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#1 Conjuration
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Now that I'm actually face-to-face with possibly buying it today, I got to know if this game was just a fad.

It got a solid 9.4 from IGN, and there was a pretty good buzz going on here for a bit.
But now, things are totally quiet. Too quiet. And what that usually means is that everyone got caught up in the moment and now it's just a forgettable game gone by.

Here's my point: Where I live I cannot find this game under $69.99. You add the taxes around here and it's almost $80 for this game.
Would you pay $80 for this game?

I'm looking for something that feels like a top shelf experience, and will leave an impression on me.
Will this game deliver, or will I love it for a week and put it away?
Is it a real 9.4, or did the reviewer just take too many happy pills that day?

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#2 NoobisMaxcimus
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I felt the same way but i thoroughly enjoyed the game. The buzz for this game is still very much alive, just check the demon's souls forum.

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#3 johnlennon28
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the game's single player kept me busy for over more than two months, its very addictive
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#4 Marmotas
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Its a good game that offers a fair amount of challenge, something hardly found in new games.

This difficulty made it popular, much like DMC3 "normal/Hard" mode in its time.

But just like DMC3 its not just about the challenge, but also the quality of the product.

This is a great game and the talk about it is nowhere near about to end, just check the PS3 forums, this game gets like 2-3 new topics each day or the old ones revive, come on, look at this:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27065821&page=74

Almos 1500 posts of Q and A

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#5 Apocalypse324
Member since 2007 • 1486 Posts

Ive had it since October, have beaten it and am still playing it. I love the game.

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#6 Arctic_Grillz
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Hellz no! DS is one of my treasured ps3 game. it is addictive, but I have to put it aside or else I wont have time to play other games.
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#7 Sportsnut101
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Truly, the difficulty makes me not sold on the game. I can't get past the tutorial stage of it because I keep dying.
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#8 Arctic_Grillz
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Truly, the difficulty makes me not sold on the game. I can't get past the tutorial stage of it because I keep dying.Sportsnut101
what?!
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#9 Dahaka-UK
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Truly, the difficulty makes me not sold on the game. I can't get past the tutorial stage of it because I keep dying.Sportsnut101

If you'd of actually played the game you would know dying on the tutorial stage is a requirement to continue on in the game. Lol Ofcourse you could be talking about 1-1 which is not the tutorial stage. Which isn't that hard.

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#10 Yandere
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Truly, the difficulty makes me not sold on the game. I can't get past the tutorial stage of it because I keep dying.Sportsnut101

You can block you know..

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#11 Sportsnut101
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[QUOTE="Sportsnut101"]Truly, the difficulty makes me not sold on the game. I can't get past the tutorial stage of it because I keep dying.Dahaka-UK

If you'd of actually played the game you would know dying on the tutorial stage is a requirement to continue on in the game. Lol Ofcourse you could be talking about 1-1 which is not the tutorial stage. Which isn't that hard.

Seemed the same to me. I didn't realize it was a requirement. Well now I keep dying on 1-1, and it's not making me too happy.
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#12 Ospov
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Meh, I think it was maybe half a fad and half because people actually liked it. I think people were just hyped for it because "OmG iTs So HaRd If YoU cAn BeAt It ThEn YoU'rE hArDcOrE!!1!" and really the only thing you need to beat it is a ton of patience. I mean it's not a bad game. It's pretty decent for what it is, but I wouldn't pay $80 for it. Is that how much all new games cost in your area?

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#13 gregbmil
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I've played it for about 103 hours, so far. I don't think I have ever played a game this much in my entire life, and I'm not planning on stoping anytime soon.

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#14 eo_the_shaman
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if i had know demons soul would be like the way it was, i would never have purchased it, i mean if youre into doing the same thing over and over then i still wouldnt recommmend this game imo all you do is attack retreat die

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#15 Kan0nF0dder
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Nope, not a fad - it's a solid AAA action-RPG.

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#16 amsfm6
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Not a fad, it's definitely a great game, but it's not for everyone. Some people are going to like it more than others. I guess you don't hear about it as much now because more games like MW2 and Assassin's Creed 2 are out and sort of hog the spotlight.

For me it is a top-shelf experience, and it will last you much longer than a week, provided you don't give up. Just be prepared to suffer a little in the beginning, until you get better.

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#17 Javieralijandro
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clocked in 60+ hours
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#18 Ghost_702
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If you like doing the same things over and over again then you may not like it. However, when you finally beat the levels, it's a pretty nice feeling.
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#19 Godak
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Heh...ITT: People who don't know that you can kill the tutorial boss. :P

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#20 jamejame
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I stopped playing when I made it the the end of the first world, then died by a trap which I wouldn't have known was there unless I had already died by it. I just haven't felt like replaying the entire first world to get back there yet, though I'll do it some day.

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#21 GameHog9
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I love it

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#22 Sokol4ever
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Now that I'm actually face-to-face with possibly buying it today, I got to know if this game was just a fad.

It got a solid 9.4 from IGN, and there was a pretty good buzz going on here for a bit.
But now, things are totally quiet. Too quiet. And what that usually means is that everyone got caught up in the moment and now it's just a forgettable game gone by.

Here's my point: Where I live I cannot find this game under $69.99. You add the taxes around here and it's almost $80 for this game.
Would you pay $80 for this game?

I'm looking for something that feels like a top shelf experience, and will leave an impression on me.
Will this game deliver, or will I love it for a week and put it away?
Is it a real 9.4, or did the reviewer just take too many happy pills that day?

Conjuration

Yes. If you enjoy RPG's it's well worth it.

I can't make you enjoy something forcefully, my 80$ (Canada) were well spent.

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#23 Dulledge91
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Demons souls is by far one of my favorite if not my favorite RPG i have played in a very long time. It is so addicting and it really gives you the feeling of accomplishment that most games don't give you. If you have the patience to put up with some dying than this game is great.
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#24 Conjuration
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Is that how much all new games cost in your area?

Ospov

Fot awhile they were all that price, but they're going back slowly to $59.99 (which I think is ok).
Demon's Souls is maybe the only one that refuses to drop back down to normal.
The one game I really want, go figure. :roll:

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#25 Keir21
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Game of the year no doubt. Beats the hell out of Killzone, Infamous and Uncharted 2 imo.
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#26 paperdollparade
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I highly doubt it I was playing pretty much only that game from the end of April to beginning of November I haven't played it in a while but I'm definitely going back to it over the winter break.

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#27 Eye_See
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The only reason you aren't hearing much about DS now (that is, if you don't visit the forums that are specifically made for the game and its community) is because it has been out for some time at this point. The bigger budget end of the year titles have hit and any buzz concerning video games all revolves around games like "Assassin's Creed II" and "Modern Warfare II". These games had a budget that far surpasses that of a more superior game like Demon's Souls and therefore the big corporations like Ubisoft and Activision pay for the marketing to continue. I played the game for some time and couldn't stop no matter how many times I died. The game keeps calling the player through its method of death, in that the player only dies because he/she made some mistake that he/she knows how to remedy upon the same confrontation the next time through. It's freakin' brilliant and I need to go back to it just after I finish "Dragon Age". Buy it if you have patience and enjoy a sold RPG experience.

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#28 reaver-x
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a fad? u kidding??? the game is still selling well months later and the forums are still buzzing about the game
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#29 Marmotas
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Marmotas is to Demon's Souls what Furi-kun is to Haze

XD

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#30 KoolzKatz
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Look at the consumer base for gaming, mass appeal wants instant gratification and doesnt want to work for it either. A hard experience makes less people open to it when other easy games are around and people can feel good about themselves.

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#31 JudgementEden
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I used to own the game, beat it three times. I sold it awhile ago, wouldn't buy it again. If I would have known how it was, I would have never bought it in the first place. In my opinion, its a terrible game hidden under the guise of challenging. By that same logic, Armored Core should have gotten as much acclaim as Demon's Souls, but it never has. I have a review of it on my profile if you want to read it. Keep in mind though, I hate this game and think it gets too much praise for doing hardly anything.
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#32 Godak
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I used to own the game, beat it three times. I sold it awhile ago, wouldn't buy it again. If I would have known how it was, I would have never bought it in the first place. In my opinion, its a terrible game hidden under the guise of challenging. By that same logic, Armored Core should have gotten as much acclaim as Demon's Souls, but it never has. I have a review of it on my profile if you want to read it. Keep in mind though, I hate this game and think it gets too much praise for doing hardly anything.JudgementEden

You're primary complaints are:

1) Little variety in available equipment. That's a bald-faced lie, and you should no that if you truly beat the game three times.

2) The game's hard.

...Tough? Don't suck so much? It really isn't challenging, andin no way is it "cheap". If you play the game enough, you can kill the bosses without getting hit once. They all have patterns, and they all telegraph their attacks. You just need to use your head.

BTW, my first character was pure melee. No spells, and my only miracle was heal.

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#33 JustWiicredible
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No it's not a fad. It's still a great game, one that you need to play.
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#34 meluvulongtime8
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DS is one of my favorite games period. The people that have gone quiet are the ones that put the game down because they can't handle the fact that you can't just spam attack. I love the game so much I platinum'd it even after my PS3 YLOD'd and I ended up losing 60 hours worth of play.

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#35 Marmotas
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DS is one of my favorite games period. The people that have gone quiet are the ones that put the game down because they can't handle the fact that you can't just spam attack. I love the game so much I platinum'd it even after my PS3 YLOD'd and I ended up losing 60 hours worth of play.

meluvulongtime8

Truth.

I lended my game to my cousin and he hated it at first because he wanted the character to evade the attacks like a MMORPG, in wich you only need to put a shield and stuff and your enemies auto-miss an attack without you doing nothing. Or he started spaming attacks and got countered, and so on.

He eventually liked it and bought his own copy once he got used to the game.

I love this game.

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#36 Greyfeld
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I used to own the game, beat it three times. I sold it awhile ago, wouldn't buy it again. If I would have known how it was, I would have never bought it in the first place. In my opinion, its a terrible game hidden under the guise of challenging. By that same logic, Armored Core should have gotten as much acclaim as Demon's Souls, but it never has. I have a review of it on my profile if you want to read it. Keep in mind though, I hate this game and think it gets too much praise for doing hardly anything.JudgementEden
Because all of us always replay games we hate 3 times. You know, just to make ABSOLUTELY SURE we really hate it.
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#37 Maximus923
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Rent it.

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#38 Shad0ki11
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If you don't know if you want to buy the game or not, then rent it.

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[QUOTE="JudgementEden"]I used to own the game, beat it three times. I sold it awhile ago, wouldn't buy it again. If I would have known how it was, I would have never bought it in the first place. In my opinion, its a terrible game hidden under the guise of challenging. By that same logic, Armored Core should have gotten as much acclaim as Demon's Souls, but it never has. I have a review of it on my profile if you want to read it. Keep in mind though, I hate this game and think it gets too much praise for doing hardly anything.Greyfeld
Because all of us always replay games we hate 3 times. You know, just to make ABSOLUTELY SURE we really hate it.

Haha, there's a serious hole in someones logic. :P
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Yes its a fad. I've put in more than 100+ hours into it and now when I go online, I don't find many people. Maybe I should rephrase that a little... when I started, everyone was around the same lvl so finding help was easy and bp were plentiful. Now... those same people have gotten much higher lvl or quit playing, while some new people started and others didn't lvl up due to difficulty or whatever. That being said, the buzz of having the muiltiplayer hasn't so much as died as it has changed for the worse. Some levels you will find an abundance of mp action, others are completley dry. For me, thats the magic DS had, and that magic isn't the same as it once was.

Now aside from the mp, single player experience dies after maybe the 2nd or 3rd playthrough. As you get used to the game, it becomes extreamly repetative. Sure you can start a NG+, but its the same as NG in every way. Most likley you will only find very small differences depending on your world tendancy and its not going to be enough to "wow" you. Yes there are a lot of weapons, but they all do the same thing, they just look different and aside from the extreams, they also feel the same.Magic isn'tthat awesome looking and you will probably only use 2-4 spells to fight with. Despite having the ability to make a character any way you want,all your builds turn out very similar: pure magic, or melee with some magic/miracles. Despite having the ability to re-roll a new character, most of them will turn out very similar. Either pure magic, or melee with some magic/miricales.

Maybe I'm just getting tired of the game so I'm seeing more downsides than good. It is an awesome game, but its a fad. The game won't stand the test of time and the multiplayer experience has evened out, lessening the "magic" the game once offered and it will continue to die out as it already has so far. Its done well, but its like a coke left out in the open it was refreshing till the fizz ran out. Now, its dissapointing and puts its original experience to shame.

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#42 majoras_wrath
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Just a fad? I doubt it. Its a great game, and no length of time is going to change that.
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#43 BPoole96
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I'm currently on my 6th or 7th playthrough and I love it. It's actually the only game that I have pulled an all nighter on this whole year

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#44 amsfm6
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Yes its a fad. I've put in more than 100+ hours into it and now when I go online, I don't find many people. Maybe I should rephrase that a little... when I started, everyone was around the same lvl so finding help was easy and bp were plentiful. Now... those same people have gotten much higher lvl or quit playing, while some new people started and others didn't lvl up due to difficulty or whatever. That being said, the buzz of having the muiltiplayer hasn't so much as died as it has changed for the worse. Some levels you will find an abundance of mp action, others are completley dry. For me, thats the magic DS had, and that magic isn't the same as it once was.

Now aside from the mp, single player experience dies after maybe the 2nd or 3rd playthrough. As you get used to the game, it becomes extreamly repetative. Sure you can start a NG+, but its the same as NG in every way. Most likley you will only find very small differences depending on your world tendancy and its not going to be enough to "wow" you. Yes there are a lot of weapons, but they all do the same thing, they just look different and aside from the extreams, they also feel the same.Magic isn'tthat awesome looking and you will probably only use 2-4 spells to fight with. Despite having the ability to make a character any way you want,all your builds turn out very similar: pure magic, or melee with some magic/miracles. Despite having the ability to re-roll a new character, most of them will turn out very similar. Either pure magic, or melee with some magic/miricales.

Maybe I'm just getting tired of the game so I'm seeing more downsides than good. It is an awesome game, but its a fad. The game won't stand the test of time and the multiplayer experience has evened out, lessening the "magic" the game once offered and it will continue to die out as it already has so far. Its done well, but its like a coke left out in the open it was refreshing till the fizz ran out. Now, its dissapointing and puts its original experience to shame.

Ninja_Zombie83

Lol, you got 100+ hours out of it, I think it was worth it!

I disagree with you about the online, it's the same for me as it's always been. But even when the servers are long since shut down, it'll still be a great single player game, and nothing can take that away from it.

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#45 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="Ninja_Zombie83"]

Yes its a fad. I've put in more than 100+ hours into it and now when I go online, I don't find many people. Maybe I should rephrase that a little... when I started, everyone was around the same lvl so finding help was easy and bp were plentiful. Now... those same people have gotten much higher lvl or quit playing, while some new people started and others didn't lvl up due to difficulty or whatever. That being said, the buzz of having the muiltiplayer hasn't so much as died as it has changed for the worse. Some levels you will find an abundance of mp action, others are completley dry. For me, thats the magic DS had, and that magic isn't the same as it once was.

Now aside from the mp, single player experience dies after maybe the 2nd or 3rd playthrough. As you get used to the game, it becomes extreamly repetative. Sure you can start a NG+, but its the same as NG in every way. Most likley you will only find very small differences depending on your world tendancy and its not going to be enough to "wow" you. Yes there are a lot of weapons, but they all do the same thing, they just look different and aside from the extreams, they also feel the same.Magic isn'tthat awesome looking and you will probably only use 2-4 spells to fight with. Despite having the ability to make a character any way you want,all your builds turn out very similar: pure magic, or melee with some magic/miracles. Despite having the ability to re-roll a new character, most of them will turn out very similar. Either pure magic, or melee with some magic/miricales.

Maybe I'm just getting tired of the game so I'm seeing more downsides than good. It is an awesome game, but its a fad. The game won't stand the test of time and the multiplayer experience has evened out, lessening the "magic" the game once offered and it will continue to die out as it already has so far. Its done well, but its like a coke left out in the open it was refreshing till the fizz ran out. Now, its dissapointing and puts its original experience to shame.

amsfm6

Lol, you got 100+ hours out of it, I think it was worth it!

I disagree with you about the online, it's the same for me as it's always been. But even when the servers are long since shut down, it'll still be a great single player game, and nothing can take that away from it.

I have noticed a big drop in Black Phantoms invading my games. I used to get 1 like every level but now it's maybe once per chapter (except chapter 5, nobody invades there). I'm guess most people quit playing by the time they get to a higher level so people up top do not have much to go up against. The same 5 or 6 people are the ones who will rarely invade my game

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#46 amsfm6
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I have noticed a big drop in Black Phantoms invading my games. I used to get 1 like every level but now it's maybe once per chapter (except chapter 5, nobody invades there). I'm guess most people quit playing by the time they get to a higher level so people up top do not have much to go up against. The same 5 or 6 people are the ones who will rarely invade my game

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Not me, I still get invaded every damn time. I'm only around level 105 though.

But yeah, it's probably inevitable that you won't have alot of people to play with once your level gets up into the stratosphere.

This isn't an MMO, you can only expect so much.

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#47 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I have noticed a big drop in Black Phantoms invading my games. I used to get 1 like every level but now it's maybe once per chapter (except chapter 5, nobody invades there). I'm guess most people quit playing by the time they get to a higher level so people up top do not have much to go up against. The same 5 or 6 people are the ones who will rarely invade my game

amsfm6

Not me, I still get invaded every damn time. I'm only around level 105 though.

But yeah, it's probably inevitable that you won't have alot of people to play with once your level gets up into the stratosphere.

This isn't an MMO, you can only expect so much.

That's true. It is a lot more fun when higher level people join my game though since they will actually try to fight me rather than sprint ahead near a group of enemies and wait for me to get there so they can do fire storm. I think it was around SL 180 that I stopped getting frequent invasions

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#48 Assassin1349
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I have no problem with the difficulty. I have a problem with the repetition. It's the same **** over and over. In fact, worse than Assassins Creed when it comes to repeating the same crap over and over. The game drags on far too long and actually I'll say it, but dying over and over is ****ing annoying regardless of the fact that you eventually get past it and beat the game. I basically don't like it for the same reason I don't like Diablo and Diablo II, too repetetive.

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I have no problem with the difficulty. I have a problem with the repetition. It's the same **** over and over. In fact, worse than Assassins Creed when it comes to repeating the same crap over and over. The game drags on far too long and actually I'll say it, but dying over and over is ****ing annoying regardless of the fact that you eventually get past it and beat the game. I basically don't like it for the same reason I don't like Diablo and Diablo II, too repetetive.

Assassin1349

It is a little repetitive, but I like to switch it up with the weapons/armor/magic I use. I got bored of using the Northern Regalia all the time so now I've switched the the Crushing Battle Axe and the Daggar. I have to play a little differently than before so that switches it up a bit. Playing with friends or random people and seeing them die is fun as well

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#50 uyiop0t
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No, definitely not. The game is quite groundbreaking in many ways for both the RPG and action adventure genre. I was extremely impressed with what I saw and played.