Why do some gamers say Ninja gaiden sigma is a remake

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#1 SolidSnake2020
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Of a remake, do they know what is a remake? people seem to think that ninja gaiden black is a remake while in-fact it is the same game just with a new difficulty level and add the online pack to it.

Now these are remakes:

Metal gear solid (PS)>>>> Metal gear solid: twin snake ( GC )

Resident evil ( PS )>>>> Resident evil remake ( GC )

And Ninja gaiden/ black >>> Ninja gaiden sigma is the first remake.

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#2 814StopsToday
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So you're sayin Black was like Apocolypse Now Redux, just no-where near as mind meltingly aweseome?
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#3 KurupSoldr
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Of a remake, do they know what is a remake? people seem to think that ninja gaiden black is a remake while in-fact it is the same game just with a new difficulty level and add the online pack to it.

Now these are remakes:

Metal gear solid (PS)>>>> Metal gear solid: twin snake ( GC )

Resident evil ( PS )>>>> Resident evil remake ( GC )

And Ninja gaiden/ black >>> Ninja gaiden sigma is the first remake.

SolidSnake2020

well you just saidit sigma is a remake so whaTS THE point here

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#5 SolidSnake2020
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[QUOTE="KurupSoldr"][QUOTE="SolidSnake2020"]

Of a remake, do they know what is a remake? people seem to think that ninja gaiden black is a remake while in-fact it is the same game just with a new difficulty level and add the online pack to it.

Now these are remakes:

Metal gear solid (PS)>>>> Metal gear solid: twin snake ( GC )

Resident evil ( PS )>>>> Resident evil remake ( GC )

And Ninja gaiden/ black >>> Ninja gaiden sigma is the first remake.

SolidSnake2020

well you just saidit sigma is a remake so whaTS THE point here

Did you read my post WHY DO SOME GAMERS SAY IT IS A REMAKE OF A REMAKE? is that better?

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#6 agrippi
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please let this thread die.
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#7 acidBURN1942
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Actually Sigma is a re-release just like Black was. Resident Evil 4 was released on GC, then PS2, then Wii. Those are all re-releases not remakes, just like Nija Gaiden with Black and Sigma.
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#8 Nene33
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Actually Sigma is a re-release just like Black was. Resident Evil 4 was released on GC, then PS2, then Wii. Those are all re-releases not remakes, just like Nija Gaiden with Black and Sigma. acidBURN1942

No, Sigma is a re-make they used parts of the Original and from Black, and remade the game, with all the improvements the Blu-ray and the new hardware makes available.

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#9 acidBURN1942
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[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Actually Sigma is a re-release just like Black was. Resident Evil 4 was released on GC, then PS2, then Wii. Those are all re-releases not remakes, just like Nija Gaiden with Black and Sigma. Nene33

No, Sigma is a re-make they used parts of the Original and from Black, and remade the game, with all the improvements the Blu-ray and the new hardware makes available.

Just cus they have more content doesnt make it a remake, the graphics are exactly the same. Might be a tinsy bit better, but the assets are all teh same still, its a re-release not a reMAKE, they didnt RE MAKE anything just re RELEASED it with a little better content.
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#11 cloud_afg
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I disagree with the above poster
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#12 Kaine666_2
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Got to admit it has fantastic graphics and it runs flawlessly

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#13 osirisomeomi
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Well Ninja Gaiden sigma IS a remake of a different game. New content, grapics and game tweaking have been added, but it is basically the same game. More than a port, less than a new game.
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#14 skirlnik
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Remember: It is important to split a hair as finely as possible.

Be sure to put a lot of stock in the opinions of others. While you're at it, be sure to use your opinion to cast aspersion on that of another.

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#15 DARKCHOAS
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I'm just about to RE-yawn at these ri-diculous re-dundant re-sponses. Who re-ally cares?
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#16 longhorn7
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[QUOTE="Nene33"]

[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Actually Sigma is a re-release just like Black was. Resident Evil 4 was released on GC, then PS2, then Wii. Those are all re-releases not remakes, just like Nija Gaiden with Black and Sigma. acidBURN1942

No, Sigma is a re-make they used parts of the Original and from Black, and remade the game, with all the improvements the Blu-ray and the new hardware makes available.

Just cus they have more content doesnt make it a remake, the graphics are exactly the same. Might be a tinsy bit better, but the assets are all teh same still, its a re-release not a reMAKE, they didnt RE MAKE anything just re RELEASED it with a little better content.

if you think the graphics are exactly the same either you: havent played the original or black in a very very long time, or are either blind,ignorant,a troll, etc. etc.
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#17 Nene33
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[QUOTE="Nene33"]

[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Actually Sigma is a re-release just like Black was. Resident Evil 4 was released on GC, then PS2, then Wii. Those are all re-releases not remakes, just like Nija Gaiden with Black and Sigma. acidBURN1942

No, Sigma is a re-make they used parts of the Original and from Black, and remade the game, with all the improvements the Blu-ray and the new hardware makes available.

Just cus they have more content doesnt make it a remake, the graphics are exactly the same. Might be a tinsy bit better, but the assets are all teh same still, its a re-release not a reMAKE, they didnt RE MAKE anything just re RELEASED it with a little better content.

They redone the whole game, read the interviews, the basis is the same(storyline and in-game design), but they rebuild the entire game.

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#18 Absynthetic
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because it is a remake

you should play Black and Sigma first before saying its not a remake

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#19 Groove60
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the graphics are exactly the sameacidBURN1942

Yeah, I stopped reading your post there...

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#20 acidBURN1942
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I have played both Ninja Gaiden and Nija Gaiden Black on the XBOX. All im saying is that this is not a remake. The gameplay is EXACTLY the same (few tweaks but nothing that changes the core gameplay mecahnics), and the graphics arepretty much teh same. Sure it uses teh power of the PS3 to add better lighting effects and touchitup some, but its still the same god damn game, therefore not remake, but a re-release. now Rygar is a remake, spy hunter is a remake, the first ninja gaiden on xbox could be considered a remake. not nija gaidensigma though.

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#21 -DirtySanchez-
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please let this thread die.agrippi
indeed
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#22 ems3y
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just be quiet and move on with your life.
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#23 acidBURN1942
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just be quiet and move on with your life. ems3y
[QUOTE="agrippi"]please let this thread die.-DirtySanchez-
indeed

how bout you just let people discuss whatever they want to and not post in the thread unless your constructively contributing.
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#24 Videodogg
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Of course its a remake. Sure the textures are redone, but the core game-play and engine are exactly the same as the old games, save for a few minor game-play tweaks. It was always a great game, now it just looks prettier. Oh by the way, blu ray has absolutely nothing to do with this game.
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#25 acidBURN1942
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Of course its a remake. Sure the textures are redone, but the core game-play and engine are exactly the same as the old games, save for a few minor game-play tweaks. It was always a great game, now it just looks prettier. Oh by the way, blu ray has absolutely nothing to do with this game. Videodogg
if teh core-gameplay and engine are exactly the same it is not a remake....its a re-release.
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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]Of course its a remake. Sure the textures are redone, but the core game-play and engine are exactly the same as the old games, save for a few minor game-play tweaks. It was always a great game, now it just looks prettier. Oh by the way, blu ray has absolutely nothing to do with this game. acidBURN1942
if teh core-gameplay and engine are exactly the same it is not a remake....its a re-release.

Ah, its a re-release with remade textures.....i think we found a winner.

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#27 tootergray34
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who cares i don't plan on buying anyways.
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#28 namcoman67
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its a remake the graphics were rebuilt and they added new content.
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#29 namcoman67
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it is not a port they didnt just copy the XBOX version added new content said there. they rebuilt the whole game with a new graphics engine. i seen Ninja Gaiden Black it doesnt look as good at Ninja Gaiden Sigma. now Resident Evil 4 for the WII and PS2 are ports.
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#30 nirvanna
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Is the final version of a game the remake of the beta version of the game??? i tihnk not. So how can ninja Gaiden sigma be a remake of ninja gaiden? It is not a remade version of ninja gaiden from the xbox. It is a polished version with ps3 graphics.
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#31 acidBURN1942
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Is the final version of a game the remake of the beta version of the game??? i tihnk not. So how can ninja Gaiden sigma be a remake of ninja gaiden? It is not a remade version of ninja gaiden from the xbox. It is a polished version with ps3 graphics.nirvanna
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#32 namcoman67
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a beta is a working version of a game. they often use the same graphics engine so its just a early state. Port equals a copied version
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#33 ApocaLypse805
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its a remake /Thread
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#34 Strife037
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the ps3 version is a remake
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#35 cannibal127-9
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Hmmm... It's not a port... Err. direct port. And the graphics are re-dun, with new levels... a new character, and new cinema's to spice up the story.... Yeah, that sounds like a remake to me.
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#36 godamus187
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Cuz it is!!
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#37 ocelotcougar
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THIS is a remake, Black was not. This had a whole overhaul.
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#38 acidBURN1942
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Its not a remake, listen ok. We play video GAMES, wahts the most important aspect of video games? the GAMEPLAY, now for a game to be remade the gameplay MUST change. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is the same gameplay since Ninja Gaiden on the XBOX, not a reMAKE, a reRELEASE
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#39 Foppe
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Black was a upgraded version.
Sigma is a remake as much as Twin Snakes is.

So please tell me how Twin Snakes are a remake but not Sigma. It´s just on a new system with some graphics changed. The BASIC story are the same. Exactly as Sigma.

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#40 longhorn7
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Black was a upgraded version.
Sigma is a remake as much as Twin Snakes is.

So please tell me how Twin Snakes are a remake but not Sigma. It´s just on a new system with some graphics changed. The BASIC story are the same. Exactly as Sigma.

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#41 acidBURN1942
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Black was a upgraded version.
Sigma is a remake as much as Twin Snakes is.

So please tell me how Twin Snakes are a remake but not Sigma. It´s just on a new system with some graphics changed. The BASIC story are the same. Exactly as Sigma.

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But MGS to MGS Twin Snakes was a HUGE graphical leap, they didnt use any of teh same assets except for audio which even then I think they revamped a bit. It made MGS more of what it was, an emotional story showed off in amazing cinematography. So with better graphics it actually made a better experience, almost remaking and reliving that experience fresh again. It also introduced that first person camera which added a lot more accuracy to the gunfights, and didnt the guards ahve shields like form MGS2?

While Ninja Gaiden to Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not a great graphical leap, sure it does look lots better, but its not enough to make you go "Wow they made Ninja Gaiden look the way it always should have" We dont say that because it still looks generally the same. The gameplay is still generally the same, not enough tweaks to make it different than Ninja Gaiden. Sure theres the bonus cahracter, but its not as fun as Ryu and its justnot thecore of the game

The story doesn;t have to change. The experience does, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a great game, and I love it. But it still feels like Im playing that amazing Xbox release of Ninja Gaiden 3 years ago, its that same experience.

Maybe I just look at remakes in a different way. I look at them as a re-envisioning of the original game. A FF7 remake wouldn't just be a graphical upgrade, it would be an emotional rollercoaster like we have never experienced before, even though it would stilnearly be the same game. Thats what i see remakes as. I see MGS: Twin Snakes doing that, I don't see Defender doing that but you could at least see where they were trying to take that, now Rygar on the other hand and hey waht about Prince of Persia when they remade it for XBOX Arcade. I don't know, remake or not, it doesn't really matter, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is awesome.
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#42 longhorn7
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there IS a huge graphical leap between the ninja gaiden games. the reason that it doesnt send you on an emotional rollercoaster is that the story has always kinda sucked. also if they remade final fantasy 7 and changed anyting more than the graphics I am sure there would be many terrorist attacks on square enix's headquarters lol