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#1 Acidrain1988
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Has anyone thought this is sonys business plan?

Every time a ps3 is sold, sony loses money, so more ps3s = more loss, the way they plan to make up for this is they make profit from games, controllers, and accesories, also with sony they hope to get a profit from blu-ray and there own Hi-Def TVs.

Now, It drives me nuts when ppl think that sony is some rag-a-muffin company that dosnt know whats going on, I think they know exactly whats going on.

Does any one else think they new it was not going to sell as fast as say the ps2 did and thats exactly how the wanted it, If they would have sold 6 million in the first 6 months and with no big game selection or blu-ray selection..... that would be lost profits...

I think this is sonys plan to keep the sales at a managable rate while the game selection is low, Sony has already said the ps3 is somthing you will want for 10 years, meaning there in for the long haul.

by next year the production costs of the ps3 will go down, combine that with a large game selection and sony will be getting huge profits, and I think that is there plan.

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i just wish ratchet and clank was coming out sooner, thats all i want right now
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Has anyone thought this is sonys business plan?

Every time a ps3 is sold, sony loses money, so more ps3s = more loss, the way they plan to make up for this is they make profit from games, controllers, and accesories, also with sony they hope to get a profit from blu-ray and there own Hi-Def TVs.

Now, It drives me nuts when ppl think that sony is some rag-a-muffin company that dosnt know whats going on, I think they know exactly whats going on.

Does any one else think they new it was not going to sell as fast as say the ps2 did and thats exactly how the wanted it, If they would have sold 6 million in the first 6 months and with no big game selection or blu-ray selection..... that would be lost profits...

I think this is sonys plan to keep the sales at a managable rate while the game selection is low, Sony has already said the ps3 is somthing you will want for 10 years, meaning there in for the long haul.

by next year the production costs of the ps3 will go down, combine that with a large game selection and sony will be getting huge profits, and I think that is there plan.

Acidrain1988

1) First of all, yes, you're not thinking very logically. This topic is posted about way too much and it seems like whoever posts about it is not putting enough thought into it and is assuming that Sony is stupid.

2) The PS2 did not sell very quickly either. The PS3 is selling at more or less the same rate that the PS2 did.

3) Yes, Sony is losing a bit of money on each PS3. However, not selling very many PS3's is a bad picture to send to consumers. It makes consumers think, "Well, the PS3 isn't selling very well. It must not be very good." So, would you rather lose money at the moment from costly production for a very short time, or would you rather lose a ton of money in the long haul because it appears to consumers that the PS3 is a bad product? I think the choice is obvious.

4) If Sony really thought that losing money on the console at the start was a bad thing, they wouldn't have released the PS3 yet. They would have waited for blu-ray diodes to come down in production cost, they would've worked more on the emulator to save money on the emotion chip for PS2 and PS games, and they wouldn't have included a hard drive standard, like their competitors. However, they believed that having a strong product would help them a ton in the long run and they were willing to take a hit initially so they can make a lot more money in the long run.

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#4 deactivated-5e7d3c08ed601
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[QUOTE="Acidrain1988"]

Has anyone thought this is sonys business plan?

Every time a ps3 is sold, sony loses money, so more ps3s = more loss, the way they plan to make up for this is they make profit from games, controllers, and accesories, also with sony they hope to get a profit from blu-ray and there own Hi-Def TVs.

Now, It drives me nuts when ppl think that sony is some rag-a-muffin company that dosnt know whats going on, I think they know exactly whats going on.

Does any one else think they new it was not going to sell as fast as say the ps2 did and thats exactly how the wanted it, If they would have sold 6 million in the first 6 months and with no big game selection or blu-ray selection..... that would be lost profits...

I think this is sonys plan to keep the sales at a managable rate while the game selection is low, Sony has already said the ps3 is somthing you will want for 10 years, meaning there in for the long haul.

by next year the production costs of the ps3 will go down, combine that with a large game selection and sony will be getting huge profits, and I think that is there plan.

dewmandew7

1) First of all, yes, you're ********, end of discussion.

on my old account, i got modded with that word before, just to tell ya
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#5 Acidrain1988
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[QUOTE="Acidrain1988"]

Has anyone thought this is sonys business plan?

Every time a ps3 is sold, sony loses money, so more ps3s = more loss, the way they plan to make up for this is they make profit from games, controllers, and accesories, also with sony they hope to get a profit from blu-ray and there own Hi-Def TVs.

Now, It drives me nuts when ppl think that sony is some rag-a-muffin company that dosnt know whats going on, I think they know exactly whats going on.

Does any one else think they new it was not going to sell as fast as say the ps2 did and thats exactly how the wanted it, If they would have sold 6 million in the first 6 months and with no big game selection or blu-ray selection..... that would be lost profits...

I think this is sonys plan to keep the sales at a managable rate while the game selection is low, Sony has already said the ps3 is somthing you will want for 10 years, meaning there in for the long haul.

by next year the production costs of the ps3 will go down, combine that with a large game selection and sony will be getting huge profits, and I think that is there plan.

dewmandew7

1) First of all, yes, you're not thinking very logically. This topic is posted about way too much and it seems like whoever posts about it is not putting enough thought into it and is assuming that Sony is stupid.

2) The PS2 did not sell very quickly either. The PS3 is selling at more or less the same rate that the PS2 did.

3) Yes, Sony is losing a bit of money on each PS3. However, not selling very many PS3's is a bad picture to send to consumers. It makes consumers think, "Well, the PS3 isn't selling very well. It must not be very good." So, would you rather lose money at the moment from costly production for a very short time, or would you rather lose a ton of money in the long haul because it appears to consumers that the PS3 is a bad product? I think the choice is obvious.

4) If Sony really thought that losing money on the console at the start was a bad thing, they wouldn't have released the PS3 yet. They would have waited for blu-ray diodes to come down in production cost, they would've worked more on the emulator to save money on the emotion chip for PS2 and PS games, and they wouldn't have included a hard drive standard, like their competitors. However, they believed that having a strong product would help them a ton in the long run and they were willing to take a hit initially so they can make a lot more money in the long run.

I dont think you read my post, but ok

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Well this is the reason they had their recent price drop, because they are now trying to sell out all of their remaining 60gb systems that still have the emotion engine which cos sony quite a bit of money for every console. So from now on all their consoles they make after all the 60gb sell will be 80gb and will not have the emotion engine but instead go the same way that the xbox 360 does in using software emulation. The reason they did this is obviously to cut the price down. I also know for a fact as time goes on the cost to make PS3's is going down. The xbox 360 also is losing money on there console sales, just not as much. So obviosly sony knows what they are doing and by doing much research and planning ahead for the future they knew that in the long run their console will have the power to last. Within a couple of years if the PS3 is as succesful as the ps2 it will not only cost much less to make but the price will probably be reduced 50% like the PS2.
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well, they dont have 10 years at this rate....so that is the problem...and it looks like lair isnt going to ANYWHERE as good as they say, and people are dissapointed heavenly sword doest have platforming elements, and unless youre a hopeless fanboy you KNOW killzone 2 will suck...so....whatever.....i have a ps3...and 1 game for it...resistance...evertything else i play on 360, and that is their problem....people dont want to pay 500 dollars to play madden, but theyll pay 300, so in 10 years it might be around 150 bucks....
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well, they dont have 10 years at this rate....so that is the problem...and it looks like lair isnt going to ANYWHERE as good as they say, and people are dissapointed heavenly sword doest have platforming elements, and unless youre a hopeless fanboy you KNOW killzone 2 will suck...so....whatever.....i have a ps3...and 1 game for it...resistance...evertything else i play on 360, and that is their problem....people dont want to pay 500 dollars to play madden, but theyll pay 300, so in 10 years it might be around 150 bucks....
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[QUOTE="Acidrain1988"]

Has anyone thought this is sonys business plan?

Every time a ps3 is sold, sony loses money, so more ps3s = more loss, the way they plan to make up for this is they make profit from games, controllers, and accesories, also with sony they hope to get a profit from blu-ray and there own Hi-Def TVs.

Now, It drives me nuts when ppl think that sony is some rag-a-muffin company that dosnt know whats going on, I think they know exactly whats going on.

Does any one else think they new it was not going to sell as fast as say the ps2 did and thats exactly how the wanted it, If they would have sold 6 million in the first 6 months and with no big game selection or blu-ray selection..... that would be lost profits...

I think this is sonys plan to keep the sales at a managable rate while the game selection is low, Sony has already said the ps3 is somthing you will want for 10 years, meaning there in for the long haul.

by next year the production costs of the ps3 will go down, combine that with a large game selection and sony will be getting huge profits, and I think that is there plan.

dewmandew7

1) First of all, yes, you're not thinking very logically. This topic is posted about way too much and it seems like whoever posts about it is not putting enough thought into it and is assuming that Sony is stupid.

2) The PS2 did not sell very quickly either. The PS3 is selling at more or less the same rate that the PS2 did.

3) Yes, Sony is losing a bit of money on each PS3. However, not selling very many PS3's is a bad picture to send to consumers. It makes consumers think, "Well, the PS3 isn't selling very well. It must not be very good." So, would you rather lose money at the moment from costly production for a very short time, or would you rather lose a ton of money in the long haul because it appears to consumers that the PS3 is a bad product? I think the choice is obvious.

4) If Sony really thought that losing money on the console at the start was a bad thing, they wouldn't have released the PS3 yet. They would have waited for blu-ray diodes to come down in production cost, they would've worked more on the emulator to save money on the emotion chip for PS2 and PS games, and they wouldn't have included a hard drive standard, like their competitors. However, they believed that having a strong product would help them a ton in the long run and they were willing to take a hit initially so they can make a lot more money in the long run.

read the post before giving smug answers.

anyway,TC, i don't really think they knew the outcome, but i'm certain they were prepared for loses. it's true that a lot of people thought sony was stupid, it's a natural human response to something they do not fully understand or fail to try and understand. With that opinion aside, i knowvery little, if nothing,about sony's profit range, but something is telling me they're, as a whole company, are gaining incomeno matter how much the PS3s lose them money.This is what i know, no company in their right mind would invest into a questionable product in an all or nothing scenario, that's just impossible. The Ps3 is a fragment of their production, that's whythey can take the hits.Think of MS, have they made a profit from their 360s, 9and i'm talking about the console itself,yet? no. they're in the sameboat. If the PS3 was sony's only product then they would have to desperately rely on accessories for profits, so in that case yes you're right. but they make plenty more on other stuff, including the PS2, so i think they're doing just fine with the Ps3.

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in short, i agree, with all of your number crunching aside
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Sony knows what they're doing and yes, the PS3 is for the long run... this is a marathon NOT a sprint race and the competitors will feel this impact further down the track
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sony = :]

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Has anyone thought this is sonys business plan?

Every time a ps3 is sold, sony loses money, so more ps3s = more loss, the way they plan to make up for this is they make profit from games, controllers, and accesories, also with sony they hope to get a profit from blu-ray and there own Hi-Def TVs.

Now, It drives me nuts when ppl think that sony is some rag-a-muffin company that dosnt know whats going on, I think they know exactly whats going on.

Does any one else think they new it was not going to sell as fast as say the ps2 did and thats exactly how the wanted it, If they would have sold 6 million in the first 6 months and with no big game selection or blu-ray selection..... that would be lost profits...

I think this is sonys plan to keep the sales at a managable rate while the game selection is low, Sony has already said the ps3 is somthing you will want for 10 years, meaning there in for the long haul.

by next year the production costs of the ps3 will go down, combine that with a large game selection and sony will be getting huge profits, and I think that is there plan.

Acidrain1988

i have thought this...

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well, they dont have 10 years at this rate....so that is the problem...and it looks like lair isnt going to ANYWHERE as good as they say, and people are dissapointed heavenly sword doest have platforming elements, and unless youre a hopeless fanboy you KNOW killzone 2 will suck...so....whatever.....i have a ps3...and 1 game for it...resistance...evertything else i play on 360, and that is their problem....people dont want to pay 500 dollars to play madden, but theyll pay 300, so in 10 years it might be around 150 bucks....kambion313

first of all have you played lair no you haven't you assume it sucks because of a dumb review floating around the internet, second heavenly sword is a good game all I hear from people is how good it looks and plays, killzone 2 isn't even out yet so dont't judge, i'll admit the first one sucked but have you played the second one no!! you haven't, have I no but I'm not saying its good or bad lets wait until its out ok and I don't think you own a ps3.