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..as much as I really cant stand the 360 or the wii..It looks like we have bought this generations Dreamcast. How can you be optimistic? There is now absolutley no reason at all to have a ps3 over an xbox. The xbox will now pull even further ahead which means even less 3rd party support...big titles wont even be multi-platform. There will be so few installed ps3's compared to the 360 that it would be a waste of money to develope for it at all. But hey, atleast we have blu ray players right?? .....right??oldscratch82360, Blu-ray add on for $50 confirmed! :lol:
yeah to be honest i really dont understand why are so many people sad or depressed talking like PS3 is just a box of crap Sorry guys but i CANNOT UNDERSTAND!!!. Im tremendously happy that im going to have a PS3 in the next month, think for a second dudes, you can play a looot of awesome games exclusive or not exclusive like : MGS4, DMC4,Uncharted,Folklore,Resistance,motor storm, Ninja gaiden S and soon to be on the console : Resistance 2, Final fantasy Versus 13, Final fantasy 13, GOW3, Far cry 2, Bioshock, Killzone 2, Little big planet (that honestly looked a lot of fun) and so many other great games. Comon Guys cheer up We have so many great games, the 360 has many great games too.
and for those who still needs to someone wipe out his tears WE HAVE MGS4 !!! dont forget it !!
peace c ya all.
[QUOTE="codalloo"][QUOTE="odin2019"]exactly, i like your thinking, lets be friends[QUOTE="codalloo"][QUOTE="fmobliv06"]i don't understand the assumption that Sony fans were dissapointed with the press conference. i thought it was great. so FFXIII isn't exclusive. it's not the end of the world. the PS3 still has a ton more exclusives lined up this year than the 360 does, anyway.odin2019
Its beyond me how anyone could accept the press conference as good. Yeah you don't expect to hear bad things during a companies press conference and you never do (like increasing the price of a console). But when a company doesn't have any good news then there is a reason to be upset and when it is like this every year and MS at least brings something to the table whether it be stealing an exclusive game or creating free DLC for a game or an exclusive beta or whatever it is at least they bring something to the table which sony doesn't seem to understand this.
sorry, but how can a multitude of new games and a bunch of info on games we already knew were coming out be misconstrued as no good newsWhat new games? What remakes of insomniac games. Resistance 2 we have seen. I didn't hear any new info on games at all. Its like we didn't watch the same thing.
Well MAG was announced but hey that's unimportant, only 256 players battling at the same time...I make no apology that I'm a Sony fan. I've always liked their hardware and the games are there. I have both systems, so the announcement yesterday that FFXIII going muti-platform doesn't bother me, but less and less are on one console. Look at BioShock. We're getting that in October. I think Sony and MS are going to have to publish their own games to be exclusive. Most third parties are wanting to cash in as much as possible with multi-platform titles.
What Sony keeps preaching is the future and I really think they're right. I think in the next year or two, the games that will ship to the PS3 will be impossible to make on the 360. Look at MGS4. I don't think you could see the same game on the 360. Killzone 2. From what I've seen, it would be a hard push.
Don't get me wrong, the 360 has some great games. But from what I've seen, Sony has more going for it now and in the future.
Ps. I don't think they (MS) has FFXIII vs. and IMO, it looks like the better game. LOL
lol on the faith part. The whole idea of "faith" in a gaming industry is why fanboys and troll were born to begin with. With that said, i always liked sony's products and still do. FF13 is no big deal, yes i said it, and no i'm not crazy, in fact i'm very sane. Fanboys survived GTA4 and DMC4, they will survive ff13. My only concern, and i'm aware this is really off topic, but i think ff13 isn't going to be all that great, not because of it going multi (well it is gonna fit a dvd disk, so that speaks of something), but because SE hasn't delivered in a long while; since FFX and kh2 imho. Plus the ps3 is getting bioshock in october (all renewed, with extra content, and maybe even online.) and that was game of the year, so let's not go crazy here. the future is very bright, and guess what you still get to play ff13 o nthe ps3. RakuhoHaha, yah the "faith" part was just for show
yeah to be honest i really dont understand why are so many people sad or depressed talking like PS3 is just a box of crap Sorry guys but i CANNOT UNDERSTAND!!!. Im tremendously happy that im going to have a PS3 in the next month, think for a second dudes, you can play a looot of awesome games exclusive or not exclusive like : MGS4, DMC4,Uncharted,Folklore,Resistance,motor storm, Ninja gaiden S and soon to be on the console : Resistance 2, Final fantasy Versus 13, Final fantasy 13, GOW3, Far cry 2, Bioshock, Killzone 2, Little big planet (that honestly looked a lot of fun) and so many other great games. Comon Guys cheer up We have so many great games, the 360 has many great games too.
and for those who still needs to someone wipe out his tears WE HAVE MGS4 !!! dont forget it !!
peace c ya all.
dantesergei
Yeah, i tend to notce all the doom and gloom people are fairly new, or old bot accounts. Most people who have followed this for awhile have seen things like this happen and it is just par for the course. We did NOT get this gens dreamcast, ps3 is actually outselling 360 this year, and not just the weeks in which MGS4 was released. Additionally, PS3 has essentially the same install base in europe and a huge advantage in Japan. Just in the US does the 360 have a big advantage.
And America is not the center of the world, regardless of what our politicians try to tell us :)
*edit* Before i get flamed, i am American, I live in California.
Yah Versus looks awesome, from the creators of Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children? I'm sold.I make no apology that I'm a Sony fan. I've always liked their hardware and the games are there. I have both systems, so the announcement yesterday that FFXIII going muti-platform doesn't bother me, but less and less are on one console. Look at BioShock. We're getting that in October. I think Sony and MS are going to have to publish their own games to be exclusive. Most third parties are wanting to cash in as much as possible with multi-platform titles.
What Sony keeps preaching is the future and I really think they're right. I think in the next year or two, the games that will ship to the PS3 will be impossible to make on the 360. Look at MGS4. I don't think you could see the same game on the 360. Killzone 2. From what I've seen, it would be a hard push.
Don't get me wrong, the 360 has some great games. But from what I've seen, Sony has more going for it now and in the future.
Ps. I don't think they (MS) has FFXIII vs. and IMO, it looks like the better game. LOL
rbal782
[QUOTE="oldscratch82"]..as much as I really cant stand the 360 or the wii..It looks like we have bought this generations Dreamcast. How can you be optimistic? There is now absolutley no reason at all to have a ps3 over an xbox. The xbox will now pull even further ahead which means even less 3rd party support...big titles wont even be multi-platform. There will be so few installed ps3's compared to the 360 that it would be a waste of money to develope for it at all. But hey, atleast we have blu ray players right?? .....right??Symphonycometh360, Blu-ray add on for $50 confirmed! :lol:
No F-ing way..tell me your kidding..I'm minutes away from gamestopping my ps3..
Is this true?
Look at it this way....at least it's not Nintendo. Was I the only one who thought all those people playing thier little wii motes looked painfully embarassing. I stopped buying Nintendo hardware after the Gamecube. Thats the last time Nintendo will burn me. A few third party games here and there....and 14 million variations of mario, or things aimed at the casual crowd. Seriously...the only game I had on Gamecube was RE4. My wife had Mario Golf, Mario Kart and some other Mario game I can't remember. When Fils-Aime made the comment during his presentation of the Wii being called a "Fad" I was trying to figure out if he was trying to convince himself or the audience that it wasn't. Wii is as much of a fad as Rob the Robot on the NES, as soon as the neat little gizmo newness wears off...your left with whats there....a casual players console with an average user age of 8. Nintendo just spit in the faces of all the "Core Gamer" adopters of thier console...your big news?, Animal Crossing...are you f'n kidding me? That was thier highlight? Hope they at least rinsed with mouthwash before they spit on the core gamers faces so it at least felt less disgusting. But since Nintendo is making so much cash in the casual market they probably don't care to dance with the ones who brought them. Expect it to get worse as third party developers abandoned the platform because the Casual Gamers the Wii appeals to doesn't buy First Person Shooters, Fighting, etc. etc. etc.
On the PS3 front, I won't say I was disappointed, but I wasn't wowed either. They had about what was expected minus new Killzone stuff (weird, that). If they knew FFXIII was going multi they really shoulda worked to pull out the magic rabbit, and chances are they knew when Square Enix made the decision. So the fact that they didn't do something to counter Microsofts bombshell is laziness. Lets not forget, however, that Final Fantasy actually started with Nintendo, I'm sure just as many people were disgruntled when Square Enix went PS1 exclusive instead of Nintendo 64. I don't blame companies for making smart business decisions. If Square can make more money and have a larger production budget on the next game, fantastic, we all win. Who wins if Square starts posting losses because there's not a large enough installed player base, no one. Here's some trivia for you, Square almost went out of business already in the 8 bit era, there's a reason why FINAL Fantasy has that name. Square bet thier last dollar on Final Fantasy and lucky for us all, they bet on the right one.
On the Microsoft front, didn't watch it....didn't even know E3 was going on till last night and had already missed it lol. I bought a 360 shortly after release, and sold it shortly after I got my PS3. It wasn't because I liked the PS3 better, it was because it hard locked while playing Halo 3 with friends one night. From where I was sitting that night I couldn't see the console, but my heart sank as I stood up to see if I had a Red Ring. Luckily I didn't, but I sold it before I did. I always planned to buy another 360 and still do once they are a little more reliable. Mine also didn't have HDMI...and to say I was disappointed with the picture when I went and bought an HDTV is an understatement. I liked my 360, I like my PS3. I'll buy another 360. I despise Nintendo. Lets not forget that Microsoft is first and foremost a PC based company...so far all the biggies on the 360 have been ported, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo(s), so we can probably expect that trend to continue. Even without a 360 I've still been able to play the "Big Exclusives".
the reason im upset was because when ffXIII was released i wanted to wave it in front of the xbox 360 owners face!!!!! but we cant do that anymore.
anyway i was lokking into ffXIII versus cause it looks so sick!!!!1 and plus its being made by the people who made kingdom hearts and that my fave series!!! lol
360, Blu-ray add on for $50 confirmed! :lol:[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="oldscratch82"]..as much as I really cant stand the 360 or the wii..It looks like we have bought this generations Dreamcast. How can you be optimistic? There is now absolutley no reason at all to have a ps3 over an xbox. The xbox will now pull even further ahead which means even less 3rd party support...big titles wont even be multi-platform. There will be so few installed ps3's compared to the 360 that it would be a waste of money to develope for it at all. But hey, atleast we have blu ray players right?? .....right??oldscratch82
No F-ing way..tell me your kidding..I'm minutes away from gamestopping my ps3..
Is this true?
I'm joking man! XD :P Sorry for that.exactly, i like your thinking, lets be friends[QUOTE="codalloo"][QUOTE="fmobliv06"]i don't understand the assumption that Sony fans were dissapointed with the press conference. i thought it was great. so FFXIII isn't exclusive. it's not the end of the world. the PS3 still has a ton more exclusives lined up this year than the 360 does, anyway.odin2019
Its beyond me how anyone could accept the press conference as good. Yeah you don't expect to hear bad things during a companies press conference and you never do (like increasing the price of a console). But when a company doesn't have any good news then there is a reason to be upset and when it is like this every year and MS at least brings something to the table whether it be stealing an exclusive game or creating free DLC for a game or an exclusive beta or whatever it is at least they bring something to the table which sony doesn't seem to understand this.
There can be good and bad conference. Ask nintendo hardcore players what they think about the wii now. I'm sure most logical one would feel left out. I think there are too many casual game on the wii. Yes there is alots of casual gamers, but hardcore gamers buys the most softwares IMO. Heck Hardcore Gamers is the reason why the big three are where they are not casual. And Nintendo advertise Animal Crossing as a hardcore game. :shock:
Microsoft didn't steal an exclusive, because it still coming on the PS3. Technically they just will be sharing the same game with Sony. Square Enix just made a business move and it just rub folks the wrong way. I must have miss the free DLC for game part cause only demos and some trailers are free on the xbox and hopefully the interface stuff in the fall will be free. Or I'm not changing mine. I seriuosly doubt I'll be DL the gta 4 episode, cause I seriously hate the trend of paying for something that should have been in the game in the first place. Plus I don't play it much anymore. I just wish MS had more new exclusive games to talk about instead of those casual and repetitive shooting games. But I'm excited for the the exclusive Square Enix Rpg cause I'm about tired of shooters and First Person only games. I was bored of MS "PC" cause it lack alot of excitement. Only thing I'm looking forward to is the new interface and Fallout 3 and maybe geometry war 2.
Now Sony on the other hand got my interest with all the game trailers, demo, greatest hit, new IPs especially M.A.G, Little Big Planet, PSP & PS3 interactions and etc. Sony didn't base their conference on big two game like MS. (Gear of War and announcement of FF13.) I might not own a PS3 now but that why I love sony because they have varieties and bold to make new IPs on their own. Look forward to owning one asap.
..as much as I really cant stand the 360 or the wii..It looks like we have bought this generations Dreamcast. How can you be optimistic? There is now absolutley no reason at all to have a ps3 over an xbox. The xbox will now pull even further ahead which means even less 3rd party support...big titles wont even be multi-platform. There will be so few installed ps3's compared to the 360 that it would be a waste of money to develope for it at all. But hey, atleast we have blu ray players right?? .....right??oldscratch82
360 is "just" hot in the "U.S." and cooled down alot since "Halo." That why all the sudden japanese RPG are being annouced so they can sell in Japan and attract some more US customers. Which it isn't worth talking about how things going there. PS3 is gaining on the Xbox 360 which had a "year" headstart. It's doing great worlwide. Yes it not number 1 in hardcore gaming yet but they aren't far. There will be multi plat cause it help gain more money for a struglling company to do that unless the game suck. I'm wondering what will sell systems for xbox once GeOW storyline end and Bungie is gone from MS and can't depend on halo for long. Plus unlike the other companies Sony Ps2 "Still" doing great and the profit they make from that is helping Sony with the bills of PS3. So great that they stop putting the ps2 sale up against wii and xbox 360 sale. Even though it been out for a while the moment both the wii and xbox 360 cam out it still outsold them both. It very unlikely that sony is doomed cause of the foundation they have of previous consoles and still supporting them. As well as the future games trying to top MGS4 and Uncharted. Now that some high standard for followers to try to surpass. Now that nore than enough reason to not give up on PS3.
I know I do. With the announcement of FF13 going multiplat sure, Sony may have lost one of theire biggest exclusives but were still getting it, it's not the end of the world and I dont understand how some people can be reacting so negatively and becoming so depressed over a video game, it doesnt make sense to me but after Sony's press conference today my excitement and faith in Sony has been renewed.codalloo
Sony still got Bioshock. also ,other FF13, 360 doesnt have a thing. Fable 2 and gears 2 will be old news fast.
uncharted 2..?did u just make that up? i didnt see that.I guess people are worried Sony will lose more 3rd party support in the future.
I think people are still in shock and not really appreciating what we got to see. We know that GOW3 is in the works which is awesome, and I thought MAG looked very interesting too. Same goes for Infamous.
With Infamous, LBP, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, GOW3, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, FFXIII versus and probably more, PS3 still has some awesome exclusives. And with a plethora of multiplays aswell, PS3 is still a sweet system to own.
ejstrup
I do, I do.
They gave a good presentation, not saying it was the best or not, it was good. Noone thus far has been spectacular. SOny held their own. Some gamers are bitter overthe FF13 thing, it's about the money, it ain't funny.We still have and there is another version tht is still PS3 exclusive.
I do, I do.
They gave a good presentation, not saying it was the best or not, it was good. Noone thus far has been spectacular. SOny held their own. Some gamers are bitter overthe FF13 thing, it's about the money, it ain't funny.We still have and there is another version tht is still PS3 exclusive.
itwiz90
do u guys still believe ff13 vs will still be exclusive wait till M$ gets their hands on it just wait
Look at it this way....at least it's not Nintendo. Was I the only one who thought all those people playing thier little wii motes looked painfully embarassing. I stopped buying Nintendo hardware after the Gamecube. Thats the last time Nintendo will burn me. A few third party games here and there....and 14 million variations of mario, or things aimed at the casual crowd. Seriously...the only game I had on Gamecube was RE4. My wife had Mario Golf, Mario Kart and some other Mario game I can't remember. When Fils-Aime made the comment during his presentation of the Wii being called a "Fad" I was trying to figure out if he was trying to convince himself or the audience that it wasn't. Wii is as much of a fad as Rob the Robot on the NES, as soon as the neat little gizmo newness wears off...your left with whats there....a casual players console with an average user age of 8. Nintendo just spit in the faces of all the "Core Gamer" adopters of thier console...your big news?, Animal Crossing...are you f'n kidding me? That was thier highlight? Hope they at least rinsed with mouthwash before they spit on the core gamers faces so it at least felt less disgusting. But since Nintendo is making so much cash in the casual market they probably don't care to dance with the ones who brought them. Expect it to get worse as third party developers abandoned the platform because the Casual Gamers the Wii appeals to doesn't buy First Person Shooters, Fighting, etc. etc. etc.
On the PS3 front, I won't say I was disappointed, but I wasn't wowed either. They had about what was expected minus new Killzone stuff (weird, that). If they knew FFXIII was going multi they really shoulda worked to pull out the magic rabbit, and chances are they knew when Square Enix made the decision. So the fact that they didn't do something to counter Microsofts bombshell is laziness. Lets not forget, however, that Final Fantasy actually started with Nintendo, I'm sure just as many people were disgruntled when Square Enix went PS1 exclusive instead of Nintendo 64. I don't blame companies for making smart business decisions. If Square can make more money and have a larger production budget on the next game, fantastic, we all win. Who wins if Square starts posting losses because there's not a large enough installed player base, no one. Here's some trivia for you, Square almost went out of business already in the 8 bit era, there's a reason why FINAL Fantasy has that name. Square bet thier last dollar on Final Fantasy and lucky for us all, they bet on the right one.
On the Microsoft front, didn't watch it....didn't even know E3 was going on till last night and had already missed it lol. I bought a 360 shortly after release, and sold it shortly after I got my PS3. It wasn't because I liked the PS3 better, it was because it hard locked while playing Halo 3 with friends one night. From where I was sitting that night I couldn't see the console, but my heart sank as I stood up to see if I had a Red Ring. Luckily I didn't, but I sold it before I did. I always planned to buy another 360 and still do once they are a little more reliable. Mine also didn't have HDMI...and to say I was disappointed with the picture when I went and bought an HDTV is an understatement. I liked my 360, I like my PS3. I'll buy another 360. I despise Nintendo. Lets not forget that Microsoft is first and foremost a PC based company...so far all the biggies on the 360 have been ported, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo(s), so we can probably expect that trend to continue. Even without a 360 I've still been able to play the "Big Exclusives".
coldreboot
Yeah man i'm with you 110%...Nintendo has fallen by the waste side. To be honest I'm a hardcore 360 player. But I'm still behind sony because they have made games that just beat out microsoft. There is no way around it and i'm not afraid to admit it. They both have there high points. But nintendo....*shakes head* shame shame...
meh? they could give all their 3rd party exlusives away, you know why?i came for the playstation experience, not some f**king nickel & diming me like other company, lemmings talk about us being cows? they're wallets are the ones being milked lol.T3h_M3tal_Biggz
clever:D
Here it is from my point of view. I grew up listening to walkmans, I grew up with PS1. I grew up with Sony. Anytime I've had a problem with their products, they have helped me get through it. Any game I've highly anticipated, they have delivered on. Any game I am really interested in is for PS3 or multi-platform. I have faith in Sony. They have rarely let me down. Microsoft lets me down on a regular basis. They are just about making money. At least Sony cares about their customers a little. Feeling like a friend, and feeling like a number is the difference between Microsoft and Sony. I still like Sony.
NINTENDO FAN HERE!!
After watching Nintendo's dismal presentation, all I have to say is thank God I have my PS3! I was actually impressed by their conference. They didn't STEAL things like MS (Mii's and FFXIII), and they actually had games that I cared about (unlike Nintendo...). I think I may be most excited by Little Big Planet. The way they did all the sales data was really impressive. MAG also looked amazing. I don't own a PSP but I think I might have to ask for one this holiday because it seems like it would be pretty nice to have.
Overall, I think Sony did a good job doing their thing today. Better than SOME people...*cough* Nintendo *cough*
I guess people are worried Sony will lose more 3rd party support in the future.
I think people are still in shock and not really appreciating what we got to see. We know that GOW3 is in the works which is awesome, and I thought MAG looked very interesting too. Same goes for Infamous.
With Infamous, LBP, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, GOW3, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, FFXIII versus and probably more, PS3 still has some awesome exclusives. And with a plethora of multiplays aswell, PS3 is still a sweet system to own.
ejstrup
All of the exclusives that the PS3 has up and coming makes the 360's collection of... THREE (Fable 2, Gears, and Halo Wars) look like nothing.
Yeah I still have faith in Sony. I got my PS3 back in March and have loved it since the day I loaded up Uncharted. They get it right every console they do.
And the reason the 360 never appealed to me? Probably the most stupid of reasons but here it is...I don't like the controllers. They're too big and clunky. But please don't take this as bashing, its just my personal opinion of them.
TheCraving
same here dude !
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