the hype about 60gb?? :?

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#77 EVOLV3
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Being a 60gig owner FTW.
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#78 AngeldeLys
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Oh man, I was not even aware they were going to seize backwards compatibility on future systems. Good thing I begin posting on these forums before I make my purchase! If that's the case, I'll get that MGS4 bundle.

I honestly don't understand why they would do this. Given, I still own my original PS1 and have my PS2, but I don't want to have all those systems hooked up in my wall unit, it's already full with my Genesis, N64, Gamecube, and PS2 (to be replaced with PS3), and I don't want to have to re-installing and un-installing my systems all the time in order to play a PS1 or PS2 game.

Backwards compatibility saves alot of time and space. I want to be able to give away my PS2 after I get a PS3. I only kept my PS1 for the mod-chip I installed in it in order to play imports, but I hardly ever play those, so I don't even bother keeping it plugged, all I need to play the vast majority of my library of PS1 games is the most current Playstation system. I always found that to be a great advantage.

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#79 Swift_Boss_A
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I still have my PS2 so it doesn't really effect me, I do feel sad that Sony are completely taking out BC for PS2 but on the bright sie Sony will never abandon BC for the system that put them on the map, I'm talking about the PS1. The moment Sony abandons PS1 compatibility then they would have lost everything :P
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#80 kb8618
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it'll be back when the ps2's cycle is over...logan2k_17
that's exactly what i think will happen.
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#81 Addizzle
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Well I doubt I will be planning on picking up a PS3 anymore. Backwards compatibility was a huge incentive to me, especially since Microsoft let me down with their limited backwards compatibility (which Sony chastised them for). I would play more regular Xbox games on my 360, but I have to go check the compatibility chart to see if I can play whatever title popped into my head, and that's just a hassle. But I have to say, this Sony situation rubs me the wrong way because they just decided to stop making b/c units. It doesn't seem like it drove the price down too much when systems are still 399 and up. I don't know if cutting costs buy removing features, ports and capabilities from a product that has already been on the store shelves is a good strategy at all. If i bought a PS3 today and it had fewer ports and played fewer games than one from a year ago, I would consider that the new one inferior to the old. Jack Trentton admitted that b/c wasn't even that costly. If it doesn't drive up the cost, then there is no reason to remove it. It's just another incentive that can persuade people to purchase a system--and that's not a bad thing considering Sony is still playing catch up. I'm sure it will all work out for Sony though. Maybe I will get lucky and they will change their minds again in another year.

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#82 cdx00
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Good riddance. Here's to look forward and not backward. People seriously need to stop concerning themselves with the fact that most PS3s these days cannot play older PS2 games and spend more time and money on expanding their PS3 libraries. Seriously. What the hell is the point of buying a PS3 to play PS2 games?
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#83 woofie13
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i do not care, because i got a 60gb :) and i'm enjoying my ps2 games.Krigon

same here :D:D:D so happy

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#84 MasterCS
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I love how they took away the BC and the Metal Gear Solid bundle just came out this summer with MGS1,MGS2, and MGS3.
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#85 codezer0
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While I am grateful that i do have a proper 60gig model that works now, I do think it's epically **** up that Sony chose to stab everyone by removing BC altogether. I don't care that the PStwo is still selling hot for them. I don't care that they claim that the PS2 platform will still see production for another three or five years. Ultimately that isn't going to matter, because the thing will certainly die by then and then we'll all be SOL because Sony chose to neuter their PS3's in this manner. Having experienced the bad end of Sony's purported reliability stick, I do not like the fact that I can't get an effective replacement if this PS3 decides it wants to fry up on me at all, and then have to pay another $150 every time for "service." :roll: :evil:
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#86 codezer0
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Good riddance. Here's to look forward and not backward. People seriously need to stop concerning themselves with the fact that most PS3s these days cannot play older PS2 games and spend more time and money on expanding their PS3 libraries. Seriously. What the hell is the point of buying a PS3 to play PS2 games?cdx00
They look better on a BC ps3 than they do on an actual PS2; some even play faster thanks to automatic upscaling on the part of the ps3.
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#87 Dark_Gamer11
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Being a 60gig owner FTW.EVOLV3

This.

TC I know what you mean man, I have a large PS2 library and since I don't have much space it is a lot more convienient to have one system to play PS1/2/3 games on rather than two. Plus that gives you just one set of controllers, and no physical memory cards. I understand why they are taking it out though, and it seems a majority (at least in this board) could care less. Just glad I got my BC haha 

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#88 Dogswithguns
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Okay by me cuz I have th 60gb. also have a PS2. no probm.
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#89 deactivated-58319077a6477
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I own the 60 GB so I'm doing fine:) Maybe in the next gen they will add them again.
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#90 Knivez0r
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Good night sweet prince.
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#91 codezer0
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[QUOTE="Star650"]I own the 60 GB so I'm doing fine:) Maybe in the next gen they will add them again.

I wouldn't count on it, given that Sony seems to be made of people now that have failed Business 101 in school.
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#92 GranReyUno
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Though I have a 60gb, I only use it to play PS3 games.
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#93 null_is_zero
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i do not care, because i got a 60gb :) and i'm enjoying my ps2 games.Krigon

Same here. I am currently enjoying Resident Evil 4 on my PS3. Frickin' awesome game by the way.