The reaction I get of LBP: "What's the point of this game?"

whenever i play this game with non gamers, or people who havent tried it is... usually confusion.

Its always "whats the point of the game".. "what do you do?" ... they cant get why i would play such a kiddy game, and really have no reply. And then we shut it off and play FIFA or a shooter. 

When I do try to explain the community aspect, and how you create and share levels its always pretty embarassing when i show a user created level, and of course they are garbage.. and then again im asked "is this it? you paid $60 for this?"

This game completely failed at its attempt to draw in casual gamers, and its far too shallow and not very user friendly for hardcores. This game has sold so miserably because it doesnt know what it wants to be, and lacks identity.

I'll give it until January, and if nothing is done about it I'll likely sell it for a real game, one that has "a point".

I cant believe IGn gave it a 9.5

whenever i play this game with non gamers, or people who havent tried it is... usually confusion.

Its always "whats the point of the game".. "what do you do?" ... they cant get why i would play such a kiddy game, and really have no reply. And then we shut it off and play FIFA or a shooter. 

When I do try to explain the community aspect, and how you create and share levels its always pretty embarassing when i show a user created level, and of course they are garbage.. and then again im asked "is this it? you paid $60 for this?"

This game completely failed at its attempt to draw in casual gamers, and its far too shallow and not very user friendly for hardcores. This game has sold so miserably because it doesnt know what it wants to be, and lacks identity.

I'll give it until January, and if nothing is done about it I'll likely sell it for a real game, one that has "a point".

I cant believe IGn gave it a 9.5

 

signore

Ok.Scianix-Black

you should get banned, or suspended or something. All you do is post boost, with dumb responses, or your attempt at humour. You contribute basically nothing to any thread you post in.. dont you have anything better than to post in EVERY single thread with some poor attempt at a witty response?

well, Sony seems to think that LittleBigPlanets eventual sales will be driven by word of mouth. Ive shown this game to a lot of people, and theyve all thought it was pretty uneventful. Just a good looking sega genesis game, but with less controls. I cant believe theres no action, or punch button, or the ability to climb ledges.signore

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]Ok.signore

you should get banned, or suspended or something. All you do is post boost, with dumb responses, or your attempt at humour. You contribute basically nothing to any thread you post in.. dont you have anything better than to post in EVERY single thread with some poor attempt at a witty response?

The point is to make and customize you, and your maps. And play other peoples maps.It has unlimited creativity and imagination, i play it when im tired of shooting peoples heads off in my shooter games.And it has unlimited replayability, you can make new levels or play other peoples levels.Litmin

yeah, thats the tagline i hear "unlimited replayability"

but after you sift through the hundred of "FREE TROPHIES" or some song level (who wants to "play" a level with someone recreating a song?).. youre left with very empty levels, usually something that has a rocket or ramp. Unless im the unlucky one who is always randomly left with these levels, im not seeing anything near "unlimited replayability".

Signore why can't you just respect our opinions rather than getting upset? MusashiSensi

i respect your opinion, youre actually one of the guys on this forum i respect the most. But that other guy posts in every thread, with never anything related to the topic. Its not like you get a piece of cake for the amount of posts you have

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Signore why can't you just respect our opinions rather than getting upset? signore

i respect your opinion, youre actually one of the guys on this forum i respect the most. But that other guy posts in every thread, with never anything related to the topic. Its not like you get a piece of cake for the amount of posts you have

[QUOTE="signore"]well, Sony seems to think that LittleBigPlanets eventual sales will be driven by word of mouth. Ive shown this game to a lot of people, and theyve all thought it was pretty uneventful. Just a good looking sega genesis game, but with less controls. I cant believe theres no action, or punch button, or the ability to climb ledges.americahellyeah

yeah, but games have evolved since then.. how can you compare LBP to a full fledged platformer like Prince of Persia, or Ratchet and Clank, in the eyes of consumers?

My thread was in response to Sony assuring everybody that LBP sales will skyrocket due to word of mouth, which i think can only hurt this game. At $39.99, this game wouldve been far more appealing and realistically priced

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Signore why can't you just respect our opinions rather than getting upset? signore

i respect your opinion, youre actually one of the guys Thanks, Sig. Just don't want this to esculate into a back and forth argument betweehn you &  someone else. on this forum i respect the most. But that other guy posts in every thread, with never anything related to the topic. Its not like you get a piece of cake for the amount of posts you have

 Thanks, Signore. Just don't want this to escalate into a back and forth argument between you &  someone else.

your not really left to play those music levels or free trophy levels, there are other creative levels online. No one is forcing you to play the trophy and music levels =Pcsadhoo

yeah, but any time i select 'cool' levels, or pick from one of the tags (brilliant, fun etc..) im always left with 75% of the levels being music/trophy/ramp. They need to make a way where you can sort by amount played or hearted

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Signore why can't you just respect our opinions rather than getting upset? signore

i respect your opinion, youre actually one of the guys on this forum i respect the most. But that other guy posts in every thread, with never anything related to the topic. Its not like you get a piece of cake for the amount of posts you have

Its actually £21.98 in some places, i think this is realistically priced, dont you?

[QUOTE="signore"]

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Signore why can't you just respect our opinions rather than getting upset? Scianix-Black

i respect your opinion, youre actually one of the guys on this forum i respect the most. But that other guy posts in every thread, with never anything related to the topic. Its not like you get a piece of cake for the amount of posts you have

Alright, alright. I'm just sayin'.

I'll sit this one out.

...unless someone says something interesting, of course.

its a full priced game here (north america). It really shouldve been budget price, especially since most of the games replay value is supposed to come from user created content, and not from the actual games developers.

Just like GTA4, this game seems to have been far less received by gamers than by the critics. Ive seen a lot of forums on a lot sites about people unhappy with the small amount of content, and claiming theyre gonna sell it.

Normally, sales dont equal a good game.. but this one relies on a big quality and health community, otherwise were just left with the small amount of story levels and a bucket load of trophy/gimmick levels

[QUOTE="Litmin"]The point is to make and customize you, and your maps. And play other peoples maps.It has unlimited creativity and imagination, i play it when im tired of shooting peoples heads off in my shooter games.And it has unlimited replayability, you can make new levels or play other peoples levels.signore

yeah, thats the tagline i hear "unlimited replayability"

but after you sift through the hundred of "FREE TROPHIES" or some song level (who wants to "play" a level with someone recreating a song?).. youre left with very empty levels, usually something that has a rocket or ramp. Unless im the unlucky one who is always randomly left with these levels, im not seeing anything near "unlimited replayability".

its a full priced game here (north america). It really shouldve been budget price, especially since most of the games replay value is supposed to come from user created content, and not from the actual games developers.

Just like GTA4, this game seems to have been far less received by gamers than by the critics. Ive seen a lot of forums on a lot sites about people unhappy with the small amount of content, and claiming theyre gonna sell it.

Normally, sales dont equal a good game.. but this one relies on a big quality and health community, otherwise were just left with the small amount of story levels and a bucket load of trophy/gimmick levels

signore

Have fun saying it completely failed... My friends thought they'd hate the game but they actually love it so much!

Try looking at other people's hearted levels (which is really easy to do), some of them are really cool. But maybe you just don't like platformers... If that's the case why don't you take a chill pill and stop talking about it.

Signore, how many topic have you created about how much you despise LBP?? Cuz I'm pretty sure this is not the first one.

Anyway, look buddy, I know the hype sometimes gets us and the hype for this game was totally insane, so yeah you probably bought that and fell for it, and the result was that you didn't like it as much as you probably thought.

Now I could just end this by saying it was your fault for falling for the hype, but I won't.

I just want to say that there are different kind of games because there are different kind of people. ****, I keep laughing every time I see stupid games for one of the rival consoles (not the usual one... the other one) because IMO those are really lame attempts for a game. But maybe I fail to see that probably there's people buying those games and that's why they create them.

Now, LBP is not the 8th wonder of this world, I agree. But dissing this game is like dissing Super Mario Bros, and I had A LOT of fun with that game back then.

Have fun saying it completely failed... My friends thought they'd hate the game but they actually love it so much!

Try looking at other people's hearted levels (which is really easy to do), some of them are really cool. But maybe you just don't like platformers... If that's the case why don't you take a chill pill and stop talking about it.

bloodling

I actually loved the story levels, i just wish there were a lot more to play. I know im nagging, but im pretty careful with which games ive gotten and i feel ive been burned for $60 on this one. Its fun to play with friends, but the few ones that actually enjoy it would rather play my other games. 

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="signore"]well, Sony seems to think that LittleBigPlanets eventual sales will be driven by word of mouth. Ive shown this game to a lot of people, and theyve all thought it was pretty uneventful. Just a good looking sega genesis game, but with less controls. I cant believe theres no action, or punch button, or the ability to climb ledges.signore

yeah, but games have evolved since then.. how can you compare LBP to a full fledged platformer like Prince of Persia, or Ratchet and Clank, in the eyes of consumers?

My thread was in response to Sony assuring everybody that LBP sales will skyrocket due to word of mouth, which i think can only hurt this game. At $39.99, this game wouldve been far more appealing and realistically priced

Signore, how many topic have you created about how much you despise LBP?? Cuz I'm pretty sure this is not the first one.

Anyway, look buddy, I know the hype sometimes gets us and the hype for this game was totally insane, so yeah you probably bought that and fell for it, and the result was that you didn't like it as much as you probably thought.

Now I could just end this by saying it was your fault for falling for the hype, but I won't.

I just want to say that there are different kind of games because there are different kind of people. ****, I keep laughing every time I see stupid games for one of the rival consoles (not the usual one... the other one) because IMO those are really lame attempts for a game. But maybe I fail to see that probably there's people buying those games and that's why they create them.

Now, LBP is not the 8th wonder of this world, I agree. But dissing this game is like dissing Super Mario Bros, and I had A LOT of fun with that game back then.

GreenGoblin2099

A sensible man has emerged on the PS3 forums - I never thought I'd see the day. I completely agree with the OP. It averaged 95% at Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/littlebigplanet?q=LittleBigPlanet

Most of the reviews gave it 100%. What a grand achievement for Media Molecule. They put together a bunch of content which relies heavily on YOU the gamer to turn it into levels. At best you move a puppet from the left side of the screen to the right - or for intense diversity you can move it from the bottom to the top. Bravo Media Molecule - truly ground breaking stuff here, worthy of 100% - 10/10 for you champ. I honestly dont know why companies like Bethesda actually make a game and a story. They should just release the construction kit from day one and make the gamers create the levels. No need for a story, no need for any kind of 'hook' to keep you coming back. Hype is great for a lot of stuff, it sold LBP to a bunch of people who actually believed the reviews. I have no doubt that playing with friends is what makes LBP such a blast - its a shame that the critics and reviewers didnt base their scores on the game from a single players perspective instead of how much 'potential' this game 'could' have with exactly the right mix of friends and creativity.

LBP does it for some. Apparently you fall in the other category.

Everyone is entitled to it's own opinion, but saying the game is garbage is lying. Lots of people liked and I don't think they are lying.

LBP if just for PURE FUN (if you like the game that is). There is no need for an actual objective to have fun. In LBP you just jump around seeing what other people did, some are good and some are freaking bad.

It's a different type of fun most of us isn't used too, but it's fun nonetheless.

Fanboys will always be fanboys, that said, the TC is pretty much right.

There's no point in shelling out 70 euros for this game. 

whenever i play this game with non gamers, or people who havent tried it is... usually confusion.

Its always "whats the point of the game".. "what do you do?" ... they cant get why i would play such a kiddy game, and really have no reply. And then we shut it off and play FIFA or a shooter.

When I do try to explain the community aspect, and how you create and share levels its always pretty embarassing when i show a user created level, and of course they are garbage.. and then again im asked "is this it? you paid $60 for this?"

This game completely failed at its attempt to draw in casual gamers, and its far too shallow and not very user friendly for hardcores. This game has sold so miserably because it doesnt know what it wants to be, and lacks identity.

I'll give it until January, and if nothing is done about it I'll likely sell it for a real game, one that has "a point".

I cant believe IGn gave it a 9.5

signore

I get that reaction alot too. Just today my cousins were over from Thanksgiving and we went Black Friday shopping together (not the best of times). Looked to pick up some games at Gamestop (buy 2 get 1 free) and I got LBP, R2, and Dead Space. My cousin was so hyped for the other 2 but he was like forcing me to get Far Cry or Fallout instead of LBP. I couldn't fully explain to him what was so good about the game or the point of it, or maybe he just didn't understand.

I guess the point of the story is taste. The point of the game is enjoyment. If you don't like it, return it or just don't buy it. But don't let your opinons be swayed by other people. If you enjoy the game, live it up. And I don't know how they could change the game from what it is, so I suggest trading it in now and get a game you like.

A sensible man has emerged on the PS3 forums - I never thought I'd see the day. I completely agree with the OP. It averaged 95% at Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/littlebigplanet?q=LittleBigPlanet

Most of the reviews gave it 100%. What a grand achievement for Media Molecule. They put together a bunch of content which relies heavily on YOU the gamer to turn it into levels. At best you move a puppet from the left side of the screen to the right - or for intense diversity you can move it from the bottom to the top. Bravo Media Molecule - truly ground breaking stuff here, worthy of 100% - 10/10 for you champ. I honestly dont know why companies like Bethesda actually make a game and a story. They should just release the construction kit from day one and make the gamers create the levels. No need for a story, no need for any kind of 'hook' to keep you coming back. Hype is great for a lot of stuff, it sold LBP to a bunch of people who actually believed the reviews. I have no doubt that playing with friends is what makes LBP such a blast - its a shame that the critics and reviewers didnt base their scores on the game from a single players perspective instead of how much 'potential' this game 'could' have with exactly the right mix of friends and creativity.

Torpian

haha, were on the same page,, but you seem to despise this one a lot more than me. I actually like LBP, but its just far too little content to justify a price tag the same as MGS4, Gears2, GTA4 or most other great games. Warhawk, Socom, GT5P are good/great games, but are priced just right considering there lack of content, and LBP fits into this category. A lot of reviewers commented that they WANTED this game to succeed because it was good for gamers, i disagree. It just promotes developers to scrap together a half@$$ amount of content, and give you the tools to make more. Considering the amount of time this game was in development, there shouldve been at least 100 story levels, and at least 70 full fledged levels, and not just challenge ones (which i like, but shouldnt be considered 'levels'). My gf, who hates video games,  actually liked this game,,, but even in the limited time weve played (she cant stand playing too long), shes already grown tired of whats on show. 

If the weekly DLC is a good indication, any future levels provided by MM will come at a hefty cost, probably $7 a pop

[QUOTE="signore"]

whenever i play this game with non gamers, or people who havent tried it is... usually confusion.

Its always "whats the point of the game".. "what do you do?" ... they cant get why i would play such a kiddy game, and really have no reply. And then we shut it off and play FIFA or a shooter.

When I do try to explain the community aspect, and how you create and share levels its always pretty embarassing when i show a user created level, and of course they are garbage.. and then again im asked "is this it? you paid $60 for this?"

This game completely failed at its attempt to draw in casual gamers, and its far too shallow and not very user friendly for hardcores. This game has sold so miserably because it doesnt know what it wants to be, and lacks identity.

I'll give it until January, and if nothing is done about it I'll likely sell it for a real game, one that has "a point".

I cant believe IGn gave it a 9.5

 

blazndragon0

Curious, you are preaching the "don't let your opinions be swayed by other people" word, yet, if this game hadn't been extremelly hypped by Sony, which consequently influenced peoples opinion by advertising and making a huge ruckus of this game no one would have cared about it. So, really, tell me, who's opinions are being swayed?

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]Ok.signore

you should get banned, or suspended or something. All you do is post boost, with dumb responses, or your attempt at humour. You contribute basically nothing to any thread you post in.. dont you have anything better than to post in EVERY single thread with some poor attempt at a witty response?

Alright, alright. I'm just sayin'.

I'll sit this one out.

...unless someone says something interesting, of course.

simply put I dont see this as a $60 game. I enjoyed it somewhat when I brought it but as I was playing I was just like eh ok I just paid $60 dollars for this... I mean I had lots of fun trying out peoples maps and stuff but with a game like this it has to be flawless for me out the box...

Ok being that it is basically a scroller I figured lag would not be an issue and OMG it is so much of a lagger at times. Then I thought they would have voices on it now this is just one of my things in games if you do not have voices in a game I really get upset cause I am like come on unless your nintendo u need voices in the game. Now for user created games I understand but for the games MM makes they could have done voices. 

Now for the people saying it is good for community talks and everything... sure I guess but I am hoping Home will give us that type of feel you know...  

I will get this game this summer coming up cause by that time it will be cheap and plenty of levels will be out, but as for now I just traded it in...

It is a great game and all but it is not for everyone, and NO I am not a FPS hog or anything... I love action adventure games and all types of others also except real time strategy games or role playing games...

Games I am waiting for:

Tekken, Resident Evil, God of War, Gran Turismo 5, and (shenmue 3... :cry: )

I get that reaction alot too. Just today my cousins were over from Thanksgiving and we went Black Friday shopping together (not the best of times). Looked to pick up some games at Gamestop (buy 2 get 1 free) and I got LBP, R2, and Dead Space. My cousin was so hyped for the other 2 but he was like forcing me to get Far Cry or Fallout instead of LBP. I couldn't fully explain to him what was so good about the game or the point of it, or maybe he just didn't understand.

I guess the point of the story is taste. The point of the game is enjoyment. If you don't like it, return it or just don't buy it. But don't let your opinons be swayed by other people. If you enjoy the game, live it up. And I don't know how they could change the game from what it is, so I suggest trading it in now and get a game you like.

Im worried about selling this game. If it does take off and sells well (i doubt it, with all the other more appealing titles these days)... it may get a lot of attention from gamers/Media Molecule and we MAY see some quality new content pumped out. As it stands, i havent played one, not one, user created level that was anywhere near as good as the story modes. Sure, some of them were ambitious (Libidius), or creative (calculator), but most of these just arent FUN to play. And isnt fun what this games supposed to be all about? I was looking forward to some MGS/Megaman or other games being recreated, but that was squashed. funny how Media Molecule/sony didnt say before release that any copyrighted stuff would be banned, wouldve made sales even worse

Fine, fine. I'll get crackin' on those lvl ideas i have. Hopefully they'll live up to your standards. :D

Must... pull... self.. away from... CoD...

[QUOTE="signore"]

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]Ok.The_Rick_14

you should get banned, or suspended or something. All you do is post boost, with dumb responses, or your attempt at humour. You contribute basically nothing to any thread you post in.. dont you have anything better than to post in EVERY single thread with some poor attempt at a witty response?

Yeah, see? Just returning the favor was all. :P

I haven't played the game myself, but I'm sure it's great.

And even if it wasn't, you better believe that I'd be trying to get my $60 worth, rather than complaining about it and have it go to waste.

But hey, he's entitled to his opinion.

whenever i play this game with non gamers, or people who havent tried it is... usually confusion.

Its always "whats the point of the game".. "what do you do?" ... they cant get why i would play such a kiddy game, and really have no reply. And then we shut it off and play FIFA or a shooter. 

When I do try to explain the community aspect, and how you create and share levels its always pretty embarassing when i show a user created level, and of course they are garbage.. and then again im asked "is this it? you paid $60 for this?"

This game completely failed at its attempt to draw in casual gamers, and its far too shallow and not very user friendly for hardcores. This game has sold so miserably because it doesnt know what it wants to be, and lacks identity.

I'll give it until January, and if nothing is done about it I'll likely sell it for a real game, one that has "a point".

I cant believe IGn gave it a 9.5

 

signore

You gave into others opinions .. you have let them influence you on your take of a game .. they've made you second guess your purchase, when really you shouldn't have ..

It hasn't failed to pull in casual gamers .. because thousands of casual gamers have been sucked in .. just because your friends haven't, doesn't mean others haven't .. you and your friends aren't the only people on this planet ..

I don't personally like the game .. but the game has brought back, the old love of video games .. whether you like it or not ..

Oh and Signore .. what do you like?  Anything?

 

signore

I get that reaction alot too. Just today my cousins were over from Thanksgiving and we went Black Friday shopping together (not the best of times). Looked to pick up some games at Gamestop (buy 2 get 1 free) and I got LBP, R2, and Dead Space. My cousin was so hyped for the other 2 but he was like forcing me to get Far Cry or Fallout instead of LBP. I couldn't fully explain to him what was so good about the game or the point of it, or maybe he just didn't understand.

I guess the point of the story is taste. The point of the game is enjoyment. If you don't like it, return it or just don't buy it. But don't let your opinons be swayed by other people. If you enjoy the game, live it up. And I don't know how they could change the game from what it is, so I suggest trading it in now and get a game you like.

Im worried about selling this game. If it does take off and sells well (i doubt it, with all the other more appealing titles these days)... it may get a lot of attention from gamers/Media Molecule and we MAY see some quality new content pumped out. As it stands, i havent played one, not one, user created level that was anywhere near as good as the story modes. Sure, some of them were ambitious (Libidius), or creative (calculator), but most of these just arent FUN to play. And isnt fun what this games supposed to be all about? I was looking forward to some MGS/Megaman or other games being recreated, but that was squashed. funny how Media Molecule/sony didnt say before release that any copyrighted stuff would be banned, wouldve made sales even worse

I disagree.... LBP is a great change of pace compared to your typical 1st person shooter or GTA hack and slash.  It seems like there are so many derivatives of games and really nothing new out there.  It's fresh, fun and there is a community 'networking' aspect to it. 

As for the Sega point - I'd like to see LBP be able to be run on my old Genesis CD.  And so what if the controls and game play is too "basic"... really.. who cares....  

I think it should boil down to a simple question:  do you like the game or not? If you don't like it for those reasons, I totally respect your opinion.  If its because your friends don't like it then I guess its your choice to get rid of it.