Why are people so *excited* about jets in BF3

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#1 BilbeauLaggins
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I've wondered this since they announced that there would be jets in the MP matches. People are acting they're never been fighter jets in multiplayer video games before. This concept isn't new and has been done better in games like HAWX, IL2, Ace Combat, etc.

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#2 Reptylus
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has been done better in games like HAWX, IL2, Ace Combat, etc.

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I wouldn't say this because these games are focused on aerial combat. Battlefield is a ground combat game with air support. I agree though that the hype about the jets was a bit much. Nice addition, but not great I thought. Especially since I played the game and realized that the jets are the most useless machines in there.
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#3 MC-Reap
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"BECUZ ITZ BATTELFEELD THREE, MAN!!1"

^^Pretty much this.

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#4 BilbeauLaggins
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[QUOTE="placebeau1"]

has been done better in games like HAWX, IL2, Ace Combat, etc.

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I wouldn't say this because these games are focused on aerial combat. Battlefield is a ground combat game with air support. I agree though that the hype about the jets was a bit much. Nice addition, but not great I thought. Especially since I played the game and realized that the jets are the most useless machines in there.

HAWX 2 has ground warfare elements in the MP matches, but I digress. What makes them useless in MP? They struck as the kind of thing everyone would try to run to at first, and it would be blown up by some moron who didn't get it. Or, if someone were able to get it in the air, they'd just fly it around and around like a fool instead of trying to use it to help the team win. Not so much a useful tool as an attractive nuisance.
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#5 BilbeauLaggins
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"BECUZ ITZ BATTELFEELD THREE, MAN!!1"

^^Pretty much this.

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#6 BibiMaghoo
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because its a return to true form. The PC battlefield games have had jets in them before, but they were removed for the PC and console versions of the bad company games. Fans of the series missed it, so are 'excited' it has returned. From my point of view, the only BF i played with jets was 2. And, they were REALLY difficult to fly. I dont see it being any different on BF3, I would imagine they are still hard to fly, so many wont use them at all.
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[QUOTE="MC-Reap"]

"BECUZ ITZ BATTELFEELD THREE, MAN!!1"

^^Pretty much this.

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#8 MrBlobz
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I have to be honest, jets look pretty pointless for most things. I want the mortar. that thing is OP
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#9 BilbeauLaggins
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[QUOTE="placebeau1"][QUOTE="MC-Reap"]

"BECUZ ITZ BATTELFEELD THREE, MAN!!1"

^^Pretty much this.

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You and me both brother. I was hoping they could close it out last night, but alas, no dice. No...tonight's the night! Zooey's a WIN any way you slice it.
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#10 -ArchAngeL-777-
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You've got to play BF2 or BF3 on the maps with jets to figure that out. The dimension it adds to the warfare in the game cannot be understated, even if your on the ground.
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I didn't know HAWX or Ace Combat were first person shooters. No really, it brings a different element to first person shooters. That's what battlefield is all about. You can hop in and out of vehicles at will. That being said I'm not really impressed with the jets in the game, and somehow I don't like the way the tanks and helicopters feel in this game compared to BFBC2. The jets seem almost useless to me since you can't take out any ground targets. I notice there are additional perks which grant you homing missle and rockets, so maybe those will allow me to finally take out players on the ground. But at the start it's almost completely useless, and it's so hard to get any points at all in a jet I wonder how long it takes before you can finally get rockets and guided missles (assuming guided is some kind of air-to-ground missle). The helicopters in the game also kind of suck if you don't have flares. On the other hand once you get flares then you can only be taken down by 2 or 3 people using locked on missles - I shot like 6 straight heatseekers at a guy and he used the flares to countermeasure every single one. Ridiculous.
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#12 2Chalupas
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You've got to play BF2 or BF3 on the maps with jets to figure that out. The dimension it adds to the warfare in the game cannot be understated, even if your on the ground. -ArchAngeL-777-

What can you do with a jet?

I have literally not been killed by a jet. Not even 1 time. On the ohter hand when I'm in a jet I don't get any kills either, the only thing I've done is take down 1 chopper but the guy bailed out before I got credit for it. I bet that guy I shot down was like me and didn't even have the flare perk on the chopper yet, if he had flares then I probably wouldn't have even gotten a hit on him...So basically in the few games I end up just flying circles around the map and if I waste too much time it pretty much ensures me of finishing last place in the game.

As far as ground targets, I come in as low and slow as the jet can allows and strafe the whole area around the MCOM's with machine guns... nothing. I think I saw a "kill assist" once but that's about it. It's so bad I'm just pressing select hoping I can get a couple of "spot assist" points so my jet can level up faster. It's really sad.

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#13 JohnF111
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I'd say it's because they are in battlefield this time, you know a game not designed for air combat?

I love the idea of games reaching out to different dimensions and i hope it continues, i want a FPS that can be played in a RTS style or air combat style... That would be a killer way to play a game by choosing the way you want to.

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#14 lordlunch2
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I have seen some skilled dudes rape people on the ground with them, but rarely. They probably could have been left out of multiplayer altogether....but then again when I'm losing it's fun to fly around and look pimp hoping my bullets hit something :)
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#15 jsmoke03
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and this is the reason im staying away from bf3 at launch. i hate fps with vehicles...bf3 might be ore of an authentic experience, but its not like im trying to play these types of games seriously

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#16 kinglouisxvii
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Heres the thing, Jets in BF3 is cool b/c it adds another element to the wonder of teamwork.

Heres the problem with that, despite BF3 being a teamwork focused game (I'd say theres a lot more teamwork online in BF then COD) the jets are only cool and useful when used by someone who knows how and in concert with other forces.

Because of the excitement to just fly a jet, there will be tons of people just running to the jet again and again everytime they respawn, completely ignoring the team. And once someone finally gets up in the air, they'll just fly round and round for fun instead of actually helping because of how hard it was just to get airborne

I remember playing Pearl Harbor in Battlefield 1942 and sometimes whether a team won or not depended on whether the other side was just playing "fly round in the plane" instead of the game.

Being someone who had to deal with Horde Always beating Alliance in WoW I really despise people who run off solo when the premise of the game you are about to play is TEAMWORK.

I've been stuck playing my nephew and his pre-pubescent friends in COD: Black OPs for too long :P

Having said all that, I just got my copy of BF3 and if I'm looking to join up with a team. (I live in EST and I'm a Nite-Owl)

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#17 Reptylus
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Such a long text about teamwork but not one suggestion how that teamwork is supposed to look like. There's not much I can do with the jet besides spotting enemies and shooting into their positions. I'm starting to get the hang of it (I managed to destroy two tanks with an A-10 yesterday) but until I unlocked the guided air-to-ground-missiles I'll still always choose the Viper first. And even after that I'd still say that the double-seated helicopter is more effective. But maybe that's the reason for the jets: Having additional aircrafts without having additional helicopter overkill.
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#18 jsmoke03
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teamwork can be done in any shooting game. clans seem to do that a lot. i see just as much individual play on battlefield as i do on cod. the only difference is bf tries to force you down that path