What's up with this gen having very less Survival Horror Games ?

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#1 Young_Charter
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Siren Blood Curse, Dead Space (And 2 coming out), Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 5, Condemmed 2, and F.E.A.R 1 & 2. (I didn't want to add the FPS ones but oh well)...Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but If I only have one hand out on how many horror games are out, isn't that a problem ? Every now and then I want a scare or another online co-op horror game with some gore and horror goodness to it you can share with someone else. I think there should be more horror games.

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I'm Tired of FPS. i want some game like "Holy ****"!

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#3 Young_Charter
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I'm Tired of FPS. i want some game like "Holy ****"!

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Speaking of FPS I think we deserve Left 4 Dead 2 lol I'll love that haha
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Don't exclude Siren: Blood Curse. A solid PSN exclusive.

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#5 Young_Charter
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Don't exclude Siren: Blood Curse. A solid PSN exclusive.

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Sorry about that, It just upsets me how they never made a bluray copy of the game.
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[QUOTE="GingerDeadMan"]

Don't exclude Siren: Blood Curse. A solid PSN exclusive.

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Sorry about that, It just upsets me how they never made a bluray copy of the game.

We've got a blu-ray version over here. I can't see many good survival horrors coming out soon; Dead Space 2 looks more action orientated and there's not much else announced that I can think of atm.
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times like this makes me glad i just barely got in to the survival horror genre

now i can catch up on great classics like silent hill(will eventually pass 3:P)and resident evill(still need to play 0 and 3)

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if i was u id remove RE5 its no where near horror. its more of a action adventure game. NOT ONCE was i like oh snap, or holly F! in that game, it disappoints me so much, but the dlc that came with it the whole wesker thing, to bad it was super short but they had the atmosphere right on that one
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#9 Urizen5
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Because that genre needed a rest. Now if we can just stop the FPS borefest. It's time to bring back 2-d sidescrollers!! Give me Contra!!!!!!

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I would hardly call RE5 a survivor horror game and it sounds like Dead Space 2 is following suit. Its pretty simple, look at all the big games the gen and notice something many of them have in common. Survival horror generally lacks most of what FPS is all about, the pace is much slower, combat is downplayed and in some instances highly discouraged or removed, instead of just running forward and shooting, you have things like puzzles and environmental exploration and of course the coup de grace no multiplayer. Basically its a genre many gamers these days don't have the attention span for, so its being assimilated into the shooter genre.
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There are certain rules to horror games which must be followed in my opinion to truly be scary to me. First of all, there is no way in hell I'm going to be creeped out if I have a partner with me. Isolation is a crucial part of fear, and that feeling is seldom achieved through partners and co-operative play. *cough* Resident Evil 5 *cough* Next up, the access to tools to fight off the terrors which haunt you pretty much kills any kind of scariness the game might have otherwise had. There's no way I'm going to crap my pants if I know that I have a clip of 100 plasma rifle rounds to obliterate anything in my path. That's not to say that you should be powerless to fight off the horror, but at least make it a less-appealing path than running away or avoiding it. *cough* Dead Space *cough* Finally, some developers think it's fine to classify a game as "horror" as long as it has some cheap surprises and scares. What you need is good atmosphere for immersion. Immersion can come from many little things such as a great story, good voice acting, great use of music, proper lighting, unpredictable pacing, etc, etc. Many "horror" games nowadays find a way to screw this up by doing stupid things like cuing the same music every time an enemy is near, only fading out once everyone in the area is dead. I'm still waiting for a good horror game from this gen. That's not to say that games such as Resident Evil 5 and Dead Space are no good (they're some of my favorite PS3 titles), but rather, they're great at being action games, but fail at being good at delivering horror.
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There are certain rules to horror games which must be followed in my opinion to truly be scary to me. First of all, there is no way in hell I'm going to be creeped out if I have a partner with me. Isolation is a crucial part of fear, and that feeling is seldom achieved through partners and co-operative play. *cough* Resident Evil 5 *cough* Next up, the access to tools to fight off the terrors which haunt you pretty much kills any kind of scariness the game might have otherwise had. There's no way I'm going to crap my pants if I know that I have a clip of 100 plasma rifle rounds to obliterate anything in my path. That's not to say that you should be powerless to fight off the horror, but at least make it a less-appealing path than running away or avoiding it. *cough* Dead Space *cough* Finally, some developers think it's fine to classify a game as "horror" as long as it has some cheap surprises and scares. What you need is good atmosphere for immersion. Immersion can come from many little things such as a great story, good voice acting, great use of music, proper lighting, unpredictable pacing, etc, etc. Many "horror" games nowadays find a way to screw this up by doing stupid things like cuing the same music every time an enemy is near, only fading out once everyone in the area is dead. I'm still waiting for a good horror game from this gen. That's not to say that games such as Resident Evil 5 and Dead Space are no good (they're some of my favorite PS3 titles), but rather, they're great at being action games, but fail at being good at delivering horror.hazelnutman

Siren Captured this. I like SURVIVAL HORROR games because i'm on my own, powerless, and not knowing what's there lying in wait.

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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]There are certain rules to horror games which must be followed in my opinion to truly be scary to me. First of all, there is no way in hell I'm going to be creeped out if I have a partner with me. Isolation is a crucial part of fear, and that feeling is seldom achieved through partners and co-operative play. *cough* Resident Evil 5 *cough* Next up, the access to tools to fight off the terrors which haunt you pretty much kills any kind of scariness the game might have otherwise had. There's no way I'm going to crap my pants if I know that I have a clip of 100 plasma rifle rounds to obliterate anything in my path. That's not to say that you should be powerless to fight off the horror, but at least make it a less-appealing path than running away or avoiding it. *cough* Dead Space *cough* Finally, some developers think it's fine to classify a game as "horror" as long as it has some cheap surprises and scares. What you need is good atmosphere for immersion. Immersion can come from many little things such as a great story, good voice acting, great use of music, proper lighting, unpredictable pacing, etc, etc. Many "horror" games nowadays find a way to screw this up by doing stupid things like cuing the same music every time an enemy is near, only fading out once everyone in the area is dead. I'm still waiting for a good horror game from this gen. That's not to say that games such as Resident Evil 5 and Dead Space are no good (they're some of my favorite PS3 titles), but rather, they're great at being action games, but fail at being good at delivering horror.

dead space might have had its flaws but damn was it 10x better than Re5. at least dead space tried to be scary which it had a better atmosphere than RE5
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] dead space might have had its flaws but damn was it 10x better than Re5. at least dead space tried to be scary which it had a better atmosphere than RE5

Dead Space certainly had more horror qualities than Resident Evil 5 could even have hoped of being, but regardless, they both fail in the end at being "horror games".
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] dead space might have had its flaws but damn was it 10x better than Re5. at least dead space tried to be scary which it had a better atmosphere than RE5

Dead Space certainly had more horror qualities than Resident Evil 5 could even have hoped of being, but regardless, they both fail in the end at being "horror games".

i do agree with u, even with ur first post. but yea u basically said it abit better than i did, i was tryin to say that dead space had more horror qualities than RE5, but yea both do kinda fail in the end. but ill be honest i had more fun playin dead space though
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] dead space might have had its flaws but damn was it 10x better than Re5. at least dead space tried to be scary which it had a better atmosphere than RE5

Dead Space certainly had more horror qualities than Resident Evil 5 could even have hoped of being, but regardless, they both fail in the end at being "horror games".

i do agree with u, even with ur first post. but yea u basically said it abit better than i did, i was tryin to say that dead space had more horror qualities than RE5, but yea both do kinda fail in the end. but ill be honest i had more fun playin dead space though

I will admit though, the ending for Dead Space had me jump out of my seat in surprise! :lol:
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="hazelnutman"] Dead Space certainly had more horror qualities than Resident Evil 5 could even have hoped of being, but regardless, they both fail in the end at being "horror games".hazelnutman
i do agree with u, even with ur first post. but yea u basically said it abit better than i did, i was tryin to say that dead space had more horror qualities than RE5, but yea both do kinda fail in the end. but ill be honest i had more fun playin dead space though

I will admit though, the ending for Dead Space had me jump out of my seat in surprise! :lol:

LMAO I Lol'd I loved that game!
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="hazelnutman"] Dead Space certainly had more horror qualities than Resident Evil 5 could even have hoped of being, but regardless, they both fail in the end at being "horror games".hazelnutman
i do agree with u, even with ur first post. but yea u basically said it abit better than i did, i was tryin to say that dead space had more horror qualities than RE5, but yea both do kinda fail in the end. but ill be honest i had more fun playin dead space though

I will admit though, the ending for Dead Space had me jump out of my seat in surprise! :lol:

well i screamed like a lil girl, like that fat guy from accepted when they find and rent this old hospital( he was in superbad as well) my uncle creeping behind me and as soon as she poped out he yelled 'BOOOOO' right near my ear, and i screamed like a lil wuss lol damnit i knew i shouldnt have giving him the game to beat first, he does that to get at me, and then at the end he says, its just a game Nancy lol

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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] i do agree with u, even with ur first post. but yea u basically said it abit better than i did, i was tryin to say that dead space had more horror qualities than RE5, but yea both do kinda fail in the end. but ill be honest i had more fun playin dead space thoughJoKeR_421

I will admit though, the ending for Dead Space had me jump out of my seat in surprise! :lol:

well i screamed like a lil girl, like that fat guy from accepted when they find and rent this old hospital( he was in superbad as well) my uncle creeping behind me and as soon as she poped out he yelled 'BOOOOO' right near my ear, and i screamed like a lil wuss lol damnit i knew i shouldnt have giving him the game to beat first, he does that to get at me, and then at the end he says, its just a game Nancy lol

lol I loved it. I'm getting pt 2 and I'm going to enjoy it :P
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]

[QUOTE="hazelnutman"] I will admit though, the ending for Dead Space had me jump out of my seat in surprise! :lol:Young_Charter

well i screamed like a lil girl, like that fat guy from accepted when they find and rent this old hospital( he was in superbad as well) my uncle creeping behind me and as soon as she poped out he yelled 'BOOOOO' right near my ear, and i screamed like a lil wuss lol damnit i knew i shouldnt have giving him the game to beat first, he does that to get at me, and then at the end he says, its just a game Nancy lol

lol I loved it. I'm getting pt 2 and I'm going to enjoy it :P

i wish i could say the same :( , they adding online feature now and making it more face paced/shooter type. ima wait till i see more videos, im more excited about batman A.A. 2
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[QUOTE="Young_Charter"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] well i screamed like a lil girl, like that fat guy from accepted when they find and rent this old hospital( he was in superbad as well) my uncle creeping behind me and as soon as she poped out he yelled 'BOOOOO' right near my ear, and i screamed like a lil wuss lol damnit i knew i shouldnt have giving him the game to beat first, he does that to get at me, and then at the end he says, its just a game Nancy lol

JoKeR_421

lol I loved it. I'm getting pt 2 and I'm going to enjoy it :P

i wish i could say the same :( , they adding online feature now and making it more face paced/shooter type. ima wait till i see more videos, im more excited about batman A.A. 2

so it's going to be online co-op ?

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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="Young_Charter"] lol I loved it. I'm getting pt 2 and I'm going to enjoy it :PYoung_Charter

i wish i could say the same :( , they adding online feature now and making it more face paced/shooter type. ima wait till i see more videos, im more excited about batman A.A. 2

so it's going to be online co-op ?

i dont think they made it that clear, but no not co-op more like how bioshock 2 online is, death match, team death match, stuff like that
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="Young_Charter"]

i wish i could say the same :( , they adding online feature now and making it more face paced/shooter type. ima wait till i see more videos, im more excited about batman A.A. 2JoKeR_421
so it's going to be online co-op ?

i dont think they made it that clear, but no not co-op more like how bioshock 2 online is, death match, team death match, stuff like that

that's not cool then :? they should've went into competition with Resident Evil 5.
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]There are certain rules to horror games which must be followed in my opinion to truly be scary to me. First of all, there is no way in hell I'm going to be creeped out if I have a partner with me. Isolation is a crucial part of fear, and that feeling is seldom achieved through partners and co-operative play. *cough* Resident Evil 5 *cough* Next up, the access to tools to fight off the terrors which haunt you pretty much kills any kind of scariness the game might have otherwise had. There's no way I'm going to crap my pants if I know that I have a clip of 100 plasma rifle rounds to obliterate anything in my path. That's not to say that you should be powerless to fight off the horror, but at least make it a less-appealing path than running away or avoiding it. *cough* Dead Space *cough* Finally, some developers think it's fine to classify a game as "horror" as long as it has some cheap surprises and scares. What you need is good atmosphere for immersion. Immersion can come from many little things such as a great story, good voice acting, great use of music, proper lighting, unpredictable pacing, etc, etc. Many "horror" games nowadays find a way to screw this up by doing stupid things like cuing the same music every time an enemy is near, only fading out once everyone in the area is dead. I'm still waiting for a good horror game from this gen. That's not to say that games such as Resident Evil 5 and Dead Space are no good (they're some of my favorite PS3 titles), but rather, they're great at being action games, but fail at being good at delivering horror.1bigsmoke55

Siren Captured this. I like SURVIVAL HORROR games because i'm on my own, powerless, and not nowing what's there lying in wait.

Exactly , I agree with you both, I feel proud to have imported a blu ray copy myself.It's a gem considering how the genre is lacking this gen.

Now just to add to your comment about Siren , that's all taken to the extreme when you control a child having to hide to make it out alive , that was epic for my horror tastes.

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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="Young_Charter"] so it's going to be online co-op ?

Young_Charter

i dont think they made it that clear, but no not co-op more like how bioshock 2 online is, death match, team death match, stuff like that

that's not cool then :? they should've went into competition with Resident Evil 5.

i might have not minded if it had a co-op thing BUT not like RE5, more like ur alone and a friend can join u at anytime. like in Resistance 1 if u played that, but yea man online co-op jeez, i mean seriously not every game needs it wtf? thats why slowly im stopping supporting devs that ruin games like this

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[QUOTE="Young_Charter"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] i dont think they made it that clear, but no not co-op more like how bioshock 2 online is, death match, team death match, stuff like thatJoKeR_421

that's not cool then :? they should've went into competition with Resident Evil 5.

i mind have not minded if it had a co-op thing BUT not like RE5, more like ur alone and a friend can join u at anytime. like in Resistance 1 if u played that, but yea man online co-op jeez, i mean seriously not every game needs it wtf? thats why slowly im stopping supporting devs that ruin games like this

I know, but on E3 I believe it'll show. Hopefully if comes out this year.
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Yeah we need more - im very tired of the war FPS games. I love FPS games like bioshock and L4D but im sorta bored with ones like CoD ect.
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#28 juden41
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I don't know how many survival horror games there usually should be, but I'm glad there aren't weak spin-off versions of popular survival horror series like the other gens seemed to have (Resident Evil Dead Aim, Outbreak File 1, File 2, etc)

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Maybe their just losing popularity to FPS's. I'm can't say for sure, though I never wasa fan of survival horror.

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There's Fatal Frame but exclusive to the Wii. If we had something similar to Fatal Frame I would stop complaining for like 2 years.
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I think RE5 should be removed from your list. I liked Dead Space...
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That article could interest you, guys.

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I am sure the reason is how much the multiplayer matters for 90% of the people, who blurt out crap like "i know it's a great game, but no online, so it's a rental for me." I swear i have seen stuff like that on this forum too.Pure horror survival games like Siren and Silent Hill, well cannot have any entertaining multiplayer mode, cannot have BIG GUNs that the teenagersdrool overin order to feel badass or something, and most likely will be shunned by the critics asseen that, done than. I am as frustrated as you!

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There's a game called Afterfall: Insanity that's coming out at the beginning of next year. It looks a lot like a Dead Space ripoff, but I'll take what I can get at this point. Dead Space was an awesome game, easily the best horror/survival game I've ever played. And I'm very much looking forward to the sequel. I'm a bit worried about the added emphasis on action, but it could be done really well and be awesome. Or not. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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We need a lot more survival horror's this gen. A new IP preferably. Silent Hill will never be the same again (although Shattered Memories was pretty good - amazing story) I'd rather have a survival horror that controls well and is scary. By that I mean a control scheme which isn't clunky (pretty much every survival horror) and is actually scary (pretty much no survival horrors this gen)
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I thought condemned 2 had some freaky moments, same with the first F.E.A.R. Shame condemned 2 kept going downhill from the beginning, the apartments really freaked me out.

It sucks though we have an abundance of generic FPS's but few horror games. You'd think a developer would take advantage of this.

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That article could interest you, guys.

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looks like another Dead Space
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I wish there was more Horror games..but honestly, these developers are too lazy and they lack the brainpower to scare half of us. It'd probably come off flat and cheesy so they pass. Takes b@lls to scare us gamers, at least me.
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I wish there was more Horror games..but honestly, these developers are too lazy and they lack the brainpower to scare half of us. It'd probably come off flat and cheesy so they pass. Takes b@lls to scare us gamers, at least me.gamer082009
lol they could just make a game with hard to find ammo, dark places, batteries for light, and etc. They could make it real hard n scary
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#40 Khadaj32
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Siren Blood Curse, Dead Space (And 2 coming out), Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 5, Condemmed 2, and F.E.A.R 1 & 2. (I didn't want to add the FPS ones but oh well)...Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but If I only have one hand out on how many horror games are out, isn't that a problem ? Every now and then I want a scare or another online co-op horror game with some gore and horror goodness to it you can share with someone else. I think there should be more horror games.

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Well, I don't count RE5 as Survival Horror. RE lost their Survival Horror roots back in RE4. I want a new Clocktower game, dammit. The baddies in those games you mentioned ain't got nothin' on Scissorman!

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#41 Young_Charter
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I wish there was more Horror games..but honestly, these developers are too lazy and they lack the brainpower to scare half of us. It'd probably come off flat and cheesy so they pass. Takes b@lls to scare us gamers, at least me.gamer082009
They could make one...Real easy and simple lol
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#42 Young_Charter
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[QUOTE="gamer082009"]I wish there was more Horror games..but honestly, these developers are too lazy and they lack the brainpower to scare half of us. It'd probably come off flat and cheesy so they pass. Takes b@lls to scare us gamers, at least me.Young_Charter
They could make one...Real easy and simple lol

It's kind of funny because a new Silent hill is revealed :P