The most glaring flaw of MGS4.

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#1 HummaKavula
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OK, I just decided to make this topic for fun. To be honest, there is very little to complain about MGS4. If it's not the closest as one can come to flawless, I don't know what is.

Sadly, I can only give 5 choices. Well, anyway, vote away, discuss, let's hear your own choices, this will be interesting.

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#2 NuKkU
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i wanted to play as raiden come on ive always wanted to play as one of the ninja's :(
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#3 wicked1992
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After seeing the intro to the new Raiden, I really wanted to play as him. In the old game where you played Raiden it kinda suckd. Maybe this is an opening for a sequal continuing Raiden?
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#4 LuckyLy
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The nanomachines are kind of flawed. They did everything. -_-
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#5 Rza_rectah
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The nanomachines are kind of flawed. They did everything. -_-LuckyLy

everything is a understatement LMAO they killed the nanomachine concept in that game.

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#6 Rza_rectah
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do the patriots in the mgs series remind any one else of the illuminati maybe the illuminati are a bunch of machines in stead of men and hideo is trying to tell us something LOL.
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#7 The_Pig_Hostage
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Yeah, how can you have Ocelot and no revolver? Oh well, he's still badass.
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#8 Bengameaholic
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MGS4 is so technically proficient that it really doesn't have flaws. The game does however contain more video than gameplay which can be a bit hard to swallow. This in itself is its most glaring flaw.

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#9 Swift_Boss_A
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MGS4 is so technically proficient that it really doesn't have flaws. The game does however contain more video than gameplay which can be a bit hard to swallow. This in itself is its most glaring flaw.

Bengameaholic

Well that really depends on how you play, On my 1st playthrough I beat MGS4 in 21 hours without skipping cutscenes, assuming the cutscenes are 8 hours altogether I played MGS4 for 13 hours. Not counting speed run MGS4 definitely has atleast 8-9 hours of gameplay, so its really half way split between gameplay and cutscene. MGS4 is by far the longest MGS in terms of gameplay I would have to say.

Oh and on the poll I would have to choose the fact that you couldn't play as Raiden in MGS4, I would loved to have actually had hands on experience with Raidens ninja skills.

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#10 The_Pig_Hostage
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[QUOTE="Bengameaholic"]

MGS4 is so technically proficient that it really doesn't have flaws. The game does however contain more video than gameplay which can be a bit hard to swallow. This in itself is its most glaring flaw.

Swift_Boss_A

Well that really depends on how you play, On my 1st playthrough I beat MGS4 in 21 hours without skipping cutscenes, assuming the cutscenes are 8 hours altogether I played MGS4 for 13 hours. Not counting speed run MGS4 definitely has atleast 8-9 hours of gameplay, so its really half way split between gameplay and cutscene. MGS4 is by far the longest MGS in terms of gameplay I would have to say.

Hmm, I'd say that honor goes to MGS3. I beat both in about 20 hours, and I'm pretty sure that MGS3 spent far less time on cutscenes... though I could be wrong.

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#11 SollidSnake_
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i wants to raiden's backflips give.. ='(
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#12 chronicman7
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^^ i think MGS3 even had more cutscene time. id have to say the nanomachines. it seemed like that was said every 10 seconds atleast.
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#13 haemorrhagiae
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None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

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#14 Swift_Boss_A
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None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

haemorrhagiae

TC said MGS4, not MGO :|

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#15 vivelaps3
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the moustache man the moustache
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#16 RangersRock30
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the butt =O
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#17 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="haemorrhagiae"]

None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

Swift_Boss_A

TC said MGS4, not MGO :|

MGO is MGS4.

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#18 cap-
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i wanna playas raiden

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#19 FF6fan
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Well Ocelot couldn't carry the SAA because he wasn't "Ocelot" at the time. He was Liquid(well acting like him) and Liquid didn't use the SAA. I'd have to say none of the above.
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#20 pyromaniac223
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Biggest flaw for me was the storytelling method. Pretentious cutscenes, bleh.
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#21 Bubblehash
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I didn't see a flaw in the game.
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#22 Bubblehash
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="haemorrhagiae"]

None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

pyromaniac223

TC said MGS4, not MGO :|

MGO is MGS4.

No it isn't.
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#23 ChocolateCake10
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duuuuuuuuuude the moustache is NOT a flaw. XD :)
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#24 Generic_Dude
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Indestructible mustache? Good sir, with great mustache comes great responsibility!
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#25 StealthKnife
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his buttcrake and not playong as raiden

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#26 moshakirby18
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Don't really care for any of those choices;

*Snake's arse; it's sexy, what's wrong with it?
*No idea what an SAA is
*Indestructable moustache? what?
*What's wrong with nanomachines? It could happen...
*Raiden's still a bummer
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#27 Rakuho
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well i know that this doesn't necessarily has to do with the type of options you have up there, but the biggest flaw are the loading screens which make you press start. I know it's a tachnical thing but it bothered me. Spoiler............... The 2 vehicle riding (stryker, bike) portions would have been much more enjoyable if they were not abruptly cut off every minute or so becasue you were entering the next area. Makes you wonder about the point of multiple installs. Oh and i wanted to play as raiden too; then again you can always get his face camo, lol.
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#28 Rakuho
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pardon some of the spelling errors
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#29 moshakirby18
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People will you stop spelling butt crack as one word and with an e [buttcracke]

I keep reading it as B U K K A K E :/
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#30 sa10kun
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I actually kinda liked the need to press start between screens. Gave me a break to go to the restroom. I just hate the fact that there were so many during the fourth act.

I chose the butt cause it's just so in your face you can't get away with it. It'd be cool if they release some episodes that let you play as raiden in dlc.

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#31 nooblet69
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The buttcrack, man. That was the first thing I noticed and the first thing people noticed when they saw me playing :P.
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#32 sa10kun
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The buttcrack, man. That was the first thing I noticed and the first thing people noticed when they saw me playing :P.nooblet69

Haha isn't it? I everytime I was playing my friends would go "damn, do you stare at that guy's butt for like the whole game?"

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#33 Plague27
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I would have to say that the overdone apple product placement was a big "what the hell" for me. I also thought snake's voice was too groggy (ala batman). The ridiculously unavoidable sexuality in the game as well as the abundance of technical stuff was annoying. Why does a female doctor wear an open shirt with her cleavage hanging everywhere? Why is apple EVERY****INGWHERE????? Why is snake saying stuff like "polymer casing" and crap when he plays with guns, and talking about other trivial things on guns that have nothing to do with what anyone cares about at all, other than to sound overly technical and like he knows what he is doing. I am sorry, but if a guy picks up an m4 and tries to impress me with his knowledge by telling me it is military approved plastic and shoots bullets that kill people, I would laugh in his face. Also, having people explain stuff to him that a person in his position would already know is not only tiresome, but wholly unrealistic and retarded. Find more creative ways of tipping us off, please. Oh, and the nanomachines were really, really retarded. When someone was watching me play, I couldn't explain what was happening when everyone would mope about with that stupid techno pulsy sound crap happening without sounding like a total retard and killing everyone's interest in the game. But at least the game is absolutely badass. Oh, and one more thing, in the beginning, when snake pulls out his ak and it jams..... yeah. That doesn't happen. I smell BS. That killed it for me and all my friends. We have fired thousands of rounds through our ak's in all sorts of environments and never had one ounce of problems with them. I would think someone as technically proficient as the super soldier clone would know how to eject a jammed cartridge from one of the simplest and most reliable firearms ever made this side of the 1903.
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#34 poomonger613
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the fact that the SAA, FAMAS, PSG1, and the Fear's dart gun wasn't in the game bummed me out a bit, great game tho at plague, FYI they explain why the AK jammed in a codec call the militia were using poor quality ammunition and it was also a different caliber the round melted into the chamber
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#35 Randy_Savage
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I know it's a recurring thing and all, but does Otocan have cry and weep everytime someone dies? I mean I can certainly understand Emma in MGS2, but Naomi?

Just because he got a little action from her doesn't mean he has to weep like someone in a lifetime movie when she passes!

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#36 Zaibach
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After seeing the intro to the new Raiden, I really wanted to play as him. In the old game where you played Raiden it kinda suckd. Maybe this is an opening for a sequal continuing Raiden?wicked1992

NINJA RAIDEN!!!8) i'LL BUY IT

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#37 1noteshort
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the butt =ORangersRock30

remember it IS a muscle suit hes in

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Why is snake saying stuff like "polymer casing" and crap when he plays with guns, and talking about other trivial things on guns that have nothing to do with what anyone cares about at all, other than to sound overly technical and like he knows what he is doing. I am sorry, but if a guy picks up an m4 and tries to impress me with his knowledge by telling me it is military approved plastic and shoots bullets that kill people, I would laugh in his face....Oh, and one more thing, in the beginning, when snake pulls out his ak and it jams..... yeah. That doesn't happen. I smell BS. That killed it for me and all my friends.Plague27

have you played mgs3? that by far has the most techy dialogue. especially with sigint, snake would rehash his dialogue in his codec speeches if you werent careful.

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#39 AgentH
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Flaw? keeping Raiden alive.
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#40 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="haemorrhagiae"]

None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

Bubblehash

TC said MGS4, not MGO :|

MGO is MGS4.

No it isn't.

Uh...yeah it is...

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#41 servman88
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Im thinking of buyig it is it worth $60 imean how entertaning is it on a scale of 1-10
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#42 poomonger613
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10 i loled when i first shook my controller when talking to rose
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#43 AgentH
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[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="haemorrhagiae"]

None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

pyromaniac223

TC said MGS4, not MGO :|

MGO is MGS4.

No it isn't.

Uh...yeah it is...

No it's not. MGO is the online mode of MGS4.

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#44 Plague27
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So playing gears of war online isn't playing gears of war? Your logic is flawed.
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#45 Plague27
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I forgot to add- Any time there is a never ending storm of guys that come out of nowhere...... well..... let's just say it feels like games striving for realism have come a little too far to put a broken mechanic like that in.....
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="haemorrhagiae"]

None of the above.

My custom vote goes to laggy online.But I am too addicted to stop playing it.

AgentH

TC said MGS4, not MGO :|

MGO is MGS4.

No it isn't.

Uh...yeah it is...

No it's not. MGO is the online mode of MGS4.

MGO is MGS4 multiplayer,which makes it part of the game. It's not separate at all.

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#47 AgentH
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So playing gears of war online isn't playing gears of war? Your logic is flawed.Plague27

Well MGS is unique for this case. MGS4 = single player and MGO = multiplayer. They are both separated games packed in one disk. MGO uses MGS4's engine.

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#48 pyromaniac223
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The Tdddsa

[QUOTE="Plague27"]So playing gears of war online isn't playing gears of war? Your logic is flawed.AgentH

Well MGS is unique for this case. MGS4 = single player and MGO = multiplayer. They are both separated games packed in one disk. MGO uses MGS4's engine.

No offense, but your logic is terrible. By this logic, playing COD4 singleplayer is different than COD 4 multiplayer. It's the same game.
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#49 BowJester
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I forgot to add- Any time there is a never ending storm of guys that come out of nowhere...... well..... let's just say it feels like games striving for realism have come a little too far to put a broken mechanic like that in.....Plague27

Thank god someone noticed this! Holy hell, I was stuck at this one point where I would snipe like 5 guys and some guy would come around the corner and see me, and then I'd keep killing them all only to have an endless army come running at me.

Oh and why can snake not hold a sniper steady, but holds an automatic as steady as if he doesn't breathe. And I'm talking with a rifle zoom on it, so both are zoomed in alot.

mgs4=mgo, why because when you put in the disc, whether you are on or offline if people look at what game you are playing it is mgs4.

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#50 moshakirby18
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The Tdddsa[QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="Plague27"]So playing gears of war online isn't playing gears of war? Your logic is flawed.pyromaniac223

Well MGS is unique for this case. MGS4 = single player and MGO = multiplayer. They are both separated games packed in one disk. MGO uses MGS4's engine.

No offense, but your logic is terrible. By this logic, playing COD4 singleplayer is different than COD 4 multiplayer. It's the same game.



I think what he's trying to get at is that the gameplay of MGS4 and MGO are so completley different they really shouldn't be considered the same game.
With Gears of War and CoD4 the gameplay is exactly the same and there's not a lot you can do to change that.