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#1 samourai_v87
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We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
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#2 shabab12
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we lost no games and we gained a few games. I dont see your point.
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#3 kenshinhimura10
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When you have a lot of things, you have more to lose. Thats it. WE have lost, and won. This generation marks the start of multiplatforms, unless next gen has different offers, but not only in name, but also in Hardware.
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#4 samourai_v87
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we lost no games and we gained a few games. I dont see your point.shabab12

We didn't lose games, we lost exclusives when Microsoft is keeping theirs and not sharing them with us. You saying that Bioshock has the same value and respect as Final Fantasy? When we talk PLAYSTATION, people mention Metal Gear and Final Fantasy. When they mention the Xbox, people talk about Halo and now Gears. We need to be treated equally. Sony gave us nothing so far. Really disappointed in them.

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uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.
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uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.shadowkiller11

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal.We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

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[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.samourai_v87

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal.We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

I totally agree with you man

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#8 shadowkiller11
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well its contracts and deals Halo well not anymore and gears are first party games microsoft payed for them to be exclusive sony did not buy final fantasy or MGS though MGS4 will be exclusive no matter what. but bungie could make halo 4 on ps3 because its not breaking rules. bungie contract ended with microsoft a while ago i don't know if they renewed thjough
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well its contracts and deals Halo well not anymore and gears are first party games microsoft payed for them to be exclusive sony did not buy final fantasy or MGS though MGS4 will be exclusive no matter what. but bungie could make halo 4 on ps3 because its not breaking rules. bungie contract ended with microsoft a while ago i don't know if they renewed thjoughshadowkiller11

MS own Halo and Gears their 1st party titles now, never going to PS3, Metal Gear Solid 4 is nothing to do with Sony they might pay for exclusive rights but that ever lasts look at Bioshock. If Konami want MGS 4 on 360 it will happen, I'd love to see Jack Tretton face when it gets announce, so much for MGS 4 only possible on PS3

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#10 samourai_v87
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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.peixotopeticov

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal.We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

I totally agree with you man

Thank you.

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The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

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#12 George__1992
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what i think, and hear me out,my opinion, is every company wants to make money so as soon as it sees a money oppurtunity it will immediately jump ship...
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#13 George__1992
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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.peixotopeticov

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal. We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

I totally agree with you man

me too, but idk i think gears is kinda boring...

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The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

Star650

I know Metal Gear introduced stealth in the 80s but I meant MGS brought it to the Playstation. If the next MGS will be on the 360 too I'd rather not have another Metal Gear until Microsoft learns to share their exclusives! If MGS5 goes to the 360 then there is no point for me to keep my PS3 because I bought it mainly for MGS4 and the future of Metal Gear. I have my own reasons.

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#15 samourai_v87
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[QUOTE="peixotopeticov"][QUOTE="samourai_v87"]

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.George__1992

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal. We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

I totally agree with you man

me too, but idk i think gears is kinda boring...



but still one of theirs. We have yet to try it out when they'll be trying out Final Fantasy XIII.

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[QUOTE="Star650"]

The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

samourai_v87

I know Metal Gear introduced stealth in the 80s but I meant MGS brought it to the Playstation. If the next MGS will be on the 360 too I'd rather not have another Metal Gear until Microsoft learns to share their exclusives! If MGS5 goes to the 360 then there is no point for me to keep my PS3 because I bought it mainly for MGS4 and the future of Metal Gear. I have my own reasons.

If you want the MGS series to stay exclusive then Sony needs to do just like MS and that is publish the game with the 3rd party developer that is how MS kept Gear of War, Halo to their selves because they own the right to it.

As for how they took the FF series also that is not new Sony took the series from Nintendo, but this one is different where the game just went Muti not exclusive.

And buying a console for one game is not worth spending that money for it no matter how great the game is.

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#17 samourai_v87
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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"][QUOTE="Star650"]

The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

Star650

I know Metal Gear introduced stealth in the 80s but I meant MGS brought it to the Playstation. If the next MGS will be on the 360 too I'd rather not have another Metal Gear until Microsoft learns to share their exclusives! If MGS5 goes to the 360 then there is no point for me to keep my PS3 because I bought it mainly for MGS4 and the future of Metal Gear. I have my own reasons.

If you want the MGS series to stay exclusive then Sony needs to do just like MS and that is publish the game with the 3rd party developer that is how MS kept Gear of War, Halo to their selves because they own the right to it.

As for how they took the FF series also that is not new Sony took the series from Nintendo, but this one is different where the game just went Muti not exclusive.

And buying a console for one game is not worth spending that money for it no matter how great the game is.

I'm enjoying other games man but I bought it because MGS4 was on the PS3 side. If MGS4 was a 360 exclusive I would've bought the 360 and enjoyed the rest of the games aswell. I'm sorry but EVERYTHING is going to the 360, why keep my PS3? I didn't buy it to watch blu-ray movies I bought it to play games but since most of them are found on the 360 and 360 exclusives are UNTOUCHABLE why not get the 360 instead? But I still have high hopes in Sony and I am waiting for them to make their move and stretch their muscles a bit.

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#18 shadowkiller11
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its all about first party games and ps3 has more 1st party games compared to 360 and 3rd party most are multiplat wheather it started on 360 or ps3. everything is not going to 360 and that is quite a stupid comment.
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[QUOTE="Star650"][QUOTE="samourai_v87"][QUOTE="Star650"]

The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

samourai_v87

I know Metal Gear introduced stealth in the 80s but I meant MGS brought it to the Playstation. If the next MGS will be on the 360 too I'd rather not have another Metal Gear until Microsoft learns to share their exclusives! If MGS5 goes to the 360 then there is no point for me to keep my PS3 because I bought it mainly for MGS4 and the future of Metal Gear. I have my own reasons.

If you want the MGS series to stay exclusive then Sony needs to do just like MS and that is publish the game with the 3rd party developer that is how MS kept Gear of War, Halo to their selves because they own the right to it.

As for how they took the FF series also that is not new Sony took the series from Nintendo, but this one is different where the game just went Muti not exclusive.

And buying a console for one game is not worth spending that money for it no matter how great the game is.

I'm enjoying other games man but I bought it because MGS4 was on the PS3 side. If MGS4 was a 360 exclusive I would've bought the 360 and enjoyed the rest of the games aswell. I'm sorry but EVERYTHING is going to the 360, why keep my PS3? I didn't buy it to watch blu-ray movies I bought it to play games but since most of them are found on the 360 and 360 exclusives are UNTOUCHABLE why not get the 360 instead? But I still have high hopes in Sony and I am waiting for them to make their move and stretch their muscles a bit.

Everything is shared with the 360 it is not like the games are getting cancelled on the PS3 and going exclusive although I remember Alan Wake being on the PS3 and now it is MS exlusive, but I also remember Heavy Rain when it was announced it was PS3,360 and now is PS3 exclusive.

The only game that got cancelled on the PS3 was Capcom big Japanese seller Monster Hunter which went Wii exclusive but that is only because the developers are looking for a lower cost of development.

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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"][QUOTE="Star650"][QUOTE="samourai_v87"][QUOTE="Star650"]

The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

Star650

I know Metal Gear introduced stealth in the 80s but I meant MGS brought it to the Playstation. If the next MGS will be on the 360 too I'd rather not have another Metal Gear until Microsoft learns to share their exclusives! If MGS5 goes to the 360 then there is no point for me to keep my PS3 because I bought it mainly for MGS4 and the future of Metal Gear. I have my own reasons.

If you want the MGS series to stay exclusive then Sony needs to do just like MS and that is publish the game with the 3rd party developer that is how MS kept Gear of War, Halo to their selves because they own the right to it.

As for how they took the FF series also that is not new Sony took the series from Nintendo, but this one is different where the game just went Muti not exclusive.

And buying a console for one game is not worth spending that money for it no matter how great the game is.

I'm enjoying other games man but I bought it because MGS4 was on the PS3 side. If MGS4 was a 360 exclusive I would've bought the 360 and enjoyed the rest of the games aswell. I'm sorry but EVERYTHING is going to the 360, why keep my PS3? I didn't buy it to watch blu-ray movies I bought it to play games but since most of them are found on the 360 and 360 exclusives are UNTOUCHABLE why not get the 360 instead? But I still have high hopes in Sony and I am waiting for them to make their move and stretch their muscles a bit.

Everything is shared with the 360 it is not like the games are getting cancelled on the PS3 and going exclusive although I remember Alan Wake being on the PS3 and now it is MS exlusive, but I also remember Heavy Rain when it was announced it was PS3,360 and now is PS3 exclusive.

The only game that got cancelled on the PS3 was Capcom big Japanese seller Monster Hunter which went Wii exclusive but that is only because the developers are looking for a lower cost of development.

I also remember Haze when it was announced it was PS3, 360 and PC and now is PS3 exclusive!! :P

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I also remember Haze when it was announced it was PS3, 360 and PC and now is PS3 exclusive!! :P

samourai_v87

:lol: ok then no one should be angry.

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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]

I also remember Haze when it was announced it was PS3, 360 and PC and now is PS3 exclusive!! :P

Star650

:lol: ok then no one should be angry.

Why doesn't Sony give away Haze or Lair instead? I don't understand.

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We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
samourai_v87

didn't the gamecube get an MGS game? I think...? feel free to flame me if im wrong lol.

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#24 choasgod
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Umm exclusives are few and far between this gen.

Remember 360 lost -- Lost Planet, Saints Row 2, Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, etc -- and if capcom make Dead Rising 2, you can add that to the list.

The main reason it seems like SONY is losing so many exclusives is becuase of the sheer number of excluives the PS2 had since it wasn't worth developing for the Xbox or GC late into last gen. In the end exclusives are nice when trying to justify buying a console but its good games we want - and lots of them ... and 10 good games is better than 5 exclusive good games....
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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
rsoxguy12

didn't the gamecube get an MGS game? I think...? feel free to flame me if im wrong lol.

also metal gear solid 2 is on xbox

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[QUOTE="rsoxguy12"]

[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
bebot00

didn't the gamecube get an MGS game? I think...? feel free to flame me if im wrong lol.

also metal gear solid 2 is on xbox

MGS1. PS1, PC

MGS1 remake. GC.

MGS2:Substance. PS2.PC, XBOX.

MGS3: SNAKE EATER/ SUBSISTENCE PS2 exclusive, the reason for this staying exclusive is simple the Xbox version didn't do well so they didn't bother making it muti.

And at the moment MGS4 PS3 exclusive only two from the series are exclusive to the PS family, oh.. and MGS: Portable Ops for PSP.

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[QUOTE="bebot00"][QUOTE="rsoxguy12"]

[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
Star650

didn't the gamecube get an MGS game? I think...? feel free to flame me if im wrong lol.

also metal gear solid 2 is on xbox

MGS1. PS1, PC

MGS1 remake. GC.

MGS2:Substance. PS2.PC, XBOX.

MGS3: SNAKE EATER/ SUBSISTENCE PS2 exclusive, the reason for this staying exclusive is simple the Xbox version didn't do well so they didn't bother making it muti.

And at the moment MGS4 PS3 exclusive only two from the series are exclusive to the PS family, oh.. and MGS: Portable Ops for PSP.



Halo and Gears appeared on PC but they were more successful on Xbox. Metal Gear was always successful on the PLAYSTATION because Metal Gear fanbase is composed of Playstation gamers. It's about the fanbase. The bottom line is: We, PLAYSTATION gamers made MGS what it is today and not Kojima. :P

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#28 Solid_Cipher
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[QUOTE="peixotopeticov"][QUOTE="samourai_v87"]

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.samourai_v87

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal.We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

I totally agree with you man

Thank you.

Me too.

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This is assuming that both consoles exclusive titles are equal in quality...which isnt true. Hell, id give you halo AND gears just for mgs 4 but most people wouldnt think thats a decent trade...
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#30 samourai_v87
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This is assuming that both consoles exclusive titles are equal in quality...which isnt true. Hell, id give you halo AND gears just for mgs 4 but most people wouldnt think thats a decent trade...Buddha_basic

I'd give away everything if they give away everything. But don't give them something big when they in return give back little to nothing. you know what I'm saying? Much like they have the rights to play games we have we should be treated no different.

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[QUOTE="bebot00"][QUOTE="rsoxguy12"]

[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
Star650

didn't the gamecube get an MGS game? I think...? feel free to flame me if im wrong lol.

also metal gear solid 2 is on xbox

MGS1. PS1, PC

MGS1 remake. GC.

MGS2:Substance. PS2.PC, XBOX.

MGS3: SNAKE EATER/ SUBSISTENCE PS2 exclusive, the reason for this staying exclusive is simple the Xbox version didn't do well so they didn't bother making it muti.

And at the moment MGS4 PS3 exclusive only two from the series are exclusive to the PS family, oh.. and MGS: Portable Ops for PSP.

The Opening poster obviously doesn't know his history, both MGS1 and MGS2 got ports later on on other consoles, But obviously most ppl still think of "SONY PLAYSTATION" when Metal Gear Solid is mentioned

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#32 samourai_v87
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[QUOTE="Star650"][QUOTE="bebot00"][QUOTE="rsoxguy12"]

[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
wayanbros

didn't the gamecube get an MGS game? I think...? feel free to flame me if im wrong lol.

also metal gear solid 2 is on xbox

MGS1. PS1, PC

MGS1 remake. GC.

MGS2:Substance. PS2.PC, XBOX.

MGS3: SNAKE EATER/ SUBSISTENCE PS2 exclusive, the reason for this staying exclusive is simple the Xbox version didn't do well so they didn't bother making it muti.

And at the moment MGS4 PS3 exclusive only two from the series are exclusive to the PS family, oh.. and MGS: Portable Ops for PSP.

The Opening poster obviously doesn't know his history, both MGS1 and MGS2 got ports later on on other consoles, But obviously most ppl still think of "SONY PLAYSTATION" when Metal Gear Solid is mentioned

I know the history of Metal Gear better than any of you and I'll put my money on that. Put it in your sig if you want. Ports wasn't my point, I clearly stated that the fanbase of Metal Gear is found and only found in the PLAYSTATION family and will ONLY be successful there. get it?

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Shut up about this crap already...
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#34 shabab12
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Come on man, you still get to play the game. And FYI, gears and halo are pieces of crud and Bioshock was the best game on the system. The ps3 exclusives are also so much better its unbelieveable. I have no clue how people can STILL say the ps3 has no games. You also rubbish the point that gears and halo are first party when that is the main point. Name me a good 3rd party 360 exclusive. I thought so.
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I know the history of Metal Gearbetter than any of you and I'll put my money on that.

samourai_v87

That is quite a statement and an arrogant one, I like AgentH:P better than you Samouria because you can't really say that really when you don't know what the millions of other MGS fans knowledge is.

[spoiler] I really really think you are AgentH [/spoiler]

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The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

Star650

Also MGS:PO for the PSP, but this man speaks the truth... end of topic.

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#37 Symphonycometh
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This topic already bores me, so I'll ring up a completely different rant:

Those who favor multiplatform gaming over exclusives are those who believe in sacraficing quality and no competition. And those people can be just as annoying as casual gamers hating on the hardcore gamers.

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#38 Sepewrath
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You know its funny that you use Metal Gear and Final Fantasy as examples, calling them Playstation when neither franchise would be anything without their start on Nintendo. When they jumped ship to Sony, Nintendo gamers didnt even get a multiplat experience we got nothing. So you have nothing to complain about, at least you still get to play the games. Sony has just started to come into their own with their first party development, they have always mostly relied on 3rd parties. This is the price you pay when you rely on them and are no longer offering 70% of the market share. MS on the other hand relies heavily on 3rd parties as well, but instead of improving 1st party development they buy studios like Rare and Bungie. And they can afford to rely more on 3rd parties because they have a larger western fanbase which many games coming out are aimed at. Sony doesn't have a large enough fanbase to lure in developers anymore, if you want exclusives you will have to settle mostly for their 1st party titles.
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In a few years there will be no such things as third party exclusives except on the PS3 and 360(I say in about 2 or 3 years)

Here are the facts games cost LOTZ to make on the 360 and PS3 now serisouly i mean GTAIV cost over 100 million to make and that destroys the previous record of shenmue. So to make more money developers need to make all there games multiplat. Thats what square enix did and thats what namco bandai did and it makes perfect sense im not a big sony fanboy and says screw them or stuff like that

Soon no more 3rd party exclusives will exist on the PS3 and 360(the wii is a very cheap systems so of course there still gonna have some) It will only be 2nd party and 1st party exclusives remaining

Which i think is awesome it will all depend on which 1st and 2nd party exclusives you like better.

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#40 Xomonuchi
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[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.samourai_v87

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal.We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

u are 100% Right !!!!!!! we need to get halo and gears ! they got tekken 6 man ! and FF ! what's next ! metal gear ! playstation needs to play dirty !!!!!!!!

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#41 eklineage
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sony did lose a bit. No tales or star ocean so far? that's a disgrace. Then again it's the only two games that interest me on the 360. Then again, this entire gen fails on the rpg genre. Alot of sequels are not any better and sometimes worse than the previous games. Ex. DMC4 compared to DMC3.
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#42 Xomonuchi
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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"][QUOTE="Star650"][QUOTE="samourai_v87"][QUOTE="Star650"]

The franchise is owned by Konami corporation not Koijma Production and Metal Gear introduced steath in the 80's so I don't think you can change it the way you want like the MGS series is a PLAYSTATION exclusive, while according to the records only MGS3: SNAKE EATER/SUBSISTENCE is exclusive.

Konami stated that they plan on going muti from now on according to the Representative who said they have no plans to port MGS4 to the 360 so by that the next MGS game will be muti.

And once again I will say it MGS3 is the only MGS game that is exclusive to the PLAYSTATION the others aren't.

Star650

I know Metal Gear introduced stealth in the 80s but I meant MGS brought it to the Playstation. If the next MGS will be on the 360 too I'd rather not have another Metal Gear until Microsoft learns to share their exclusives! If MGS5 goes to the 360 then there is no point for me to keep my PS3 because I bought it mainly for MGS4 and the future of Metal Gear. I have my own reasons.

If you want the MGS series to stay exclusive then Sony needs to do just like MS and that is publish the game with the 3rd party developer that is how MS kept Gear of War, Halo to their selves because they own the right to it.

As for how they took the FF series also that is not new Sony took the series from Nintendo, but this one is different where the game just went Muti not exclusive.

And buying a console for one game is not worth spending that money for it no matter how great the game is.

I'm enjoying other games man but I bought it because MGS4 was on the PS3 side. If MGS4 was a 360 exclusive I would've bought the 360 and enjoyed the rest of the games aswell. I'm sorry but EVERYTHING is going to the 360, why keep my PS3? I didn't buy it to watch blu-ray movies I bought it to play games but since most of them are found on the 360 and 360 exclusives are UNTOUCHABLE why not get the 360 instead? But I still have high hopes in Sony and I am waiting for them to make their move and stretch their muscles a bit.

Everything is shared with the 360 it is not like the games are getting cancelled on the PS3 and going exclusive although I remember Alan Wake being on the PS3 and now it is MS exlusive, but I also remember Heavy Rain when it was announced it was PS3,360 and now is PS3 exclusive.

The only game that got cancelled on the PS3 was Capcom big Japanese seller Monster Hunter which went Wii exclusive but that is only because the developers are looking for a lower cost of development.

But they are being delayed so they can launch both versions together! Like tekken 6 and Final fantasy ! and that is not fair ! and who knows they may make the ps3 title a port !!! and that is the biggest nightmare for ps3 owner ! and the game may be downgraded so that the ps3 and 360 version looks the same !! all I am saying is that Sony needs to stop losing its exclusives ! and started owing Microsoft's !

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#43 Xomonuchi
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Umm exclusives are few and far between this gen.

Remember 360 lost -- Lost Planet, Saints Row 2, Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, etc -- and if capcom make Dead Rising 2, you can add that to the list.

The main reason it seems like SONY is losing so many exclusives is becuase of the sheer number of excluives the PS2 had since it wasn't worth developing for the Xbox or GC late into last gen. In the end exclusives are nice when trying to justify buying a console but its good games we want - and lots of them ... and 10 good games is better than 5 exclusive good games....
choasgod

yeah but games like lost planet sucks on the ps3 !!! the ps3 version of every 360 ( was ) exclusive is minor to the 360 version ! they are making it a port !!!!!!!!!

@#$% this !

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We've lost many many exclusives and got nothing in return. You say why not let the others enjoy great games on other consoles? I agree, but this needs to be applied for everybody not just for the other console gamers. We gained nothing from giving away our exclusives but they gained ALOT. Don't start with the 1st party and 3rd party discussion because that's BS. What did we get in exchange with a game like Final Fantasy?? nothing. The only PERFECT exclusive that remained on the PS3 and that was one of the main contributors in the success of the PLAYSTATION family ever since it was introduced to the gaming world and brought stealth to the gaming industry back in 1998 is "Metal Gear Solid". Bungie is considering developing games for the PS3 but can't bring Halo because "Halo" and "Master Chief" are trademarks that Microsoft owns. I say it's about time that Sony transforms "Metal Gear Solid" from a 3rd party game to one of their first party games and OWN the trademarks of "Metal Gear Solid" and "Solid Snake"(if needed). Either buy Kojima Productions or keep your damn exclusives. You want to give them away, give us something in return! ok?
samourai_v87

Yes completely agreed.I bought my PS3 for MGS and bought my 360 for Halo.These two games are not just games ANYMORE.They are a PART OF CONSOLES.Like a controller or any other hardware/software of console.They should not be ported.We already lost icons like Final Fantasy and Devil may cry.

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#45 Hanabie
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[QUOTE="shabab12"]we lost no games and we gained a few games. I dont see your point.samourai_v87

We didn't lose games, we lost exclusives when Microsoft is keeping theirs and not sharing them with us. You saying that Bioshock has the same value and respect as Final Fantasy? When we talk PLAYSTATION, people mention Metal Gear and Final Fantasy. When they mention the Xbox, people talk about Halo and now Gears. We need to be treated equally. Sony gave us nothing so far. Really disappointed in them.

fyi, we lost star ocean =/
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I'm sorry but EVERYTHING is going to the 360, why keep my PS3? I didn't buy it to watch blu-ray movies I bought it to play games but since most of them are found on the 360 and 360 exclusives are UNTOUCHABLE why not get the 360 instead? But I still have high hopes in Sony and I am waiting for them to make their move and stretch their muscles a bit. samourai_v87

Oh yes, I see your point because unlike "UNTOUCHABLE" MS published franchises it's only a matter of time that Sony published franchises like God of War, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Motorstorm, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, White Knight Chronicles, Wipeout, Jak and Daxter, Socom and others end up on the 360. No no, you are right "EVERYTHING" will be on the 360. Why did I ever buy a PS3?:roll:

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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]I'm sorry but EVERYTHING is going to the 360, why keep my PS3? I didn't buy it to watch blu-ray movies I bought it to play games but since most of them are found on the 360 and 360 exclusives are UNTOUCHABLE why not get the 360 instead? But I still have high hopes in Sony and I am waiting for them to make their move and stretch their muscles a bit. Elitheos

Oh yes, I see your point because unlike "untouchable" MS published franchised it's only a matter of time that Sony published franchises like God of War, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Motorstorm, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, White Knight Chronicles, Wipeout, Jak and Daxter, Socom and others end up on the 360. No no, you are right. Why did I ever buy a PS3?:roll:

You gotta see the bright side of his post... if he gets a 360, we would get rid of him. So yeah, TC go ahead and get one, please.

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#48 samourai_v87
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[QUOTE="samourai_v87"]

I know the history of Metal Gearbetter than any of you and I'll put my money on that.

Star650

I really really think you are AgentH

hmm maybe. Me and him share the same exact knowledge. I know him personally and we keep discussing the storyline together. He's like my best friend and my best Metal Gear buddy. We go to university together and we met thanks to his codec ringtone on his phone and alert beep as his message tone.

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#49 vibrantdesign
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Regardless I don't think it would necessarily be a great idea for Sony to buy rights for Metal Gear, for the sole fact that Hideo Kojima said MGS4 would be his last game for the franchise, but I have been hearing rumors there is a MGS5 script being written and considering of being involved if he likes the ideas the staff is coming up with. To be quite honest, I hope Konami retires the franchise. Let Snake rest in peace, and let the characters and the vast community and locations Kojima invisioned alone.

I don't want to see another Metal Gear game to be honest. I am satisified with MGS4.

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[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]uhm bioshock in my opinon one of my fave 360 games last year thats on ps3, and eternal sonata also going to ps3. basically 90% of 3rd party games will go or be multiplat wheather its on 360 or ps3.samourai_v87

Exactly what I'm talking about. Why let games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy go to their consoles when we don't get their Halos and Gears? Don't tell me they're first parties because I told you that IMO Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are PLAYSTATION and Halo and Gears are Xbox! That equation should be equal.We lost the exclusivity of one of them. We got nothing in return from either Halo or Gears. Sony needs to buy the exclusivity and play dirty like Microsoft is doing.

Heres the thing about what you just said, Halo and Gears were published by Microsoft Game Studios and developed by a third party. Microsoft paid for those games. Thats why they won't come to PS3. Final Fantasy and MGS respectively are Square and Konami by themselves, Sony didn't do jack for them so it does not matter if they go to another platform. Your asking Microsoft to give up games they funded while asking Sony to tell other companies they can't give another console games that Sony didn't do anything for. Your crossing the line from logical argument about exclusives too ridiculous fanboy ranting with the above qoute.