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#1 ChrnoTrigger
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Seriously, they were insulted today by the MS conference. MS stole all their exclusives the past few years and now FFXIII, the title which PS3 owners were most looking forward to. And then they challenged them saying they are confident that the 360 will outsell the PS3 this generation.

Let's see how they(Sony) will stick to their end of the bargain. Anybody remember them saying that they're willing to pay money to buy exclusives as well games being their top priority right now?

I feel like my PS3 has less meaning now that FFXIII is coming to 360 as well, even though I think FFVersus13 looks cooler.

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Seriously, they were insulted today by the MS conference. MS stole all their exclusives the past few years and now FFXIII, the title which PS3 owners were most looking forward to.

Let's see how they will stick to their end of the bargain. Anybody remember them saying that they're willing to pay money to buy exclusives as well games being their top priority right now?

I feel like my PS3 has less meaning now that FFXIII is coming to 360 as well, even though I think FFVersus13 looks cooler.

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whos to say versus is exclusive?
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#3 rogerjak
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Meh for FF13, but it sells system, so we should be worried.

Also, this will be locked.

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#4 ChrnoTrigger
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Seriously, they were insulted today by the MS conference. MS stole all their exclusives the past few years and now FFXIII, the title which PS3 owners were most looking forward to.

Let's see how they will stick to their end of the bargain. Anybody remember them saying that they're willing to pay money to buy exclusives as well games being their top priority right now?

I feel like my PS3 has less meaning now that FFXIII is coming to 360 as well, even though I think FFVersus13 looks cooler.

jpridgen0

whos to say versus is exclusive?

SE confirmed that Versus is exclusive to the PS3.

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It's not like they have to hit a homerun. FFXIII will still sell more on the PS3 worldwide plus the rest on M$ presser was kinda weak to me. Although I didn't see that coming at all.
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#6 Jack_Force
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yeah but they said the same about XIII so who knows?
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#7 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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I thought everyone was most looking forward to MGS4 which is still exclusive is it not?
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[QUOTE="jpridgen0"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Seriously, they were insulted today by the MS conference. MS stole all their exclusives the past few years and now FFXIII, the title which PS3 owners were most looking forward to.

Let's see how they will stick to their end of the bargain. Anybody remember them saying that they're willing to pay money to buy exclusives as well games being their top priority right now?

I feel like my PS3 has less meaning now that FFXIII is coming to 360 as well, even though I think FFVersus13 looks cooler.

ChrnoTrigger

whos to say versus is exclusive?

SE confirmed that Versus is exclusive to the PS3.

they also confirmed that 13 was exclusive and look what happened. versus is way behind in development to 13. whos to say that next year at E3 we wont get another bomb dropped on us.
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#9 ChrnoTrigger
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yeah but they said the same about XIII so who knows?Jack_Force

They never did it officially as far as I know, they hinted it but never talked too much about it. Slim chance that versus will lose its exclusivity.

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Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, cool avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements. And don't forget Duffy.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

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I was just as shocked as much the next guy when I heard about but if you think about it, this is going to barely benefit microsoft. the reason I say that is because FFXIII is exclusive for Japan which is who microsoft was trying to capture, the Japanese crowd, so that was just epic failure on that part, plus i heard the NA/EU version will be timed exclusive for PS3 and people will buy that one for sure which leaves microsoft with the leftovers.
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#12 jpridgen0
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[QUOTE="Jack_Force"]yeah but they said the same about XIII so who knows?ChrnoTrigger

They never did it officially as far as I know, they hinted it but never talked too much about it. Slim chance it'll lose its exclusivity.

remember that Cloud DVD which had extended trailers of 13 and vs13? at the end of both of them it says "EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PS3"
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Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, Cool Avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

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lemme get this straight. Sony is getting crushed because Microsoft is jacking stuff from Nintendo?!

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#14 ChrnoTrigger
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Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, cool avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements. And don't forget Duffy.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

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Rest of what MS announced was just casual crap, IMO. I was expecting to see more exclusives but they didn't show much at all. FFXIII was what saved them, and stomped sony as of now.

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#15 mosset5
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Yall kill me! Why does Sony have to pull a miracle because one game is not exclusive?? I swear yall are some of the most flaky fans I have ever seen. Get over it! You do know that we are playing video GAMES correct? Geesh!!
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I was just as shocked as much the next guy when I heard about but if you think about it, this is going to barely benefit microsoft. the reason I say that is because FFXIII is exclusive for Japan which is who microsoft was trying to capture, the Japanese crowd, so that was just epic failure on that part, plus i heard the NA/EU version will be timed exclusive for PS3 and people will buy that one for sure which leaves microsoft with the leftovers.BC20FLY
lol. read the gamespot news update on the 360 page. it says that SE did not announce any kind of timed exclusive agreement with anyone.
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#17 ChrnoTrigger
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

[QUOTE="Jack_Force"]yeah but they said the same about XIII so who knows?jpridgen0

They never did it officially as far as I know, they hinted it but never talked too much about it. Slim chance it'll lose its exclusivity.

remember that Cloud DVD which had extended trailers of 13 and vs13? at the end of both of them it says "EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PS3"

Look, if Versus wasn't exclusive it would've been announced in the conference. As long as it's not announced, it's PS3 exclusive.

And during the kotaku blog, someone asked if Versus would be multiplat, SE give a big fat No.

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#18 moshakirby18
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Agreed, exclusives gone, but the worst part?

All of sony's innovative ideas Microsoft have stolen and threw more money at (even if it is just for a microphone...).

The only thing Microsoft announced that was their own was the gameshow thing, which does sound fairly cool.
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#19 PS3videos
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Nintendo? The Wii is awesome and it's tons of fun, but it's not close to either the PS3 or the XBox in turns of the whole deal. I mean, we have to put aside fandom and look at the facts. I love the PS3. I have a website for it that costs me tons of money.

But it has major catching up to do and that gap grew significantly this morning. I'll take PS3 exclusives over XBOX 360 exclusives all day. But this is about the bigger picture that Sony is having problems keeping up with. It's sad but true.

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#20 lukasz_erecinsk
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All great empires eventually crumble ... are we witnessing Sony's defeat ... I certainly hope not, but simultaneously, I need to admit that it certainly seems so ...
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[QUOTE="PS3videos"]

Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, Cool Avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

whoozwah

lemme get this straight. Sony is getting crushed because Microsoft is jacking stuff from Nintendo?!

I loled because it is true.

This war is getting to much of a "Who pleases the casuals more" , and frankly it pisses me off.

Also, Sony as a movie service coming up so meh not worried about that. At least Home doesn't look like a cheap rip off of Mii system.

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[QUOTE="PS3videos"]

Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, Cool Avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

whoozwah

lemme get this straight. Sony is getting crushed because Microsoft is jacking stuff from Nintendo?!

correct....and also they want to win the console wars throwing money at every dev, that they have infront of them

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#23 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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and I'm saying that everything that was shown off this morning was lifted from someone else and modified.
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#24 PS3videos
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and I'm saying that everything that was shown off this morning was lifted from someone else and modified.whoozwah

So what? It's still better than what the PS3 has in terms of entertainment value. Who cares if it was lifted and changed? Microsoft was founding on piracy. But they now rule the computer world and Gates is the richest man on the planet.

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Nintendo? The Wii is awesome and it's tons of fun, but it's not close to either the PS3 or the XBox in turns of the whole deal. I mean, we have to put aside fandom and look at the facts. I love the PS3. I have a website for it that costs me tons of money.

But it has major catching up to do and that gap grew significantly this morning. I'll take PS3 exclusives over XBOX 360 exclusives all day. But this is about the bigger picture that Sony is having problems keeping up with. It's sad but true.

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I see what you did there
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#26 ChrnoTrigger
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[QUOTE="whoozwah"]and I'm saying that everything that was shown off this morning was lifted from someone else and modified.PS3videos

So what? It's still better than what the PS3 has in terms of entertainment value. Who cares if it was lifted and changed? Microsoft was founding on piracy. But they now rule the computer world and Gates is the richest man on the planet.

It's still better? Sony didn't even have it's press conference yet. how can you say that? :|

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[QUOTE="PS3videos"]

Nintendo? The Wii is awesome and it's tons of fun, but it's not close to either the PS3 or the XBox in turns of the whole deal. I mean, we have to put aside fandom and look at the facts. I love the PS3. I have a website for it that costs me tons of money.

But it has major catching up to do and that gap grew significantly this morning. I'll take PS3 exclusives over XBOX 360 exclusives all day. But this is about the bigger picture that Sony is having problems keeping up with. It's sad but true.

AaronHullLfc

I see what you did there

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#28 CameosisJ
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u guys want your cake and don't want anyone else to have any. So they get a game, who cares? I'm still playing my ps3 unlike you bratty little kids
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#29 zaid55
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They can give tekken 6 and GOW3 an 08 release date and announce more exclusive games which will be playable soon..because if they announce some new awesome game foe 2010 it wont seem all that great.
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#30 TXMostWanted
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As much as I could care less about FFXIII (*gasp), the fact that Sony isn't taking priority on retaining their exclusives (ex: sequels to Devil May Cry 3, Soul Caliber III, Grand Theft Auto:SA *short period, FFXII etc) is making me doubt my investment in their console. If 360 actually gets MGS4 and the console isn't plagued by the Red Lights, I know I'll chuck my PS3 despite never owning anything from Microsoft or Nintendo. But I also will be suprised if Sony doesn't have something up their sleeve with their press conference (*pleez FFVII, new Metal Gear or Jak)
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Not necessary a miracle but one heck of a show.
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#32 payaso56
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i dont see what the big problem is. i play ff because i like the game not because of what platform its on. there are plenty of other exclusives to look forward to anyway
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that would be great if sony counters this with a new FF7.
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#34 Ospov
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MS said they're positive they're going to sell more than the PS3 this gen...well isn't that really kind of a no brainer? I'm not bashing Sony, but the 360 sold like 5:1 or 4:1 (can't remember) and even if Sony did do something amazing and ended up selling the PS3 like hotcakes and MS didnt sell another 360, it would still take a long time for the PS3 to actually catch up and this current gen could very well be ending by the time the PS3 caught up to the 360 in sales. Plus, MS has been out a whole year longer than the PS3 and thats not even mentioning the PS3's high launch price. If they were both out for the same time and the PS3's price was what it is now, then there wouldn't be as big of a sales gap.

I understand that the point of E3 is to get people excited about what you have instead of what other people have, but that doesn't mean MS has to be like a little school girl and trash talk Sony. I guess the people that run MS aren't any more mature than the people on XBL...

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"I guess the people that run MS aren't any more mature than the people on XBL..."

Cuz they r one and the same.

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Only one thing can save Sony from finishing last in the console war in north america- FF7 remake
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[QUOTE="jpridgen0"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Seriously, they were insulted today by the MS conference. MS stole all their exclusives the past few years and now FFXIII, the title which PS3 owners were most looking forward to.

Let's see how they will stick to their end of the bargain. Anybody remember them saying that they're willing to pay money to buy exclusives as well games being their top priority right now?

I feel like my PS3 has less meaning now that FFXIII is coming to 360 as well, even though I think FFVersus13 looks cooler.

ChrnoTrigger

whos to say versus is exclusive?

SE confirmed that Versus is exclusive to the PS3.

they sad the exact same thing about FFXIII...i guess they keep it as a ps3 exclusive until next years E3 to announce it being also multiplat:P

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All great empires eventually crumble ... are we witnessing Sony's defeat ... I certainly hope not, but simultaneously, I need to admit that it certainly seems so ... lukasz_erecinsk
The comeback for Sony has already started, don't cry over a overrated game like final fantasy. Sony has something up the sleeve so shut up and stop crying.
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#39 Magusi
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It's not like they have to hit a homerun. FFXIII will still sell more on the PS3 worldwide plus the rest on M$ presser was kinda weak to me. Although I didn't see that coming at all. Kuruption84

Maybe, but what it did (and will do) is stop possible buyers in their tracks. It is very bad news for Sony ... very bad.

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How does everyone know that FF7 would remain exclusive if remade?
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#41 falconzss
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How does everyone know that FF7 would remain exclusive if remade?zaid55

exactly, the only reason they made FFXIII multiplat is because of sony's market share. if they remade FFVII it would probably be the same.

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#42 jpridgen0
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How does everyone know that FF7 would remain exclusive if remade?zaid55
EXACTLY. people keep saying that FF7 would save sony but SE said that FF13 was going mp because they wanted more fans to be able to experience it which basically means SE wants more money. with that said, why on earth do people think a FF7 remake would be exclusive?
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#43 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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I think it the game became multi-platform because if they wanted it at it's full potential it will come out by 2013, so by having it for the 360 they can downgrade it so that they could release it sooner
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#44 jeremiah06
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also something to think about if its multiplat how would it look to have one ps3 disc and 4 xbox disc all i see is one not so impressive final fantasy that fits on one xbox disc that nobady will buy and soon ffxiii japan only
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#45 itisa87
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I thought everyone was most looking forward to MGS4 which is still exclusive is it not?whoozwah

bump!

seriously,isn't mgs4 and little big planet is a miracle.jeez,what are you all.sony didn't need to defend some company who accept microsoft money to be multiplatform.what sony need is a new game series.

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why are you worried enjoy what u got i know i do
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#47 _ChIcKeN_
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For me, Square-Enix is dead... M$ as now become the most disgusting company ever, and Sony follows them in second... why? because they were stupid enough to let FFXIII go to M$..... so? Square is dead, Sony is dead and M$ is dead... i will never buy anything from them again.......
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#48 Jean_rainier
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Well all Sony needs to do is steal some 360 exclusives, information on Tekken 6, GOW3, Naughty Dog Game coming up, and Halo 4 exclusive for ps3:P
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#49 Sphire
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It's funny how one game, ONE game can supposedly bring Sony down. I guess that's testament to the FF series. Truth be told, i got my ps3 for two major games, and of cause everything in between, but majorly, FFXIII and MGS4. Now I'm not so much of a fanboy, if ffxiii is any good as ffx was (for me), then yes, i would love others to play it.

The biggest worry i have is that due to being multiplat, ffxiii won't utilise the ps3's full power, not per se saying that xbox is the weaker console, but simply by looking at previous multiplats, they usually can't compete with ps3 exclusives (not all, like cod4 was good). After playing mgs4, i had high hopes that square-enix could match or better that game, they're a company i know that can pull it off. Now i'm kinda iffy about whether it can stand up to mgs4. But going multiplat, hopefully doesn't deminish the quality.

And while i don't mind ffxiii going to the xbox, their reasoning surely must mean they want to port those 'xbox exclusive' games they're making to the ps3 as well shouldn't it? Like Infinite Undiscovery? I know last remnant is a timed exclusive (hopefully not a long one). And star ocean? well microsoft has some handwork in that game (i think) so i'd understand if it didn't come. Basically it would be bull if they didn't port over games they intended to make exclusive for the xbox too in my opinion.

The 'console wars' just got interesting again.

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#50 itwiz90
Member since 2003 • 3037 Posts
MS only got the opportunity to preset first, this means absolutely nothing. SOSNY now knows what moves they have to make, so their presentation can shine also. SO What MS has FF too, what the big deal, why all the crying over nothing,