Trophies Should Add Up

[QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

K1LLR3175

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="Duckman5"]I would rather have a point system like the 360.edthetinker

Besides being innacurate and selfish ("Icould care less for either of them") your argument is sexist. My fiance does not have a "virtual wang-a-lang," and she likes her trophies. I enjoy talking to you Mr. Nephilim83, but your scope in approaching this question is far to narrow.

In response to the TC... I like both systems, but there is something about seeing a platinum (maybe it's societies obsession with precious metals) that revs me up more than seeing 1000 points.

I"ve never been interested in trophies or achivments but if they but them in points you'll see the 360 fanboys saying that they copied that from the xbox just see

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[QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

Bow-T_88

It's got nothing to do with owning "shares". Where does that even come from?

Devs can get lazy and create crap. "But as long as there's trophies!", it's ok? I would rather have good games to play with no lazy devs resorting to poor band aid solutions.

i think they are fine

[QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

NaughtyRag

If that's the case. Relatively, every form of entertainment is a waste of time.

How is it adding more fun? People get frustrated and treat it like a job. Like it's something they have to do or they'll die. What exactly is "competitive" about this? You only "compete" when you play against each other. It's almost as if "how did gaming ever get by prior to this??"

People should be playing the game, for the game. To enjoy the game. It's an art. But people want someone to dangle shiny keys beside this "art" so they can keep their attention spans. "You did good! You should be proud of yourself! Here's a sticker!" and they jump and drool with glee. Because they've actually accomplished in life.:roll:

Nothing says "I'm a man!" like getting a Platinum trophy.

I rest my case.

Just a question ... After you get a platinum does it make a special something?? I dunno a drum roll or a crowd cheer lol ... anything? or is it the same old ding that we hear everytime we score a trophy?gedo

I disagree with everyone saying it adds no replay value. It does, and I love it. It puts a competitive edge on games that otherwise wouldn't have one. I seem to be in constant competition with my room mate over trophies, who can platnium a game first, beat something on Crushing difficulty, etc. It may not add more to games with a strong multiplayer component, but for single player games that I would normally beat once and then shelve, it adds a lot.SantaTerb

[QUOTE="Bow-T_88"][QUOTE[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]Exactly. They don't add replay value, they bring more bad then good, thanks to trophies bad games with easy trophies sometimes sell more or get more spotlight than good games with no trophies at all.

Denji

It's got nothing to do with owning "shares". Where does that even come from?

Devs can get lazy and create crap. "But as long as there's trophies!", it's ok? I would rather have good games to play with no lazy devs resorting to poor band aid solutions.

I liek how it is now. Rather than it just adding up ( which it does, because you have a total trophy count. )

I like how it adds up to a level.

Any One Else Think That The Trophies Should Have Some Type Of Point System, Or Do You Like It The Way It Is, Speak On It

phoenix1122

[QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

K1LLR3175

thank god people agree with this, allthough i am addicted to trophies, it does take away from playing great games! case and point being metal gear solid 4 and heavonly sword!

trophies can also have there slight advantages to them as well, it can bring a a bit of replay value as it is something to look forward to.

besides replay it can also seperate the hardcore gamers from the ones who just want to make themselves look good cause they just got a bunch or just dont care.

one final thing, they give people a sence of acomplishment, despide how much its not worth.

final conclusion, its both good and bad, but still pointless none the less and its simply used for marketing to scam trophy whores lol

I like trophies. They add to the replay value for me. They dont make me NOT like games, so its w/e :P

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]

[QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

truthbetold101

thank god people agree with this, allthough i am addicted to trophies, it does take away from playing great games! case and point being metal gear solid 4 and heavonly sword!

trophies can also have there slight advantages to them as well, it can bring a a bit of replay value as it is something to look forward to.

besides replay it can also seperate the hardcore gamers from the ones who just want to make themselves look good cause they just got a bunch or just dont care.

one final thing, they give people a sence of acomplishment, despide how much its not worth.

final conclusion, its both good and bad, but still pointless none the less and its simply used for marketing to scam trophy whores lol

Great post.

I like trophies because they give you goals to complete, but I really do not think that they really can tell you how good a gamer really is. Even with the argument of looking only at golds or platinums, you can not tell because there some games like Hannah Montana, Alone in the Dark, etc that have extremely easy gold and platinum trophies. In fact, the upcoming Terminator game only has gold trophies (no bronze or silver)that are mostly earned by just playing through the game. There is a sight for the XBOX called TrueAchievements.com that actually breaks down the trophies by their actual difficulty and assigns a weighted number that can really tell you how good of a gamer you are. I imagine that there will be a PS3 site like that in the future so that people who play games with difficult bronze trophies will be ranked higher than those with a bunch of simple platinums.

I quite like it the way it is. I like the way the trophies are broken down into bronze, silver, gold and platinum.cheezy909

I think the trophies should have some sort of pt system that you use the points you get to purchase extra costumes and add ons and stuff for games that support trophies. For example, If you unlock 1 gold you unlock a bonus level or something.

[QUOTE="NaughtyRag"][QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

Denji

If that's the case. Relatively, every form of entertainment is a waste of time.

How is it adding more fun? People get frustrated and treat it like a job. Like it's something they have to do or they'll die. What exactly is "competitive" about this? You only "compete" when you play against each other. It's almost as if "how did gaming ever get by prior to this??"

People should be playing the game, for the game. To enjoy the game. It's an art. But people want someone to dangle shiny keys beside this "art" so they can keep their attention spans. "You did good! You should be proud of yourself! Here's a sticker!" and they jump and drool with glee. Because they've actually accomplished in life.:roll:

Nothing says "I'm a man!" like getting a Platinum trophy.

I rest my case.

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]

[QUOTE="Denji"]

Trophies "dumb down" the gaming industry to the fans. You don't gain anything, not even an in game item. Waste of time.

truthbetold101

thank god people agree with this, allthough i am addicted to trophies, it does take away from playing great games! case and point being metal gear solid 4 and heavonly sword!

trophies can also have there slight advantages to them as well, it can bring a a bit of replay value as it is something to look forward to.

besides replay it can also seperate the hardcore gamers from the ones who just want to make themselves look good cause they just got a bunch or just dont care.

one final thing, they give people a sence of acomplishment, despide how much its not worth.

final conclusion, its both good and bad, but still pointless none the less and its simply used for marketing to scam trophy whores lol

1. Trophies add "score" where it may not have existed in a game. Do we want mario, pac-man, space invaders, etc. without high scores?

2. Trophies are not mandatory.

3. Enough people enjoy them that campaigning against them is self-serving / hateful to people who genuinely enjoy them.

4. If you don't like what devs are doing think about the games YOU purchase.

5. Gaming cannot be hardcore..... it can be time intensive, but the idea of a "hardcore" gamer is absurd.

6. "trophy whore" also doesn't make sense, I don't feel like getting moderated but I'm fairly certain if you think about it you will figure out why on your own.

I like trophies the way they are . Only there should be unlockables like a free download or a $5 cheque or something for an unlocked platinum . Of course there's always the dilemma that a platinum isn't a platinum . Compare Hanna Montana to Wipeout HD . Those platina aren't the same value ...but hey, in the end, it's all about selling more games...

I like the level system more than the 360 achievement points, anyways both need some kind of a reward system.

I like the level system as it is.

M0wen10

what does points do that trophies and leveling up doesn't? it shows progress...it shows through gold and platinums your game skills....points...you can just rack up a lot of easy games for points...

[QUOTE="truthbetold101"]

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]Exactly. They don't add replay value, they bring more bad then good, thanks to trophies bad games with easy trophies sometimes sell more or get more spotlight than good games with no trophies at all.

edthetinker

thank god people agree with this, allthough i am addicted to trophies, it does take away from playing great games! case and point being metal gear solid 4 and heavonly sword!

trophies can also have there slight advantages to them as well, it can bring a a bit of replay value as it is something to look forward to.

besides replay it can also seperate the hardcore gamers from the ones who just want to make themselves look good cause they just got a bunch or just dont care.

one final thing, they give people a sence of acomplishment, despide how much its not worth.

final conclusion, its both good and bad, but still pointless none the less and its simply used for marketing to scam trophy whores lol

1. Trophies add "score" where it may not have existed in a game. Do we want mario, pac-man, space invaders, etc. without high scores?

2. Trophies are not mandatory.

3. Enough people enjoy them that campaigning against them is self-serving / hateful to people who genuinely enjoy them.

4. If you don't like what devs are doing think about the games YOU purchase.

5. Gaming cannot be hardcore..... it can be time intensive, but the idea of a "hardcore" gamer is absurd.

6. "trophy whore" also doesn't make sense, I don't feel like getting moderated but I'm fairly certain if you think about it you will figure out why on your own.

he meant trophies aren't mandatory for gamers to achieve them.. they are mandatory for game developers to add them to the game..

[QUOTE="edthetinker"]

[QUOTE="truthbetold101"]

thank god people agree with this, allthough i am addicted to trophies, it does take away from playing great games! case and point being metal gear solid 4 and heavonly sword!

trophies can also have there slight advantages to them as well, it can bring a a bit of replay value as it is something to look forward to.

besides replay it can also seperate the hardcore gamers from the ones who just want to make themselves look good cause they just got a bunch or just dont care.

one final thing, they give people a sence of acomplishment, despide how much its not worth.

final conclusion, its both good and bad, but still pointless none the less and its simply used for marketing to scam trophy whores lol

jsmoke03

1. Trophies add "score" where it may not have existed in a game. Do we want mario, pac-man, space invaders, etc. without high scores?

2. Trophies are not mandatory.

3. Enough people enjoy them that campaigning against them is self-serving / hateful to people who genuinely enjoy them.

4. If you don't like what devs are doing think about the games YOU purchase.

5. Gaming cannot be hardcore..... it can be time intensive, but the idea of a "hardcore" gamer is absurd.

6. "trophy whore" also doesn't make sense, I don't feel like getting moderated but I'm fairly certain if you think about it you will figure out why on your own.

agreed, and the whore thing was a joke, dont understand why people have to take words like that so literal. anyways it is a marketing scam because developers know that people with no ego outside of there gamer score are just gonna go and buy crap games (even more) because of the tropies. on top of that, you should mabee think about reading up on the definition of hardcore, or at least wiki what a hardcore gamer is by definition is becuase "hardcore gamer" is a phrase thats been used for quite sometime now bub.

on top of all of this you kinda sound like your a "trophy whore" the way you defend and disagree with everything i say lol.

as for the score thing, thats not the only reason why people play pacman, mario, space invaders, froger or megaman. lets gow with there actually fun games lol, give it a rest.

besides if you read my quote correctly, i defended both sides bro. deuces