what ive noticed about Sony fans...

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#1 runekey
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...they are WAY too content! I know it isnt good to act like a whiny brat, but it seems like Sony fans are O-K with anything! At least on the official playstation forums.

I lookat threads about PS3 price drops and see tons of people saying "I think the PS3 should go back to $600! or maybe even $800!" and i see threads about if Sony were to charge for their online service and i see people saying "I feel like im stealing from Sony by getting free online play!"

Playing a game you've already paid for in stores should ALWAYS be free to play online! The only time Sony should ever THINK to charge for online play is if it were to play an MMO like FF14, or if they offered a premium membership to pay for if you wanted cross-game chat or some other bonus feature. But basic player-to-player online gaming should ALWAYS be free.

So what im saying is, come on Sony fans (or at least the ones who act like this)! Your never going to get anything out of a company if you keep telling them that they're product is too good for the price! Im not saying "please complain more" im saying, stop defending Sony if it is unneccesary.

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#2 kweeni
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all i want is BC, other than that i'm happy
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#3 runekey
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all i want is BC, other than that i'm happykweeni

thats fine. Im not saying you need to go around saying "I WANT A PRICE DROP" even though you really dont care, im just asking that you dont go around saying "the price is way too low!" or "Sony has the perfect console!"

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#4 Floppy_Jim
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I remember a lot of them complained about the $600 price, lack of rumble, lack of PS2 BC, lack of in-game XMB, lack of trophies, etc. (and rightly so) Now most of that stuff has been fixed, there's less to whine about.
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#5 SagaRain
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Sony fans complain? don't think so.

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#6 kweeni
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]all i want is BC, other than that i'm happyrunekey

thats fine. Im not saying you need to go around saying "I WANT A PRICE DROP" even though you really dont care, im just asking that you dont go around saying "the price is way too low!" or "Sony has the perfect console!"

i think the price is fine

game console + free online + blu ray(not that i watch much movies anyway) for 399€ is a good deal imo

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#7 runekey
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[QUOTE="runekey"]

[QUOTE="kweeni"] i think the price is fine

game console + free online + blu ray(not that i watch much movies anyway) for 399€ is a good deal imo

kweeni

again:

thats fine. Im not saying you need to go around saying "I WANT A PRICE DROP" even though you really dont care, im just asking that you dont go around saying "the price is way too low!"

see what im saying now?

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#8 danome01
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Raise prices? NOOOO lololol, I got my ps3 40gb for 400 bucks and im still a bit unsatisfied on that part because an 80gb is 400$... Its a great package tho anyways, but I'm definitely not satisfied to be okay with a price raise. Sure its got blu-ray, all the good stuff X), but still......money doesn't grow on trees....its not even made from paper.

Also I don't feel like im ripping off of Sony because of free online, I bought a game for its content, if it has online multiplayer, I should be able to play online multiplayer without having to pay more money. xbox's great also but paying for live.......was a huge turnoff, even tho it has some great exclusives i wanna play on it T.T

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#9 kweeni
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]

[QUOTE="runekey"]

again:

runekey

thats fine. Im not saying you need to go around saying "I WANT A PRICE DROP" even though you really dont care, im just asking that you dont go around saying "the price is way too low!"

see what im saying now?

i don't go around saying the price is to low...
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#10 runekey
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Raise prices? NOOOO lololol, I got my ps3 40gb for 400 bucks and im still a bit unsatisfied on that part because an 80gb is 400$... Its a great package tho anyways, but I'm definitely not satisfied to be okay with a price raise. Sure its got blu-ray, all the good stuff X), but still......money doesn't grow on trees....its not even made from paper.

danome01

exactly what im getting at.

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#11 runekey
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[QUOTE="runekey"]

[QUOTE="kweeni"]

thats fine. Im not saying you need to go around saying "I WANT A PRICE DROP" even though you really dont care, im just asking that you dont go around saying "the price is way too low!"kweeni

see what im saying now?

i don't go around saying the price is to low...

other people do. Ill look for some examples.

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#12 -ColinR-
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all i want is BC, other than that i'm happykweeni

Agreed! BC is the only thing my PS3 needs to reach 100% awesomeness!

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#13 kweeni
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[QUOTE="kweeni"][QUOTE="runekey"]

see what im saying now?

runekey

i don't go around saying the price is to low...

other people do. Ill look for some examples.

don't have to, i know other people do that. but i don't
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#14 1337h4xx0rz
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I think that the price for the ps3 is perfectly fine compared to the xbox 360. If you were to take the features of the xbox and add extra to give it the features of the ps3 (minus bluetooth since you cant even get that) you will be paying more than the ps3, and thats not even bringing the blu-ray compatibility feature in the picture!

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#15 DaSaint93
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At first I thought the PS3 prices where to much but when i got one i thought that every penny was worth it! but no more!!! Ye I know what your saying when I dident have the money for my 160 gb PS3 I hated the fact that all the sony lovers where saying put the prices up! But now I got one I feel the same way! PS3 ROCKS!
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What's the problem if we're lucky with our systems? o_O I never got the feeling to get ripped off and as long as I personally have the feeling that every cent I gave Sony is worth it, I'm happy :/

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#17 runekey
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What's the problem if we're lucky with our systems? o_O I never got the feeling to get ripped off and as long as I personally have the feeling that every cent I gave Sony is worth it, I'm happy :/

ArchoNils2

im fine with you being content with your console, but i just get pissed when people say they should raise prices, or take out features. Its just really dumb

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#18 hazelnutman
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Erm... I'm happy with the PS3? I don't see a problem with that :P
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#19 Ninja_Zombie83
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What, you want us to cry because we actually like our system? So you want us to be happy and complain? What the heck do you hope to achieve anyways...Its not like we are asking for higher prices, we are just happy with what we have. Maybe you should be too.
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#20 Duckman5
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I'm happy with my system but I agree that we still need updates and improvements to make it better. I also think that we need a PS3 slim to enlarge the community.I will never be completely satisfied but that's okay because consumers should never be completely satisfied. If we were then companies could get away with selling us junk.
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#21 Scianix-Black
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You're not asking them to complain but you're asking them to stop accepting what they've been given?

There's no middle ground.

You're either settling for what there is or you're complaining for something else.

I'm happy with what my $400 bought me.

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#22 alkaline_DnB
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i paid $600 for a 60gb. it was expensive, but I'm glad I did, as I have a huge library of ps2 games. i thought it was a bit steep when i bought it, but now i see ppl paying $400 for ps3s without bc and it makes me feel like the 60gb wasn't that bad of a deal. plus blu-ray, slots to put cards in, all sorts of sh*t...it's a great piece of machinery.

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#24 Skratshme
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For me they cross the line when they start making us pay for stuff that should be included in the game, for example: Prince of Percia. You have to buy the ending of the game. I just finished the last boss and watching the ending, or what i tought was the ending, and the next day when i was looking over psn i see a PoP downloadable content intitled "Epilogue" for 15 euros (+/- 21 dollars) at that moment i felt like i was struck by lightening while wearing a steel armor soaked with napalm. They have no right making us pay extra for the END of the game >_>
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#25 SS4Link432
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wow those guys are dumb. you've seen some say the price should be higher? and they wanna pay for online service? these people must have some kind of terrible brain trauma.i'm a sony fan but dang those people take it to the retarded level.

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For me they cross the line when they start making us pay for stuff that should be included in the game, for example: Prince of Percia. You have to buy the ending of the game. I just finished the last boss and watching the ending, or what i tought was the ending, and the next day when i was looking over psn i see a PoP downloadable content intitled "Epilogue" for 15 euros (+/- 21 dollars) at that moment i felt like i was struck by lightening while wearing a steel armor soaked with napalm. They have no right making us pay extra for the END of the game >_>Skratshme

I haven't bought the DLC for Prince of Persia yet cause I let my brother borrow it. But I felt the game ended how it should of ended, it was unique in its own way. I guess that extra DLC is for people that hated the way the game ended? If so, maybe I'll just pass it up entirely.

Anyways, I payed $500 for my 80gig back in Oct 2007. Its does everything its suppose to and there isn't really anything it needs to do that it can't do already. The only thing I'm complaining about is getting those good PS3 games out (aside from the awesome ones already released).

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#27 Symphonycometh
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I complain about PS3 games and PS3 owners. Do I count?
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#28 Skratshme
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[QUOTE="Skratshme"]For me they cross the line when they start making us pay for stuff that should be included in the game, for example: Prince of Percia. You have to buy the ending of the game. I just finished the last boss and watching the ending, or what i tought was the ending, and the next day when i was looking over psn i see a PoP downloadable content intitled "Epilogue" for 15 euros (+/- 21 dollars) at that moment i felt like i was struck by lightening while wearing a steel armor soaked with napalm. They have no right making us pay extra for the END of the game >_>Zidaneski

I haven't bought the DLC for Prince of Persia yet cause I let my brother borrow it. But I felt the game ended how it should of ended, it was unique in its own way. I guess that extra DLC is for people that hated the way the game ended? If so, maybe I'll just pass it up entirely.

Anyways, I payed $500 for my 80gig back in Oct 2007. Its does everything its suppose to and there isn't really anything it needs to do that it can't do already. The only thing I'm complaining about is getting those good PS3 games out (aside from the awesome ones already released).

I guess that's one way of putting it, a game ending with the end of the world is pretty unique. I'll just have to acept it one way or another because there is no way im spending 21 bucks on that thing, i didn't even like the game that much it was really repetitive in the fight's and everything else. Here (Portugal) a ps3 + a dualshock 3 + 5 games (infamous, fifa 09, motorstorm: pacific rift, mirror's edge and wwe smackdown vs raw 2008 ) is 568 dollars. I guess that's fair :p
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...I just play. :|

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#30 Rakuho
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well, this is the first time I've seen a complaint thread about people not complaining enough... people have their own perception of value... if they don't want to take things for granted like the PS3's features or services, and/or are generally fine with the way the console is priced given the package they receive in return, how can you prove that their rationale is flawed? There is no right or wrong, it's just a matter of opinion...
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#31 Warriorboy1990
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Sony fans complain? don't think so.

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I remember Final Fantasy 13 was originally announced for the PS3, then Enix decided to port it to the 360. All the PS3 fanboys went crazy lol.
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#32 snowman6251
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If you think the PS3 forums are overly content go check out the Wii Forums. As an ex wii exclusive owner owning a PS3 has kind of opened my eyes to how much I was willing to settle for less. The forums are overjoyed because Treyarch is porting the original MW onto wii as everyone else gets MW2. If I hadn't just gotten a PS3, I'd probably still be excited over it. If anyone settles for less, its them.
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#33 Javieralijandro
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]all i want is BC, other than that i'm happy-ColinR-

Agreed! BC is the only thing my PS3 needs to reach 100% awesomeness!

3rd this
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#34 runekey
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wow those guys are dumb. you've seen some say the price should be higher? and they wanna pay for online service? these people must have some kind of terrible brain trauma.i'm a sony fan but dang those people take it to the retarded level.

SS4Link432

yes. Thats exactly what im talking about. People will literally say that "the PS3 is too dirt cheap"

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#35 bluem00se
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all i want is BC, other than that i'm happykweeni
this. I don't care about the price... I already have one so why would I? It would be nice if the price dropped so that Sony would get a bigger install base and all that but it's not like it would directly affect me if they did or not.
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#36 gamenerd15
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I don't complain about what the PS3 needs really or it's price. I could understand $600 because that was a lot even I did buy it. The PS3 had only like 4 games worth playing in the first 7 months and it's online store and features were laughable. I just don't like how people make the Xbox 360 out to be way cheaper than PS3 when they are about = if you really look at it. In long term perspective, the 360 will cost more in the long run and it could cost more depending on what you already have. $400 is a great deal for PS3 even without BC. The online is almost up to par with Live for the most part. The only thing that the PS3 doesn't have that is a cool feature is cross game chat. If the PS3 had that, then paying for live would be a complete joke. Even now at the 360's $50 a year price, that is still too expensive when you can get almost the same experience on PS3 for nothing. 2 years ago, yes that $50 would have been worth it, but now no way.

The PS3 can play Blu ray, use web browsing to an acceptable extent, you can use PC flash drives for making things easily transferable such as music and movies. The movies and music copy light years faster than on 360. The controller doesn't need batteries, some multiplayer games go above the standard 16players like Warhawk, Socom, Resistance 2, MAG, Killzone 2. Even though the sixaxis isn't used often, there are some games that do use it well like Folklore, Toy Home, Ratchet and Clank, Flower ETC. ThePS3's Dpad is also better. The fan isn't loud at allunlike the 360.

It justis annoying tokeep seeing "when is thePS3 going to drop in price soI can buy it." Is the PS3 worth it." IT'S$50 MORE THAN THE 360, IT'SNOT LIKE YOUR PAYING $1000 FOR THE SYSTEM. The $200 360 is garbage, ok pure and simple. The common excuse is that The 360 arcade is ok if all yourgoing to do is just play games. 256 MB isn't enough to do garbage. If you can save up $350 to get 360, it's notthat much harder to to save up$50 more dollars.

You can even use 3rd partyusb controllerpc gamepads on PS3. I use one as a 2nd player controller. You can't do that on 360.

Mostgames as of 2008 have the option to push traingle to invite someone to play a game. Mostnewer games I have played support the invite a friend option. It's only in the early games where this isn't present.

It just seems like people want to find reasons not to buy a PS3 and so they use the excuses that might have worked 2 years ago butarenonexistentas of 2008 +.

IT'S OK TO PURCHASE APS3 AND IT'S AT A GOOD PRICE. I am sorry that there isn't a crap in the box PS3 version for cheapo's to buy. I am not trying to make fun of people's financial situations but for what you get, it's pretty fair.It's not the ultimate system but it fits the bill.It has it's own games and the multiplats run fine now.

I don't care if you don't want to buy a PS3 just stop stating crap about it like "it's too expensive" or "therearen't enough games" or" is a PS3 worth it if I already have a 360?" The short answer is YES. All systems are worth the price they are at except for xbox live. That price needs to come down.

People need to start looking at the long term when buying a console and not justhow it is currently.

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#37 Denji
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Bleh, what about just fans of video games in general? Why be a fan of one company?

The only thing I've complained about with the PS3 and Sony was the warrenty for defective machines, and wallpaper. We've got the wallpaper option.:P

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#38 gangster480
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soo i have a question for tc, Doyou have a ps3? if so youd understand entirelyof its awesomeness.

sony fans are not a diferrent kind of people. people dont act a certain way because they are sony's fan.

if sony fans bought something that dont have much value for a high price they would be complaining.

its just that we all see how awesome and worth the money it is.

btw which system do tc have?

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#39 deactivated-59506133570df
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I don't understand whay you're saying about PSN

PSN is completely free to use.

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#40 bobaban
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I'm just surprised 360 users are content with RROD issue and damage control with the 3 year warranty. It's unacceptable to me.
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#41 paperdollparade
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im happy with my ps3. the only thing i want is mkv support. since I already have a BC ps3 I don't care wether they get BC on the rest of the models and I really don't care how much a ps3 costs. why should I? I'm not going to buy a second one.

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#42 Totalgym9000
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[QUOTE="runekey"]

...they are WAY too content! I know it isnt good to act like a whiny brat, but it seems like Sony fans are O-K with anything! At least on the official playstation forums.

I lookat threads about PS3 price drops and see tons of people saying "I think the PS3 should go back to $600! or maybe even $800!" and i see threads about if Sony were to charge for their online service and i see people saying "I feel like im stealing from Sony by getting free online play!"

Playing a game you've already paid for in stores should ALWAYS be free to play online! The only time Sony should ever THINK to charge for online play is if it were to play an MMO like FF14, or if they offered a premium membership to pay for if you wanted cross-game chat or some other bonus feature. But basic player-to-player online gaming should ALWAYS be free.

So what im saying is, come on Sony fans (or at least the ones who act like this)! Your never going to get anything out of a company if you keep telling them that they're product is too good for the price! Im not saying "please complain more" im saying, stop defending Sony if it is unneccesary.

And 360 fans go around all happy paying to play online peer to peer!! and even get defensive at the thought of people saying it's a rip off for being forced to pay to play online peer to peer.....
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#43 Denji
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[QUOTE="runekey"]

...they are WAY too content! I know it isnt good to act like a whiny brat, but it seems like Sony fans are O-K with anything! At least on the official playstation forums.

I lookat threads about PS3 price drops and see tons of people saying "I think the PS3 should go back to $600! or maybe even $800!" and i see threads about if Sony were to charge for their online service and i see people saying "I feel like im stealing from Sony by getting free online play!"

Playing a game you've already paid for in stores should ALWAYS be free to play online! The only time Sony should ever THINK to charge for online play is if it were to play an MMO like FF14, or if they offered a premium membership to pay for if you wanted cross-game chat or some other bonus feature. But basic player-to-player online gaming should ALWAYS be free.

So what im saying is, come on Sony fans (or at least the ones who act like this)! Your never going to get anything out of a company if you keep telling them that they're product is too good for the price! Im not saying "please complain more" im saying, stop defending Sony if it is unneccesary.

Totalgym9000

And 360 fans go around all happy paying to play online peer to peer!! and even get defensive at the thought of people saying it's a rip off for being forced to pay to play online peer to peer.....

Because stupid people don't like being told they're stupid. See, they think throwing money at something makes it better. In their (lack of) logic, if you pay for something. It must mean that it's "good" by default. Hell, people are even willing to pay for PSN and think PSN would be better if we paid for it.

Something that's been free to use since dial up minus the fact of paying your ISP. Who wants a good thing right?:roll:

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#44 Ospov
Member since 2007 • 3708 Posts

I don't think I've ever met any of the people you talked about in your post...

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#45 chaplainDMK
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Xbox 360 is more expansive then the PS3 if you want them to have the same ammout of features.

The Elite version costs 350$ + 50$ a year for Live + HD-DVD player (witch is crap) witch prolly costs something like 50$ or more.

350+50+50= 450...And it still aint as good as aPS3 :D

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People don't think about the long term and MS knows this and that is why they have been so successful. When joe shmoe walks into the store and sees 260 for $300 and PS3 for $400 he automatically will think the other one is cheaper. He doesn't look further down the road at all the extra possible costs like online every year. The failure rates and overall just annoying hardware things like BIG A** POWER BRICK.

I only bought the 360 for RPG's basically butI haven't really like any of them that much except for Tales of Vesperia. Ninja Gaiden 2 was cool but PS3 versions seems a good bit better even with less blood.more game modes and levels is greater than gore. There is not much reason to get a 360 at the moment unless you really have toplay the timed exclusives they have for the time beiing.What has the box come out with this year Star Ocean which alot of critics said was so so to good but failed to live up tothe greatness of the 3rd one, NinjaBlade which is basicallya heavenly sword rip off only ninja themed and the story isn't as serious. They have had Velvet Assassin which everyone saidit was bad.

Most of the games that sell like mad on 360 are multiplats. I am hoping that 360 has more to offer than Left 4 dead, Crackdown, Forza, Halo, and Mass effect this fall and next year.

Sony has dare I say almost a slewofgames coming between now and 2010. Sony has Ratchet, Uncharted, Demon Souls, White Knight Chronicles, HeavyRain, MAG,The Angency,Insomniacproject6, The Last Guardian, God of War 3, Mod Nation Racers and other rumoured games like Persona 5, Dark Cloud 3, Twisted Metal. Plus we have Trine, Pixeljunk Shooter and the 3rd game from the people that made Flower. PS3 has games that weknow nothing about like Agent. I am pretty sure Sucker Punch will come out with something else. We have NIS working on 2 more exclusive RPG's for the system as well as trying to get Atelier Rorona to come toenglish speaking territories. Hopefully GT 5 full comes out as well. If it doesn't then I will have to saySony is spending way too much on the series. Sony has got like

Honestly I don't see at this point what is still so attractive about the 360 as of right now or in 2010 especially when Sony has got like 15games that are almost guaranteed to at least be fun enough to play for awhile. Whoknows maybe the warhawk guys will announce their next game sometimes soon.

Even Wii looks more appealing than the 360 in 2010.

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...they are WAY too content! I know it isnt good to act like a whiny brat, but it seems like Sony fans are O-K with anything! At least on the official playstation forums.

I lookat threads about PS3 price drops and see tons of people saying "I think the PS3 should go back to $600! or maybe even $800!" and i see threads about if Sony were to charge for their online service and i see people saying "I feel like im stealing from Sony by getting free online play!"

Playing a game you've already paid for in stores should ALWAYS be free to play online! The only time Sony should ever THINK to charge for online play is if it were to play an MMO like FF14, or if they offered a premium membership to pay for if you wanted cross-game chat or some other bonus feature. But basic player-to-player online gaming should ALWAYS be free.

So what im saying is, come on Sony fans (or at least the ones who act like this)! Your never going to get anything out of a company if you keep telling them that they're product is too good for the price! Im not saying "please complain more" im saying, stop defending Sony if it is unneccesary.

runekey
i agree. All though you dont see that to much here. but i have read idiot post saying that they should rais the price and charge for psn ect. case of more money than brains.
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#48 ShadowBass989
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the price was ok, never bothered me. i see how it could bother others though. it was worth it in my mind. its a great console and ive never been disappointed. but if it makes consumers happier and more people buying it, then drop the dang price so they will shut up.