@bezza2011 said:
@yonnex said:
I had no doubts or problems with joel saving ellie. After picking up one of those recorders left in the hospital and the doctor on the recording said they have extracted the brains and tissues from other immune subjects and they are getting closer with each one.
THIS THIS THIS!!!!
as much as i wanted to find the cure for humanity, many people missed this tape recorder and it basicly said that she may not be the cure and they have had many, she could of died for nothing, and so the ending was just amazing probably the greatest ending to a game i've ever seen, it was the biggest and most daring move from naughtydog i've ever seen.
it was spot on and it leaves it open to sequels aswel
EXACTLY!!!! The was never a *for sure* guarantee that Ellie's procedure would provide a vaccine. And besides, like the guy a page or two back said, they weren't even working on a cure! They were working on a vaccine, which would only prevent the current population from getting infected, but then what's the point of that? Most people get torn apart by the infected and die anyway, so what would a vaccine really do? The wounds from the bites/ lacerations from an infected swarm already kill you. So basically, if you *somehow* survive the attack, You won't die? That seems more just like a desperate attempt. And the way the Fireflies were going about working on a vaccine, finding people, sometimes kids, with immunity and killing them through surgical examination that *may or may not* get them closer to a vaccine, that can't be justified in my opinion. Marlene's and Joel's motivations differ, night and day. Marlene and the Fireflies planned on "saving humanity" through mandatory lethal surgery. Joel saved Ellie purely for his fatherly love and concern for her well-being. So really, in the end, yes, Joel lied to Ellie. But what Joel said did actually have some truth to it. The Fireflies *weren't* looking for a cure. Again, they were looking for a vaccine. He felt that, (and rightly so), a vaccine at this stage of the infection; after 20 years, would be near useless. At first when I beat the game I was a little conflicted because Joel lied to Ellie. But now it doesn't bother me as much because despite his actions, (pretty much executing Marlene) , his motivations were pure. And the Fireflies clearly can't be trusted based upon their actions.
Anyway, brilliant and beautiful game. Never had a game get me so emotionally immersed. And I think that if the ending of a game provokes discussions like this then it was certainly worth our time and money.
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