Sony vs Geohot is over!

They settled out of court. Geohotz agreed to leave the PS3 alone and to not post anything else dealing with the system or ways to hack it.

http://www.destructoid.com/george-geohot-hotz-and-sony-settle-out-of-court-198595.phtml

until the PS4 of course ;)starwarsjunky

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]until the PS4 of course ;)MrSelf-Destruct

So Geo near enough won.

At least this means we can move on to talking about the joys of gaming again, and leave this footnote to fade. Thanks for posting this, Mr. SD!!!

At least this means we can move on to talking about the joys of gaming again, and leave this footnote to fade. Thanks for posting this, Mr. SD!!!

MonkeySpot

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

At least this means we can move on to talking about the joys of gaming again, and leave this footnote to fade. Thanks for posting this, Mr. SD!!!

starwarsjunky

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

At least this means we can move on to talking about the joys of gaming again, and leave this footnote to fade. Thanks for posting this, Mr. SD!!!

MrSelf-Destruct

SW Junkie always makes me laugh... Even when the gags are two-bit. He means well. As I'm sure you know!

:lol:

SW Junkie always makes me laugh... Even when the gags are two-bit. He means well. As I'm sure you know!

:lol:

MonkeySpot

SW Junkie always makes me laugh... Even when the gags are two-bit. He means well. As I'm sure you know!

:lol:

MonkeySpot

You think Anon will take credit for this? :PRakuho

You think Anon will take credit for this? :PRakuho

Not even trips could keep anon from taking credit for this one.

until the PS4 of course ;)starwarsjunky

I think from this experience...Sony will make it a little more difficult to hack their next system.

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]until the PS4 of course ;)MarcRecon

I think from this experience...Sony will make it a little more difficult to hack their next system.

And, we as consumers as well as a community should take note and be more helpful in this regard. Not to roll over and become a target for consumer-sodomy by ANY means, but perhaps alter our habits and acceptance of things which have become "every-day life" like illegal downloads and other forms of tech which will only harm our future as a community.

Teach your children well, as the song lyric goes.

We are end-users, but we also have a responsibility in that arrangement, if we desire it's continuation in any healthy respect.

LOL, he gave up.

LOL, he gave up.

mitu123

glad this mess is over.

Off-topic - Hot damn I approve of the new sig and avi.

The question on everyone's minds now:

This is a victory for Sony, even if Hotz will not be paying them fines for the rest of his life. Sony still got what they wanted-- Hotz has been silenced, and he can no longer put out hacks for their systems. And now, they can go after anyone else who tries to pick up where he left off. Overall, this is the first step towards bringing real security back to the PS3.

At least this means we can move on to talking about the joys of gaming again, and leave this footnote to fade. Thanks for posting this, Mr. SD!!!

MonkeySpot

Story is also up here on GameSpot.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6307711.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B1

Sony definity didn't win this.

Sony definity didn't win this.

Newhopes

I am glad this is over. It was getting too ridiculous! Especially that part where Sony was getting people's IP addresses. Serously. I can't belive the hard core Sony fans was defending Sony in taking our IP address. Now, we can actually talk about games agian!

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

Sony definity didn't win this.

hiryu3

I'm glad it was settled peacefully, I hate software hackers as much as the next guy (as long as they hate software hackers), but a bunch of angry hackers is never good.

Sony definity didn't win this.

Newhopes

Well, not in the grand scheme of things, as the keys are already out, but it undeniably did in this particular case against hotz.

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

Sony definity didn't win this.

hiryu3

Sony where trying to ban hacking full stop but it looks like they knew they where going to lose that part of the case, so they probably used the fact Geo released the keys as leverage to force him to accept the injunction.

It probably went like this, accept this injunction and walk away scotch free or we'll continue and you'll recieve a large fine.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

LOL, he gave up.

commonfate

glad this mess is over.

Off-topic - Hot damn I approve of the new sig and avi.

[QUOTE="hiryu3"][QUOTE="Newhopes"]

Sony definity didn't win this.

Newhopes

Sony where trying to ban hacking full stop but it looks like they knew they where going to lose that part of the case, so they probably used the fact Geo released the keys as leverage to force him to accept the injunction.

It probably went like this, accept this injunction and walk away scotch free or we'll continue and you'll recieve a large fine.

You have no idea how it went so stop talking out of your ass

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="hiryu3"] SMH, please enlighten us with your insider information to confirm thisStaceys_Mom

Sony where trying to ban hacking full stop but it looks like they knew they where going to lose that part of the case, so they probably used the fact Geo released the keys as leverage to force him to accept the injunction.

It probably went like this, accept this injunction and walk away scotch free or we'll continue and you'll recieve a large fine.

You have no idea how it went so stop talking out of your ass

So people saying Sony have won are talking out there asses then?

Thank god, cause i can't wait to see what he has up his sleeve next..

I'm not going to argue with you. Just read this: http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6/26802d1302540442-settlement-george-hotz-case-127-stipulation.pdf

It clearly states in this legally binding document that Hotz can't do anything to any Sony product. He can't even take one apart. If he does so or helps anyone else do so he is in clear violation of the agreement and is responsible for paying Sony $10,000.00 for every violation. He's legally bound by this and his hands are now tied. That's all Sony wanted.

This should also show any other would be hackers that they cannot just do what they want. Of course, they'll do it anyway, but they won't be dumb enough to announce it to the world next time. Because I'm sure no one wants to be in a position where changing the HDD in their PS3 could cost them $10,000.00.

If you still believe Sony lost and George won that's fine. That's how you perceive it, and I'm not going to try to change your mind.

^Thanks for the link, it sheds some more light on the issue at hand. And I guess I shouldn't say that I think Hotz won. I don't think anyone "won". It's really a lose lose scenario. I'll also say I'm not looking for an argument here either. I respect your opinion. Mine is still different, mind you, but I respect where you're coming from. But I will say that if it was that easy to deter hackers, hacking would have stopped in the 80's. BTW, your sig is hilarious. What's that from?i_noseworthy

my sig is from Parks and Recreation. Its a pretty funny show if you every need a good laugh. MrSelf-Destruct

Oh WOW... that show has been in my NetFlix streaming cue for about two weeks, but I haven't seen it yet because I'm mowing though "The X-Files" (first time watching it in about a decade, I didn't realize how many I missed while out on the road!!! Great show.)

I've been wondering where you got that... I'm gonna step it up in my cue.

Hotz definitely "got off easy." Though, I don't think this changes anything in terms for Sony's views. They came to a settlement that Hotz can no longer circumvent the PS3 in any shape or form and to remove keys that was posted in his website. Not really sure what the does since I'm sure the keys have already been distributed all over the internet. :/

I'm not going to argue with you. Just read this: http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6/26802d1302540442-settlement-george-hotz-case-127-stipulation.pdf

It clearly states in this legally binding document that Hotz can't do anything to any Sony product. He can't even take one apart. If he does so or helps anyone else do so he is in clear violation of the agreement and is responsible for paying Sony $10,000.00 for every violation. He's legally bound by this and his hands are now tied. That's all Sony wanted.

This should also show any other would be hackers that they cannot just do what they want. Of course, they'll do it anyway, but they won't be dumb enough to announce it to the world next time. Because I'm sure no one wants to be in a position where changing the HDD in their PS3 could cost them $10,000.00.

If you still believe Sony lost and George won that's fine. That's how you perceive it, and I'm not going to try to change your mind.

MrSelf-Destruct

Hotz definitely "got off easy." Though, I don't think this changes anything in terms for Sony's views. They came to a settlement that Hotz can no longer circumvent the PS3 in any shape or form and to remove keys that was posted in his website. Not really sure what the does since I'm sure the keys have already been distributed all over the internet. :/

Spade_Crisis