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#1 Jbul
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Sigh. Things seem to not be going Sony's way right now. Check out this link from todays news. While it may not seem like a big deal to us here in the US, this is a gargantuan move in Japan, and even more importantly, another developer who flat-out GAVE UP while making a game for the Sony hardware.

Check it out, and discuss: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163572

Not encouraging.

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#2 aaron6581230
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Well it's expect of Capcom to go for more money. Look at how many times Resident Evil 4 has been ported
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#3 K-E316
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Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.
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#4 Harryhit4
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It's always about the money. If you don't make as much money on one platform then on another, you switch. It's the way these companies work. More cash in your pocket is the way to go.

Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.K-E316

Read the article, and his post, again, please.

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#5 thelastguy
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yeah but do you think the Wii version would be anything like the ps3 one? Since the Wii apparently dosent even comptete with the ps3 and yeah its all about the money. If Capcom wouldnt be able to make much of a profit of the ps3 version of course they would expand it to other platforms
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#6 K-E316
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It's always about the money. If you don't make as much money on one platform then on another, you switch. It's the way these companies work. More cash in your pocket is the way to go.

[QUOTE="K-E316"]Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.Harryhit4

Read the article, and his post, again, please.

A popular game in Japan?
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#7 Harryhit4
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[QUOTE="Harryhit4"]

It's always about the money. If you don't make as much money on one platform then on another, you switch. It's the way these companies work. More cash in your pocket is the way to go.

[QUOTE="K-E316"]Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.K-E316

Read the article, and his post, again, please.

A popular game in Japan?

Yeah - I've heard about it, although living in the US, and according to the article, it's as big as GTA4.

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#8 truenextgen
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I said this before. What in the heck is Monster hunter. Ive never heard of it. I mean maybe its good, now RE5 that would be a story. I dont think the public will even care about what they dont know about.
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#9 truenextgen
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[QUOTE="Harryhit4"]

It's always about the money. If you don't make as much money on one platform then on another, you switch. It's the way these companies work. More cash in your pocket is the way to go.

[QUOTE="K-E316"]Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.K-E316

Read the article, and his post, again, please.

A popular game in Japan?

Oh yea ,, I remember now "not lol"

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#10 mosespippy
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[QUOTE="Harryhit4"]

It's always about the money. If you don't make as much money on one platform then on another, you switch. It's the way these companies work. More cash in your pocket is the way to go.

[QUOTE="K-E316"]Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.K-E316

Read the article, and his post, again, please.

A popular game in Japan?

It's also one of the better series on PSP, and semi-popular in North America, but it is kind of a niche market.
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#11 PSdual_wielder
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for some reason monster hunter does really well in japan but the american reviews for it suck. But then it doesn't fit my flavour anyways.
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#12 InfinityMugen
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woe is PS3
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#13 TelcharXI
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Not surprising the age of 3rd party exclusives are more or less done, in about 2 more years and that term will probably not even exist.
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#14 G-Legend
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It sux losing such a big Japanese game, but honestly I hate Capcom and won't support them until they give us an exclusive. Sony has helped them so much throughout the years and they just come back and kick Sony in the balls theyre greedy and clearly don't care about their fans and they are starting to sound more and more like EA...
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#15 NickinAround
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That actually is a HUGE loss. Monster Hunter is absolutely huge in Japan.
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#16 biggamerhk
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im getting extremely annoyed with Capcom--what less could they possibly do for the PS3? they have developed NO games for the PS3 yet (except DMC4), and all of their PS3 exclusive titles have either gone multi or have been made exclusive to other consoles. CMON CAPCOM!!
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#17 heretic92
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well if they make it on the wii instead of the ps3 itll look crap im sure thatll make all the fans of the series happy...
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#18 mushi799
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[QUOTE="K-E316"][QUOTE="Harryhit4"]

It's always about the money. If you don't make as much money on one platform then on another, you switch. It's the way these companies work. More cash in your pocket is the way to go.

[QUOTE="K-E316"]Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.truenextgen

Read the article, and his post, again, please.

A popular game in Japan?

Oh yea ,, I remember now "not lol"

don't take this so lightly, this is a system seller in Japan. Sony lost a big one.

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It sux losing such a big Japanese game, but honestly I hate Capcom and won't support them until they give us an exclusive. Sony has helped them so much throughout the years and they just come back and kick Sony in the balls theyre greedy and clearly don't care about their fans and they are starting to sound more and more like EA...G-Legend

How did sony help them? Was it because their games sold on the PS2? If that is the reason then that isn't Sony helping, but going where the money is and at that time the money was with Sony.

I love how so many people hate when companies leave certain consoles... oh wait i mean the PS3. No offense, but i have only seen Sony people complain about companies and their exclusivity. The reason i state this is because some of the biggest titles Sony gets were from companies that used to be with Nintendo. You remember SquareSoft (now Enix)... yea they were making games for Nintendo and same with Konami (MGS or the other title back with Nintendo).

While neither of those companies i think left for financial reasons they still left (to some extent). All i can sayabout this is atleast Capcom is a good developer compared to EA. Good games that have EA on the box are developed by different companies (Burnout).

I will go on to say though what confuses me with a lot of switching sides. One example is Ace Comabt 6 (besides Microsoft probably buying exclusivity). Now i don't understand that reason they would move the game ENTIRELY to another system. Now going from the PS3 to the Wii kind of makes more sense to not port because that is a huge difference.

Honestly though besides being bought out why move a franchise completely... I'm not trying to rag on people who like Sony because i've never disliked their consoles... just the people who run the company (you can't denie that Sony is the one company that will lie to your face even when you have the facts in your hand...).

I always wanted to try out Monster Hunter, but never got a chance to... Kind of sucks because it looked fun to me.

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#20 TelcharXI
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If we look at each console and this is from my own point of view, that each has its own personality. If we take a look at games that go onto each console they do share sort of a trend ( I will not go into depth about this as this is not the place) and a light hearted game like monster hunter seems more of Wii material. I'm sure Capcom has an idea with the motion sensing and other features the wii can bring, and I'm sure Capcom will release a game on the PS3 that seems to fit the style that is being seen.
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#21 neovalkyr
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wait isnt monster hunter a sort of MMO rpg game? where you go hunting with your friends? since there's no online play on the wii hows that going to work?
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#22 johnnythegamer2
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[sarcasm] No! Not MONSTER HUNTER! AWWW GOD DAMN YOU SONY! DAMN YOU!!![/sarcasm]
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#23 jdt532
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Well this does suck cause Sony wants the PS3 to sell well in every region and this game is huge in Japan, that's what they say anyway, I'll have to take their word on that cause before now I've never heard of this game. FF is also huge in Japan and other regions and that's still PS3 exclusive. I think Sony's philosophy is to make new IPs and sign third party deals for new IPs such as Rockstar's next big franchise being PS3 exclusive. I'm glade Sony is focused more on new games cause if all we got were sequels gaming would get boring. Maybe Sony studios Japan is working on the next big franchise for Japan or maybe they've found the next big Japanese game from a third party and have already signed an exclusive deal with them.
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#24 Jbul
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Well it's expect of Capcom to go for more money. Look at how many times Resident Evil 4 has been portedaaron6581230

The bottom line is indeed a money issue, but more specifically, the developers' cited reason for switching platforms was "developmental costs for PS3". Which should be important to you, if you are a PS3 owner.

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#25 stolz1975
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monster hunter sucks anyways so no biggie
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#26 Jbul
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[sarcasm] No! Not MONSTER HUNTER! AWWW GOD DAMN YOU SONY! DAMN YOU!!![/sarcasm]johnnythegamer2

Read the article again if you missed the point. If that doesn't work, then maybe you don't deserve to understand. ;)

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#27 unasyn
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[sarcasm] No! Not MONSTER HUNTER! AWWW GOD DAMN YOU SONY! DAMN YOU!!![/sarcasm]johnnythegamer2

:D :D :D

let me add to this

[sarcasm + sportscaster's voice] oh no! a shocking loss! [/sarcasm + sportcaster's voice]

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#28 johnnythegamer2
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[sarcasm] OMG...why did Sony let this one slip...oh well. Just gotta wait for fl0wer to come out. [/sarcasm]

Iwant Haze, Call of Duty 4, SingStar, GT5, Killzone 2, Army of Two...i could go on and on...and your telling me other people in other countries don't? Pfft, if anything Gran Turismo and Loco Roco are system sellers.

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#29 Jbul
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That actually is a HUGE loss. Monster Hunter is absolutely huge in Japan.NickinAround

Bingo. And, it's a statement that Capcom left a Sony platform, despite the potential consequences, on a game that huge.

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#30 lhbchen
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please put search function into well use,,,pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzz
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#31 johnnythegamer2
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God damn people, you are acting as if Sony just lost Resident Evil 5 and putting it on the Wii...calm down folks.

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#32 FireFalkon
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I'd do the same, the Wii is a HUGE market, sony would've to pay a lot to keep the game exclusive.

Any game that can be ported to the Wii must have realy bad gfx and gameplay, ps3 owners didn't lose much IMO.

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#33 Jbul
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It actually takes a minute understanding of business transactions to understand why this is a big deal for US PS3 gamers. A response like yours wouldn't surprise me in the 360 forums, but here? Pppfft. :| Oh well...

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#34 jdt532
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God damn people, you are acting as if Sony just lost Resident Evil 5 and putting it on the Wii...calm down folks.

johnnythegamer2

You don't get it... This is big news in JAPAN... They're saying this game in Japan is like GTA in the NA/Europe. This may come as a shock to you but Japanese people have different tastes in games than Americans and Europeans... Still Sony isn't stupid and they know games sell systems so they probably have other games lined up for Japan.

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#35 unasyn
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God damn people, you are acting as if Sony just lost Resident Evil 5 and putting it on the Wii...calm down folks.

johnnythegamer2

I agree with you.

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#36 jermaki
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Big Deal! I wouldn't buy the game anyway!!!
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#37 heyheydoh
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Well this kinda stinks. I wanted to see the Monster hunter series in Hi-def, not some 480p 4:3 crap.
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#38 OmegaOrtega
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Oh well. Atleast the 360 isn't getting it.

That would be worse since it's PS3's direct rival.

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#39 johnnythegamer2
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Well this kinda stinks. I wanted to see the Monster hunter series in Hi-def, not some 480p 4:3 crap.heyheydoh

PS3 upscales now btw :D.

I see what you guys are saying, but Japan has it the best. That is just 1 game that probably wasnt even going to be that good (if it works on the wii good...i wont even finish lol)Japan has got it good...they have all our American titles and then some.

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#40 KrazyC18
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NO!!!!!! I COULDNT WAIT FOR THIS!!!!! ahhhh! i played psp version and culdnt wait for online!! whyyyyyy!!
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#41 kenshinhimura16
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Whats Monster Hunter? Well it doesnt sound huge to me.K-E316

Monster Hunter is a franchise that failed terribly on EU and USA, but has enormous popularity on Japan. I myself am a fan of it, and this news broke my heart, but then, the game is more suited for the Wii imo, those who played it and now the controllers understand me

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#42 Steel_Rain777
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It can, undoubtingly, make the Sony lose some of its fan base due to the fact that many people will believe that most exclusive titles for the PS3 can't stay exclusive. Plus the game itself is very huge in Japan, so it may not effect some of us stateside, but nevertheless hurt PS3 owners in the long run.
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#43 fistoflight
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Well capcom is out for the money but the game isn't gonna make an impacta nywhere except japan but its gonna be released around the time the ps3 releases final fantasy and mgs4.
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#44 Jbul
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[QUOTE="heyheydoh"]Well this kinda stinks. I wanted to see the Monster hunter series in Hi-def, not some 480p 4:3 crap.johnnythegamer2

PS3 upscales now btw :D.

I see what you guys are saying, but Japan has it the best. That is just 1 game that probably wasnt even going to be that good (if it works on the wii good...i wont even finish lol)Japan has got it good...they have all our American titles and then some.

Now you're starting to see why it's important. See, I could honestly care less about the game itself. Never played, not really interested in trying it.

But the important thing that is happening here, is, a game that is as bigin Japan as Grand Theft Auto is here, is being abandoned by one of the world's premiere developers because the hardware is "too expensive" to develop for (Capcom's offical reason).

Let me reiterate, it's not about the game itself. It's about the business aspects of this transaction, and how it probably means a strained (developmental and business) relationship with Capcom, which adds to a laundry list of problems Sony seems to be having with developers right now. And believe it, this is going to affect US gamers. A title that huge, and Capcom says bye bye? Even the simplest of minds should be able to see the potential impact of this.

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#45 johnnythegamer2
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I see the potential impact, but the branch of Capcom that was working on this game is obviously lazy, if you can't make an anime based game for the PS3 while other devs are pulling off much much more better quality games, then I'm sorry, you're nothing more than lazy and unexperienced. Take a look at devs like Ubisoft, some of their branches can manage to pull off games as beautiful as Prince of Persiia and Haze on the PS3 but yet they can't manage to even PORT a game (Splinter Cell) to the PS3. It's different branches that have lazy devs.
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#46 Jbul
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I see the potential impact, but the branch of Capcom that was working on this game is obviously lazy, if you can't make an anime based game for the PS3 while other devs are pulling off much much more better quality games, then I'm sorry, you're nothing more than lazy and unexperienced. Take a look at devs like Ubisoft, some of their branches can manage to pull off games as beautiful as Prince of Persiia and Haze on the PS3 but yet they can't manage to even PORT a game (Splinter Cell) to the PS3. It's different branches that have lazy devs.johnnythegamer2

They're not lazy, they're just not supportive of the Sony platform for one reason or another. Perhaps they don't see a future in it, because every time they start developing for the hardware, they run into problems. PS3 has a very well-known reputation for being very challenging to develop for. Can this change as developers learn more about how to make games for the system? Yeah, but from the current situation, things aren't looking so breezy for Sony (not hating, I love my PS3).

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#47 johnnythegamer2
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If it is so challenging to some developers, I'm glad they don't make the games for it because then I would be turned off by the crappiness and quality of these games...
It's the devs like Criterion, Insomniac and many others (there are tons of great devs) that actually learn the system and not just say, oops it like tottaly froze on me, o well let's take what we have so far and put it on Wii cuz it's easier. These awesome devs are accepting the challenges (which don't really seem to be from the quality of their work) and producing quality games, multi-plat or not, that they get tons of cash for regardless of platform.

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#48 ChancreScolex
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I'm not completely buying the "development cost for the PS3" thing. If you've seen the screenshots it looks like they ported the PS2 assets over. I'm not worried though as I was getting a Wii down the line anyway (it's cheap), that and Capcom is notorious for porting stuff. Remember RE4, Killer 7 and Viewtiful Joe ALL being Gamecube exclusive? Do you also remember where they ended up not too long afterwards?
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#49 Miguel16
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Seems logical...Put a game on a starving system where people in the NA will buy i as well as definately japan. The production values will be horrible and cheap so you can maximize profits. Or they can spend a lot of money developing a next gen title that will most likely only do well in japan. Couple that with the difference in install base, its not hard to understand the reasons behind this move
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#50 truenextgen
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Man we got alot of post lifter in here. I never thought a post about a game """no one!!! even cares about, would go this long.



Thats the name we give you guys lol. You got the guys who make the post, then those who keep them afloat.