Who else wishes modern games were like classic games just enhanced?

[QUOTE="Zidaneski"]Just because there are things one would dislike about games today, would it be fair to start demeaning it and the people that made it? If I made a videogame today and I wanted to put multi-player in it would you start insulting me and what I made?soundcellx

Don't let nostalgia get the best of you. True, I do hold a soft spot for the early PS1 titles and the entire PS2 era, but games these days are progressing and advancing. A lot of games do their genre really well. Every generation has some hits and misses, but what I will say about this generation is that I'm glad that online play has become a standard. Before, it was hard for me to play multiplayer games with anyone local because most of my friends didn't play the games that I liked to play. But thanks to online gaming, I can play with people all over the US and the world. However, I still have my PS1 and PS2 and my collection of games for both, so if I feel like experiencing simpiler times, I just play them.:)

Don't let nostalgia get the best of you. True, I do hold a soft spot for the early PS1 titles and the entire PS2 era, but games these days are progressing and advancing. A lot of games do their genre really well. Every generation has some hits and misses, but what I will say about this generation is that I'm glad that online play has become a standard. Before, it was hard for me to play multiplayer games with anyone local because most of my friends didn't play the games that I liked to play. But thanks to online gaming, I can play with people all over the US and the world. However, I still have my PS1 and PS2 and my collection of games for both, so if I feel like experiencing simpiler times, I just play them.:)

Jyakotu

has nothing to do with nostalgia. games before this gen were about being games and not having all these useless gimmicks attached to them. games had meat on them back then and were focused on fun and not useless junk or dumbed down so much like the games of today.

The nostalgia argument is really really old and untrue and I am sick of that response.

has nothing to do with nostalgia. games before this gen were about being games and not having all these useless gimmicks attached to them. games had meat on them back then and were focused on fun and not useless junk or dumbed down so much like the games of today.

The nostalgia argument is really really old and untrue and I am sick of that response.

soundcellx

You also act as though FPSs weren't popular until now but they've always been popular since the mid-late 90s. As well, with modern consoles and consumer expectation, games have to reach a certain technical level and that costs much more than it did last gen. This results in companies taking less risks to make sure they get they're money back. It isn't like all of a sudden developers/publishers decided "We want ALL the moneys!!" and now everything has multiplayer thrown into it. The industry has changed and it's going to change more. That's the nature of things. If you don't like it, I don't know what to tell you besides find the games that hit what you're looking for(of which they are still many) or give it up all together.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

has nothing to do with nostalgia. games before this gen were about being games and not having all these useless gimmicks attached to them. games had meat on them back then and were focused on fun and not useless junk or dumbed down so much like the games of today.

The nostalgia argument is really really old and untrue and I am sick of that response.

anime_gamer007

Halo series

God of War series

Call of Duty

Ninja Gaiden 3

newest Socom game

Ninja Theory games

Kingdoms of Amalur

Fable series

just about any TPS or FPS

So yeh, just eradicated your argument.

why does everyone keep mentioning nastalgia anyways? what exactely does that have to do with this discussion?

[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

has nothing to do with nostalgia. games before this gen were about being games and not having all these useless gimmicks attached to them. games had meat on them back then and were focused on fun and not useless junk or dumbed down so much like the games of today.

The nostalgia argument is really really old and untrue and I am sick of that response.

soundcellx

Halo series

God of War series

Call of Duty

Ninja Gaiden 3

newest Socom game

Ninja Theory games

Kingdoms of Amalur

Fable series

just about any TPS or FPS

So yeh, just eradicated your argument.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"]Dude, you keep saying these things but provide no examples or points of evidence to back up your claim. Yeah, I'll agree with the idea that there's a trend that games are becoming MORE casualized to an extent but that doesn't include all games and even the ones that are casualized aka steamlined a bit actually end up being better. For example, it's very easy to say Skyrim was more streamlined than the previous Elder Scrolls games due to the nature of the character progression but in the end, that ended up working in it's favor. Honestly, you just come off as a raving lunatic when you throw these accusations out everywhere with no strong evidence.anime_gamer007

Halo series

God of War series

Call of Duty

Ninja Gaiden 3

newest Socom game

Ninja Theory games

Kingdoms of Amalur

Fable series

just about any TPS or FPS

So yeh, just eradicated your argument.

[QUOTE="Jyakotu"]

Don't let nostalgia get the best of you. True, I do hold a soft spot for the early PS1 titles and the entire PS2 era, but games these days are progressing and advancing. A lot of games do their genre really well. Every generation has some hits and misses, but what I will say about this generation is that I'm glad that online play has become a standard. Before, it was hard for me to play multiplayer games with anyone local because most of my friends didn't play the games that I liked to play. But thanks to online gaming, I can play with people all over the US and the world. However, I still have my PS1 and PS2 and my collection of games for both, so if I feel like experiencing simpiler times, I just play them.:)

ShangTsung17

I got to be honest, I agree. I've had my fair share of enjoying some games, but I'm literally bored of this gen. to a point I have no interest what games are coming out etc. I've been playing my PS2, with my PS3 collecting dust for months now. I had 30+ games on PS3 as I enjoy building my collection, but I've sold them all so that shows my compassion to this gen.

Kinda random here, but I was watching TV the other day, and as the commercials came on, an *interrupted bulletin* came up to tell you a special bulletin about Black Ops II was coming at a specific time (which was an hours away). Seriously, it felt like the whole world had stopped for this very important special announcement. Ridiculous.

[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]I have TONS AND TONS OF STRONG EVIDENCE

Splinter Cell Conviction

Halo series

God of War series

Call of Duty

Ninja Gaiden 3

newest Socom game

Ninja Theory games

Kingdoms of Amalur

Fable series

just about any TPS or FPS

So yeh, just eradicated your argument.

soundcellx

Epic fail. Seriously, you are just a raving troll desperate for attention.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"]That's not strong evidence, you can't just throw up a list of games and go "THERE! SEE GAMES NOWADAYS SUCK!" Why? On what ground do they suck? You're giving me nothing here and act as though you just said something enlightening. You didn't. You still have proven nothing besides the fact that you can recall games that are only kinda relevant to the discussion at hand which btw, you started. You really need to elaborate on your points because as of now, they mean nothing.

Venom_Raptor

Epic fail. Seriously, you are just a raving troll desperate for attention.

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]yes it is strong evidence. all of those games are mainstream casual junk garbage. you lose

H_M_1

Epic fail. Seriously, you are just a raving troll desperate for attention.

I always get ignored by the moderators...

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]yes it is strong evidence. all of those games are mainstream casual junk garbage. you lose

ShangTsung17

Epic fail. Seriously, you are just a raving troll desperate for attention.

Some elaboration would be appreciated. Name a classic game and help us understand why it was amazing, then we can go from there (civilized I hope). While I do like the older games there are some that were a joke back in the day where if they were released today with great graphics still would be bad games.

If you two don't like current gaming then play on an Atari or N64 or PS1 and don't play PS3 at all. If you wanna debate, bring some solid proof that this generation of gaming sucks or else don't bother at all, rather than forcing people to agree with your lame comments.H_M_1

Some elaboration would be appreciated. Name a classic game and help us understand why it was amazing, then we can go from there (civilized I hope). While I do like the older games there are some that were a joke back in the day where if they were released today with great graphics still would be bad games.

Zidaneski

NG (xbox) vs NG3. Ninja Gaiden 3, the game really plays itself. You can battle a screen full of enemies without looking and the game will automatically defeat the enemies for you.

Resident Evil (remake) vs RE5 or RE ORC. RE went from a puzzle survival horror game with creepy atmosphere to a daylight non-zombie, multiplayer poop, gun shootie game.

and yes, bad games have always existed. Just more so now than before.

This is not as simple as old vs new.Its about the state of game development.Theres good and bad old and new games.The difference is there no natural selection today.The bad isnt dying its multiplying.An industry where innovation thrived is stagnant.

"Lets do what their doing,but there doing what we are doing".Its like 2 mimes dancing.

This is not as simple as old vs new.Its about the state of game development.Theres good and bad old and new games.The difference is there no natural selection today.The bad isnt dying its multiplying.An industry where innovation thrived is stagnant.Brandon31577

Also, shooters. Instead of being able to explore and such, nowadays they're all corridor shooters with no variety. Current ones are all samey and dime a dozen.

Hope those examples work for ya.

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]If you two don't like current gaming then play on an Atari or N64 or PS1 and don't play PS3 at all. If you wanna debate, bring some solid proof that this generation of gaming sucks or else don't bother at all, rather than forcing people to agree with your lame comments.soundcellx

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]If you two don't like current gaming then play on an Atari or N64 or PS1 and don't play PS3 at all. If you wanna debate, bring some solid proof that this generation of gaming sucks or else don't bother at all, rather than forcing people to agree with your lame comments.soundcellx

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]If you two don't like current gaming then play on an Atari or N64 or PS1 and don't play PS3 at all. If you wanna debate, bring some solid proof that this generation of gaming sucks or else don't bother at all, rather than forcing people to agree with your lame comments.ShangTsung17

You've got guts to come back and yet again start name-calling if one moderation wasn't enough for you. I could respond in a nasty way to feel more satisfied, but I've learned my lesson over the past couple on years on Gamespot - clearly a lesson that you still need to learn, but undoubtably will should you continue with clear insults of other users.

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]Hey, wait a sec...you agree that current gen games are much different than games from previous gens, yet you do not think that is a valid complaint for them to be so different? So, we have to like current gen games, or we're trolls? and those who hate current gen gaming, you have to go insult them? hypocrite.

you are beyond ridiculous.

Venom_Raptor

You've got guts to come back and yet again start name-calling if one moderation wasn't enough for you. I could respond in a nasty way to feel more satisfied, but I've learned my lesson over the past couple on years on Gamespot - clearly a lesson that you still need to learn, but undoubtably will should you continue with clear insults of other users.

u all need to lighten up!ShangTsung17

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"] u all need to lighten up!MethodManFTW

[QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

Some elaboration would be appreciated. Name a classic game and help us understand why it was amazing, then we can go from there (civilized I hope). While I do like the older games there are some that were a joke back in the day where if they were released today with great graphics still would be bad games.

soundcellx

NG (xbox) vs NG3. Ninja Gaiden 3, the game really plays itself. You can battle a screen full of enemies without looking and the game will automatically defeat the enemies for you.

Resident Evil (remake) vs RE5 or RE ORC. RE went from a puzzle survival horror game with creepy atmosphere to a daylight non-zombie, multiplayer poop, gun shootie game.

and yes, bad games have always existed. Just more so now than before.

I'm not quite sre what you're getting at in your post, but I do agree with at least some of it. There are too many shooters. And platformers almost seem non-existant. And the focus does seem to be on things other then gameplay. So yes, I do wish games were more like older ones.