Street fighter x Tekken DLC already on disk!!!

This all started with Resident Evil 5 versus mode, 5 dollars for a 100KB file that "Cracks" your game hahaha. I don't know if other companies started the disk included DLCs after this or if they even did, but capcom is pretty much dead to me. Ah, good and old ps1-ps2 days.

This all started with Resident Evil 5 versus mode, 5 dollars for a 100KB file that "Cracks" your game hahaha. I don't know if other companies started the disk included DLCs after this or if they even did, but capcom is pretty much dead to me. Ah, good and old ps1-ps2 days.

Scrotous

Personally, I would love to see more DLC locked on-disc, because the hackers will make quick toast of whatever the lock is, and then the genie is out of the bottle.

This is only going to breed more Robin-Hood behaviour the way I see it, by hackers and other bottom-feeders. They'll use this as a rally cry, like they did last spring, and the war will continue. I don't condone piracy, and I'm not a hack supporter by any means, but I'm just saying I can see cause & effect happening here.

I don't care if a game has DLC, I don't feel like I'm obligated to purchase anything, and for the last two CoD games, I haven't bothered with map packs and I still have just as much fun with my friends... It's not a compulsive triggerpoint for me, but I can understand people who do feel that way. I think they're somewhat high-strung, but I'm not going to tell another gamer how to "properly" enjoy what they play. That's far from my place to say.

I have paid for DLC on "IL*2 Sturmovik", which I thought was pretty good and it added to the game experience for me (plus I'm a fan of the Thunderbolt so it's a no-brainer), but if the DLC never got made, I would have still rated "Sturmovik" as one of the best aerial combat games in my collection, it would still feel like a "complete" game, and still one of my top-three PS3 games. I'm not driven like some folks are, to get everything done and pick up a plat, etc., but I support those who DO feel that way. I think it was EA Sports which finally broke me out of that group, with "Tiger" and "Fight Night Round 4". "Fight Night" especially, got me to wake up because ALL of the DLC for that game was on the disc, and there was literally HALF the game modes and options I had on "Fight Night" for my PS2 only a couple of years before.

Unless, of course, I wanted to pay more than the money I already had spent. THere was no possibility of playing any of the DLC modes or boxers via straight-out winning at the game.

Being an old-fart gamer, I was miffed because it seems like earning anything extra out of a game in terms of content has been permanently replaced by micro-transactions. While I don't mind the option to purchase said content, it would be more incentive to play or replay a game if there were actual content stuff to unlock, instead of paying for it. I would go for plat trophies, if they actually translated into something of a reward (like even the laziest of lazy unlockables: Concept Art, or Costume Changes :lol: ) instead of just feeling like an exercise in Pavlovian Conditioning...

Nowadays, due to budget constraints of being a family man, I wait for the Greatest Hits version of most games because all of the DLC is unlocked, and disc-based so that I don't eat up ever-dwindling HDD space... Yeah, you need to wait a long time for those versions sometimes (I JUST got a copy of "Resident Evil 5" to call my own, the "Gold Edition"... So I hadda wait for nearly 3 years to put it on my shelf, so what?)

:lol:

I have all the DLC, and the game, for $17.99 ...It was a long wait, but to me it was worth it...

To Shang & Cell, I hear your screams. And, I understand your position even though I might not agree with every bullet-point. But after all of the lessons we've learned about early adoption over the last decade of hardware & software alike, you two should join my Patience Party and wait out some of these titles?

;)

Just an idea to kick around... There's plenty of room for you on the couch with me, friends! We'll play some SFIV or some "Tekken 6" while we wait for the prices to fall and the DLC to become free. I'm terrible, you two will slaughter me! Pass the Beer Nuts, will ya?

:D

Personally, I would love to see more DLC locked on-disc, because the hackers will make quick toast of whatever the lock is, and then the genie is out of the bottle.

This is only going to breed more Robin-Hood behaviour the way I see it, by hackers and other bottom-feeders. They'll use this as a rally cry, like they did last spring, and the war will continue. I don't condone piracy, and I'm not a hack supporter by any means, but I'm just saying I can see cause & effect happening here.

I don't care if a game has DLC, I don't feel like I'm obligated to purchase anything, and for the last two CoD games, I haven't bothered with map packs and I still have just as much fun with my friends... It's not a compulsive triggerpoint for me, but I can understand people who do feel that way. I think they're somewhat high-strung, but I'm not going to tell another gamer how to "properly" enjoy what they play. That's far from my place to say.

I have paid for DLC on "IL*2 Sturmovik", which I thought was pretty good and it added to the game experience for me (plus I'm a fan of the Thunderbolt so it's a no-brainer), but if the DLC never got made, I would have still rated "Sturmovik" as one of the best aerial combat games in my collection, it would still feel like a "complete" game, and still one of my top-three PS3 games. I'm not driven like some folks are, to get everything done and pick up a plat, etc., but I support those who DO feel that way. I think it was EA Sports which finally broke me out of that group, with "Tiger" and "Fight Night Round 4". "Fight Night" especially, got me to wake up because ALL of the DLC for that game was on the disc, and there was literally HALF the game modes and options I had on "Fight Night" for my PS2 only a couple of years before.

Unless, of course, I wanted to pay more than the money I already had spent. THere was no possibility of playing any of the DLC modes or boxers via straight-out winning at the game.

Being an old-fart gamer, I was miffed because it seems like earning anything extra out of a game in terms of content has been permanently replaced by micro-transactions. While I don't mind the option to purchase said content, it would be more incentive to play or replay a game if there were actual content stuff to unlock, instead of paying for it. I would go for plat trophies, if they actually translated into something of a reward (like even the laziest of lazy unlockables: Concept Art, or Costume Changes :lol: ) instead of just feeling like an exercise in Pavlovian Conditioning...

Nowadays, due to budget constraints of being a family man, I wait for the Greatest Hits version of most games because all of the DLC is unlocked, and disc-based so that I don't eat up ever-dwindling HDD space... Yeah, you need to wait a long time for those versions sometimes (I JUST got a copy of "Resident Evil 5" to call my own, the "Gold Edition"... So I hadda wait for nearly 3 years to put it on my shelf, so what?)

:lol:

I have all the DLC, and the game, for $17.99 ...It was a long wait, but to me it was worth it...

To Shang & Cell, I hear your screams. And, I understand your position even though I might not agree with every bullet-point. But after all of the lessons we've learned about early adoption over the last decade of hardware & software alike, you two should join my Patience Party and wait out some of these titles?

;)

Just an idea to kick around... There's plenty of room for you on the couch with me, friends! We'll play some SFIV or some "Tekken 6" while we wait for the prices to fall and the DLC to become free. I'm terrible, you two will slaughter me! Pass the Beer Nuts, will ya?

:D

MonkeySpot

a lot of interesting points mentioned.. my whole gripe is this, why can't we just unlock the extra characters the old fashion way? ya know, by beating arcade mode with different characters it unlocks different characters.. that was fun and exciting! and it made u appreciate the extra characters u unlocked a lot more, cause afterall it took skill to unlock them! unfortunately thanks to the internet, money, greed, and selfishness this is becoming a thing of the past, if its not already.. :(

ShangTsung17

When I unlocked Noob Saibot, Smoke, and other characters finally in MK back in the day, I was ecstatic... I'm with you all the way on wanting to let my skills do the talking, instead of my wallet.

:D

Allowing folks to buy out of unlocks ought to be the option, not the rule.

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

a lot of interesting points mentioned.. my whole gripe is this, why can't we just unlock the extra characters the old fashion way? ya know, by beating arcade mode with different characters it unlocks different characters.. that was fun and exciting! and it made u appreciate the extra characters u unlocked a lot more, cause afterall it took skill to unlock them! unfortunately thanks to the internet, money, greed, and selfishness this is becoming a thing of the past, if its not already.. :(

MonkeySpot

When I unlocked Noob Saibot, Smoke, and other characters finally in MK back in the day, I was ecstatic... I'm with you all the way on wanting to let my skills do the talking, instead of my wallet.

:D

Allowing folks to buy out of unlocks ought to be the option, not the rule.

... It's just wrong for game companies to do that!

ShangTsung17

Welcome to the future... The future is now.

:(

The more these conditions and situations proliferate, the happier I am on the Legacy Forum Page... With my old-azz games, and my old-azz systems from before the Intra-nets. I've been actively collecting for Dreamcast through the O.G. Xbox time period for the last two years as apposed to buying much for my PS3... And until lately, I wasn't exactly sure why I felt such an imperative... But now I know, it's because that "Rainy Day" is rapidly approaching where I will need those older games & systems I've been hoarding... Like the forest creatures in the vacinity of Mount St. Helen scattering just before the volcano blew it's stack, I must have had a subconscious sense that days like these were coming.

:lol:

I think it's pretty sad that gaming has been so watered-down by the same idiocy that now governs pee-wee sports in my country - Everyone gets a ribbon or a trophy simply for participating, because they don't want anyone to grow up with a self-image problem from being declared the loser of a game as a child... So let's do away with earning your content because we don't want anyone to feel left out due to unequal skills, just allow people to buy it ONLY... Oh, and it's more profitable that way, too, which I'm sure weighs in pretty heavily in the equation... Why give away what can be sold...

:|

... Pathetic.

That's one of the reasons I really like "Resistance: Fall of Man" - They gave you new-game-plus, with wilder weapons and tougher difficulty settings. Say what you will about it's originality, at least it has unlockables in common with the games it copied.

:D

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

... It's just wrong for game companies to do that!

MonkeySpot

Welcome to the future... The future is now.

:(

The more these conditions and situations proliferate, the happier I am on the Legacy Forum Page... With my old-azz games, and my old-azz systems from before the Intra-nets. I've been actively collecting for Dreamcast through the O.G. Xbox time period for the last two years as apposed to buying much for my PS3... And until lately, I wasn't exactly sure why I felt such an imperative... But now I know, it's because that "Rainy Day" is rapidly approaching where I will need those older games & systems I've been hoarding... Like the forest creatures in the vacinity of Mount St. Helen scattering just before the volcano blew it's stack, I must have had a subconscious sense that days like these were coming.

:lol:

I think it's pretty sad that gaming has been so watered-down by the same idiocy that now governs pee-wee sports in my country - Everyone gets a ribbon or a trophy simply for participating, because they don't want anyone to grow up with a self-image problem from being declared the loser of a game as a child... So let's do away with earning your content because we don't want anyone to feel left out due to unequal skills, just allow people to buy it ONLY... Oh, and it's more profitable that way, too, which I'm sure weighs in pretty heavily in the equation... Why give away what can be sold...

:|

... Pathetic.

That's one of the reasons I really like "Resistance: Fall of Man" - They gave you new-game-plus, with wilder weapons and tougher difficulty settings. Say what you will about it's originality, at least it has unlockables in common with the games it copied.

:D

Legacy of Kain. the original for ps1, VERY rare but if u search hard enough u can occasionally find auctions for it on ebay, but don't assume you'll get it cheap.

Soull Reaver. for ps1, also rare but an epic game and easier to find.

Soul Reaver 2. on ps2, one of my favs.. a must have and pretty easy to find.

Blood Omen 2. on ps2, my ABSOLUTE favorite game EVER made! its legendary.. we'll just leave it at that.. lol

Legacy of Kain: Defiance. on ps2, the last of the series and sob did it ever go out with a BANG, POW, BOOM! also a must have and pretty easy to find.

check these out bro, you'll be addicted.. well worth the investment, trust me. ;)

u should really check out the Legacy of Kain series, since your an old school gamer like me, it was discontinued and thats a good thing cause the next gen idea's would've ruined it.ShangTsung17

There are heavy rumors that a new Legacy of Kain is in the works. I believe in those rumors and the game I'm thinking will be announced sometime after Hitman and sometime around when more details emerge about Thief 4. I'm sure there will be killstreaks and multiplayer. They'll probably change the main vampire characters to sparkle blue and such too.

Legacy of Kain. the original for ps1, VERY rare but if u search hard enough u can occasionally find auctions for it on ebay, but don't assume you'll get it cheap.

Soull Reaver. for ps1, also rare but an epic game and easier to find.

Soul Reaver 2. on ps2, one of my favs.. a must have and pretty easy to find.

Blood Omen 2. on ps2, my ABSOLUTE favorite game EVER made! its legendary.. we'll just leave it at that.. lol

Legacy of Kain: Defiance. on ps2, the last of the series and sob did it ever go out with a BANG, POW, BOOM! also a must have and pretty easy to find.

check these out bro, you'll be addicted.. well worth the investment, trust me. ;)

ShangTsung17

Got 'em, already. No need for PSN, theyz On DISC.

:)

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]u should really check out the Legacy of Kain series, since your an old school gamer like me, it was discontinued and thats a good thing cause the next gen idea's would've ruined it.soundcellx

There are heavy rumors that a new Legacy of Kain is in the works. I believe in those rumors and the game I'm thinking will be announced sometime after Hitman and sometime around when more details emerge about Thief 4. I'm sure there will be killstreaks and multiplayer. They'll probably change the main vampire characters to sparkle blue and such too.

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

Legacy of Kain. the original for ps1, VERY rare but if u search hard enough u can occasionally find auctions for it on ebay, but don't assume you'll get it cheap.

Soull Reaver. for ps1, also rare but an epic game and easier to find.

Soul Reaver 2. on ps2, one of my favs.. a must have and pretty easy to find.

Blood Omen 2. on ps2, my ABSOLUTE favorite game EVER made! its legendary.. we'll just leave it at that.. lol

Legacy of Kain: Defiance. on ps2, the last of the series and sob did it ever go out with a BANG, POW, BOOM! also a must have and pretty easy to find.

check these out bro, you'll be addicted.. well worth the investment, trust me. ;)

MonkeySpot

Got 'em, already. No need for PSN, theyz On DISC.

:)

check out this site if u haven't already.. its an official LOK site for the hardcore fans, doctrinates EVERY story from the very begining including before Kain was even turned- thelostworlds.net

One thing is for sure. Me, ShangTsung, MonkeySpot and the other Castlevania hector-looking guy are in the right state of mind. Games were something suposed to be a big fat disk(catridge, whatever floats your boat) that you buy, you play every MB of data included in a piece of PHYSICAL device that you just bought. So now disk included DLC is good because your HD is full and you're too lazy to delete some garbage you'll never use again? Oh wait, just buy a bigger HD! But then again that just places you in the mean money spending type of guy, which enforces the point of having too much money and being a conformist. Oh sure, we're all at a crisis here, must support developers!

Should we support developers because we're too afraid of seeing gaming world dying or because they're giving us some quality time? Sure once we grow up, we all start working at some company and think about its needs. Yeah well thought, do that for the company you work at. But would it be worth it if you did your work for such greedy companies just cause you want your pockets full? Yeah i do work, pay my bills and everything, but money can never buy dignity.

In the past, games were nothing but just a toy that a bunch of kids played with. Now it makes more money than Hollywood? Now we must accept whatever kind of business they throw at us, because thats where the world is going to. Just accept it and die like a fool, because the world is being populated by zombies of the media. Even though i am an outsider, i do believe that those are harsh but true words.

Sure, you can plan ahead your DLCs but at least do it with honesty to costumers.

PS: Don't do drugs, do beers(even though it is a legal drug and i'm drunk, doesn't make what i said any less important).

I'm not supporting that crap. It wasn't necessary and totally greedy. Watch the Jimquisition on the Escapist for a good explanation. This is terrible and Capcom is horrendous.Chaos_Bladez

Well said, capcom should just stop trying to make games by now, because they can't make one. R.I.P. Capcom, it was pretty good following you until after DMC4.

Capcom have become one of the worst companies in the biz. They take advantage of their fanbase and constantly throw the middle finger to their customers. Paying full price for a game and not being able to play all the content? That's ridiculous. If DLC is created after the game is finished I can support that to a certain degree. If it's either with held form the final product or even worse locked onto the disk, well, that's a practise I just cannot and will not support.Keir21

One more to the cause? Who else supports such idea? It is indeed plain robbery. Whoever cannot see that, can just rip off their eyes because they can't see what's right in front of them. "Oh wait i'm rich haha i can afford anything, even thieves daily". Capcom, just quit it, you've lost to your own stupidity. WE BUY or at least USED TO BUY your games, pay us some damn respect!

Edit: Maybe its no wonder why Inafune left company, he had the ideas but they wouldn't let him use it. Ha Ideas? What for? lets just use what we have over and over again, until we can't afford game development anymore and split the entire company. Capcom used to be one of my biggest favourites, now it's the biggest joke. Also i highly doubt that RE6 can save their latest fiasco, i want to laugh so hard but i feel sorry for them... after providing alot of good games in the past, its just unaccepatble nowadays. If they did more of the same on resident evil would've been a sure win. But even that they couldn't.

i quit giving a sh!t about capcom after i read in a recent article that they've decided to ditch anymore new meterial and ONLY do sequels.. thats some weak @ss sh!t right there! talk about lazy... no wonder RE: O racoon city sucked balls puked up from a blender! and then ofcourse what pretty much sealed there fate, the whole *locked extra characters on disk* sf x tekken made into dlc so they could milk more money from those of us who have no hacking experience.. and lets not forget this isn't the first time they've pulled this sh!t.. umvc3 was discovered to have done the same thing, i'm starting to wonder if everyone at capcom is doing crack! like seriously...

if its on the disk then they should do as games like this have always done which is UNLOCK BY PLAYING THRU ARCADE MODE! after all we PAID for your product... that would be like if u bought a car, and the body was the only thing included, everything else the wheels, the brakes, mufflers, stirring wheel, all sold seperate... ya know?

[QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"]I'm not supporting that crap. It wasn't necessary and totally greedy. Watch the Jimquisition on the Escapist for a good explanation. This is terrible and Capcom is horrendous.Scrotous

Well said, capcom should just stop trying to make games by now, because they can't make one. R.I.P. Capcom, it was pretty good following you until after DMC4.