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#51 xuimod
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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"]a game renowned...ur opinion.... one of the best games for the ps1...ur opinion... i won't be able to soar in bt formations of enemy fighters....never confirmed...just YOUR speculation...just ur hopes....(just b/c it was in a trailer doesn't mean it was confirmed for single player) try basing ur arguments on confirmed facts. its pointless arguing with a person like u who bases everyting he/she sais on their opinion and speculation and very little in the way of facts. FACTS...say it with me...FACTS.

FACT: The original Warhawk received an average rating of 89.4% on GameRankings. Hell, that's a better score than any game on the PS3 right now except for Oblivion. FACT: You play a game, then you expect its sequel or remake to at least resemble it. You don't play Ace Combat and then expect its sequel to be Battlefield 2, and you don't play WarCraft III and expect its sequel to be Rome: Total War. FACT: The VERY FIRST GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE of Warhawk, which was DEMOED LIVE at E3, showed EXACTLY the kind of gameplay I'm talking about. Swarms of enemy fighters launching from flying aircraft carriers, targeting a dozen at a time, massive aerial battles where you literally take on the world by yourself, etc. Get over yourself.

LOL....the 2nd thing is not a fact...ur expectations are not facts. face it games evolve, if they don't evolve the way u like it then too bad. btw, how is the 3rd fact different from having a multiplayer game with warhawks only? besides being single player and fighting bots instead of real players, to me, its pretty much the same thing.

The second fact is a perfectly reasonable expectation considering THAT'S WHAT SEQUELS ARE. As for how the third fact is different from a 32-person multiplayer game with Warhawks-only, well, this was the original single-player gameplay. A HELL of a lot more than 32 fighters in those swarms.

its not a formal sequel, if it was it would be called Warhawk 2. btw, i think the trailer looks worse then the multi-only. it would be interesting for 5mins then i would be like, who cares. dogfighting against bots gets old pretty quickly.

You're right, it was marketed as a REMAKE. That just makes it worse. And have you even played the original Warhawk? You accuse me of being 16 years old (eight years too young). Just how old are YOU?

...'You're right, it was marketed as a REMAKE. That just makes it worse.'...again, just ur opinion...that statement means nothing. and btw, do u have the memory of a gerbil or something? i already said i played the original wahawk. and i'm a lot older than 16 (off by about 15yrs).

Really? Because from the way you describe the original, it seems like you've never played it at all, otherwise you would have known that you don't dogfight against bots. It sounds like you're just trying to trash a classic to justify its "reimagination" into a bastardized hybrid of a game that will likely fall into mediocrity when the REAL heavy hitters of its online multiplayer-only genre (the aforementioned UT3, Quake Wars, etc.) are released. And if it was marketed as a REMAKE, wouldn't you expect it to REMAKE the original's gameplay? :roll: That just justifies my indignation even more that they COMPLETELY ABANDONED the old gameplay in favor of this half-baked trash. The bottom-line is that they could have created a kick-ass action flight simulator whose gameplay has only been done once before, but instead chose to jump on the Battlefield bandwagon for no reason other than that they couldn't figure out that ground-based missions in a game that was fundamentally meant to be a flight sim SUCK.

it justifiies ur indignation IN YOUR OPINION...b/c i haven't read many user's who share ur opinion...sure other gamers also don't like the new warhawk but not for the an@l reason that its not faithful to a 12 year old game. my god, its amazing how an@l some people can be...

Why the hell shouldn't I expect it to be faithful to the original? THEY SAID IT WAS A GODDAMN REMAKE. Up till two months ago, everyone (except you, apparently) expected it play like the original. There was even an uproar last year when they said they were including ground missions, and that was a big reason why the hype for this game mostly vanished until they said it was going to be multiplayer-only.

oh yeah, because game developers need to consult with you before making design changes. and show me the quote where they said it was going to be a remake. big freaking deal, so the developer changed their mind. and for good reason too, b/c beta testers thought single player s*cked. but if u really, really want to play the original warhawk, i'm sure u can buy it for $5-10 on ebay and play it on ur ps3. problem solved.
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#52 black2burn
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you guys need to calm down.... it doesn't freakin matter. warhawk, while it may be straying from the original formula it was based on, looks to be shaping up incredibly well. i was never particularly excited about it until these past few weeks when they've released the multiplayer movies. as for drawing comparisons to a battlefield game, i think that's a waste of time. warhawk is proving to be an incredibly unique game that the ps3 lovers are gonna eat up (in a good way)
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#53 magus-21
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oh yeah, because game developers need to consult with you before making design changes.xuimod
No, they just need to know the expectations of the fans of the game they're remaking.
and show me the quote where they said it was going to be a remake.xuimod
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/warhawk/news.html?sid=6166935&mode=press "The long-awaited remake to the PlayStation hit takes flight on the PLAYSTATION3 system." (emphasis mine) Also look at the key features and count how many bullet points have been ticked off. * Pilot the most advanced Fighter in the Fleet – Fly or hover to engage in intense dogfights with hundreds of fighters, massive flying battleships and enemy ground forces. Not anymore. * Fight on Foot, in Ground Vehicles, or in the Sky – Next-gen multimodal design throws players into a deep gameplay experience. Fight in the war as a foot soldier, vehicle driver or ace pilot—whenever you want. * An Epic Level of Ambient Warfare – Players must defend their land and accomplish missions within a massive, fully interactive battlefield of Eucadian and Chernovan forces. Not anymore * Discover a Vast and Unique World – Hundreds of square miles of high-resolution terrain filled with a brave new world where old and new technologies merge. Not anymore * An Epic Storyline of Heroism – Charismatic characters and powerful armies clash in a gripping saga of discovery and survival. Not anymore * Experience an Expansive Online Community – Players can join in epic multi-modal 32-person online battles, constantly evolving with downloadable content and a variety of online game modes.
big freaking deal, so the developer changed their mind. and for good reason too, b/c beta testers thought single player s*cked. but if u really, really want to play the original warhawk, i'm sure u can buy it for $5-10 on ebay and play it on ur ps3. problem solved. xuimod
The single player probably sucked because of the addition of ground combat. That's the only explanation I can think of, because the single player for the original Warhawk was kick-ass. I don't know of a single flight game where the addition of ground combat helped its single player campaign, and Warhawk is no exception. If they had focused on the flying rather than adding the encumbrance of ground combat, Warhawk would've had a kickass single player campaign.
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#54 SkyCastleDan
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HOLY MOTHER OF GOD SHUT UP ALREADY! If you want to have a battle like this please do so over the private message system. No need to continue filling this thread up with childish ranting.

The bottomline is, this game is going to be fantastic and it shows in the video footage supplied by 1 up and other sites. And yeah, if you only want to fly, you can set it up that way so stop crying. This game is getting some serious attention and quite frankly, despite some minority's random opinions, it would seem as though it already is starting to grow a reputation of greatness with the media sources covering it. I'm hyped about it and you should be too.

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#55 SkyCastleDan
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big freaking deal, so the developer changed their mind. and for good reason too, b/c beta testers thought single player s*cked. but if u really, really want to play the original warhawk, i'm sure u can buy it for $5-10 on ebay and play it on ur ps3. problem solved. xuimod
The single player probably sucked because of the addition of ground combat. That's the only explanation I can think of, because the single player for the original Warhawk was kick-ass. I don't know of a single flight game where the addition of ground combat helped its single player campaign, and Warhawk is no exception. If they had focused on the flying rather than adding the encumbrance of ground combat, Warhawk would've had a kickass single player campaign.magus-21

1up explained that they took it out because a) it just wasn't as much fun as the online multiplayer and b) you didn't have the true experience of all the possible dynamics taking place in the single player. You didn't have the thrill of having Warhawks bombing from the air while soldiers battle it out like mad with tanks coming around the corner to blow the hell out of everything. It just wasn't the same and you didn't get the whole experience with the A.I. playing and not people from around the world. Personally, for those reasons, I agree with Incognito for taking the single player out.

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#57 SkyCastleDan
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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"]oh yeah, because game developers need to consult with you before making design changes.xuimod
No, they just need to know the expectations of the fans of the game they're remaking.

oh boohoo, cry to someone who cares....because no one in this thread seems to share ur disappointment and pain... btw, where r u getting this stuff (that ur saying 'not anymore' to)? its not in the link u provided.

Dude, take this crap to the Private Message system on you account OK? Not only does no one care about on this thread about his expectations, no one cares about your pathetic arguement. Stop filling this thread with crap and go own this poor soul privately, ok?

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#59 magus-21
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[QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"]oh yeah, because game developers need to consult with you before making design changes.SkyCastleDan

No, they just need to know the expectations of the fans of the game they're remaking.

oh boohoo, cry to someone who cares....because no one in this thread seems to share ur disappointment and pain... btw, where r u getting this stuff (that ur saying 'not anymore' to)? its not in the link u provided.

Dude, take this crap to the Private Message system on you account OK? Not only does no one care about on this thread about his expectations, no one cares about your pathetic arguement. Stop filling this thread with crap and go own this poor soul privately, ok?

Oh STFU. This is a message board for opinions and this is an argument about a game that YOU wanted to talk about in the first place. If you didn't want opposing arguments on your thread, you should've blogged it.
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#60 magus-21
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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"]oh yeah, because game developers need to consult with you before making design changes.xuimod
No, they just need to know the expectations of the fans of the game they're remaking.

oh boohoo, cry to someone who cares....because no one in this thread seems to share ur disappointment and pain... btw, where r u getting this stuff (that ur saying 'not anymore' to)? its not in the link u provided.

It's in the Warhawk company line, which is what I linked to. Go search for "Warhawk" on GameSpot, go to "News & Previews," then go to "Press Releases".
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#61 SkyCastleDan
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[QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

[QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="xuimod"]oh yeah, because game developers need to consult with you before making design changes.magus-21

No, they just need to know the expectations of the fans of the game they're remaking.

oh boohoo, cry to someone who cares....because no one in this thread seems to share ur disappointment and pain... btw, where r u getting this stuff (that ur saying 'not anymore' to)? its not in the link u provided.

Dude, take this crap to the Private Message system on you account OK? Not only does no one care about on this thread about his expectations, no one cares about your pathetic arguement. Stop filling this thread with crap and go own this poor soul privately, ok?

Oh STFU. This is a message board for opinions and this is an argument about a game that YOU wanted to talk about in the first place. If you didn't want opposing arguments on your thread, you should've blogged it.

I wasn't posting this create a childish argument about they should have done. I was posting this to talk about how awesome it is that finally some media sources are really exposing a PS3 game. Atleast up until the point when you guys started posting, that was what the conversation was about. OH well, the more you post on this thread, the quicker my gamespot level goes up! YAY!

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#62 Sully28
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IMO, WarHawk should've kept to solely flying combat. The ground combat only makes it look more...I dunno....average? And it dilutes the appeal of WarHawk in the first place.magus-21
It is confimed that there will be Warkhawk only mode on online, so server have the option to make the game warhawks only. So than its a huge warhawk dog fight.
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#63 UntoldDreams
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Warhawk looks very cool.

As I've never played the original I can't comment about the evolution of it but then again I don't really care what the original was like since I'm not about to go find a PS1 version and play it through.

*** That being said I am not against a BATTLEFIELD type game with powerful planes.  If people are complaining I guess they wanted the game to be another flight sim?

Anyways... This looks like it will be a great fun game.

 

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#64 04JETTA
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ya its good times

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#65 shady_825
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Warhawk looks like a fantastic game, and it gets better every time I see it. I can't imagine the ground combat hurting the game. It actually sounds a lot better than Crimson Skies with 32 players. What's not intense about running around having a shoot-out while planes are launching missles and bombs from hundreds of feet above? This could lead to unprecedented combat situations. I can't wait.