Some Bad news and possible good news about fallout 3

First the bad - I was stoked to hear the makers of Oblivion were making a FPS RPG but after playing it at PAX I am a little annoyed with how they did it. Every enemy has a life bar and in order to kill that enemy he has to take X amount of hits to die. As I played the demo, I snuck up behind a guy with a automatic gun and dropped 5 bullets right into his skull and the guy was still standing. I asked the rep if this was a glitch that would be fixed and he stated that you must deplete the life bar and that many characters will not die from 1-2 hits to the head. If a game is a shooter/rpg I would hope they would keep basic elements true to FPS, you can still have tons of cool RPG elements without losing the fun elements of a FPS. ALso the VATS system was kinda cool but also felt like it made the game way to easy and the deaths were not that exciting.

The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........

I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........

LORDDICE1

Fallout 3 has not been confirmed to support trophies...

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]

I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........

LookOutSnake

Fallout 3 has not been confirmed to support trophies...

It's not really an fps, they're staying true to the original Fallouts, play them.moshakirby18

If its an FPS/rpg i would like to see the two elements fused together better. Star Wars is an action adventure it would be really boring if every guy died with one quickblow of a light saber. With fallout its not like every guy you would hit imediately with a headshot either but if you do they should die with 1-2 hits.

The life bar thing doesn't really bother me that much. Its just like in the force unleashed how you cant kill an enemy with a slice of the lightsaber. Either way Im looking foword to this gamemoneymoneyguy

"Your BOOM! HEADSHOT! skill has increased."

If its an FPS/rpg i would like to see the two elements fused together better. Star Wars is an action adventure it would be really boring if every guy died with one quickblow of a light saber. With fallout its not like every guy you would hit imediately with a headshot either but if you do they should die with 1-2 hits.

[QUOTE="moneymoneyguy"]The life bar thing doesn't really bother me that much. Its just like in the force unleashed how you cant kill an enemy with a slice of the lightsaber. Either way Im looking foword to this gameLORDDICE1

It's not a FPS/RPG, it's a RPG that has projectile weapons.BenderUnit22

The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........LORDDICE1

where do you get this coming out on the 360 first bs? they are scheduled for release on the same day.

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........thanos723

where do you get this coming out on the 360 first bs? they are scheduled for release on the same day.

It's not a FPS/RPG, it's a RPG that has projectile weapons.BenderUnit22

Right.

The last Fallout came out in, what, 1998? I want a new Fallout, not a new FPS, I get enough of those. I'm happy with headshots just doing more damage like they used to. Though, I don't remember regular enemies surviving five headshots in the last two Fallouts.

thats ok to some people but I can tell you I don't like it and people at the show thought the same thing. The one problem with gamers is they never want something new. I don't want the exact same fallout as before, I want a new experience but with the same charm that the old games had. [QUOTE="moshakirby18"]It's not really an fps, they're staying true to the original Fallouts, play them.LORDDICE1

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........thanos723

where do you get this coming out on the 360 first bs? they are scheduled for release on the same day.

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]thats ok to some people but I can tell you I don't like it and people at the show thought the same thing. The one problem with gamers is they never want something new. I don't want the exact same fallout as before, I want a new experience but with the same charm that the old games had. [QUOTE="moshakirby18"]It's not really an fps, they're staying true to the original Fallouts, play them.RoganSarine

UM learn to comprehend what you read EXCLUSIVE CONTENT does not mean game, as of right now PC/360 have exclusive content in that will come later. Yes the game will ship at the same time though. [QUOTE="thanos723"]

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........LORDDICE1

where do you get this coming out on the 360 first bs? they are scheduled for release on the same day.

if you took the time to read my next post you would have noticed i already called my self an idiot for not reading the thing probably. so calm down

Guys, it's a game. If the developers don't to steer away from the 'headshot = insta-kill' ideology because it doesn't quite suit their game then it's their prerogative.

The VATS system will probably bypass this, allowing you to turn combat somewhat 'turn-based' and effectively stop time seems like a fairly good way to overcome this issue. The main problem with VATS is that, from what Todd Howard (if thats his name, I forget) in an interview, when you are using VATS enemies can still damage you. So that may be an issue.

For those who are going to complain about a game heres a simply solution: Don't play.

I can almost gaurantee you that QQing about it on these forums will NOT make a difference. Especially to a game thats being released in a matter of months.

That is all :)

First the bad - I was stoked to hear the makers of Oblivion were making a FPS RPG but after playing it at PAX I am a little annoyed with how they did it. Every enemy has a life bar and in order to kill that enemy he has to take X amount of hits to die. As I played the demo, I snuck up behind a guy with a automatic gun and dropped 5 bullets right into his skull and the guy was still standing. I asked the rep if this was a glitch that would be fixed and he stated that you must deplete the life bar and that many characters will not die from 1-2 hits to the head. If a game is a shooter/rpg I would hope they would keep basic elements true to FPS, you can still have tons of cool RPG elements without losing the fun elements of a FPS. ALso the VATS system was kinda cool but also felt like it made the game way to easy and the deaths were not that exciting.

The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........

LORDDICE1

jojo the game is borderland and it has 5000 gunsSingpow

[QUOTE="Singpow"]jojo the game is borderland and it has 5000 gunsjojothekid

i think it actually has 500,000 weapon variations.

back on topic, i think the suspense of disbelief is fine. like someone said earlier we have too many FPS so something different is welcomed. as far as trophies go they have not confirmed them which means to me that they arent included. i am betting the exclusive content and achievements will make this game sell way better on 360 over ps3. too bad really.

If it doesn't have trophies then I will be skipping. There is no reason why they shouldn't be included. Trophies add replayabilty and being that this is a single-player only, it is gonna need them for me to feel I got my money's worth.Rich1631

Yeah, you're right! Trophies add replay value, so screw this game's open-ended gameplay, extensive character development, and mulitple endings. None of THAT lame crap makes me want to play the game again, only the possibility of acquiring a bunch of virtual trophies to show off to the people on my friendlist gives a game longevity...:roll:

No I just feel if you are going to make the game control as an FPS and use guns that should follow the rules of a human would die with one shot to the head. If they are not human and some mutant or other species fine but humans are still human. If human bosses took more shots sure thats fine with me but not regular guys in the world. [QUOTE="RoganSarine"][QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]thats ok to some people but I can tell you I don't like it and people at the show thought the same thing. The one problem with gamers is they never want something new. I don't want the exact same fallout as before, I want a new experience but with the same charm that the old games had. [QUOTE="moshakirby18"]It's not really an fps, they're staying true to the original Fallouts, play them.LORDDICE1

The enemys in oblivion have a life bar too...

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]It's not a FPS/RPG, it's a RPG that has projectile weapons.jojothekid

i remember i had a crap game called abomonation...i think that's it, it had a ton of guns so it kept me entertained...

As long as headshots do more damage than other parts of the body I don't really care. I'm actually glad to hear that it hasn't completely turned into a shooter and retains some RPG elements.

I can't wait for this game...October is too far away.

Wait hold on. Isn't these so called "guys" in this game nothing more than mutants and creatures? Right? So maybe a single headshot might not be enugh to take them down.email2003

[QUOTE="email2003"]Wait hold on. Isn't these so called "guys" in this game nothing more than mutants and creatures? Right? So maybe a single headshot might not be enugh to take them down.jojothekid

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]No I just feel if you are going to make the game control as an FPS and use guns that should follow the rules of a human would die with one shot to the head. If they are not human and some mutant or other species fine but humans are still human. If human bosses took more shots sure thats fine with me but not regular guys in the world. [QUOTE="RoganSarine"][QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]thats ok to some people but I can tell you I don't like it and people at the show thought the same thing. The one problem with gamers is they never want something new. I don't want the exact same fallout as before, I want a new experience but with the same charm that the old games had. [QUOTE="moshakirby18"]It's not really an fps, they're staying true to the original Fallouts, play them.moshakirby18

[QUOTE="LORDDICE1"]

First the bad - I was stoked to hear the makers of Oblivion were making a FPS RPG but after playing it at PAX I am a little annoyed with how they did it. Every enemy has a life bar and in order to kill that enemy he has to take X amount of hits to die. As I played the demo, I snuck up behind a guy with a automatic gun and dropped 5 bullets right into his skull and the guy was still standing. I asked the rep if this was a glitch that would be fixed and he stated that you must deplete the life bar and that many characters will not die from 1-2 hits to the head. If a game is a shooter/rpg I would hope they would keep basic elements true to FPS, you can still have tons of cool RPG elements without losing the fun elements of a FPS. ALso the VATS system was kinda cool but also felt like it made the game way to easy and the deaths were not that exciting.

The possible good news - when I asked if the exclusive content will be only for 360/PC or a timed exclusive they could not confirm or deny. So for those of you getting the PS3 version maybe it will come eventually. I wanted it for PS3 cause I like the trophy system better then achievements but then I do want the exclusive content.........

SceaduHyrde

That's only because they had the perk "Bloody Mess" on. It makes whoever you kill die in a bloody mess no matter how you go about killing them.

No there are humans that you fight as well and that is what I think is stupid. [QUOTE="jojothekid"][QUOTE="email2003"]Wait hold on. Isn't these so called "guys" in this game nothing more than mutants and creatures? Right? So maybe a single headshot might not be enugh to take them down.LORDDICE1

3rd person would still be a shooter, a headshot should be a headshot. Keeping that to be true does not take away RPG elements, keep in mind this is a hybrid of the two after all.LORDDICE1

Did you play Oblivion? If you did, did you ever think 'wow, I just hit that guy on the head with a mace, why didn't he die?' It's not a FPS, it's an RPG with stats, leveling and dice rolls.

I was looking forward to this game till i played oblivion (worsed excuse for a rpg this gen imho).
- This review accuratly reflects why i have bad feelings and worries for bethesda working on fallout 3

If it doesn't have trophies then I will be skipping. There is no reason why they shouldn't be included. Trophies add replayabilty and being that this is a single-player only, it is gonna need them for me to feel I got my money's worth.Rich1631