Sony has to pull a miracle tommorow.

[QUOTE="zaid55"]How does everyone know that FF7 would remain exclusive if remade?jpridgen0

[QUOTE="zaid55"]How does everyone know that FF7 would remain exclusive if remade?falconzss

exactly, the only reason they made FFXIII multiplat is because of sony's market share. if they remade FFVII it would probably be the same.

Because unlike FFXIII, Sony had a lot more to do with the development of FF7.

Making FF7 multiplatform isnt just as simple as SE saying "we want this on as many as systems as possible". SE doesnt just outright own everything to do with FF7, so if they auctally tried to bring it to another console Sony would do everything in their power to block it.

Why do you think we havent seen FF 3 or 4 remade for PSP? Because nintendo doesnt want to share them.

The biggest worry i have is that due to being multiplat, ffxiii won't utilise the ps3's full power, not per se saying that xbox is the weaker console, but simply by looking at previous multiplats, they usually can't compete with ps3 exclusives (not all, like cod4 was good). After playing mgs4, i had high hopes that square-enix could match or better that game, they're a company i know that can pull it off. Now i'm kinda iffy about whether it can stand up to mgs4. But going multiplat, hopefully doesn't deminish the quality.

Sphire

Thats what i'm worried about too.

[QUOTE="BC20FLY"]I was just as shocked as much the next guy when I heard about but if you think about it, this is going to barely benefit microsoft. the reason I say that is because FFXIII is exclusive for Japan which is who microsoft was trying to capture, the Japanese crowd, so that was just epic failure on that part, plus i heard the NA/EU version will be timed exclusive for PS3 and people will buy that one for sure which leaves microsoft with the leftovers.jpridgen0

Then again thats what I heard I didnt gaurantee it, plus I posted this before Gamespot put up the FXIII news

[QUOTE="zaid55"]How does everyone know that FF7 would remain exclusive if remade?jpridgen0

Easy question, if you recall, FF7 was published by Sony.

bah they need to pull a miracle 2moro because xbox is getting a watered down version of ff13? somehow i think sony will pull through M$ was just workin SE with their massive checkbook but as they tried before it will not be the vital push they are so desperate for this announcement just saved them this E3 which i think isent as important as many more *intense* gamers give it credit for im a big ff fan fft/7/8/10/11 loved them alot esspecialy those first 2 ff7 was my favorite game for a loong time until the mgs series mad won me over with mgs2 and then combined with mgs3 and portable ops never mind guns of the patriots the biggest best game ever made just totaly ruined any other games chance as my favorite lol sony has alot up its sleeve and they will unveil it at the best time ff is important but no one game can really hurt any console they just made crappy 13 available to xbox people because the ff13 saga is guna run for a long time and they will need money to finance that saga and if it is nearly as long as they SE claims it will be what would be a better strategy to lure a big part of the xbox audiance to their new project then to give them the first part that most people will re buy for ps3 do to the enhanced quality

and considering ff7 u wont see cloud on a non sony console they own the majority of the ff7 license so unless sony says put ff7 on xbox it willl never happen just like if sayin M$ would okay halo 4 ps3 lol but halo is major crap just only ms game that is worth something i suppose...

Sony has no weapon guys. lol. No big surprises will be in store. Not like Microsoft's.Symphonycometh

But they would not be surprises if you knew about them :P

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]Sony has no weapon guys. lol. No big surprises will be in store. Not like Microsoft's.thelastguy

But they would not be surprises if you knew about them :P

[QUOTE="PS3videos"]

Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, cool avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements. And don't forget Duffy.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

ChrnoTrigger

Rest of what MS announced was just casual crap, IMO. I was expecting to see more exclusives but they didn't show much at all. FFXIII was what saved them, and stomped sony as of now.

Most definitely. I thought the MS show was pretty lack luster. Most of it is just casual crap, apart from the first 30 minutes of the show. FF13 saved it for sure. If it wasn't for that it would have been a disappointment for sure.

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]Sony has no weapon guys. lol. No big surprises will be in store. Not like Microsoft's.Symphonycometh

But they would not be surprises if you knew about them :P

True, but I am sure you will get me sooner or later :P

Anyone remember a while back when everyone was freaking out when an article was released about a new IP, in which the guy said was amazing? Well, lets just hope that this once TOP SECRET game gets unvieled at the press conference.

Plus, it's not like Sony just sits around and works on nothing, they probably have projects up thier behind. They got done with 2.4, 2.41 (even though that didn't take long), Home, that whole TV thing that goes along with the PS3, and probably tons of othere projects. I think that in the long run, there will be nothing to worry about.

so because the 360 also gets a game the ps3 has they stole the show?... everything but the last couple minutes of the conference was mediocore at best... Lips = ripoff of singstar... avatars = ripoff of mii's... most of the titles they showed were even multiplat.. and their big suprise was that square enix is using them to make more money? gimme a breakdustincrider

ffxiii is supposed to be a huge game.

[QUOTE="dustincrider"]so because the 360 also gets a game the ps3 has they stole the show?... everything but the last couple minutes of the conference was mediocore at best... Lips = ripoff of singstar... avatars = ripoff of mii's... most of the titles they showed were even multiplat.. and their big suprise was that square enix is using them to make more money? gimme a breakthelastguy

ffxiii is supposed to be a huge game.

why dont you go to the 360 forums and take a gander at how many people really care all that much that its coming to their system?

As much as I could care less about FFXIII (*gasp), the fact that Sony isn't taking priority on retaining their exclusives (ex: sequels to Devil May Cry 3, Soul Caliber III, Grand Theft Auto:SA *short period, FFXII etc) is making me doubt my investment in their console. If 360 actually gets MGS4 and the console isn't plagued by the Red Lights, I know I'll chuck my PS3 despite never owning anything from Microsoft or Nintendo. But I also will be suprised if Sony doesn't have something up their sleeve with their press conference (*pleez FFVII, new Metal Gear or Jak)TXMostWanted

Dude I have had my xbox for months and I have not had a single RROD. Sony kids think that ALL xbox 360 have the RROD no matter what.

[QUOTE="lukasz_erecinsk"]All great empires eventually crumble ... are we witnessing Sony's defeat ... I certainly hope not, but simultaneously, I need to admit that it certainly seems so ... xFullSurfacex

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="dustincrider"]so because the 360 also gets a game the ps3 has they stole the show?... everything but the last couple minutes of the conference was mediocore at best... Lips = ripoff of singstar... avatars = ripoff of mii's... most of the titles they showed were even multiplat.. and their big suprise was that square enix is using them to make more money? gimme a breakdustincrider

ffxiii is supposed to be a huge game.

why dont you go to the 360 forums and take a gander at how many people really care all that much that its coming to their system?

That's what i was thinking. Look at the previous rpg's that have come out for the xbox 360, nothing spectacular in terms of sales. I mean, i know of quite a few people with an xbox 360 in real life, and they aren't the kind of people who would look at a final fantasy game, let alone a lesser known rpg game. This news is really only for those who are on the fence, who haven't bought a console yet. And to those who own the 360 and wanted to play FFXIII, well congrats, now you can.

[QUOTE="dustincrider"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="dustincrider"]so because the 360 also gets a game the ps3 has they stole the show?... everything but the last couple minutes of the conference was mediocore at best... Lips = ripoff of singstar... avatars = ripoff of mii's... most of the titles they showed were even multiplat.. and their big suprise was that square enix is using them to make more money? gimme a breakSphire

ffxiii is supposed to be a huge game.

why dont you go to the 360 forums and take a gander at how many people really care all that much that its coming to their system?

That's what i was thinking. Look at the previous rpg's that have come out for the xbox 360, nothing spectacular in terms of sales. I mean, i know of quite a few people with an xbox 360 in real life, and they aren't the kind of people who would look at a final fantasy game, let alone a lesser known rpg game. This news is really only for those who are on the fence, who haven't bought a console yet. And to those who own the 360 and wanted to play FFXIII, well congrats, now you can.

exactly.. 360 owners are having these jrpgs shoved down their throat because microsoft thinks thats what they want.. and thats not a shot at microsoft because last gen that was what people wanted.. bt now their demand is basically in action games (mgs4, Gears of war, Call of Duty, and Halo) or party games (rock band, guitar hero, and a majority of the games for wii)

All great empires eventually crumble ... are we witnessing Sony's defeat ... I certainly hope not, but simultaneously, I need to admit that it certainly seems so ... lukasz_erecinsk

not a defeat, Sony is still lager and has much more than MS in games, the MS conference was good, but we still have to see Sony's.

[QUOTE="TXMostWanted"]As much as I could care less about FFXIII (*gasp), the fact that Sony isn't taking priority on retaining their exclusives (ex: sequels to Devil May Cry 3, Soul Caliber III, Grand Theft Auto:SA *short period, FFXII etc) is making me doubt my investment in their console. If 360 actually gets MGS4 and the console isn't plagued by the Red Lights, I know I'll chuck my PS3 despite never owning anything from Microsoft or Nintendo. But I also will be suprised if Sony doesn't have something up their sleeve with their press conference (*pleez FFVII, new Metal Gear or Jak)Pileofconverse

Dude I have had my xbox for months and I have not had a single RROD. Sony kids think that ALL xbox 360 have the RROD no matter what.

33% that could be you in the future

GO DOWNLOAD HOME NOW!

Thats the only thing that'll save them...

[QUOTE="jpridgen0"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Seriously, they were insulted today by the MS conference. MS stole all their exclusives the past few years and now FFXIII, the title which PS3 owners were most looking forward to.

Let's see how they will stick to their end of the bargain. Anybody remember them saying that they're willing to pay money to buy exclusives as well games being their top priority right now?

I feel like my PS3 has less meaning now that FFXIII is coming to 360 as well, even though I think FFVersus13 looks cooler.

ChrnoTrigger

SE confirmed that Versus is exclusive to the PS3.

Yeah just like FFXIII. I don't know what sony has left to offer but it doesn't look bright at the moment. And I have not seen anything that really makes up for it or could potentially make up for it. It looks like its got just as many good games as the xbox360 does and doesn't look like its going to have a leg up when it comes to exclusive games.

Really the 360 didn't really introduce any new big games but the FFXIII is a big game. As far as new exclusives games go for the 360 I didn't see anything that looked all that good and I'm not really expecting anything from sony. Maybe sony has played enough of FF13 and realizes that its not worth paying for as an exclusive game. I don't know? It looks bad on sony's part when almost every big supposed to be exclusive game goes multiplat every year at E3 and yet sony has no response for it. And the new IP's that sony comes out with usually don't live up to the hype either.

Oh and I think MS forgot to add exclusive downloadable content for FF13 that seems to be the line after every game they steal.

sony doesnt have to do anything. we will hear exactly what we want to hear, + more, then be pissed that they didn't do anything awesome like steal ff13....>

nothing will happen to my ps3 if they dont say something aweosme is going to happen in or around the future, at least i hope not.

[QUOTE="PS3videos"]

Dude, forget Final Fantasy 315, or whatever number they're at. Did you see the rest of the stuff Microsoft announced? The PS3 is getting crushed when it comes to the entire entertainment experience. We're all excited about finally getting trophies and in-game messaging and Microsoft comes in with NetFlix, Cool Avatars, party system and new tv/movie agreements.

Thankfully, I have both systems. But this is turning into a blowout.

whoozwah

lemme get this straight. Sony is getting crushed because Microsoft is jacking stuff from Nintendo?!

LMAO! But it's now in HD! :o Still though they have lots of stuff at least....we don't have so much stuff. (not sure if that made any sense at all)

[QUOTE="Sphire"]

The biggest worry i have is that due to being multiplat, ffxiii won't utilise the ps3's full power, not per se saying that xbox is the weaker console, but simply by looking at previous multiplats, they usually can't compete with ps3 exclusives (not all, like cod4 was good). After playing mgs4, i had high hopes that square-enix could match or better that game, they're a company i know that can pull it off. Now i'm kinda iffy about whether it can stand up to mgs4. But going multiplat, hopefully doesn't deminish the quality.

MajinSoul

Thats what i'm worried about too.

Good point.

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="dustincrider"]so because the 360 also gets a game the ps3 has they stole the show?... everything but the last couple minutes of the conference was mediocore at best... Lips = ripoff of singstar... avatars = ripoff of mii's... most of the titles they showed were even multiplat.. and their big suprise was that square enix is using them to make more money? gimme a breakdustincrider

ffxiii is supposed to be a huge game.

why dont you go to the 360 forums and take a gander at how many people really care all that much that its coming to their system?

Look at how many people care here. PS3 owners seem to care more than the 360 owners.

[QUOTE="dustincrider"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="dustincrider"]so because the 360 also gets a game the ps3 has they stole the show?... everything but the last couple minutes of the conference was mediocore at best... Lips = ripoff of singstar... avatars = ripoff of mii's... most of the titles they showed were even multiplat.. and their big suprise was that square enix is using them to make more money? gimme a breakthelastguy

ffxiii is supposed to be a huge game.

why dont you go to the 360 forums and take a gander at how many people really care all that much that its coming to their system?

Look at how many people care here. PS3 owners seem to care more than the 360 owners.

yea and thats kinda what i was gettin at... why are yall complaining about something which doesnt seem to be that big of a deal?

I sit here and think of Japan. M$ is not going to do much w/ the sales as PS3 dominates that market compared to the 360.... I know several RPG fans who are in love w/ the FF series. Price cut plus FF might make some people go over to M$ who were waiting for this game. I didnt see this announcement comming from a mile away. Only time will tell if this is a huge boost to M$ or not.Diablo2343

FFXIII isin't coming to japan for the 360.

Sony owns half of Hollywood. Your AC DC rock records, Your nakid pics of Jessica Simpson,, They own them. Your grandfathers TV, you TV, your still camera, Your Camcorder. Digital Sony Cybershot, Your new Blu Ray fromat. Lets not forget which format is next. And which lost. Part of Dale Jr and NASCAR, Their the main power behind movies such a spiderman. hey have many sitcom shows on TV even. My Sony mutitrack music recorder. Same ones they use in studios. Or maybe just their headphones?? Their a multimedia superpower. How many pieces of hardwear has Micro made?

They dont just have windows. besides anyone can take a ipod and write zoom on it. And a PS2 and stick a new graphics card in the stand up machine, and write 360 on it. Anyone can take a 3 digital pad 3 diamond button controller, and write Xbox on it. But it dont make you a media company.

What Microsoft has to be ready for, is what Sony and Nintendo already know. Its gaming. And gamers wont alow a single to ever own it. This wont be like thier BS luck with windows. Where they can steal an idea, then be lazy for 20 years. In gaming they will have to be ready to show something new again next month. And the next month. And the month after that. And they have to be ready to do so, Year after year after year. Because the others wont move. And to be honest, I dont think their ready to do that.

And once they realized thats what they have to do. That it will never be burger and fires lunch dinner and super over and over. The way they want. Well lol? Its a war you cant win, And if someone did, gaming would be dead.

Plus I did not see any new games from them that said win. In fact I dont think I saw one new anything from them. It was all sequels and multi platform agames I can play on my PS3, like FF.

But everyone pulls for something like they are. You like monopoly, Hitler Nazi Germany, Brash take overs, cheating. Then You like Microsoft. Or else your mom just would not buy you a PS3 LOL. I can see that. Me im more of a caring guy, who likes a even world for everonyone, so I like sony and nintendo.

I cant fit my myspace in my sig "Why wont my sig alow this?

It alows my youtube??

Stop whining, your still getting the freaking game!! So what if 360 owners get to enjoy it too? Its just a game...Ryder123

If only everyone thought that way.Sadly not everyone does.I mean youll still get FF13 who cares if its going to 360.Not a big deal at all.

Sony will have to pull a billion brick of gold out of their asses to make a good E3 this year. Come on SONY, you can do it you crazy bastards.SPD_WeBmAsTaH

Well they will have a few new games at least. Which will be a first this E3. Im sure Nintendo will have a few also. Both these companies can create from scrath. Will the games be the next big things? Will see.

Sony will have to pull a billion brick of gold out of their asses to make a good E3 this year. Come on SONY, you can do it you crazy bastards.SPD_WeBmAsTaH

Oh and its today to, right after nintendo who is up now.

yeah im sure sony will show off some great multimedia feature i dont give an f about, maybe next gen sony will get back to the games, but im not risking my hard earned money on that gamble again.jmig556

Yea just spend it on economy ripping US conpanies "MICRO" instead. Ruin trade, Kill and evenness to the US business structure. And you will have to work twice as hard to make the same. Because "of exactly what you just said" you bought into it. You feed your pimp. Whos not giving in return. But you would not know anything about all that. Or you do. And you just dont care enough about this place to do anything about it. Which at first I did not know either so? I made that mistake also.

I think Sony's pretty chill about losing the exclusive