Why do YOU think companies go from PS3 to multi-platform?

Take Devil May Cry 4 for example. Do you think they went multi-platform to sell more copies? Or do you think it's something to do with Sony? Or, as an honest answer, do you believe Microsoft is paying to get these games?

i think its a culmination of things, both M$ paying and the reason that developing next gen games is hella expensive.americahellyeah

Devs make their games multiplat to gain more money. Seeing how the xbox 360 currently havethe larger fanbase, its only logical to also port the game over. However, what i don't understand is how developers refuse to release exclusives for the PS3 because of the low install base, yet by making their games multiplat, they are giving consumers another reason to buy the xbox 360 instead.bsin94

Take Devil May Cry 4 for example. Do you think they went multi-platform to sell more copies? Or do you think it's something to do with Sony? Or, as an honest answer, do you believe Microsoft is paying to get these games?

jlabadie88

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Take Devil May Cry 4 for example. Do you think they went multi-platform to sell more copies? Or do you think it's something to do with Sony? Or, as an honest answer, do you believe Microsoft is paying to get these games?

joevfx

its the fact that they will make more money this way. until the ps3's user base is large enough, it will be difficult to secure exclusives. by the end of this year, or possibly earlier (depending on how sales go) it will be easier for sony to secure more exclusives.rahzel54

I still don't see how Sony will be able to secure exclusives by simply having the PS3's install base grow gradually each month. By having more devs going the multiplat route instead of a PS3 exclusive route, wouldn't that lower the PS3's chance in gaining more sales? If devs are using this logic, then I don't see Sony securing much third party exclusives in the future as the xbox 360's install base continues to grow as well. In my opinion, by having the devs support the PS3 early with exclusives, it will help the PS3 gain its install base. But by having them go multiplat, the PS3 will never be able to truly compete.

 Less current exclusives-> less sale->lose even more exclusive->even lesser sales

More money. It's not rocket science. Sony simply doesn't have a big enough market share to make it commercially viable to produce a great game and cross your fingers and hope that people will buy the PS3 to play it. We needed GTA, FF, DMC, Tekken, MGS4 etc., the combination of all these games would guarantee the system sales finally stepping it up. GTA alone would have sold a ton of them, just like it did with the 2. They are %#$@ing up big-time. Dark times for PS fans. D_Znuhtz

it's obviously about the money---companies aren't in the business of losing money. And as far as MS throwing money at them, don't make it sound like they're the only ones who do it----$ony is just as guilty as MS--I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but just that a lot of fanboys out there cry that MS has a lot of money---well so does Sony--get over it.

These are good points (FINALLY a decent conversation on this PS3 board!), but I mean, say a company is going to make a game PS3-exclusive. They've already thought about the idea of making the game multi-platform, so why say they're going to release the game for one system, then change their mind? That would be one of the first things a company would think about when they start on a game, right? So it's almost like they're jumping ship on Sony.jlabadie88

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]i think its a culmination of things, both M$ paying and the reason that developing next gen games is hella expensive.jlabadie88

its the fact that they will make more money this way. until the ps3's user base is large enough, it will be difficult to secure exclusives. by the end of this year, or possibly earlier (depending on how sales go) it will be easier for sony to secure more exclusives.rahzel54

These are good points (FINALLY a decent conversation on this PS3 board!), but I mean, say a company is going to make a game PS3-exclusive. They've already thought about the idea of making the game multi-platform, so why say they're going to release the game for one system, then change their mind? That would be one of the first things a company would think about when they start on a game, right? So it's almost like they're jumping ship on Sony.jlabadie88

[QUOTE="rahzel54"]its the fact that they will make more money this way. until the ps3's user base is large enough, it will be difficult to secure exclusives. by the end of this year, or possibly earlier (depending on how sales go) it will be easier for sony to secure more exclusives.bsin94

I still don't see how Sony will be able to secure exclusives by simply having the PS3's install base grow gradually each month. By having more devs going the multiplat route instead of a PS3 exclusive route, wouldn't that lower the PS3's chance in gaining more sales? If devs are using this logic, then I don't see Sony securing much third party exclusives in the future as the xbox 360's install base continues to grow as well. In my opinion, by having the devs support the PS3 early with exclusives, it will help the PS3 gain its install base. But by having them go multiplat, the PS3 will never be able to truly compete.

 Less current exclusives-> less sale->lose even more exclusive->even lesser sales

honestly though, i'm very surprised nintendo let capcom work on a zelda title (the minish cap) after they pulled that little stunt.  by keeping re4 an exclusive for the gamecube, and being the game of the year that it was, i think nintendo could have sold more units. 

capcom totally made nintendo their whore.

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[QUOTE="rahzel54"]its the fact that they will make more money this way. until the ps3's user base is large enough, it will be difficult to secure exclusives. by the end of this year, or possibly earlier (depending on how sales go) it will be easier for sony to secure more exclusives.ghaleon0721

I still don't see how Sony will be able to secure exclusives by simply having the PS3's install base grow gradually each month. By having more devs going the multiplat route instead of a PS3 exclusive route, wouldn't that lower the PS3's chance in gaining more sales? If devs are using this logic, then I don't see Sony securing much third party exclusives in the future as the xbox 360's install base continues to grow as well. In my opinion, by having the devs support the PS3 early with exclusives, it will help the PS3 gain its install base. But by having them go multiplat, the PS3 will never be able to truly compete.

 Less current exclusives-> less sale->lose even more exclusive->even lesser sales

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[QUOTE="rahzel54"]its the fact that they will make more money this way. until the ps3's user base is large enough, it will be difficult to secure exclusives. by the end of this year, or possibly earlier (depending on how sales go) it will be easier for sony to secure more exclusives.ghaleon0721

I still don't see how Sony will be able to secure exclusives by simply having the PS3's install base grow gradually each month. By having more devs going the multiplat route instead of a PS3 exclusive route, wouldn't that lower the PS3's chance in gaining more sales? If devs are using this logic, then I don't see Sony securing much third party exclusives in the future as the xbox 360's install base continues to grow as well. In my opinion, by having the devs support the PS3 early with exclusives, it will help the PS3 gain its install base. But by having them go multiplat, the PS3 will never be able to truly compete.

Less current exclusives-> less sale->lose even more exclusive->even lesser sales

I understand Sony's strategy, but it now evident that more developers are in it for the money. Newest example, Capcom. There are always going to be more money driven greedy devs then the devs that wants to create their game due to their passion for gaming. It just sucks to see how the only developers who are going to utilize the PS3's potential are Sony first parties and 2 third party developers. Heres to hoping that more third parrty devs will fully use the PS3's capabilities instead of creating a game based around the lowest common denominator.

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[QUOTE="rahzel54"]its the fact that they will make more money this way. until the ps3's user base is large enough, it will be difficult to secure exclusives. by the end of this year, or possibly earlier (depending on how sales go) it will be easier for sony to secure more exclusives.ghaleon0721

I still don't see how Sony will be able to secure exclusives by simply having the PS3's install base grow gradually each month. By having more devs going the multiplat route instead of a PS3 exclusive route, wouldn't that lower the PS3's chance in gaining more sales? If devs are using this logic, then I don't see Sony securing much third party exclusives in the future as the xbox 360's install base continues to grow as well. In my opinion, by having the devs support the PS3 early with exclusives, it will help the PS3 gain its install base. But by having them go multiplat, the PS3 will never be able to truly compete.

Less current exclusives-> less sale->lose even more exclusive->even lesser sales

Aside from the obvious that PS3 hasn't sold enough systems, and the developers will want to sell more copies, I think they're going multiplatform because Sony isn't doing enough to keep them exclusive. Here's a few ideas from a business student:

1. Pay developers back a good chunk of money to cover their development costs to keep the game only on the PS3. If Sony were to tell Konami that they would pay 25-50% of development costs, that would be reason enough for the game to stay PS3 exclusive (especially if you put them in a binding contract). Sony would make back that money easily from PS3 sales that would occur because of MGS4's exclusive nature.

2. Offer promotional campaigns for developers. Maybe instead of just running special commericals for Resistance and Motorstorm, do so for games like MGS4 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Developers and Publishers would love to have advertisements paid for them and again, this could be grounds for a binding contract being created that if Sony took care of advertising, the game would stay exclusive.

Just a couple of ideas.

Aside from the obvious that PS3 hasn't sold enough systems, and the developers will want to sell more copies, I think they're going multiplatform because Sony isn't doing enough to keep them exclusive. Here's a few ideas from a business student:

1. Pay developers back a good chunk of money to cover their development costs to keep the game only on the PS3. If Sony were to tell Konami that they would pay 25-50% of development costs, that would be reason enough for the game to stay PS3 exclusive (especially if you put them in a binding contract). Sony would make back that money easily from PS3 sales that would occur because of MGS4's exclusive nature.

2. Offer promotional campaigns for developers. Maybe instead of just running special commericals for Resistance and Motorstorm, do so for games like MGS4 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Developers and Publishers would love to have advertisements paid for them and again, this could be grounds for a binding contract being created that if Sony took care of advertising, the game would stay exclusive.

Just a couple of ideas.

SkyCastleDan

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Aside from the obvious that PS3 hasn't sold enough systems, and the developers will want to sell more copies, I think they're going multiplatform because Sony isn't doing enough to keep them exclusive. Here's a few ideas from a business student:

1. Pay developers back a good chunk of money to cover their development costs to keep the game only on the PS3. If Sony were to tell Konami that they would pay 25-50% of development costs, that would be reason enough for the game to stay PS3 exclusive (especially if you put them in a binding contract). Sony would make back that money easily from PS3 sales that would occur because of MGS4's exclusive nature.

2. Offer promotional campaigns for developers. Maybe instead of just running special commericals for Resistance and Motorstorm, do so for games like MGS4 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Developers and Publishers would love to have advertisements paid for them and again, this could be grounds for a binding contract being created that if Sony took care of advertising, the game would stay exclusive.

Just a couple of ideas.

ghaleon0721

The sales of the PS3 would be enough to not only cover what they spent to help develop the game, but maybe not make a true profit immediately. However, more PS3's sold = more opportunity for the Playstation store to earn more revenue and more chance for SCEA published titles like Resistance, Motorstorm and Lair to make the company money. That's why.

my ideas present no opportunity to make immediate profit, but long-term financial success.

[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]

Aside from the obvious that PS3 hasn't sold enough systems, and the developers will want to sell more copies, I think they're going multiplatform because Sony isn't doing enough to keep them exclusive. Here's a few ideas from a business student:

1. Pay developers back a good chunk of money to cover their development costs to keep the game only on the PS3. If Sony were to tell Konami that they would pay 25-50% of development costs, that would be reason enough for the game to stay PS3 exclusive (especially if you put them in a binding contract). Sony would make back that money easily from PS3 sales that would occur because of MGS4's exclusive nature.

2. Offer promotional campaigns for developers. Maybe instead of just running special commericals for Resistance and Motorstorm, do so for games like MGS4 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Developers and Publishers would love to have advertisements paid for them and again, this could be grounds for a binding contract being created that if Sony took care of advertising, the game would stay exclusive.

Just a couple of ideas.

SkyCastleDan

The sales of the PS3 would be enough to not only cover what they spent to help develop the game, but maybe not make a true profit immediately. However, more PS3's sold = more opportunity for the Playstation store to earn more revenue and more chance for SCEA published titles like Resistance, Motorstorm and Lair to make the company money. That's why.

my ideas present no opportunity to make immediate profit, but long-term financial success.

SkyCastleDan

Yeah, PS3 is a better hardware than 360, no question, and better than Wii, too. But Wii and 360 sell, PS 3 not. PS3 is too expensive. Especially for Sony to develope. Don´t know if Microsoft still has to subsidize, but it was never that high anyway, cause the technology in 360 is cheaper. When Sony drops the price for the PS3 to 499 $, Microsoft will drop theirs to 299 $ - by then there will be new great exclusives on both systems, but their quality will be balanced (if Sonys lucky).

In three years, when Sony is obviously the better graphics-console, the Xbox will maybe cost 250 $ and first rumors or even secret pictures of graphics for the 360-successor will occur and everybod´s wowing. Not to mention PC-Gaming (cause this will always be equal to the PS3) and the newly developed Windows- + Xbox-Live-community.

Thing is: Console-Gamers always wanted a new platform after 5 years and not 10, like Sony promises. The hardware-developement is not predictable, but one things for sure: The market for games will increase like we never saw it before...