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#1 sodacanzz
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i ordered dragon age for the PS3, since i heard it was superior to the 360 version but there's one thing that really sucks... i hear the level cap is only 20? that's what i hated about KOTOR. (loved the game though.) i hate low level caps. i loved how bioware made a level 60 cap for mass effect, so why would they downgrade for dragon age???
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#2 Ultrabeatdown55
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I never understood that saying...

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#3 Denji
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To be honest, why have level caps for any game at all? Especially for an open world RPG type of game.

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#4 thunderf00t
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Dragon Age has a level cap? I didn't know that. I think my desire to keep playing just died. :(
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#5 raven_squad
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I never understood that saying...

Ultrabeatdown55
Son, I am dis.... wait. Anyways, i imagine future DLC will expand the level cap, as Fallout 3's did. It's a ploy for more money, in reality.
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#6 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

I never understood that saying...

raven_squad
Son, I am dis.... wait. Anyways, i imagine future DLC will expand the level cap, as Fallout 3's did. It's a ploy for more money, in reality.

:lol: Would anybody care to explain?
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#7 thunderf00t
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

I never understood that saying...

raven_squad
Son, I am dis.... wait. Anyways, i imagine future DLC will expand the level cap, as Fallout 3's did. It's a ploy for more money, in reality.

Oh, well I never played Fallout 3. That's pretty underhanded. Hopefully they sneak one in with the return to Ostagar DLC.
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#8 thunderf00t
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

I never understood that saying...

Ultrabeatdown55

Son, I am dis.... wait. Anyways, i imagine future DLC will expand the level cap, as Fallout 3's did. It's a ploy for more money, in reality.

:lol: Would anybody care to explain?

Just an internet meme based on a picture of a rather square headed man. Had to edit out the link to an explanation due to some graphic pics I hadn't realized were there, don't want to send little ones there and get modded for it. Just google it if you want to see the original pic. I was shocked how many results I got, this is bigger than Rick Roll.

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#9 Denji
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

I never understood that saying...

thunderf00t

Son, I am dis.... wait. Anyways, i imagine future DLC will expand the level cap, as Fallout 3's did. It's a ploy for more money, in reality.

Oh, well I never played Fallout 3. That's pretty underhanded. Hopefully they sneak one in with the return to Ostagar DLC.

I couldn't agree more. It really isn't necessary. Even reaching the 30 cap, the meter shows (___|___|____31). The 20 cap limit showed 21 all the same. More gauging to come?

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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Son, I am dis.... wait. Anyways, i imagine future DLC will expand the level cap, as Fallout 3's did. It's a ploy for more money, in reality. thunderf00t

:lol: Would anybody care to explain?

Just an internet meme based on a picture of a rather square headed man. Had to edit out the link to an explanation due to some graphic pics I hadn't realized were there, don't want to send little ones there and get modded for it. Just google it if you want to see the original pic. I was shocked how many results I got, this is bigger than Rick Roll.

Yeah I have seen the picture before, I just thought it had some kind of significant origin other than that picture :lol:
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#11 raven_squad
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[QUOTE="thunderf00t"]

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]:lol: Would anybody care to explain?Ultrabeatdown55

Just an internet meme based on a picture of a rather square headed man. Had to edit out the link to an explanation due to some graphic pics I hadn't realized were there, don't want to send little ones there and get modded for it. Just google it if you want to see the original pic. I was shocked how many results I got, this is bigger than Rick Roll.

Yeah I have seen the picture before, I just thought it had some kind of significant origin other than that picture :lol:

I'm sure it originated in the "site that shall not be named". ;)
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#12 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="thunderf00t"]

Just an internet meme based on a picture of a rather square headed man. Had to edit out the link to an explanation due to some graphic pics I hadn't realized were there, don't want to send little ones there and get modded for it. Just google it if you want to see the original pic. I was shocked how many results I got, this is bigger than Rick Roll.

raven_squad

Yeah I have seen the picture before, I just thought it had some kind of significant origin other than that picture :lol:

I'm sure it originated in the "site that shall not be named". ;)

Ah, the cesspool of idiots is what I like to call that place :lol:

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#13 Kaeladar
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first the level cap is 25, not 20. the level achievement is misleading because you only need level 20 for it. it takes a while to hit level 25, you need to do pretty much everything. on my second playthrough i skipped a lot of side quests and i didnt even hit level 20 at the end of the game. also enemies dont respawn so by the time you are level 25, you will have cleared a good bunch of the game if not the whole game and level cap will probably be extended if enough DLC content is added.
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#14 kaparsapar
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To be honest, why have level caps for any game at all? Especially for an open world RPG type of game.

Denji

most likely has to do with DLC and forcing gamers to buy dlcs to uncap it.

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#15 hot_shot_9
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What?! It has level cap of 20! Thats KRAP!

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#16 Scianix-Black
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What's the point of level caps anyway?

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#17 yokofox33
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What's the point of level caps anyway?

Scianix-Black

Probably so people complain about it and then companies "graciously" provide the masses with expensive DLC to raise your level cap. I'd put my money on that.

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#18 CyberAltair5
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Level caps are actually good. The force you to make your level with a strategy in mind and not get every ability there is. It also more realistic.

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#19 raven_squad
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Level caps are actually good. The force you to make your level with a strategy in mind and not get every ability there is. It also more realistic.

CyberAltair5
More...realistic? :|
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#20 LP4EVA2005
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20 is the max lvl u can go up to, for a game like this??

what kind of s*** is that?!

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#21 dakan45
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To be honest, why have level caps for any game at all? Especially for an open world RPG type of game.

Denji
Same here, whats the point with level caps? Its like the damn devs dont know that if i spent some time in their open world...sooner or later i will reach level 20. So whats the point to cap it?
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#22 raven_squad
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20 is the max lvl u can go up to, for a game like this??

what kind of s*** is that?!

LP4EVA2005
In all honesty, it doesn't effect your play through of Dragon Age Origins, because the enemies do not respawn. Since you can't grind and level up, it doesn't really matter what your level cap is. You don't reach it until the very end of the game anyways. In Fallout 3 though, it's really bad.
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#23 1076751
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This is a stupid reason to dislike about a RPG. The level cap means nothing at all.

I logged around 50 hours on the PC for my first play through and by end game I am level 17 and I had no problem at all with the final battle. it's all about the skills, tactics and gears.

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#24 PrincePwnStar
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It limits how many points you can put into your tree making your skill build more strategic. Plus you don't have re spawns in the game anyways so its not like you can keep leveling and go back and farm monsters or anything.

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#25 JustWiicredible
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That sucks. I will not be buying that until somekind of DLC comes out to raise it. I love grinding in Demon's souls.
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#26 raven_squad
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That sucks. I will not be buying that until somekind of DLC comes out to raise it. I love grinding in Demon's souls. JustWiicredible
Grinding does not exist in Dragon Age, like a previously mentioned. Once you kill enemies, they are gone for good.
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#27 JustWiicredible
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[QUOTE="JustWiicredible"]That sucks. I will not be buying that until somekind of DLC comes out to raise it. I love grinding in Demon's souls. raven_squad
Grinding does not exist in Dragon Age, like a previously mentioned. Once you kill enemies, they are gone for good.

No sale for me then.
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#28 raven_squad
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="JustWiicredible"]That sucks. I will not be buying that until somekind of DLC comes out to raise it. I love grinding in Demon's souls. JustWiicredible
Grinding does not exist in Dragon Age, like a previously mentioned. Once you kill enemies, they are gone for good.

No sale for me then.

I don't blame you. It is a bit frustrating. But the story and emotional involvement is just soo good...
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#29 Silent-Hal
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Enemies never respawn? I guess it's not so bad then. In fact, this'll probably be the first RPG I play where that never happens.
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#30 Sir_Demii
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Wow, I didn't know about the non-respawning enemies. Ah well, makes DA a bit more unique.A level 20 cap does seem a bit low, but according to what I've seen, you won't even need to go there to be strong enough to complete the game. And in the end, that's what matters. Who cares 'bout high levels when there's nothing to do with 'em?

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#31 KapG
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how many of you have no clue how to read?

A poster on the first page already told you all that the level cap is ACTUALLY level 25 and to get to that level you have to essentially do ALL the sidequests to go along with the main quest.

For all you grinding complainers...I think some of you "grind" so you can fight bosses far above the level at which most people fight them making the bosses easier.

Farming would be a completely different story.

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#32 Meowmixxvi
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="JustWiicredible"]That sucks. I will not be buying that until somekind of DLC comes out to raise it. I love grinding in Demon's souls. JustWiicredible
Grinding does not exist in Dragon Age, like a previously mentioned. Once you kill enemies, they are gone for good.

No sale for me then.

its a pretty good game. the story is fantastic and gameplay is MOi! the level cap is there to limit the amount of skills you can use.
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#33 Meowmixxvi
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Enemies never respawn? I guess it's not so bad then. In fact, this'll probably be the first RPG I play where that never happens. Silent-Hal
only in certain area's enemies re spawn. this game is pretty much straight forward. i dont see a need for grinding, the game requires you to strategize here and there... which make the gameplay pretty awesome. alot of flexibility, and options to choose from. i never saw having a level cap as a big deal, you have different paths as of how you want your character to be.
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#34 raven_squad
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how many of you have no clue how to read?

A poster on the first page already told you all that the level cap is ACTUALLY level 25 and to get to that level you have to essentially do ALL the sidequests to go along with the main quest.

For all you grinding complainers...I think some of you "grind" so you can fight bosses far above the level at which most people fight them making the bosses easier.

Farming would be a completely different story.

KapG
Why are you being so defensive? :? For one thing, the level cap being 20, or 25, makes absolutely not difference in the scheme of things, for this discussion. And for another, grinding in an RPG is alot of fun if you enjoy the gameplay. I love firing up Demon's Souls just to traverse levels and fight the challenging opponents. Could do it endlessly really. Something that is entirely absent from Dragon Age. If I could have continued playing, going back through levels, collecting more gear and earning more abilities, Dragon Age would be alot easier to recommend.
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#35 PrincePwnStar
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[QUOTE="KapG"]

how many of you have no clue how to read?

A poster on the first page already told you all that the level cap is ACTUALLY level 25 and to get to that level you have to essentially do ALL the sidequests to go along with the main quest.

For all you grinding complainers...I think some of you "grind" so you can fight bosses far above the level at which most people fight them making the bosses easier.

Farming would be a completely different story.

raven_squad

Why are you being so defensive? :? For one thing, the level cap being 20, or 25, makes absolutely not difference in the scheme of things, for this discussion. And for another, grinding in an RPG is alot of fun if you enjoy the gameplay. I love firing up Demon's Souls just to traverse levels and fight the challenging opponents. Could do it endlessly really. Something that is entirely absent from Dragon Age. If I could have continued playing, going back through levels, collecting more gear and earning more abilities, Dragon Age would be alot easier to recommend.

I don't know many BioWare games that you really can or need to grind on. Their games are more about story and that feeling of accomplishments. In a way the limited level cap will give you replay ability. Say you put talents into your character that was more Champion like and you want to make a two handed damager and chose different dialog options next time you go through and play it with out investing a big amount of time in it. The game still seems big, I played pretty much about 25 hours and it says I only explored 58% of the world.

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#36 Dante_May_Die
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[QUOTE="CyberAltair5"]

Level caps are actually good. The force you to make your level with a strategy in mind and not get every ability there is. It also more realistic.

raven_squad
More...realistic? :|

didn't you hear the news?humans have levels too! im a level 17 Human Teen my father is a 78 leveled drunk dweller ! what about you!?!? :P
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#37 PetJel
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What?! It has level cap of 20! Thats KRAP!

hot_shot_9

20 is the max lvl u can go up to, for a game like this??

what kind of s*** is that?!

LP4EVA2005
Read the thread please. -_- It's 25 and you basically have to clear the entire game.
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#38 9mmSpliff
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[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"][QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="CyberAltair5"]

Level caps are actually good. The force you to make your level with a strategy in mind and not get every ability there is. It also more realistic.

More...realistic? :|

didn't you hear the news?humans have levels too! im a level 17 Human Teen my father is a 78 leveled drunk dweller ! what about you!?!? :P

Im a lvl 27 Bong Ripper :o
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#39 CyberAltair5
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[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] More...realistic? :|9mmSpliff
didn't you hear the news?humans have levels too! im a level 17 Human Teen my father is a 78 leveled drunk dweller ! what about you!?!? :P

Im a lvl 27 Bong Ripper :o

I'm a LVL 99 Pimp. I meant the skills you learn from leveling up. You can't learn everything there is and level caps ensure it.
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#40 Megaman5364
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Thats why you should try Disgaea 3, level cap of 9999